Updated - Cardiff close to agreeing fee for midfielder

That’s a lot of money. I’d never expect us to spend that much unless we are selling one of our players for a substantial fee.

I've said the last few weeks that I think BBM will be backed, others have said similar.

And as has been pointed out by a couple of people on this thread, very few transfers are done with a lump sum paid up front these days. It would be the money spread over four years or so, which doesn't impact the budget too much. That's why Chelsea sign players on eight year contracts.

I think those who say he won't be backed will be pleasantly surprised by the end of the window.

It's been said for a while bbm will be backed but gone are the days we pay stupid money for over the hill journey men

Pretty much every player we sign whilst bbm is at the club will have re sale value

The next few weeks are going to be very interesting and will calm a lot of people nerves

When people say BBM will be backed I was just assuming a million or 2 for a player

Why would people call that being backed?

By being backed we mean being given enough money for the players he wants.

Judge it at the end of the window, not now. But the fact that multiple sources are saying we've made a £5.5m offer is positive, yes?

Mate, I would have been happy if we were paying 1 or 2 mill for players. Let alone 5m+. So yes, very positive.

That’s a lot of money. I’d never expect us to spend that much unless we are selling one of our players for a substantial fee.

I've said the last few weeks that I think BBM will be backed, others have said similar.

And as has been pointed out by a couple of people on this thread, very few transfers are done with a lump sum paid up front these days. It would be the money spread over four years or so, which doesn't impact the budget too much. That's why Chelsea sign players on eight year contracts.

I think those who say he won't be backed will be pleasantly surprised by the end of the window.

It's been said for a while bbm will be backed but gone are the days we pay stupid money for over the hill journey men

Pretty much every player we sign whilst bbm is at the club will have re sale value

The next few weeks are going to be very interesting and will calm a lot of people nerves

When people say BBM will be backed I was just assuming a million or 2 for a player

Why would people call that being backed?

By being backed we mean being given enough money for the players he wants.

Judge it at the end of the window, not now. But the fact that multiple sources are saying we've made a £5.5m offer is positive, yes?

Without a doubt but moaners are gonna moan no matter who we sign or attempt to sign.

That’s a lot of money. I’d never expect us to spend that much unless we are selling one of our players for a substantial fee.

I've said the last few weeks that I think BBM will be backed, others have said similar.

And as has been pointed out by a couple of people on this thread, very few transfers are done with a lump sum paid up front these days. It would be the money spread over four years or so, which doesn't impact the budget too much. That's why Chelsea sign players on eight year contracts.

I think those who say he won't be backed will be pleasantly surprised by the end of the window.

It's been said for a while bbm will be backed but gone are the days we pay stupid money for over the hill journey men

Pretty much every player we sign whilst bbm is at the club will have re sale value

The next few weeks are going to be very interesting and will calm a lot of people nerves

When people say BBM will be backed I was just assuming a million or 2 for a player

Why would people call that being backed?

By being backed we mean being given enough money for the players he wants.

Judge it at the end of the window, not now. But the fact that multiple sources are saying we've made a £5.5m offer is positive, yes?

Mate, I would have been happy if we were paying 1 or 2 mill for players. Let alone 5m+. So yes, very positive.

Agree, hopefully we get some sort of news soon because I do get why some are a bit frustrated.

player has already stated he would like to go to Rangers thou

Seems the place to go to of late or Real ... Jose

His parents have started following both Cardiff and Rangers on socials.
So wouldnt say hes against it.

Well if Jens's parents have signed up to the best CCCFC Messageboard then tell your boy to come to Cardiff.

As the song goes, South Wales is wonderful. Apparently it's full of tits, fanny and Cardiff.

Scotland on the other hand is full of big hairy blokes wearing skirts, drinking too much whiskey and speaking in an accent nobody can understand.

And Rangers play in a pub league.

(Apologies to Jock).

Skirts mate?
And we no longer drink whisky, we live on deep fried heroin.

Do Rangers have European football next season? Can't see any other reason he would prefer them over us, it's not like the weather is any better.

Europa League.

They're also a much bigger club than us.

Much bigger in what way though? They seem like a bigger club in theory but I'm not so sure in practice. Sure their crowds are much bigger but the Scottish leagues are very weak and there's only really 2 teams and it's not much of a challenge when only 1 team is your competition. I can see the Europa league being a draw but what else would be?

What besides the Scottish only cups have they won? Just seems like a bit of a dead end for players as well but each to their own & if that where he wants to go then that's his decision & good luck to the guy.

No your right, we very similar size clubs. Barely anyone know of rangers outside of the uk. lol. Beggars belief.

Apparently tromso rejected our offer

How reliable is this source? Anyone know?

I wouldn’t believe my fish n chips, if they were wrapped in the Daily Record.

Do Rangers have European football next season? Can't see any other reason he would prefer them over us, it's not like the weather is any better.

I was up there last week and said to the tour guide, at St Andrews cathedral, nobody comes to Scotland for the weather. An Italian piped up and said he preferred it to Italy. However he obviously didn’t realise he was there in Scotlands summer, which was Wednesday and Thursday last week.

Do Rangers have European football next season? Can't see any other reason he would prefer them over us, it's not like the weather is any better.

Europa League.

They're also a much bigger club than us.

Much bigger in what way though? They seem like a bigger club in theory but I'm not so sure in practice. Sure their crowds are much bigger but the Scottish leagues are very weak and there's only really 2 teams and it's not much of a challenge when only 1 team is your competition. I can see the Europa league being a draw but what else would be?

What besides the Scottish only cups have they won? Just seems like a bit of a dead end for players as well but each to their own & if that where he wants to go then that's his decision & good luck to the guy.

No your right, we very similar size clubs. Barely anyone know of rangers outside of the uk. lol. Beggars belief.

Come on Rangers are huge. I take your point that it's an unattractive league to play in and personally I'd take a championship move over one to Celtic or Rangers but still.....

A 5.5 mill offer is very positive from us hopefully we'll get a couple in the next few weeks

That’s a lot of money. I’d never expect us to spend that much unless we are selling one of our players for a substantial fee.

I've said the last few weeks that I think BBM will be backed, others have said similar.

And as has been pointed out by a couple of people on this thread, very few transfers are done with a lump sum paid up front these days. It would be the money spread over four years or so, which doesn't impact the budget too much. That's why Chelsea sign players on eight year contracts.

I think those who say he won't be backed will be pleasantly surprised by the end of the window.

It's been said for a while bbm will be backed but gone are the days we pay stupid money for over the hill journey men

Pretty much every player we sign whilst bbm is at the club will have re sale value

The next few weeks are going to be very interesting and will calm a lot of people nerves

When people say BBM will be backed I was just assuming a million or 2 for a player

Why would people call that being backed?

By being backed we mean being given enough money for the players he wants.

Judge it at the end of the window, not now. But the fact that multiple sources are saying we've made a £5.5m offer is positive, yes?

Rangers are a much bigger club than us People forget as well that the Scandinavian countries always had a lot of Scottish football shown on tv as well and many follow the big Scottish clubs as well

That’s a lot of money. I’d never expect us to spend that much unless we are selling one of our players for a substantial fee.

I've said the last few weeks that I think BBM will be backed, others have said similar.

And as has been pointed out by a couple of people on this thread, very few transfers are done with a lump sum paid up front these days. It would be the money spread over four years or so, which doesn't impact the budget too much. That's why Chelsea sign players on eight year contracts.

I think those who say he won't be backed will be pleasantly surprised by the end of the window.

It's been said for a while bbm will be backed but gone are the days we pay stupid money for over the hill journey men

Pretty much every player we sign whilst bbm is at the club will have re sale value

The next few weeks are going to be very interesting and will calm a lot of people nerves

When people say BBM will be backed I was just assuming a million or 2 for a player

Why would people call that being backed?

By being backed we mean being given enough money for the players he wants.

Judge it at the end of the window, not now. But the fact that multiple sources are saying we've made a £5.5m offer is positive, yes?

Rangers are a much bigger club than us People forget as well that the Scandinavian countries always had a lot of Scottish football shown on tv as well and many follow the big Scottish clubs as well

I agree, I think we'll always find it difficult to compete with Rangers to sign players. Most would always favour a move there. Only way that would change is if we ever get back to the Premier League.

That’s a lot of money. I’d never expect us to spend that much unless we are selling one of our players for a substantial fee.

I've said the last few weeks that I think BBM will be backed, others have said similar.

And as has been pointed out by a couple of people on this thread, very few transfers are done with a lump sum paid up front these days. It would be the money spread over four years or so, which doesn't impact the budget too much. That's why Chelsea sign players on eight year contracts.

I think those who say he won't be backed will be pleasantly surprised by the end of the window.

It's been said for a while bbm will be backed but gone are the days we pay stupid money for over the hill journey men

Pretty much every player we sign whilst bbm is at the club will have re sale value

The next few weeks are going to be very interesting and will calm a lot of people nerves

When people say BBM will be backed I was just assuming a million or 2 for a player

Why would people call that being backed?

By being backed we mean being given enough money for the players he wants.

Judge it at the end of the window, not now. But the fact that multiple sources are saying we've made a £5.5m offer is positive, yes?

Rangers are a much bigger club than us People forget as well that the Scandinavian countries always had a lot of Scottish football shown on tv as well and many follow the big Scottish clubs as well

I agree, I think we'll always find it difficult to compete with Rangers to sign players. Most would always favour a move there. Only way that would change is if we ever get back to the Premier League.

…or offer a better deal

That’s a lot of money. I’d never expect us to spend that much unless we are selling one of our players for a substantial fee.

I've said the last few weeks that I think BBM will be backed, others have said similar.

And as has been pointed out by a couple of people on this thread, very few transfers are done with a lump sum paid up front these days. It would be the money spread over four years or so, which doesn't impact the budget too much. That's why Chelsea sign players on eight year contracts.

I think those who say he won't be backed will be pleasantly surprised by the end of the window.

It's been said for a while bbm will be backed but gone are the days we pay stupid money for over the hill journey men

Pretty much every player we sign whilst bbm is at the club will have re sale value

The next few weeks are going to be very interesting and will calm a lot of people nerves

When people say BBM will be backed I was just assuming a million or 2 for a player

Why would people call that being backed?

By being backed we mean being given enough money for the players he wants.

Judge it at the end of the window, not now. But the fact that multiple sources are saying we've made a £5.5m offer is positive, yes?

Rangers are a much bigger club than us People forget as well that the Scandinavian countries always had a lot of Scottish football shown on tv as well and many follow the big Scottish clubs as well

I agree, I think we'll always find it difficult to compete with Rangers to sign players. Most would always favour a move there. Only way that would change is if we ever get back to the Premier League.

Players come to the Championship as a test and to be in the Premier League shop window.

Do Rangers have European football next season? Can't see any other reason he would prefer them over us, it's not like the weather is any better.

Europa League.

They're also a much bigger club than us.

Much bigger in what way though? They seem like a bigger club in theory but I'm not so sure in practice. Sure their crowds are much bigger but the Scottish leagues are very weak and there's only really 2 teams and it's not much of a challenge when only 1 team is your competition. I can see the Europa league being a draw but what else would be?

What besides the Scottish only cups have they won? Just seems like a bit of a dead end for players as well but each to their own & if that where he wants to go then that's his decision & good luck to the guy.

No your right, we very similar size clubs. Barely anyone know of rangers outside of the uk. lol. Beggars belief.

Come on Rangers are huge. I take your point that it's an unattractive league to play in and personally I'd take a championship move over one to Celtic or Rangers but still.....

A 5.5 mill offer is very positive from us hopefully we'll get a couple in the next few weeks

Huge in what way though besides their crowd size?

I have a brother in law who says the same thing & he came out of the womb waving a Rangers scarf yet he can't even answer that question without a lot of wishful thinking & hand waving.

If it's because they came 3rd in a 2 horse race last season or the European games because if it's the European connection than you may as well play for TNS, they last about as long as Rangers in Europe, all be it with smaller crowds.

I always used to think of Rangers & Celtic as huge teams as well until I lived there & realized there is no real competition & you're either catholic & support Celtic or you're not & generally support Rangers, hence the huge rivalry in the past, and that's why they're thought of as huge. They obviously have the same sort of money to throw around as most Championship clubs do, including us, and would be mid table Championship at best if they were in our league system.

That's why I think people believe they're huge when they're not really. I think this is the trap that our own Mr. Ledley fell into when he moved up there to play for Celtic.

But as I said, if he wants to go there rather than here then good luck to the guy and we move on to someone who wants to be here and play for Cardiff City.

Do Rangers have European football next season? Can't see any other reason he would prefer them over us, it's not like the weather is any better.

Europa League.

They're also a much bigger club than us.

Much bigger in what way though? They seem like a bigger club in theory but I'm not so sure in practice. Sure their crowds are much bigger but the Scottish leagues are very weak and there's only really 2 teams and it's not much of a challenge when only 1 team is your competition. I can see the Europa league being a draw but what else would be?

What besides the Scottish only cups have they won? Just seems like a bit of a dead end for players as well but each to their own & if that where he wants to go then that's his decision & good luck to the guy.

No your right, we very similar size clubs. Barely anyone know of rangers outside of the uk. lol. Beggars belief.

Come on Rangers are huge. I take your point that it's an unattractive league to play in and personally I'd take a championship move over one to Celtic or Rangers but still.....

A 5.5 mill offer is very positive from us hopefully we'll get a couple in the next few weeks

Huge in what way though besides their crowd size?

I have a brother in law who says the same thing & he came out of the womb waving a Rangers scarf yet he can't even answer that question without a lot of wishful thinking & hand waving.

If it's because they came 3rd in a 2 horse race last season or the European games because if it's the European connection than you may as well play for TNS, they last about as long as Rangers in Europe, all be it with smaller crowds.

I always used to think of Rangers & Celtic as huge teams as well until I lived there & realized there is no real competition & you're either catholic & support Celtic or you're not & generally support Rangers, hence the huge rivalry in the past, and that's why they're thought of as huge. They obviously have the same sort of money to throw around as most Championship clubs do, including us, and would be mid table Championship at best if they were in our league system.

That's why I think people believe they're huge when they're not really. I think this is the trap that our own Mr. Ledley fell into when he moved up there to play for Celtic.

But as I said, if he wants to go there rather than here then good luck to the guy and we move on to someone who wants to be here and play for Cardiff City.

Rangers are a bigger club in there country only, but they would not co.pete in the prem, if in the championship they would be facing "us" and big clubs west ham southampton WBA wolves etc which they do not have in scotland apart from celtic ,maybe hearts hibs Aberdeen Dundee that's it.

He's looks like the type of midfielder we've been missing since Jordan Mutch i.e. can carry the ball in the middle of the park and break the line

Do Rangers have European football next season? Can't see any other reason he would prefer them over us, it's not like the weather is any better.

Europa League.

They're also a much bigger club than us.

Much bigger in what way though? They seem like a bigger club in theory but I'm not so sure in practice. Sure their crowds are much bigger but the Scottish leagues are very weak and there's only really 2 teams and it's not much of a challenge when only 1 team is your competition. I can see the Europa league being a draw but what else would be?

What besides the Scottish only cups have they won? Just seems like a bit of a dead end for players as well but each to their own & if that where he wants to go then that's his decision & good luck to the guy.

No your right, we very similar size clubs. Barely anyone know of rangers outside of the uk. lol. Beggars belief.

Come on Rangers are huge. I take your point that it's an unattractive league to play in and personally I'd take a championship move over one to Celtic or Rangers but still.....

A 5.5 mill offer is very positive from us hopefully we'll get a couple in the next few weeks

Huge in what way though besides their crowd size?

I have a brother in law who says the same thing & he came out of the womb waving a Rangers scarf yet he can't even answer that question without a lot of wishful thinking & hand waving.

If it's because they came 3rd in a 2 horse race last season or the European games because if it's the European connection than you may as well play for TNS, they last about as long as Rangers in Europe, all be it with smaller crowds.

I always used to think of Rangers & Celtic as huge teams as well until I lived there & realized there is no real competition & you're either catholic & support Celtic or you're not & generally support Rangers, hence the huge rivalry in the past, and that's why they're thought of as huge. They obviously have the same sort of money to throw around as most Championship clubs do, including us, and would be mid table Championship at best if they were in our league system.

That's why I think people believe they're huge when they're not really. I think this is the trap that our own Mr. Ledley fell into when he moved up there to play for Celtic.

But as I said, if he wants to go there rather than here then good luck to the guy and we move on to someone who wants to be here and play for Cardiff City.

Rangers are a bigger club in there country only, but they would not co.pete in the prem, if in the championship they would be facing "us" and big clubs west ham southampton WBA wolves etc which they do not have in scotland apart from celtic ,maybe hearts hibs Aberdeen Dundee that's it.

I agree with this but in terms of size, they are still way bigger than us.

Rangers is a name known all over the world, Cardiff City is not.

Do Rangers have European football next season? Can't see any other reason he would prefer them over us, it's not like the weather is any better.

Europa League.

They're also a much bigger club than us.

Much bigger in what way though? They seem like a bigger club in theory but I'm not so sure in practice. Sure their crowds are much bigger but the Scottish leagues are very weak and there's only really 2 teams and it's not much of a challenge when only 1 team is your competition. I can see the Europa league being a draw but what else would be?

What besides the Scottish only cups have they won? Just seems like a bit of a dead end for players as well but each to their own & if that where he wants to go then that's his decision & good luck to the guy.

No your right, we very similar size clubs. Barely anyone know of rangers outside of the uk. lol. Beggars belief.

Come on Rangers are huge. I take your point that it's an unattractive league to play in and personally I'd take a championship move over one to Celtic or Rangers but still.....

A 5.5 mill offer is very positive from us hopefully we'll get a couple in the next few weeks

Huge in what way though besides their crowd size?

I have a brother in law who says the same thing & he came out of the womb waving a Rangers scarf yet he can't even answer that question without a lot of wishful thinking & hand waving.

If it's because they came 3rd in a 2 horse race last season or the European games because if it's the European connection than you may as well play for TNS, they last about as long as Rangers in Europe, all be it with smaller crowds.

I always used to think of Rangers & Celtic as huge teams as well until I lived there & realized there is no real competition & you're either catholic & support Celtic or you're not & generally support Rangers, hence the huge rivalry in the past, and that's why they're thought of as huge. They obviously have the same sort of money to throw around as most Championship clubs do, including us, and would be mid table Championship at best if they were in our league system.

That's why I think people believe they're huge when they're not really. I think this is the trap that our own Mr. Ledley fell into when he moved up there to play for Celtic.

But as I said, if he wants to go there rather than here then good luck to the guy and we move on to someone who wants to be here and play for Cardiff City.

Rangers are a bigger club in there country only, but they would not co.pete in the prem, if in the championship they would be facing "us" and big clubs west ham southampton WBA wolves etc which they do not have in scotland apart from celtic ,maybe hearts hibs Aberdeen Dundee that's it.

I agree with this but in terms of size, they are still way bigger than us.

Rangers is a name known all over the world, Cardiff City is not.

We'll just have to agree to disagree then because if that's your measure then Wrexham are a bigger club than both of us put together.

Do Rangers have European football next season? Can't see any other reason he would prefer them over us, it's not like the weather is any better.

Europa League.

They're also a much bigger club than us.

Much bigger in what way though? They seem like a bigger club in theory but I'm not so sure in practice. Sure their crowds are much bigger but the Scottish leagues are very weak and there's only really 2 teams and it's not much of a challenge when only 1 team is your competition. I can see the Europa league being a draw but what else would be?

What besides the Scottish only cups have they won? Just seems like a bit of a dead end for players as well but each to their own & if that where he wants to go then that's his decision & good luck to the guy.

No your right, we very similar size clubs. Barely anyone know of rangers outside of the uk. lol. Beggars belief.

Come on Rangers are huge. I take your point that it's an unattractive league to play in and personally I'd take a championship move over one to Celtic or Rangers but still.....

A 5.5 mill offer is very positive from us hopefully we'll get a couple in the next few weeks

Huge in what way though besides their crowd size?

I have a brother in law who says the same thing & he came out of the womb waving a Rangers scarf yet he can't even answer that question without a lot of wishful thinking & hand waving.

If it's because they came 3rd in a 2 horse race last season or the European games because if it's the European connection than you may as well play for TNS, they last about as long as Rangers in Europe, all be it with smaller crowds.

I always used to think of Rangers & Celtic as huge teams as well until I lived there & realized there is no real competition & you're either catholic & support Celtic or you're not & generally support Rangers, hence the huge rivalry in the past, and that's why they're thought of as huge. They obviously have the same sort of money to throw around as most Championship clubs do, including us, and would be mid table Championship at best if they were in our league system.

That's why I think people believe they're huge when they're not really. I think this is the trap that our own Mr. Ledley fell into when he moved up there to play for Celtic.

But as I said, if he wants to go there rather than here then good luck to the guy and we move on to someone who wants to be here and play for Cardiff City.

Rangers are a bigger club in there country only, but they would not co.pete in the prem, if in the championship they would be facing "us" and big clubs west ham southampton WBA wolves etc which they do not have in scotland apart from celtic ,maybe hearts hibs Aberdeen Dundee that's it.

I agree with this but in terms of size, they are still way bigger than us.

Rangers is a name known all over the world, Cardiff City is not.

We'll just have to agree to disagree then because if that's your measure then Wrexham are a bigger club than both of us put together.

The city of Cardiff is known all around world .... not for football reasons maybe but still known for all that..
But agree with you CA on last point.

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Before the ridiculous TV money came into the game, Rangers were the richest club in the UK.
The biggest movement of British people, since WW2 was the Rangers support in Manchester for the Europa League Final.
There’s 700 Rangers supporters clubs
There’s Rangers pubs in every popular European holiday resort
We hold the world attendance record for a regular 4th tier football match.
I don’t say this in a boastful way, these are all simply facts, nor do I mean any disrespect to the City, I’ve had some great times watching Cardiff, home and away. However saying Rangers are not a bigger club than Cardiff is retarded.
The reason Cardiff will never be one of the biggest clubs in Britain, is because too many “proud” Welsh people support English clubs, clubs they have no familial, historical or geographical connection to.
From a personal point of view, if this guy signs for Rangers great, if not there’s no place I’d rather see him than at the CCS.

Yawn
Before the ridiculous TV money came into the game, Rangers were the richest club in the UK.
The biggest movement of British people, since WW2 was the Rangers support in Manchester for the Europa League Final.
There’s 700 Rangers supporters clubs
There’s Rangers pubs in every popular European holiday resort
We hold the world attendance record for a regular 4th tier football match.
I don’t say this in a boastful way, these are all simply facts, nor do I mean any disrespect to the City, I’ve had some great times watching Cardiff, home and away. However saying Rangers are not a bigger club than Cardiff is retarded.
The reason Cardiff will never be one of the biggest clubs in Britain, is because too many “proud” Welsh people support English clubs, clubs they have no familial, historical or geographical connection to.
From a personal point of view, if this guy signs for Rangers great, if not there’s no place I’d rather see him than at the CCS.

Thanks Jock, some interesting facts there but like Cardiff City most of them are in the distance past. I don't understand the 2nd one though unless you're saying they took more to Manchester than say Liverpool would take to a Champions League final or do you mean just from the other side of the border to the English side? I presume the 4th tier thing is when they got kicked out of the big leagues for being totally broke and going into admin.

As for support I was very surprised to see that Rangers had less than 800k followers on Twitter (okay x if you must) while Wrexham have over 2 million. Have mobile phones & computers reached the masses up there yet? I presume the 4th tier thing

I still don't think they're a huge club anymore due to how rich the richest are but want them to do well as long as they stay up in the frozen tundra that is Glasgow.

Yawn
Before the ridiculous TV money came into the game, Rangers were the richest club in the UK.
The biggest movement of British people, since WW2 was the Rangers support in Manchester for the Europa League Final.
There’s 700 Rangers supporters clubs
There’s Rangers pubs in every popular European holiday resort
We hold the world attendance record for a regular 4th tier football match.
I don’t say this in a boastful way, these are all simply facts, nor do I mean any disrespect to the City, I’ve had some great times watching Cardiff, home and away. However saying Rangers are not a bigger club than Cardiff is retarded.
The reason Cardiff will never be one of the biggest clubs in Britain, is because too many “proud” Welsh people support English clubs, clubs they have no familial, historical or geographical connection to.
From a personal point of view, if this guy signs for Rangers great, if not there’s no place I’d rather see him than at the CCS.

Thanks Jock, some interesting facts there but like Cardiff City most of them are in the distance past. I don't understand the 2nd one though unless you're saying they took more to Manchester than say Liverpool would take to a Champions League final or do you mean just from the other side of the border to the English side? I presume the 4th tier thing is when they got kicked out of the big leagues for being totally broke and going into admin.

As for support I was very surprised to see that Rangers had less than 800k followers on Twitter (okay x if you must) while Wrexham have over 2 million. Have mobile phones & computers reached the masses up there yet? I presume the 4th tier thing

I still don't think they're a huge club anymore due to how rich the richest are but want them to do well as long as they stay up in the frozen tundra that is Glasgow.

Great post jock, you are spot on.
Welshman in CA. You are embarrassing yourself with that reply to jocks post.

Yawn
Before the ridiculous TV money came into the game, Rangers were the richest club in the UK.
The biggest movement of British people, since WW2 was the Rangers support in Manchester for the Europa League Final.
There’s 700 Rangers supporters clubs
There’s Rangers pubs in every popular European holiday resort
We hold the world attendance record for a regular 4th tier football match.
I don’t say this in a boastful way, these are all simply facts, nor do I mean any disrespect to the City, I’ve had some great times watching Cardiff, home and away. However saying Rangers are not a bigger club than Cardiff is retarded.
The reason Cardiff will never be one of the biggest clubs in Britain, is because too many “proud” Welsh people support English clubs, clubs they have no familial, historical or geographical connection to.
From a personal point of view, if this guy signs for Rangers great, if not there’s no place I’d rather see him than at the CCS.

Thanks Jock, some interesting facts there but like Cardiff City most of them are in the distance past. I don't understand the 2nd one though unless you're saying they took more to Manchester than say Liverpool would take to a Champions League final or do you mean just from the other side of the border to the English side? I presume the 4th tier thing is when they got kicked out of the big leagues for being totally broke and going into admin.

As for support I was very surprised to see that Rangers had less than 800k followers on Twitter (okay x if you must) while Wrexham have over 2 million. Have mobile phones & computers reached the masses up there yet? I presume the 4th tier thing

I still don't think they're a huge club anymore due to how rich the richest are but want them to do well as long as they stay up in the frozen tundra that is Glasgow.

Great post jock, you are spot on.
Welshman in CA. You are embarrassing yourself with that reply to jocks post.

Why? I said it was very interesting stuff but embarrassing myself with what? Get over yourself.

Yawn
Before the ridiculous TV money came into the game, Rangers were the richest club in the UK.
The biggest movement of British people, since WW2 was the Rangers support in Manchester for the Europa League Final.
There’s 700 Rangers supporters clubs
There’s Rangers pubs in every popular European holiday resort
We hold the world attendance record for a regular 4th tier football match.
I don’t say this in a boastful way, these are all simply facts, nor do I mean any disrespect to the City, I’ve had some great times watching Cardiff, home and away. However saying Rangers are not a bigger club than Cardiff is retarded.
The reason Cardiff will never be one of the biggest clubs in Britain, is because too many “proud” Welsh people support English clubs, clubs they have no familial, historical or geographical connection to.
From a personal point of view, if this guy signs for Rangers great, if not there’s no place I’d rather see him than at the CCS.

Thanks Jock, some interesting facts there but like Cardiff City most of them are in the distance past. I don't understand the 2nd one though unless you're saying they took more to Manchester than say Liverpool would take to a Champions League final or do you mean just from the other side of the border to the English side? I presume the 4th tier thing is when they got kicked out of the big leagues for being totally broke and going into admin.

As for support I was very surprised to see that Rangers had less than 800k followers on Twitter (okay x if you must) while Wrexham have over 2 million. Have mobile phones & computers reached the masses up there yet? I presume the 4th tier thing

I still don't think they're a huge club anymore due to how rich the richest are but want them to do well as long as they stay up in the frozen tundra that is Glasgow.

Great post jock, you are spot on.
Welshman in CA. You are embarrassing yourself with that reply to jocks post.

Why? I said it was very interesting stuff but embarrassing myself with what? Get over yourself.

To start with a dig at Scottish people not having access to to phones. You tried to argue his points. But keep it going you are hilarious.

Do Rangers have European football next season? Can't see any other reason he would prefer them over us, it's not like the weather is any better.

Europa League.

They're also a much bigger club than us.

Much bigger in what way though? They seem like a bigger club in theory but I'm not so sure in practice. Sure their crowds are much bigger but the Scottish leagues are very weak and there's only really 2 teams and it's not much of a challenge when only 1 team is your competition. I can see the Europa league being a draw but what else would be?

What besides the Scottish only cups have they won? Just seems like a bit of a dead end for players as well but each to their own & if that where he wants to go then that's his decision & good luck to the guy.

No your right, we very similar size clubs. Barely anyone know of rangers outside of the uk. lol. Beggars belief.

Come on Rangers are huge. I take your point that it's an unattractive league to play in and personally I'd take a championship move over one to Celtic or Rangers but still.....

A 5.5 mill offer is very positive from us hopefully we'll get a couple in the next few weeks

Huge in what way though besides their crowd size?

I have a brother in law who says the same thing & he came out of the womb waving a Rangers scarf yet he can't even answer that question without a lot of wishful thinking & hand waving.

If it's because they came 3rd in a 2 horse race last season or the European games because if it's the European connection than you may as well play for TNS, they last about as long as Rangers in Europe, all be it with smaller crowds.

I always used to think of Rangers & Celtic as huge teams as well until I lived there & realized there is no real competition & you're either catholic & support Celtic or you're not & generally support Rangers, hence the huge rivalry in the past, and that's why they're thought of as huge. They obviously have the same sort of money to throw around as most Championship clubs do, including us, and would be mid table Championship at best if they were in our league system.

That's why I think people believe they're huge when they're not really. I think this is the trap that our own Mr. Ledley fell into when he moved up there to play for Celtic.

But as I said, if he wants to go there rather than here then good luck to the guy and we move on to someone who wants to be here and play for Cardiff City.

Rangers are a bigger club in there country only, but they would not co.pete in the prem, if in the championship they would be facing "us" and big clubs west ham southampton WBA wolves etc which they do not have in scotland apart from celtic ,maybe hearts hibs Aberdeen Dundee that's it.

Hmmm, I think they (and the other Glasgow team) would survive in the Premier League, if they had Premier League money and TV rights!

Yawn
Before the ridiculous TV money came into the game, Rangers were the richest club in the UK.
The biggest movement of British people, since WW2 was the Rangers support in Manchester for the Europa League Final.
There’s 700 Rangers supporters clubs
There’s Rangers pubs in every popular European holiday resort
We hold the world attendance record for a regular 4th tier football match.
I don’t say this in a boastful way, these are all simply facts, nor do I mean any disrespect to the City, I’ve had some great times watching Cardiff, home and away. However saying Rangers are not a bigger club than Cardiff is retarded.
The reason Cardiff will never be one of the biggest clubs in Britain, is because too many “proud” Welsh people support English clubs, clubs they have no familial, historical or geographical connection to.
From a personal point of view, if this guy signs for Rangers great, if not there’s no place I’d rather see him than at the CCS.

Thanks Jock, some interesting facts there but like Cardiff City most of them are in the distance past. I don't understand the 2nd one though unless you're saying they took more to Manchester than say Liverpool would take to a Champions League final or do you mean just from the other side of the border to the English side? I presume the 4th tier thing is when they got kicked out of the big leagues for being totally broke and going into admin.

As for support I was very surprised to see that Rangers had less than 800k followers on Twitter (okay x if you must) while Wrexham have over 2 million. Have mobile phones & computers reached the masses up there yet? I presume the 4th tier thing

I still don't think they're a huge club anymore due to how rich the richest are but want them to do well as long as they stay up in the frozen tundra that is Glasgow.

Great post jock, you are spot on.
Welshman in CA. You are embarrassing yourself with that reply to jocks post.

Why? I said it was very interesting stuff but embarrassing myself with what? Get over yourself.

To start with a dig at Scottish people not having access to to phones. You tried to argue his points. But keep it going you are hilarious.

His points were well made like I said already, just because I didn't understand the second point I am arguing, okay. The Scottish part was a joke, I have family there & have lived there myself.

Jock is a big boy and more than capable of saying something if I hurt his feelings, he certainly doesn't need you sticking up for him.

Yawn
Before the ridiculous TV money came into the game, Rangers were the richest club in the UK.
The biggest movement of British people, since WW2 was the Rangers support in Manchester for the Europa League Final.
There’s 700 Rangers supporters clubs
There’s Rangers pubs in every popular European holiday resort
We hold the world attendance record for a regular 4th tier football match.
I don’t say this in a boastful way, these are all simply facts, nor do I mean any disrespect to the City, I’ve had some great times watching Cardiff, home and away. However saying Rangers are not a bigger club than Cardiff is retarded.
The reason Cardiff will never be one of the biggest clubs in Britain, is because too many “proud” Welsh people support English clubs, clubs they have no familial, historical or geographical connection to.
From a personal point of view, if this guy signs for Rangers great, if not there’s no place I’d rather see him than at the CCS.

Thanks Jock, some interesting facts there but like Cardiff City most of them are in the distance past. I don't understand the 2nd one though unless you're saying they took more to Manchester than say Liverpool would take to a Champions League final or do you mean just from the other side of the border to the English side? I presume the 4th tier thing is when they got kicked out of the big leagues for being totally broke and going into admin.

As for support I was very surprised to see that Rangers had less than 800k followers on Twitter (okay x if you must) while Wrexham have over 2 million. Have mobile phones & computers reached the masses up there yet? I presume the 4th tier thing

I still don't think they're a huge club anymore due to how rich the richest are but want them to do well as long as they stay up in the frozen tundra that is Glasgow.

Great post jock, you are spot on.
Welshman in CA. You are embarrassing yourself with that reply to jocks post.

Why? I said it was very interesting stuff but embarrassing myself with what? Get over yourself.

To start with a dig at Scottish people not having access to to phones. You tried to argue his points. But keep it going you are hilarious.

His points were well made like I said already, just because I didn't understand the second point I am arguing, okay. The Scottish part was a joke, I have family there & have lived there myself.

Jock is a big boy and more than capable of saying something if I hurt his feelings, he certainly doesn't need you sticking up for him.

Where did I stick up for him?

It’s becoming clear to me now and understand the point you were making about Cardiff and rangers being same level of club. What you see something as is completely different to the reality.

Please don’t stop. I want to hear more.

Do Rangers have European football next season? Can't see any other reason he would prefer them over us, it's not like the weather is any better.

Europa League.

They're also a much bigger club than us.

Much bigger in what way though? They seem like a bigger club in theory but I'm not so sure in practice. Sure their crowds are much bigger but the Scottish leagues are very weak and there's only really 2 teams and it's not much of a challenge when only 1 team is your competition. I can see the Europa league being a draw but what else would be?

What besides the Scottish only cups have they won? Just seems like a bit of a dead end for players as well but each to their own & if that where he wants to go then that's his decision & good luck to the guy.

No your right, we very similar size clubs. Barely anyone know of rangers outside of the uk. lol. Beggars belief.

Come on Rangers are huge. I take your point that it's an unattractive league to play in and personally I'd take a championship move over one to Celtic or Rangers but still.....

A 5.5 mill offer is very positive from us hopefully we'll get a couple in the next few weeks

Huge in what way though besides their crowd size?

I have a brother in law who says the same thing & he came out of the womb waving a Rangers scarf yet he can't even answer that question without a lot of wishful thinking & hand waving.

If it's because they came 3rd in a 2 horse race last season or the European games because if it's the European connection than you may as well play for TNS, they last about as long as Rangers in Europe, all be it with smaller crowds.

I always used to think of Rangers & Celtic as huge teams as well until I lived there & realized there is no real competition & you're either catholic & support Celtic or you're not & generally support Rangers, hence the huge rivalry in the past, and that's why they're thought of as huge. They obviously have the same sort of money to throw around as most Championship clubs do, including us, and would be mid table Championship at best if they were in our league system.

That's why I think people believe they're huge when they're not really. I think this is the trap that our own Mr. Ledley fell into when he moved up there to play for Celtic.

But as I said, if he wants to go there rather than here then good luck to the guy and we move on to someone who wants to be here and play for Cardiff City.

Rangers are a bigger club in there country only, but they would not co.pete in the prem, if in the championship they would be facing "us" and big clubs west ham southampton WBA wolves etc which they do not have in scotland apart from celtic ,maybe hearts hibs Aberdeen Dundee that's it.

Hmmm, I think they (and the other Glasgow team) would survive in the Premier League, if they had Premier League money and TV rights!

You are spot on Sven. If all things were even they would be both right up there if anyone thinks the squads they have now would be exactly the same as if they were in the premier league for 10 years, is only one level below the ridiculous statement made by Welshman inCA.

Do Rangers have European football next season? Can't see any other reason he would prefer them over us, it's not like the weather is any better.

Europa League.

They're also a much bigger club than us.

Much bigger in what way though? They seem like a bigger club in theory but I'm not so sure in practice. Sure their crowds are much bigger but the Scottish leagues are very weak and there's only really 2 teams and it's not much of a challenge when only 1 team is your competition. I can see the Europa league being a draw but what else would be?

What besides the Scottish only cups have they won? Just seems like a bit of a dead end for players as well but each to their own & if that where he wants to go then that's his decision & good luck to the guy.

No your right, we very similar size clubs. Barely anyone know of rangers outside of the uk. lol. Beggars belief.

Come on Rangers are huge. I take your point that it's an unattractive league to play in and personally I'd take a championship move over one to Celtic or Rangers but still.....

A 5.5 mill offer is very positive from us hopefully we'll get a couple in the next few weeks

Huge in what way though besides their crowd size?

I have a brother in law who says the same thing & he came out of the womb waving a Rangers scarf yet he can't even answer that question without a lot of wishful thinking & hand waving.

If it's because they came 3rd in a 2 horse race last season or the European games because if it's the European connection than you may as well play for TNS, they last about as long as Rangers in Europe, all be it with smaller crowds.

I always used to think of Rangers & Celtic as huge teams as well until I lived there & realized there is no real competition & you're either catholic & support Celtic or you're not & generally support Rangers, hence the huge rivalry in the past, and that's why they're thought of as huge. They obviously have the same sort of money to throw around as most Championship clubs do, including us, and would be mid table Championship at best if they were in our league system.

That's why I think people believe they're huge when they're not really. I think this is the trap that our own Mr. Ledley fell into when he moved up there to play for Celtic.

But as I said, if he wants to go there rather than here then good luck to the guy and we move on to someone who wants to be here and play for Cardiff City.

Rangers are a bigger club in there country only, but they would not co.pete in the prem, if in the championship they would be facing "us" and big clubs west ham southampton WBA wolves etc which they do not have in scotland apart from celtic ,maybe hearts hibs Aberdeen Dundee that's it.

Hmmm, I think they (and the other Glasgow team) would survive in the Premier League, if they had Premier League money and TV rights!

You are spot on Sven. If all things were even they would be both right up there if anyone thinks the squads they have now would be exactly the same as if they were in the premier league for 10 years, is only one level below the ridiculous statement made by Welshman inCA.

I agree.

Rangers are way, way bigger than us. I can’t see how there’s even a debate over it.

Regarding if they played in the championship then they’d soon be in the Prem and become established.

I don't believe one media report we have bid of 5.5m for one player. I doubt we will spend that on 5 players we need to have a go next season and hopefully coming in because if we want to stay up and have a go at least that's what we need in my opinion.

You would be suppised how much crap is posted to get players a move from agents and clubs to the story tellers over transfers and rumous.

I also believe BBM toes the party line with above despite what's put out, the same as any job and he also had a list of players he wanted ready as soon as pre season started so they are up and running for the first game of the season rather than last minute deals that take 4 or 5 weeks to get ready to start games as we have seen that for a good few years now. We will see either way