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RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:00 pm

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/soccer-di ... 2U-;_ylv=3

Right or wrong?

Lets face it. A f**k all nothing friendly, AC Milan putting money in the coffers of a fuck-all Club.
The home fans smash Milans black players throughout. I dont blame them for walking off.

But does it set a dangerous precedent for more competitive matches??

A handful of knobheads with the power to get a game abandoned?

What if this kind of thing had been in force when "handbags" Sol Campbell was getting
all the Gay abuse from Spurs fans.. What if he'd walked off, what if Arsenal had refused
to carry on.

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:03 pm

It was the right thing to do. If it happend competivetly then it would just get reschedule and held behind closed doors im guessing with a large fine (hopefully some sort of ban for the fans)

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:08 pm

I disagree with that.

The worst thing you can give a c**t is power. This will only encourage it further in my view.

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:10 pm

nothing excuses this sort of racist behaviour - cowards do it cos they think nothing will ever happen to them or their club. Wouldn't stand a chance if they tried it outside the ground, at least not in this country.

We've seen loads of examples of football authorities levying puny fines - UEFA and FIFA are culpable, the FA is only getting its own act together and used to be the same years ago. Look what happened to Serbia - nothing much.

No wonder players take things into their own hands - I'll turn the question round Taffy, would you put up with it? i know I wouldn't. I'd be like Viv Richards at Headingly once, some Yorkshire tw*t giving it large at Viv near the boundary, he just turned round, took one step over the rope and said "come on then". tw*t shat himself - might have had something to do with Big Bird Joel Garner standing right behind him mind!!

No place for it anywhere, that includes a football ground. Sooner it is sorted the better for everyone. Good luck to any player who walks off, I for one would agree with them.

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:12 pm

OhhhGa wrote:I disagree with that.

The worst thing you can give a c**t is power. This will only encourage it further in my view.


Think its more likely to send a message to UEFA and FIFA to sort it out instead of handing out piss poor fines

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:13 pm

CjBluebird17 wrote:It was the right thing to do. If it happend competivetly then it would just get reschedule and held behind closed doors im guessing with a large fine (hopefully some sort of ban for the fans)

Let's hope craig bellamy doesn't decide to walk off mid game when oppo fans are chanting sheepshagger then. Its up to fifa to come down heavy on the clubs involved, untill they do that, then it will never stop. Players walking off during a game only makes things worse in my opinion.

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:14 pm

CjBluebird17 wrote:
OhhhGa wrote:I disagree with that.

The worst thing you can give a c**t is power. This will only encourage it further in my view.


Think its more likely to send a message to UEFA and FIFA to sort it out instead of handing out piss poor fines


I think this would have to occur in a more high profile game for FIFA to bat an eyelid.

(Speaking of c**t's with power...)

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:16 pm

OhhhGa wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
OhhhGa wrote:I disagree with that.

The worst thing you can give a c**t is power. This will only encourage it further in my view.


Think its more likely to send a message to UEFA and FIFA to sort it out instead of handing out piss poor fines


I think this would have to occur in a more high profile game for FIFA to bat an eyelid.

(Speaking of c**t's with power...)


Thats what I mean if it was done in a more competitive match. Say if it happend in the Euros or Champions League then it would send a much stronger message to those fossils in power

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:18 pm

If I was black and recieved that sort of abuse, I'd be walking off and then publically asking Blatter whether he still thinks the that racism isn't a problem in football.

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:19 pm

mr'mogreenz wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:It was the right thing to do. If it happend competivetly then it would just get reschedule and held behind closed doors im guessing with a large fine (hopefully some sort of ban for the fans)

Let's hope craig bellamy doesn't decide to walk off mid game when oppo fans are chanting sheepshagger then. Its up to fifa to come down heavy on the clubs involved, untill they do that, then it will never stop. Players walking off during a game only makes things worse in my opinion.


I lean towards this view.

Give people the power to get games called off and the terraces in some of these European
Leagues will be like an episode of Planet of The Apes if their team is losing!!

This instance, a friendly, f**k the little Club, f**k their chance of making a few quid, if
they cant sort their fans, then good for Milan.

But as you say, this might wake FIFA up. One or two idiots is one thing, the players should
ignore them and let the Police deal with it. But whole sections of a crowd... HUGE fines
and close the ground. Or one day a Gay/black/Asian/Welsh/Ginger is going to walk off and
the shit will hit the fan if his team-mates go with him

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:22 pm

mr'mogreenz wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:It was the right thing to do. If it happend competivetly then it would just get reschedule and held behind closed doors im guessing with a large fine (hopefully some sort of ban for the fans)

Let's hope craig bellamy doesn't decide to walk off mid game when oppo fans are chanting sheepshagger then. Its up to fifa to come down heavy on the clubs involved, untill they do that, then it will never stop. Players walking off during a game only makes things worse in my opinion.


But if they dont do anything as has happend before then FIFA wont be inclined to change. I know its not what you want with games being called off etc but there needs to be a large scene which will kick FIFA up the back side

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:25 pm

CjBluebird17 wrote:
mr'mogreenz wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:It was the right thing to do. If it happend competivetly then it would just get reschedule and held behind closed doors im guessing with a large fine (hopefully some sort of ban for the fans)

Let's hope craig bellamy doesn't decide to walk off mid game when oppo fans are chanting sheepshagger then. Its up to fifa to come down heavy on the clubs involved, untill they do that, then it will never stop. Players walking off during a game only makes things worse in my opinion.


But if they dont do anything as has happend before then FIFA wont be inclined to change. I know its not what you want with games being called off etc but there needs to be a large scene which will kick FIFA up the back side


Perhaps this will do it

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:26 pm

Ballotelli had it right (probably by accident) when he threatened to walk off at the Euro's.

Big player, big stage, big audience.

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:27 pm

OhhhGa wrote:Ballotelli had it right (probably by accident) when he threatened to walk off at the Euro's.

Big player, big stage, big audience.


Aye but didnt he also say he would kill them first? :lol:

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:32 pm

CjBluebird17 wrote:
mr'mogreenz wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:It was the right thing to do. If it happend competivetly then it would just get reschedule and held behind closed doors im guessing with a large fine (hopefully some sort of ban for the fans)

Let's hope craig bellamy doesn't decide to walk off mid game when oppo fans are chanting sheepshagger then. Its up to fifa to come down heavy on the clubs involved, untill they do that, then it will never stop. Players walking off during a game only makes things worse in my opinion.


But if they dont do anything as has happend before then FIFA wont be inclined to change. I know its not what you want with games being called off etc but there needs to be a large scene which will kick FIFA up the back side


Perhaps this will do it

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:50 pm

CjBluebird17 wrote:
mr'mogreenz wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:It was the right thing to do. If it happend competivetly then it would just get reschedule and held behind closed doors im guessing with a large fine (hopefully some sort of ban for the fans)

Let's hope craig bellamy doesn't decide to walk off mid game when oppo fans are chanting sheepshagger then. Its up to fifa to come down heavy on the clubs involved, untill they do that, then it will never stop. Players walking off during a game only makes things worse in my opinion.


But if they dont do anything as has happend before then FIFA wont be inclined to change. I know its not what you want with games being called off etc but there needs to be a large scene which will kick FIFA up the back side

Like mr' taffyApple said! I also think this could end up setting a dangerous precedence. before you know it, players will be walking off because the oppo fans insulted the color of there hair (ginger) welsh players with the sheepshagger chants, scotish players because they were called sweaties etc Tbh with you, the reason I think fifa don't make such a big fuss, is because they may see black players of this generation being overly sensitive.

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:58 pm

KEVIN - PRINCE BOATENG I SALUTE YOU SIR ..... A PLAYER WITH BOLLOCKS :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:04 pm

mr'mogreenz wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
mr'mogreenz wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:It was the right thing to do. If it happend competivetly then it would just get reschedule and held behind closed doors im guessing with a large fine (hopefully some sort of ban for the fans)

Let's hope craig bellamy doesn't decide to walk off mid game when oppo fans are chanting sheepshagger then. Its up to fifa to come down heavy on the clubs involved, untill they do that, then it will never stop. Players walking off during a game only makes things worse in my opinion.


But if they dont do anything as has happend before then FIFA wont be inclined to change. I know its not what you want with games being called off etc but there needs to be a large scene which will kick FIFA up the back side

Like mr' taffyApple said! I also think this could end up setting a dangerous precedence. before you know it, players will be walking off because the oppo fans insulted the color of there hair (ginger) welsh players with the sheepshagger chants, scotish players because they were called sweaties etc Tbh with you, the reason I think fifa don't make such a big fuss, is because they may see black players of this generation being overly sensitive.


In the AC Milan incident... Literally a whole terrace was giving it loads. It was a friendly.
So I think their players done right. It was a friendly, they were doing the little Club a favour

But the message needs to come from FIFA, that they will take these incidents on a game by
game basis. Then if one of these Russian/Polish Clubs have terraces dishing it out, they need
to have the courage to say "your out".. throw the fuckers out of tournaments. But for the
Players to take the law into their own hands? Where does it stop? Gay abuse? Riberi or
Lescott getting abused cos of the state of their heads?... Two valid sides to this argument.

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:27 pm

Sorry dont see the 2 sides of arguement, being racially abused because of the colour of your skin is totally different. i have mates take the piss cos I am overweight, I can change my body, bit difficult to change colour of your skin ( no M. Jackson jokes please)...

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:33 pm

does anyone know excatly was shouted..?Ive only seen images with no sound.

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:46 pm

splottbluebird48 wrote:Sorry dont see the 2 sides of arguement, being racially abused because of the colour of your skin is totally different. i have mates take the piss cos I am overweight, I can change my body, bit difficult to change colour of your skin ( no M. Jackson jokes please)...


Not so much two sides of an argument as two ways of dealing with it.

I agree with AC Milan walking off. they had gone to that place in good
faith for a friendly, an opportunity for the little club to make some money.
So they were right to walk off. f**k em, ignorant wankers. Their Club
was responsible for ensuring shite like that never happened.

but to walk off in a competitive match DOES set dangerous precedents

If Sepp Blatter cannot see this though, and does not act soon, it WILL
happen. He should stop protecting these Clubs and close grounds or throw
the offending Clubs out of competitions.

What Black/Asian/Gay etc etc players want to see is the authorities sorting
it out.

But Blatter got lots of money from Poland/East Europeans/Russians didnt he ;)

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:55 pm

taffyapple wrote:
splottbluebird48 wrote:Sorry dont see the 2 sides of arguement, being racially abused because of the colour of your skin is totally different. i have mates take the piss cos I am overweight, I can change my body, bit difficult to change colour of your skin ( no M. Jackson jokes please)...


Not so much two sides of an argument as two ways of dealing with it.

I agree with AC Milan walking off. they had gone to that place in good
faith for a friendly, an opportunity for the little club to make some money.
So they were right to walk off. f**k em, ignorant wankers. Their Club
was responsible for ensuring shite like that never happened.

but to walk off in a competitive match DOES set dangerous precedents

If Sepp Blatter cannot see this though, and does not act soon, it WILL
happen. He should stop protecting these Clubs and close grounds or throw
the offending Clubs out of competitions.

What Black/Asian/Gay etc etc players want to see is the authorities sorting
it out.

But Blatter got lots of money from Poland/East Europeans/Russians didnt he ;)


The problemis sepp has never dealt with racism in a constructive manner and shown countries what can happen if you are banned

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:05 am

mr'mogreenz wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
mr'mogreenz wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:It was the right thing to do. If it happend competivetly then it would just get reschedule and held behind closed doors im guessing with a large fine (hopefully some sort of ban for the fans)

Let's hope craig bellamy doesn't decide to walk off mid game when oppo fans are chanting sheepshagger then. Its up to fifa to come down heavy on the clubs involved, untill they do that, then it will never stop. Players walking off during a game only makes things worse in my opinion.


But if they dont do anything as has happend before then FIFA wont be inclined to change. I know its not what you want with games being called off etc but there needs to be a large scene which will kick FIFA up the back side

Like mr' taffyApple said! I also think this could end up setting a dangerous precedence. before you know it, players will be walking off because the oppo fans insulted the color of there hair (ginger) welsh players with the sheepshagger chants, scotish players because they were called sweaties etc Tbh with you, the reason I think fifa don't make such a big fuss, is because they may see black players of this generation being overly sensitive.

Good post..

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:09 am

WHENEVER WE ARE LOSING I URGE ALL OF OUR PLAYERS TO WALK OFF IF THEY HEAR THE FANS CHANTING 'SHEEPSHAGGERS'. IT IS OUTRAGEOUS AWAY FANS CAN BE SO RACIST SO WE SHOULD WALK OFF IF WE ARE LOSING AFTER 85 MINUTES AND GET THE GAME RESCHEDULED THANKS BLOOBIRDS.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:13 am

The best thing they can do is massive club fines. Keep the game on going or dock them points and then fine the club. Stopping the games gives players the power to call games off when things aren't going their way. It is basically equivalent to pressing start and clicking rematch on FIFA just because you are losing.

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:14 am

Total bollocks and the players should be heavily fined. If the fans are guilty of racial chanting then the proper authorities should deal with it (i.e. Police and local FA's) not the players.

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:15 am

Whats pissed me off is I have to see that prick from the society of black lawyers all over sky sports news sticking his beak in :evil:

Even though i can understand why they walked off, i feel sorry for the fans who did f**k all wrong and are now out of pocket.

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:15 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:Total bollocks and the players should be heavily fined. If the fans are guilty of racial chanting then the proper authorities should deal with it (i.e. Police and local FA's) not the players.


like a pathetic 65k fine :roll: thats the whole point, the authorities are doing nothing!

its gone on far too long with nothing being done and its about time something happened.

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:37 am

these people are scum but the trouble with players walking off is these cowards think they have won and they will do it again because they are not fans they are thugs who cound'nt care less about the game if it was say a league game it should be up to the ref to make some sort of announcement if any of this abuse carries on the match will be abandoned and the points awarded to the team that's been abused

Re: RACIST CHANTS - GAME ABANDONED

Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:41 am

glyncoedblue wrote:these people are scum but the trouble with players walking off is these cowards think they have won and they will do it again because they are not fans they are thugs who cound'nt care less about the game if it was say a league game it should be up to the ref to make some sort of announcement if any of this abuse carries on the match will be abandoned and the points awarded to the team that's been abused


i agree totally but the ref doesnt do anything and neither does anyone else. hopefully this will force fifa to act