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Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:27 pm

Under Malky and I lay the blame firmly at Malkys door.

Whites is being wasted in front of the back four and is starting to look a shadow of the free scoring attacking midfielder we seen under Jones.

His body language is telling me he is getting fed up.

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:34 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:Under Malky and I lay the blame firmly at Malkys door.

Whites is being wasted in front of the back four and is starting to look a shadow of the free scoring attacking midfielder we seen under Jones.

His body language is telling me he is getting fed up.


Spot on, he looks a shadow of the player who started the season is blistering form. We need a Shaun Derry type player to come in and stop teams playing straight through us and allow Whitts to play further forward. I'd also like to see Jack Colback in the middle for city, but that's just wishful thinking. :cry: :cry:
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Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:34 pm

Neokutai wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:Under Malky and I lay the blame firmly at Malkys door.

Whites is being wasted in front of the back four and is starting to look a shadow of the free scoring attacking midfielder we seen under Jones.

His body language is telling me he is getting fed up.


Spot on, he looks a shadow of the player who started the season is blistering form. We need a Shaun Derry type player to come in and stop teams playing straight through us and allow Whitts to play further forward.

Agreed a gazillion percent :ayatollah:

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:55 pm

There appears only one person in the world who thinks Whitts is a holding midfield player and that's Malky. He needs a rethink.

Last season when we had no width, he got away with it as there was a lot of cover in there, but with out and out wingers and most of the opposition sticking 3 in the middle, we are getting overrun and he is sitting deeper and deeper.

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:01 pm

:O don't go saying stuff like this now polo, whitts has some nice touches and good passing ability!!! but the strength of a baby lamb, him being used as a defensive midfielder is suicide most times, good job we got good strong centre backs, c'mon malky wake up and push him forward mun he's hardly roy keane is he?

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:04 pm

he looked tired yesterday just wondering if he is over that injury he picked up

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:07 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:Under Malky and I lay the blame firmly at Malkys door.

Whites is being wasted in front of the back four and is starting to look a shadow of the free scoring attacking midfielder we seen under Jones.

His body language is telling me he is getting fed up.

I have to agree with you. Whitts has gone off the boil big time. He needs to play more attacking to be at his best.

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:09 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:Under Malky and I lay the blame firmly at Malkys door.

Whites is being wasted in front of the back four and is starting to look a shadow of the free scoring attacking midfielder we seen under Jones.

His body language is telling me he is getting fed up.


Polo,
On his day Whitts is class, but on many many occasions he goes missing,thats why he still plays for us and no Premiership club has ever really wanted him. Like I say on his day superb, but goes missing on to many other days.

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:12 pm

Polo i Think you are Spot On, I also Feel Whits is Starting to Hide during Games

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:14 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:Under Malky and I lay the blame firmly at Malkys door.

Whites is being wasted in front of the back four and is starting to look a shadow of the free scoring attacking midfielder we seen under Jones.

His body language is telling me he is getting fed up.


Agreed, he is not a defensive mid, that's more gunarsons style.

He in nothing compared to last season, I hope he gets back to his usual style, otherwise I feel he ,any want out in a season or 2

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:21 pm

The man has played over 150 games in the last 3 seasons. 90mins in virtually all. 26 games already this, he's been in the form of his career for most of it, over 50 goals and has changed from a wide player to a central player.

He goes through a bad patch, people write them off. We, as a fan base don't deserve promotion. Good football fans stick by their team, Cardiff fans want them out the door for a 6/10 performance. Absolute joke.

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:25 pm

What's happened to his free kicks ???

About time he smacked one in, can't blame Malky for that !!!

Refs could help b getting the fecking Walls back ten yards.

A nice change for more goals would be to change the rules and make it 12 yards or 14 yard, that would make free kicks more dangerous and make the game more entertaining IMO.....

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:27 pm

Bluebina wrote:What's happened to his free kicks ???

About time he smacked one in, can't blame Malky for that !!!

Refs could help b getting the fecking Walls back ten yards.

A nice change for more goals would be to change the rules and make it 12 yards or 14 yard, that would make free kicks more dangerous and make the game more entertaining IMO.....


You can't exactly say about the refs, the last 2 or 3 games they have marched them back 10 yards

That's not really an excuse

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:28 pm

RFMH wrote:The man has played over 150 games in the last 3 seasons. 90mins in virtually all. 26 games already this, he's been in the form of his career for most of it, over 50 goals and has changed from a wide player to a central player.

He goes through a bad patch, people write them off. We, as a fan base don't deserve promotion. Good football fans stick by their team, Cardiff fans want them out the door for a 6/10 performance. Absolute joke.



No, just saying he is being played away from his strengths. How many goals from open play this season ?

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:29 pm

Durbin wrote:
Bluebina wrote:What's happened to his free kicks ???

About time he smacked one in, can't blame Malky for that !!!

Refs could help b getting the fecking Walls back ten yards.

A nice change for more goals would be to change the rules and make it 12 yards or 14 yard, that would make free kicks more dangerous and make the game more entertaining IMO.....


You can't exactly say about the refs, the last 2 or 3 games they have marched them back 10 yards

That's not really an excuse



Looked like he moved them back from about six to eight yesterday, but I get your point, some refs are even worse.....

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:31 pm

There is an old saying in Football you are only as good as your last game, Whitts is not performing I know he has set high standards and when he dont play to those standards people like me say but thats Football, I am sure he will start to play again But at this moment in time he is not doing the Business Full Stop

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:37 pm

I agree with him playing too deep, didn't think he was too bad yesterday, but the thing for me is that he was awesome early season, his free kicks and corner deliveries were top draw.

Class is permanent, he's one good free kick away from being back! :ayatollah:

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:33 pm

Agreed.

Whitts needs to be a lot further up the pitch, especially when we have a no-nonsense bulldozer in Gunnarsson capable of playing in the deeper role.

It's as if Malky's trying to clone a 27 year-old McPhail. :?

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:50 pm

RFMH wrote:The man has played over 150 games in the last 3 seasons. 90mins in virtually all. 26 games already this, he's been in the form of his career for most of it, over 50 goals and has changed from a wide player to a central player.

He goes through a bad patch, people write them off. We, as a fan base don't deserve promotion. Good football fans stick by their team, Cardiff fans want them out the door for a 6/10 performance. Absolute joke.

What are you on about?

Where am I writing him off or wanting him out the door?

I think Whitts is class but is being wasted by Malky playing him so deep.

His body language indicates he feels the same.

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:00 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
RFMH wrote:The man has played over 150 games in the last 3 seasons. 90mins in virtually all. 26 games already this, he's been in the form of his career for most of it, over 50 goals and has changed from a wide player to a central player.

He goes through a bad patch, people write them off. We, as a fan base don't deserve promotion. Good football fans stick by their team, Cardiff fans want them out the door for a 6/10 performance. Absolute joke.

What are you on about?

Where am I writing him off or wanting him out the door?

I think Whitts is class but is being wasted by Malky playing him so deep.

His body language indicates he feels the same.


It's a myth he's played further forward in his career. Under the 10/11 season he played behind Olofinjana in the middle.

Last season Gunnarson was largely used further forward. In a brief period when Kiss, Gunnarson and Whitts were a middle 3 he did play ahead of Kiss, however other than than he still played deep. It's from he's suffering a bad patch in form, given his history he's entitled too a error like that.

Yesterday the midde two were both slow reacting, especially going forwa, Mason didn't help too much either and the less said about Rudy the better. But everyone in here goes into crisis made too quickly it's sad.

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:05 pm

Rubbish. He was used much further forward by Jones than he has been by Malky. Hes getting deeper every week and before long he will be in goals.

In the 10/11 season he was used on occasion in a central three with Mcphail holding.

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:11 pm

under jones he was always going forward, making them attacking runs, now hes employed as a play breaker and yes hes got good passing vision but he gets over whelmed when opposition is attacking and if gunnarson or mutch aint there with him he looks out of place badly! not whitts fault its just the way malky wants him to play, keep it simple break play up, lately hes playing so deep its like having 3 centre backs on the pitch

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:11 pm

I have to agree hes going backwards playing this defensive midfield style role MM seems to put him in. No idea why .

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:13 pm

citybluechris wrote:under jones he was always going forward, making them attacking runs, now hes employed as a play breaker and yes hes got good passing vision but he gets over whelmed when opposition is attacking and if gunnarson or mutch aint there with him he looks out of place badly! not whitts fault its just the way malky wants him to play, keep it simple break play up, lately hes playing so deep its like having 3 centre backs on the pitch

All a myth Chris. Appatently he played centre half under Jones too.

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:14 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:Under Malky and I lay the blame firmly at Malkys door.

Whites is being wasted in front of the back four and is starting to look a shadow of the free scoring attacking midfielder we seen under Jones.

His body language is telling me he is getting fed up.

agreed :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:16 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
citybluechris wrote:under jones he was always going forward, making them attacking runs, now hes employed as a play breaker and yes hes got good passing vision but he gets over whelmed when opposition is attacking and if gunnarson or mutch aint there with him he looks out of place badly! not whitts fault its just the way malky wants him to play, keep it simple break play up, lately hes playing so deep its like having 3 centre backs on the pitch

All a myth Chris. Appatently he played centre half under Jones too.

:lol: Last season after january we had 10 center halfs in many games away from home under MM. if we dont get some fresh faces within the next 10-15days i feel we might have another downhill stumble after jan and go down the 10 center halfs route again all camped in away from home, lets hope not :ayatollah:

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:18 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:Under Malky and I lay the blame firmly at Malkys door.

Whites is being wasted in front of the back four and is starting to look a shadow of the free scoring attacking midfielder we seen under Jones.

His body language is telling me he is getting fed up.


Polo,
On his day Whitts is class, but on many many occasions he goes missing,thats why he still plays for us and no Premiership club has ever really wanted him. Like I say on his day superb, but goes missing on to many other days.

He does have games where he goes missing and yday was one of them but do you agree he is a better player when given license ti attack rather than Malky using him in our own half?

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:20 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
citybluechris wrote:under jones he was always going forward, making them attacking runs, now hes employed as a play breaker and yes hes got good passing vision but he gets over whelmed when opposition is attacking and if gunnarson or mutch aint there with him he looks out of place badly! not whitts fault its just the way malky wants him to play, keep it simple break play up, lately hes playing so deep its like having 3 centre backs on the pitch

All a myth Chris. Appatently he played centre half under Jones too.

wish he played in goals when we had bywater in there!

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:32 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:Rubbish. He was used much further forward by Jones than he has been by Malky. Hes getting deeper every week and before long he will be in goals.

In the 10/11 season he was used on occasion in a central three with Mcphail holding.


Sorry but that's ally not the case, I know because it irritated me, Olofinjana was used further forward than him. His attacking runs were a a left midfielder in the 09/10 season. He has been a deep midfield player for nearly three years no. Just when he's out of com it's more noticeable.

Re: Whitts starting to go backwards

Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:35 pm

Whitts has been off the boil for a while now,even his free kicks struggle to get over the wall and his famous corners dont seem to beat the first man.