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A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:56 pm

Even the most Hardened Blue eyed die hard city fan has some point over the past 16-18 months said "Fair Play, The Jack Tw#ts"


Now I am not asking you to start loving or praising our inbred counterparts. But I am saying you have to give them some credit as they have gathered themselves a good looking squad.

So with their current squad place in our championship season, where do you think they would be sitting at the mo?

And if we were a prem side where would we be?



THIS IS A GENUINE FOOTBALL QUESTION AND NOT A PREMISES FOR A JACK V CARDIFF DEBATE.

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:58 pm

I don;'t think they'd be at the top tbh.

They're a strange club that would be in the top half of any league but I'm not sure they'd be the top ofthis one.

Play offs imo, most of the squad is still the same one that got the championship play offs.

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:59 pm

they'd be top of the champ, and we'd be fighting at the bottom of the prem tbh! not nice to say it mind :lol:

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:02 pm

Anyone who doesn't think they would be top is ridiculous tbh. :lol:

Of course they'd be top, they have some quality players.

Where would we be? Battling relegation.

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:23 pm

f*cking hell two of the stupidest questions I've ever seen on here.

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:26 pm

Stupid question.

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:28 pm

mmm who said relegated teams would be fav for promo this season? well you can have best team in world doesn't garauntee anything does it? don't forget this league is played very differently to premier so who knows how they would do? would they be able to play same way ect ect! :D

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:33 pm

They played that way in the champ and came 3rd with a much worse squad.

They would be top by a country mile, if we were in the Prem with this squad we would be bottom. Also probably by a country mile.

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:37 pm

PowerOfPigeons wrote:They played that way in the champ and came 3rd with a much worse squad.

They would be top by a country mile, if we were in the Prem with this squad we would be bottom. Also probably by a country mile.



why would we be bottom by a country mile?


stupid post :roll:

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:48 pm

paulh_85 wrote:
PowerOfPigeons wrote:They played that way in the champ and came 3rd with a much worse squad.

They would be top by a country mile, if we were in the Prem with this squad we would be bottom. Also probably by a country mile.



why would we be bottom by a country mile?


stupid post :roll:


Because we have a championship squad.

Stupid question.

Tell me which of our starting 11 would get into QPRs starting 11 as they are currently the bottom side...

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:56 pm

paulh_85 wrote:
PowerOfPigeons wrote:They played that way in the champ and came 3rd with a much worse squad.

They would be top by a country mile, if we were in the Prem with this squad we would be bottom. Also probably by a country mile.



why would we be bottom by a country mile?


stupid post :roll:


He's Roath Magic, that's why.

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:59 pm

PowerOfPigeons wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
PowerOfPigeons wrote:They played that way in the champ and came 3rd with a much worse squad.

They would be top by a country mile, if we were in the Prem with this squad we would be bottom. Also probably by a country mile.



why would we be bottom by a country mile?


stupid post :roll:


He's Roath Magic, that's why.


So you don't think Swansea would be top and you don't think Cardiff would be bottom given the state of the current squads? :?

That's ridiculous even for you.


How are you Roath Magic?

If you'd like to look at my previous post, it states my opinion. :roll:

I don't believe we would be bottom by a "country mile".

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:59 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
PowerOfPigeons wrote:They played that way in the champ and came 3rd with a much worse squad.

They would be top by a country mile, if we were in the Prem with this squad we would be bottom. Also probably by a country mile.



why would we be bottom by a country mile?


stupid post :roll:


He's Roath Magic, that's why.


He trolls when he wants....

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:00 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
PowerOfPigeons wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
PowerOfPigeons wrote:They played that way in the champ and came 3rd with a much worse squad.

They would be top by a country mile, if we were in the Prem with this squad we would be bottom. Also probably by a country mile.



why would we be bottom by a country mile?


stupid post :roll:


He's Roath Magic, that's why.


So you don't think Swansea would be top and you don't think Cardiff would be bottom given the state of the current squads? :?

That's ridiculous even for you.


How are you Roath Magic?

If you'd like to look at my previous post, it states my opinion. :roll:

I don't believe we would be bottom by a "country mile".


QPR's team who are bottom of the Prem with a -17 GD and 14 points in 22 games....

33 Julio Cesar
06 Hill
17 Nelsen
21 Ben-Haim
07 Park Ji-sung
10 Taarabt
14 Granero
18 Dyer
40 M'bia
12 Mackie
39 Campbell

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:02 pm

PowerOfPigeons wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
PowerOfPigeons wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
PowerOfPigeons wrote:They played that way in the champ and came 3rd with a much worse squad.

They would be top by a country mile, if we were in the Prem with this squad we would be bottom. Also probably by a country mile.



why would we be bottom by a country mile?


stupid post :roll:


He's Roath Magic, that's why.


So you don't think Swansea would be top and you don't think Cardiff would be bottom given the state of the current squads? :?

That's ridiculous even for you.


How are you Roath Magic?

If you'd like to look at my previous post, it states my opinion. :roll:

I don't believe we would be bottom by a "country mile".


QPR's team who are bottom of the Prem with a -17 GD and 14 points in 22 games....

33 Julio Cesar
06 Hill
17 Nelsen
21 Ben-Haim
07 Park Ji-sung
10 Taarabt
14 Granero
18 Dyer
40 M'bia
12 Mackie
39 Campbell


Brought in to many players in such a little time, didnt gel, plus Hughes is an average manager. Redknapp on the other hand.

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:02 pm

PowerOfPigeons wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
PowerOfPigeons wrote:They played that way in the champ and came 3rd with a much worse squad.

They would be top by a country mile, if we were in the Prem with this squad we would be bottom. Also probably by a country mile.



why would we be bottom by a country mile?


stupid post :roll:


Because we have a championship squad.

Stupid question.

Tell me which of our starting 11 would get into QPRs starting 11 as they are currently the bottom side...


It's not about individuals, the team at the bottom of the league table is the worse team and QPR and Reading are worse teams than Cardiff.

I obviously think we'd be top, we've got the likes of Michu and Pablo and players who you just don't see in the Championship for perfectly good reasons and we'd obviously lose if we went down whilst you'd obviously spend if you went up just like every other club - not to say that would improve your team in the cases of QPR and Reading in the last two years.

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:02 pm

So, you admit that you didn't read my posts correctly? Good man. :D

Why post the squad? Worse squads than that in the Premiership that are doing better than them.. It's not just about individuals you know. :lol: :lol:

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:04 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:So, you admit that you didn't read my posts correctly? Good man. :D

Why post the squad? Worse squads than that in the Premiership that are doing better than them.. It's not just about individuals you know. :lol: :lol:


I didnt admit anything or even mention your post, it seems it's you whom didnt read mine.

You said Cardiff would be battling relegation, I said bottom by a distance. Deal with it. :ayatollah:

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:05 pm

SCFC wrote:
PowerOfPigeons wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
PowerOfPigeons wrote:They played that way in the champ and came 3rd with a much worse squad.

They would be top by a country mile, if we were in the Prem with this squad we would be bottom. Also probably by a country mile.



why would we be bottom by a country mile?


stupid post :roll:


Because we have a championship squad.

Stupid question.

Tell me which of our starting 11 would get into QPRs starting 11 as they are currently the bottom side...


It's not about individuals, the team at the bottom of the league table is the worse team and QPR and Reading are worse teams than Cardiff.

I obviously think we'd be top, we've got the likes of Michu and Pablo and players who you just don't see in the Championship for perfectly good reasons and we'd obviously lose if we went down whilst you'd obviously spend if you went up just like every other club - not to say that would improve your team in the cases of QPR and Reading in the last two years.



good post Mr Jack.

to be fair i think QPR have a better squad man for man than norwich, wigan, villa and reading, but its not a ll about the individuals as you say.

If cardiff were in the prem now with the squad we have right now, i think we would be in the bottom three, or very close to it anyway, but to say we would be bottom by miles is just unfounded.

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:06 pm

PowerOfPigeons wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:So, you admit that you didn't read my posts correctly? Good man. :D

Why post the squad? Worse squads than that in the Premiership that are doing better than them.. It's not just about individuals you know. :lol: :lol:


I didnt admit anything or even mention your post, it seems it's you whom didnt read mine.

You said Cardiff would be battling relegation, I said bottom by a distance. Deal with it. :ayatollah:


You claimed that I didn't think the Jacks would be top, yet you failed to read my posts and got it wrong. Don't worry, I know you're sorry. ;)

I then gave you reasons why I'd state that, which you countered with a list of players (some of who don't even play for QPR anymore! :lol: )

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:08 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
PowerOfPigeons wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:So, you admit that you didn't read my posts correctly? Good man. :D

Why post the squad? Worse squads than that in the Premiership that are doing better than them.. It's not just about individuals you know. :lol: :lol:


I didnt admit anything or even mention your post, it seems it's you whom didnt read mine.

You said Cardiff would be battling relegation, I said bottom by a distance. Deal with it. :ayatollah:


You claimed that I didn't think the Jacks would be top, yet you failed to read my posts and got it wrong. Don't worry, I know you're sorry. ;)

i didn't claim anything. I asked a question, look closely - it's the squiggly line with a dot at the bottom. Just to educate you a statement can not be a question.

I then gave you reasons why I'd state that, which you countered with a list of players (some of who don't even play for QPR anymore! :lol: )

i gave you the bottom clubs team that they fielded in the prem game in WBA 2 weeks ago to compare to our current team. Not difficult.


Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:09 pm

paulh_85 wrote:
SCFC wrote:
PowerOfPigeons wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
PowerOfPigeons wrote:They played that way in the champ and came 3rd with a much worse squad.

They would be top by a country mile, if we were in the Prem with this squad we would be bottom. Also probably by a country mile.



why would we be bottom by a country mile?


stupid post :roll:


Because we have a championship squad.

Stupid question.

Tell me which of our starting 11 would get into QPRs starting 11 as they are currently the bottom side...


It's not about individuals, the team at the bottom of the league table is the worse team and QPR and Reading are worse teams than Cardiff.

I obviously think we'd be top, we've got the likes of Michu and Pablo and players who you just don't see in the Championship for perfectly good reasons and we'd obviously lose if we went down whilst you'd obviously spend if you went up just like every other club - not to say that would improve your team in the cases of QPR and Reading in the last two years.



good post Mr Jack.

to be fair i think QPR have a better squad man for man than norwich, wigan, villa and reading, but its not a ll about the individuals as you say.

If cardiff were in the prem now with the squad we have right now, i think we would be in the bottom three, or very close to it anyway, but to say we would be bottom by miles is just unfounded.


Just as unfounded as saying bottom 3 is it not?

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:11 pm

You failed to read my posts correctly as if you had done so, you wouldn't need to have asked that question. :lol:

So, why not the most recent game? :roll: as I said, Cardiff may have a worse squad player for player, but no doubt they would be a better team.

Norwich/Soton have worse squads and yet are doing better.

Even your fellow Jack agrees. :lol:

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:15 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:You failed to read my posts correctly as if you had done so, you wouldn't need to have asked that question. :lol:

i read your post perfectly fine. You however sent out a contradicting message that you thought being bottom by a distance was unrealistic yet thought it perfectly plausible to be battling relegation, where in actual fact anyone battling relegation has the potential to be bottom by a distance. I just asked for confirmation, which you vaguely attempted to give.

So, why not the most recent game? :roll: as I said, Cardiff may have a worse squad player for player, but no doubt they would be a better team.

because it was a cup match although I'm happy to compare their cup team also if you wish?

Norwich/Soton have worse squads and yet are doing better.

Tell me who would get in both sides then. They certainly don't have worse squads.

Even your fellow Jack agrees. :lol:

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:18 pm

Why ask the question when I said they would be clearly top then? :roll:

They played Spurs on Saturday, that was the most recent game... Wrong again eh? :lol:

Norwich, Reading and Soton have worse squads than QPR, yet are doing better. Arguably Wigan too. Blows your theory out of the water really. :lol:

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:20 pm

With the squad we have now? 10th-16th in my opinion but that is because I believe the Premiership is getting poorer. Villa can be beaten by anyone, Wigan the same, West Brom blow hot and cold, etc.

In reality we will sign some big players I believe if we go up - Vincent Tan will want to increase his 'brand' and his 'ego' so would not be surprised to see him try and sign some players way beyond our clubs reach at first. Kind of like that wally who wanted Ronaldinho at Blackburn. :lol: :lol:

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:21 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:Why ask the question when I said they would be clearly top then? :roll:

wtf? Since when has our conversation been about where Swansea would finish? Surely even a man of your limited intellect would realise I asked for confirmation regarding e second part of e equation?

They played Spurs on Saturday, that was the most recent game... Wrong again eh? :lol:

like I said, ill happily compare that squad too if you wish?

Norwich, Reading and Soton have worse squads than QPR, yet are doing better. Arguably Wigan too. Blows your theory out of the water really. :lol:

barca, man united and Chelsea have better squads than Wigan, QPR and reading and are doing better. There are far more examples of my theory being accurate than yours being accurate. Want to count?

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:22 pm

PowerOfPigeons wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
SCFC wrote:
PowerOfPigeons wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
PowerOfPigeons wrote:They played that way in the champ and came 3rd with a much worse squad.

They would be top by a country mile, if we were in the Prem with this squad we would be bottom. Also probably by a country mile.



why would we be bottom by a country mile?


stupid post :roll:


Because we have a championship squad.

Stupid question.

Tell me which of our starting 11 would get into QPRs starting 11 as they are currently the bottom side...


It's not about individuals, the team at the bottom of the league table is the worse team and QPR and Reading are worse teams than Cardiff.

I obviously think we'd be top, we've got the likes of Michu and Pablo and players who you just don't see in the Championship for perfectly good reasons and we'd obviously lose if we went down whilst you'd obviously spend if you went up just like every other club - not to say that would improve your team in the cases of QPR and Reading in the last two years.



good post Mr Jack.

to be fair i think QPR have a better squad man for man than norwich, wigan, villa and reading, but its not a ll about the individuals as you say.

If cardiff were in the prem now with the squad we have right now, i think we would be in the bottom three, or very close to it anyway, but to say we would be bottom by miles is just unfounded.


Just as unfounded as saying bottom 3 is it not?



no, because its quite common place for newly promoted teams to be around that area. How often are they cut adrift at the bottom?

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:22 pm

All Black Everything. wrote:With the squad we have now? 10th-16th in my opinion but that is because I believe the Premiership is getting poorer. Villa can be beaten by anyone, Wigan the same, West Brom blow hot and cold, etc.

In reality we will sign some big players I believe if we go up - Vincent Tan will want to increase his 'brand' and his 'ego' so would not be surprised to see him try and sign some players way beyond our clubs reach at first. Kind of like that wally who wanted Ronaldinho at Blackburn. :lol: :lol:


10th with the current squad eh? :lol:

Surely only a few key signings away from champions league then? :lol:

FFs what a thread!

Re: A jack Thread....

Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:24 pm

I've given you examples of where your theory is flawed. Which shows that your theory could be wrong. It could be right, nobody knows.

"So you don't think Swansea would be top" - you asked me this despite me stating that already in my post, so you didn't read it. :roll: wrong again. ;)

Glad you admit you were wrong about the squad too. :D