OT: Henry Nowak handcuffing?

[Sven]

Sludge, I do not like for Annis to lose any board members, but really, why dont you join a political forum, instead of a football one, but i guess you have already done that, Then there is always Mikes message board , or is that not possible? has he banned you.?
This is a football forum, and political stuff does come up quite a lot, but lets be honest, you politicalise everythying. When I was on Mikes board you were exactly the same. Have they had enough of you over there ?

I cant remember you on mikes board

That’s a (poor) politicians response, which simply deflects from the point made

You were seemingly kicked off Mike’s Board for being you, so you are now infesting this one with your narrow self-opinionated views and foul responses to those who dare to think differently

You have ruined another thread that had meaning when it started and all so you can hear the sound of your own voice!

Truly embarrassing; or at least it would be, if you had any self-awareness!

If people are going to post incorrect opinions and pass them off as facts then its perfectly reasonable to call them out

Thats initially what I tend to do but when one gets called a lefty etc etc its diffucult to debate sensibly so there you go

I am not interested in arguing between boards , I know several post over there from here using different names but I cant remember you

It’s not the debate or the differences of opinion that matters. It’s the way you conduct yourself and your offensive tone; and let’s not forget the series of ‘Thicko!’ pm’s you bombarded me with after your last explosion

Let’s set the record straight here; I have NEVER been on Mike’s Board, but I know some who are, and they warned me about your ‘character’ on there when you started to become regular on here

Sadly, your reputation for being an intolerant, intransigent, abusive individual proceeds you!

I have been on here for years and years

I did indeed send you PMs because despite calling yourself a moderator you were about as impartial as a bent high court judge

So, AGAIN you avoid the main point!

Being on here ‘for years’ and only really popping up mainly to push your political bent, does not give you an excuse (or more ‘right’ than any other poster) to abuse people the way you do, just because they don’t think like you (a blessing IMHO but that’s all it is; an opinion)

‘Impartiality’ is simply a word you use as a tool to try and justify your abusive, intolerant tone, and your use of the word ‘moderator’ is another example of your lack of ability to really get to grips with points made to you that you cannot or will not tolerate from others with a different view

It’s not happened, so it just makes you another ‘empty vessel’ that clutches solely to its insular, intransigent views, in order to push an agenda that may or may not have substance in a world where the reality is that the truth is a mix of things that transcend any singular political or other ideology and/or agenda

The pm’s you sent were personally offensive, even though your ‘angry man’ frustrations were really directed at another poster, you were incorrect in your assumptions, and at no point (which I can prove) was I personally derogatory, rude or offensive to you, was I?

Disagreeing with you and telling you so, is not ‘moderating’, it’s just my view, as your posts are yours

Equally, you wouldn’t know what interactions I have with other posters on this (or any other) topic as it develops, would you?

However, the way you put those views across and the way you react to others who don’t share your views is where lines need to be drawn

You’ve destroyed this thread, as you have others, and you’ve not really answered the pertinent questions of myself and others with any dignity, respect, or class

As I’ve said before, and has been confirmed by those who know you on both, you did the same on the other Board and they eventually took action and it’s clear why

Let’s not get to that stage, shall we? It’s just a debate and not a ‘sounding board’ for life’s frustrated souls!

[Sven]

Sludge is/was banned from the other site. I like to stick together with City fans but He's a massive tw*t, can't even debate properly, he's constantly bullying a member elsewhere because he can't debate.

And there we have it! Thank you!

[montyblue]

Has Sludge ever thought of professional counselling for his mental health? I'm not being sarcastic, I am being serious.

This board is the best Cardiff City forum out there. We all post our opinions.....and most respect them, but may vehemently disagree. That's fine, that's what a forum is meant to be.

This guy is just totally abusive and derails a thread in an instant. Politics IS divisive......that is the nature of the beast. But that is OK as debates should be out there with every individual having their own view.

I don't believe in the "cancel culture" as all views should be aired. However, I think repeated name calling and abuse, when you have lost the argument is not right and warnings should be given.

It's quite obvious to me, and millions of the British people, that two tier policing is rampant. Unfortunately this means we have a major systemic problem in our justice system.

I am a white gammon and have 2 white sons. I really do fear for their safety if they go on a night out and get caught up in the wrong place at the wrong time.

When I watched the police body cam footage I literally felt sick. God bless Henry's soul and God bless his family and friends as they attempt a lifetime of recovery.

There are 70 million people in this country , if a majority believed two tier policing was in place then everyone would be voting reform and agreeing with farage

In fact only about 3 in 10 vote Reform so wether you think two tier policing is in place , its a minority view

And the home office stats suggest it isnt either

Not just reform voters think there is two tier policing.

[Forever Blue]

I’ve totally stayed off this Topic.


BUT PLEASE REMEMBER NO ABUSE TO EACH OTHER / THANK YOU

OPINIONS AND VIEWS ALL WELCOME

[montyblue]

I’ve totally stayed off this Topic.


BUT PLEASE REMEMBER NO ABUSE TO EACH OTHER / THANK YOU

OPINIONS AND VIEWS ALL WELCOME

Well said it's a forum for debate we all have different views nobody has to comment simply ignore the topic.

[worcester_ccfc]

Nothing wrong with what Sludge said in my opinion.

[Sven]

I’ve totally stayed off this Topic.


BUT PLEASE REMEMBER NO ABUSE TO EACH OTHER / THANK YOU

OPINIONS AND VIEWS ALL WELCOME

My view, too!

The crass abuse towards others for simply having a ‘different’ view is simply not justified!

[C. Rombie-Coat]

One thing about leftists is the need to pretend that they don’t know certain things in order to present their arguments. There are however those hard of learning individuals who don’t even get that far and simply parrot the latest line.

The Police are generally of course not the sharpest tools and have eternally messed up and covered up. However they increasingly comprise younger people who have had the ‘benefit’ of the State education system as it is today. Thus, they are more susceptible to accepting without any further thought the latest politically correct mantras.

Critical thought (as opposed to critical (race) theory) is not encouraged. They will do as they are told with an increasing level of arrogance and separation from the public.

It is easy therefore, to impose a new system of policing upon us through the introduction of actions designed to support and enforce the State insistence on pushing through its immigration and multi-culti policies.

In the current context I refer you to the Hampshire Constabulary Race ‘Action Plan 2024-2026, which proclaims:

We will protect all of our communities. We will put victims first ensuring that our services and response are accessible to all. We will pursue offenders and deal with offences that cause the most harm to our ethnic minority communities. We want to deliver a policing service to all of our communities and victims that we can be proud of. Our victims will be put first and treated according to their needs regardless of any differences that may exist.’
'
Officers are to be trained in the grievances of specific communities. They are not trained to treat every member of the public as an equal before the Law regardless of which ‘community’ makes an accusation against them.

This is of course a green light to any one of colour as they say to cry ‘raciss’ and in poor Henry’s case have the victim of in my opinion a (reverse) racist stabbing die in despicable circumstances in street gravel. The Police policy is to weigh against the Briton without hesitation.

The crucial point – deliberately missed by some- is that it is not simply the Police actions and those of the murderer and his family that are to blame here it is the State and local Police policies that create the structure within which this can happen.

As someone said, you do not get 10000 child rape victims over decades without the Police being part of the problem. That is the evidence of structural racism, not just a few incompetent coppers. This is the State in action against us.

Then today, two-tier Kier evades the issues raised by Henry’s murder by hiding behind the family. Starmer would understand, as a lawyer, that the case against Henry Nowak's killer was brought by the Crown, on behalf of everyone. It was not a private prosecution.

Nobody wants to cause the Novak family additional anguish, but this case was brought to trial for the public good. The issues it raises remain in the public domain and are entirely legitimate subjects for political debate and private thought and should not be supressed.

Two-tier you will not forget, went to Southport after the dreadful racist murder of the young girls at the dance school then after 10 minutes promptly farked awf back to London for a Liebour Party reception.

[TheHangedMan]

Nothing wrong with what Sludge said in my opinion.

Fair do's Ned, if that is your opinion that's fine.

That said, you are a moderator of this board, and if you believe calling anybody the C word, along with many other disparaging and abusive terms is OK.......so be it!

I just think in a debate there is no need for such vile terms directed at posters of this board, maybe you don't!

[Igovernor]

Nothing wrong with what Sludge said in my opinion.

Fair do's Ned, if that is your opinion that's fine.

That said, you are a moderator of this board, and if you believe calling anybody the C word, along with many other disparaging and abusive terms is OK.......so be it!

I just think in a debate there is no need for such vile terms directed at posters of this board, maybe you don't!

Jim got to agree with you here, no way do i agree with anything that sludge has posted, you do not abuse posters the way he has

[worcester_ccfc]

Nothing wrong with what Sludge said in my opinion.

Fair do's Ned, if that is your opinion that's fine.

That said, you are a moderator of this board, and if you believe calling anybody the C word, along with many other disparaging and abusive terms is OK.......so be it!

I just think in a debate there is no need for such vile terms directed at posters of this board, maybe you don't!

We obviously have a difference of opinion. Not my job to defend him but like I said, I didn't see anything wrong in anything he said.

I find it troubling that people are so bothered about a few swear words (which we've all heard before anyway) but don't mind a senior politician inciting violence, especially when the victim's father has made it clear that they didn't want that.

[Jock]

Nothing wrong with what Sludge said in my opinion.

Fair do's Ned, if that is your opinion that's fine.

That said, you are a moderator of this board, and if you believe calling anybody the C word, along with many other disparaging and abusive terms is OK.......so be it!

I just think in a debate there is no need for such vile terms directed at posters of this board, maybe you don't!

We obviously have a difference of opinion. Not my job to defend him but like I said, I didn't see anything wrong in anything he said.

I find it troubling that people are so bothered about a few swear words (which we've all heard before anyway) but don't mind a senior politician inciting violence, especially when the victim's father has made it clear that they didn't want that.

Inciting violence?
We should be raging over what extreme left doctrine has led to. The divisions in society it has caused and ultimately the desperation to value social cohesion higher, than the lives of British people. Wonder if the vile scum, who couldn’t wait to take a knee, for a violent, criminal, misogynist, class A drug user, who died in a country thousands of miles from our own,will take one for Henry Nowak? Course not, there’s no political mileage in it.

[Starvinmarvin]

Nothing wrong with what Sludge said in my opinion.

Fair do's Ned, if that is your opinion that's fine.

That said, you are a moderator of this board, and if you believe calling anybody the C word, along with many other disparaging and abusive terms is OK.......so be it!

I just think in a debate there is no need for such vile terms directed at posters of this board, maybe you don't!

We obviously have a difference of opinion. Not my job to defend him but like I said, I didn't see anything wrong in anything he said.

I find it troubling that people are so bothered about a few swear words (which we've all heard before anyway) but don't mind a senior politician inciting violence, especially when the victim's father has made it clear that they didn't want that.

Inciting violence?
We should be raging over what extreme left doctrine has led to. The divisions in society it has caused and ultimately the desperation to value social cohesion higher, than the lives of British people. Wonder if the vile scum, who couldn’t wait to take a knee, for a violent, criminal, misogynist, class A drug user, who died in a country thousands of miles from our own,will take one for Henry Nowak? Course not, there’s no political mileage in it.

Inciting violence haha, someone's been watching too much tv. Mostly peaceful protest I heard

[TheHangedMan]

Nothing wrong with what Sludge said in my opinion.

Fair do's Ned, if that is your opinion that's fine.

That said, you are a moderator of this board, and if you believe calling anybody the C word, along with many other disparaging and abusive terms is OK.......so be it!

I just think in a debate there is no need for such vile terms directed at posters of this board, maybe you don't!

We obviously have a difference of opinion. Not my job to defend him but like I said, I didn't see anything wrong in anything he said.

I find it troubling that people are so bothered about a few swear words (which we've all heard before anyway) but don't mind a senior politician inciting violence, especially when the victim's father has made it clear that they didn't want that.

Please would you let me know which politician you are referring to who incited violence?

Just to be clear, if you are referring to Nigel Farage you are either misguided or telling porkies to suit your own agenda.

What does "cold rage mean" - Google response:

"Cold rage (or "cold anger") is a highly suppressed, controlled form of intense fury. Unlike a "hot" explosion of yelling or lashing out, it is calm, deeply calculated, and quiet. People experiencing it detach emotionally and become chillingly focused, rather than losing control."

If you interpret that as inciting violence you have lost the plot!

[montyblue]

People all getting worked up what farage said is rediclious, starmer hiding behind the families word so it can all be brushed under the carpet is far worse and the floyd protest there was rioting on a big scale stataue's thrown in the sea and the police seemed to be watching more than policing in Bristol.
Farage is ahead of the game just the same as the boat crossing and illegal entry into the country he mentioned this 10/12 years ago and was correct he now has mentioned this to discuss,
if we waited until starmer wants anything discussed about this the same as with the grooming gangs he would be out of office and long gone.

[razorboy]

Nothing wrong with what Sludge said in my opinion.

Fair do's Ned, if that is your opinion that's fine.

That said, you are a moderator of this board, and if you believe calling anybody the C word, along with many other disparaging and abusive terms is OK.......so be it!

I just think in a debate there is no need for such vile terms directed at posters of this board, maybe you don't!

We obviously have a difference of opinion. Not my job to defend him but like I said, I didn't see anything wrong in anything he said.

I find it troubling that people are so bothered about a few swear words (which we've all heard before anyway) but don't mind a senior politician inciting violence, especially when the victim's father has made it clear that they didn't want that.

Please would you let me know which politician you are referring to who incited violence?

Just to be clear, if you are referring to Nigel Farage you are either misguided or telling porkies to suit your own agenda.

What does "cold rage mean" - Google response:

"Cold rage (or "cold anger") is a highly suppressed, controlled form of intense fury. Unlike a "hot" explosion of yelling or lashing out, it is calm, deeply calculated, and quiet. People experiencing it detach emotionally and become chillingly focused, rather than losing control."

If you interpret that as inciting violence you have lost the plot!

If this involved two "white" people Farage would not have said a thing. No political capital in it. Instead he spoke out in a cold and calculating way knowing
full well his toady
Yaxley-Lennon would cause trouble.

[The Cobra Returns]

Nothing wrong with what Sludge said in my opinion.

Fair do's Ned, if that is your opinion that's fine.

That said, you are a moderator of this board, and if you believe calling anybody the C word, along with many other disparaging and abusive terms is OK.......so be it!

I just think in a debate there is no need for such vile terms directed at posters of this board, maybe you don't!

We obviously have a difference of opinion. Not my job to defend him but like I said, I didn't see anything wrong in anything he said.

I find it troubling that people are so bothered about a few swear words (which we've all heard before anyway) but don't mind a senior politician inciting violence, especially when the victim's father has made it clear that they didn't want that.

Please would you let me know which politician you are referring to who incited violence?

Just to be clear, if you are referring to Nigel Farage you are either misguided or telling porkies to suit your own agenda.

What does "cold rage mean" - Google response:

"Cold rage (or "cold anger") is a highly suppressed, controlled form of intense fury. Unlike a "hot" explosion of yelling or lashing out, it is calm, deeply calculated, and quiet. People experiencing it detach emotionally and become chillingly focused, rather than losing control."

If you interpret that as inciting violence you have lost the plot!

If this involved two "white" people Farage would not have said a thing. No political capital in it. Instead he spoke out in a cold and calculating way knowing
full well his toady
Yaxley-Lennon would cause trouble.

Absolute rubbish, NF said exactly what needed saying,what most already know 2/3 tier etc.the rats are the mob sat opposite him.

[Jock]

Nothing wrong with what Sludge said in my opinion.

Fair do's Ned, if that is your opinion that's fine.

That said, you are a moderator of this board, and if you believe calling anybody the C word, along with many other disparaging and abusive terms is OK.......so be it!

I just think in a debate there is no need for such vile terms directed at posters of this board, maybe you don't!

We obviously have a difference of opinion. Not my job to defend him but like I said, I didn't see anything wrong in anything he said.

I find it troubling that people are so bothered about a few swear words (which we've all heard before anyway) but don't mind a senior politician inciting violence, especially when the victim's father has made it clear that they didn't want that.

Please would you let me know which politician you are referring to who incited violence?

Just to be clear, if you are referring to Nigel Farage you are either misguided or telling porkies to suit your own agenda.

What does "cold rage mean" - Google response:

"Cold rage (or "cold anger") is a highly suppressed, controlled form of intense fury. Unlike a "hot" explosion of yelling or lashing out, it is calm, deeply calculated, and quiet. People experiencing it detach emotionally and become chillingly focused, rather than losing control."

If you interpret that as inciting violence you have lost the plot!

If this involved two "white" people Farage would not have said a thing. No political capital in it. Instead he spoke out in a cold and calculating way knowing
full well his toady
Yaxley-Lennon would cause trouble.

So a bit like Justine Damond in Minneapolis. Don’t recall mass protests for her murder.
Have to say the hypocrisy of the pretend left really is nauseating. The people who hit British streets, when a vile yank was killed in USA, rioting and throwing missiles at British Police, now condemn British people’s anger over the police treatment of Henry Nowak.
The extreme left Guardian, who called for RAGE over the Floyd murder, now critisises Farage, who called for cold rage over Henry’s death. BTW Farage has nothing to do with Tommy Robinson.

[Bluebina]

Nothing wrong with what Sludge said in my opinion.

Fair do's Ned, if that is your opinion that's fine.

That said, you are a moderator of this board, and if you believe calling anybody the C word, along with many other disparaging and abusive terms is OK.......so be it!

I just think in a debate there is no need for such vile terms directed at posters of this board, maybe you don't!

We obviously have a difference of opinion. Not my job to defend him but like I said, I didn't see anything wrong in anything he said.

I find it troubling that people are so bothered about a few swear words (which we've all heard before anyway) but don't mind a senior politician inciting violence, especially when the victim's father has made it clear that they didn't want that.

Please would you let me know which politician you are referring to who incited violence?

Just to be clear, if you are referring to Nigel Farage you are either misguided or telling porkies to suit your own agenda.

What does "cold rage mean" - Google response:

"Cold rage (or "cold anger") is a highly suppressed, controlled form of intense fury. Unlike a "hot" explosion of yelling or lashing out, it is calm, deeply calculated, and quiet. People experiencing it detach emotionally and become chillingly focused, rather than losing control."

If you interpret that as inciting violence you have lost the plot!

If this involved two "white" people Farage would not have said a thing. No political capital in it. Instead he spoke out in a cold and calculating way knowing
full well his toady
Yaxley-Lennon would cause trouble.

If there was a racial element and the facts were exactly the same the reaction would be exactly the same.

[worcester_ccfc]

Nothing wrong with what Sludge said in my opinion.

Fair do's Ned, if that is your opinion that's fine.

That said, you are a moderator of this board, and if you believe calling anybody the C word, along with many other disparaging and abusive terms is OK.......so be it!

I just think in a debate there is no need for such vile terms directed at posters of this board, maybe you don't!

We obviously have a difference of opinion. Not my job to defend him but like I said, I didn't see anything wrong in anything he said.

I find it troubling that people are so bothered about a few swear words (which we've all heard before anyway) but don't mind a senior politician inciting violence, especially when the victim's father has made it clear that they didn't want that.

Please would you let me know which politician you are referring to who incited violence?

Just to be clear, if you are referring to Nigel Farage you are either misguided or telling porkies to suit your own agenda.

What does "cold rage mean" - Google response:

"Cold rage (or "cold anger") is a highly suppressed, controlled form of intense fury. Unlike a "hot" explosion of yelling or lashing out, it is calm, deeply calculated, and quiet. People experiencing it detach emotionally and become chillingly focused, rather than losing control."

If you interpret that as inciting violence you have lost the plot!

Come on. You seem like an intelligent person, unlike Monty.

It was clear what the politician in question was doing. His refusal yesterday to condemn the violence is proof of that.

I'm no fan of Kemi Badenoch but I felt her response was proportionate. A stark difference to this politician's response.

[Jock]

Nothing wrong with what Sludge said in my opinion.

Fair do's Ned, if that is your opinion that's fine.

That said, you are a moderator of this board, and if you believe calling anybody the C word, along with many other disparaging and abusive terms is OK.......so be it!

I just think in a debate there is no need for such vile terms directed at posters of this board, maybe you don't!

We obviously have a difference of opinion. Not my job to defend him but like I said, I didn't see anything wrong in anything he said.

I find it troubling that people are so bothered about a few swear words (which we've all heard before anyway) but don't mind a senior politician inciting violence, especially when the victim's father has made it clear that they didn't want that.

Please would you let me know which politician you are referring to who incited violence?

Just to be clear, if you are referring to Nigel Farage you are either misguided or telling porkies to suit your own agenda.

What does "cold rage mean" - Google response:

"Cold rage (or "cold anger") is a highly suppressed, controlled form of intense fury. Unlike a "hot" explosion of yelling or lashing out, it is calm, deeply calculated, and quiet. People experiencing it detach emotionally and become chillingly focused, rather than losing control."

If you interpret that as inciting violence you have lost the plot!

Come on. You seem like an intelligent person, unlike Monty.

It was clear what the politician in question was doing. His refusal yesterday to condemn the violence is proof of that.

I'm no fan of Kemi Badenoch but I felt her response was proportionate. A stark difference to this politician's response.

Did you condemn the BLM violence, either here or in the States?

[worcester_ccfc]

Nothing wrong with what Sludge said in my opinion.

Fair do's Ned, if that is your opinion that's fine.

That said, you are a moderator of this board, and if you believe calling anybody the C word, along with many other disparaging and abusive terms is OK.......so be it!

I just think in a debate there is no need for such vile terms directed at posters of this board, maybe you don't!

We obviously have a difference of opinion. Not my job to defend him but like I said, I didn't see anything wrong in anything he said.

I find it troubling that people are so bothered about a few swear words (which we've all heard before anyway) but don't mind a senior politician inciting violence, especially when the victim's father has made it clear that they didn't want that.

Please would you let me know which politician you are referring to who incited violence?

Just to be clear, if you are referring to Nigel Farage you are either misguided or telling porkies to suit your own agenda.

What does "cold rage mean" - Google response:

"Cold rage (or "cold anger") is a highly suppressed, controlled form of intense fury. Unlike a "hot" explosion of yelling or lashing out, it is calm, deeply calculated, and quiet. People experiencing it detach emotionally and become chillingly focused, rather than losing control."

If you interpret that as inciting violence you have lost the plot!

Come on. You seem like an intelligent person, unlike Monty.

It was clear what the politician in question was doing. His refusal yesterday to condemn the violence is proof of that.

I'm no fan of Kemi Badenoch but I felt her response was proportionate. A stark difference to this politician's response.

Did you condemn the BLM violence, either here or in the States?

I think any sort of disorder should be condemned. The violence from BLM supporters in America was also not a good look for anyone.

In the same way I felt it was right to prescribe Palestine Action as a terror group due to their actions and the behaviour of Just Stop Oil protesters was ridiculous.

[Jock]

Nothing wrong with what Sludge said in my opinion.

Fair do's Ned, if that is your opinion that's fine.

That said, you are a moderator of this board, and if you believe calling anybody the C word, along with many other disparaging and abusive terms is OK.......so be it!

I just think in a debate there is no need for such vile terms directed at posters of this board, maybe you don't!

We obviously have a difference of opinion. Not my job to defend him but like I said, I didn't see anything wrong in anything he said.

I find it troubling that people are so bothered about a few swear words (which we've all heard before anyway) but don't mind a senior politician inciting violence, especially when the victim's father has made it clear that they didn't want that.

Please would you let me know which politician you are referring to who incited violence?

Just to be clear, if you are referring to Nigel Farage you are either misguided or telling porkies to suit your own agenda.

What does "cold rage mean" - Google response:

"Cold rage (or "cold anger") is a highly suppressed, controlled form of intense fury. Unlike a "hot" explosion of yelling or lashing out, it is calm, deeply calculated, and quiet. People experiencing it detach emotionally and become chillingly focused, rather than losing control."

If you interpret that as inciting violence you have lost the plot!

Come on. You seem like an intelligent person, unlike Monty.

It was clear what the politician in question was doing. His refusal yesterday to condemn the violence is proof of that.

I'm no fan of Kemi Badenoch but I felt her response was proportionate. A stark difference to this politician's response.

Did you condemn the BLM violence, either here or in the States?

I think any sort of disorder should be condemned. The violence from BLM supporters in America was also not a good look for anyone.

In the same way I felt it was right to prescribe Palestine Action as a terror group due to their actions and the behaviour of Just Stop Oil protesters was ridiculous.

Fair play

[TheHangedMan]

This is exactly why this country is going down the gurgler at a rapid rate of knots. Started by the Tories and accelerated by Starmer's far left lunacy, they don't want you to talk and discuss the deep rooted anti-white racism in our police force.

They just say "Oh look over there at that nasty politician".........and deflect from the problem right in front of our eyes.

If people in this country cannot see that two tier policing is rife in this country, caused by a massive pendulum swing since the Stephen Lawrence murder, followed by extreme DEI training, there really is no hope for cohesion and a united country.

[Starvinmarvin]

This is exactly why this country is going down the gurgler at a rapid rate of knots. Started by the Tories and accelerated by Starmer's far left lunacy, they don't want you to talk and discuss the deep rooted anti-white racism in our police force.

They just say "Oh look over there at that nasty politician".........and deflect from the problem right in front of our eyes.

If people in this country cannot see that two tier policing is rife in this country, caused by a massive pendulum swing since the Stephen Lawrence murder, followed by extreme DEI training, there really is no hope for cohesion and a united country.

You only have to look at the BLM movement, their behaviour was completely justified by politicians and the media. Any protest that doesn't fit the narrative is demonized called "far right", when in fact it's mostly normal people who are sick of what's going on in their country. Everyone should be policed the same. What everyone agreed on is colourblind policing, what we've ended up with is more racist policing just in the other direction

[montyblue]

Nothing wrong with what Sludge said in my opinion.

Fair do's Ned, if that is your opinion that's fine.

That said, you are a moderator of this board, and if you believe calling anybody the C word, along with many other disparaging and abusive terms is OK.......so be it!

I just think in a debate there is no need for such vile terms directed at posters of this board, maybe you don't!

We obviously have a difference of opinion. Not my job to defend him but like I said, I didn't see anything wrong in anything he said.

I find it troubling that people are so bothered about a few swear words (which we've all heard before anyway) but don't mind a senior politician inciting violence, especially when the victim's father has made it clear that they didn't want that.

Please would you let me know which politician you are referring to who incited violence?

Just to be clear, if you are referring to Nigel Farage you are either misguided or telling porkies to suit your own agenda.

What does "cold rage mean" - Google response:

"Cold rage (or "cold anger") is a highly suppressed, controlled form of intense fury. Unlike a "hot" explosion of yelling or lashing out, it is calm, deeply calculated, and quiet. People experiencing it detach emotionally and become chillingly focused, rather than losing control."

If you interpret that as inciting violence you have lost the plot!

Come on. You seem like an intelligent person, unlike Monty.

It was clear what the politician in question was doing. His refusal yesterday to condemn the violence is proof of that.

I'm no fan of Kemi Badenoch but I felt her response was proportionate. A stark difference to this politician's response.

NED
What you insulting me for again? is there any need to poke fun at my lack of intellegence.

[worcester_ccfc]

This is exactly why this country is going down the gurgler at a rapid rate of knots. Started by the Tories and accelerated by Starmer's far left lunacy, they don't want you to talk and discuss the deep rooted anti-white racism in our police force.

They just say "Oh look over there at that nasty politician".........and deflect from the problem right in front of our eyes.

If people in this country cannot see that two tier policing is rife in this country, caused by a massive pendulum swing since the Stephen Lawrence murder, followed by extreme DEI training, there really is no hope for cohesion and a united country.

No, what they want is people to respect the wishes of a father who has lost his son.

But never mind that, because a few people decided they want a scrap so they just decide they'll use this as a lame excuse. It's pathetic. They should behave like human beings, not f*cking animals.

And they are cunts, the lot of them. And so is anybody who depends them.

There are questions to ask for the police but responding with rage or anger is not the way to go.

Although not the case on the night in question, the majority of police officers are people doing their best in a difficult job. They don't deserve to be assaulted by thugs.

[TheHangedMan]

This is exactly why this country is going down the gurgler at a rapid rate of knots. Started by the Tories and accelerated by Starmer's far left lunacy, they don't want you to talk and discuss the deep rooted anti-white racism in our police force.

They just say "Oh look over there at that nasty politician".........and deflect from the problem right in front of our eyes.

If people in this country cannot see that two tier policing is rife in this country, caused by a massive pendulum swing since the Stephen Lawrence murder, followed by extreme DEI training, there really is no hope for cohesion and a united country.

No, what they want is people to respect the wishes of a father who has lost his son.

But never mind that, because a few people decided they want a scrap so they just decide they'll use this as a lame excuse. It's pathetic. They should behave like human beings, not f*cking animals.

And they are cunts, the lot of them. And so is anybody who depends them.

There are questions to ask for the police but responding with rage or anger is not the way to go.

There we go again, left wing deflection, but not addressing the actual issue of two tier policing.

Straight question Ned: Do you believe that the DEI training has affected police judgement (as stated by ex-officers of the Hampshire police)?

[Jock]

This is exactly why this country is going down the gurgler at a rapid rate of knots. Started by the Tories and accelerated by Starmer's far left lunacy, they don't want you to talk and discuss the deep rooted anti-white racism in our police force.

They just say "Oh look over there at that nasty politician".........and deflect from the problem right in front of our eyes.

If people in this country cannot see that two tier policing is rife in this country, caused by a massive pendulum swing since the Stephen Lawrence murder, followed by extreme DEI training, there really is no hope for cohesion and a united country.

No, what they want is people to respect the wishes of a father who has lost his son.

But never mind that, because a few people decided they want a scrap so they just decide they'll use this as a lame excuse. It's pathetic. They should behave like human beings, not f*cking animals.

And they are cunts, the lot of them. And so is anybody who depends them.

There are questions to ask for the police but responding with rage or anger is not the way to go.

Although not the case on the night in question, the majority of police officers are people doing their best in a difficult job. They don't deserve to be assaulted by thugs.

The lot of them?
I watched a bit on YouTube and the majority were there to show respect for Henry , a minutes silence was held in his memory. However there was an element there who thought chanting Kier Starmers a wanker and while this is undoubtedly accurate, last night wasn’t the time to chant it. A relatively small number of coked up clowns, were just looking for an excuse for civil disobedience and an opportunity to attack the old bill. With the amount of phone footage, many of them will be looking at jail time

[worcester_ccfc]

This is exactly why this country is going down the gurgler at a rapid rate of knots. Started by the Tories and accelerated by Starmer's far left lunacy, they don't want you to talk and discuss the deep rooted anti-white racism in our police force.

They just say "Oh look over there at that nasty politician".........and deflect from the problem right in front of our eyes.

If people in this country cannot see that two tier policing is rife in this country, caused by a massive pendulum swing since the Stephen Lawrence murder, followed by extreme DEI training, there really is no hope for cohesion and a united country.

No, what they want is people to respect the wishes of a father who has lost his son.

But never mind that, because a few people decided they want a scrap so they just decide they'll use this as a lame excuse. It's pathetic. They should behave like human beings, not f*cking animals.

And they are cunts, the lot of them. And so is anybody who depends them.

There are questions to ask for the police but responding with rage or anger is not the way to go.

There we go again, left wing deflection, but not addressing the actual issue of two tier policing.

Straight question Ned: Do you believe that the DEI training has affected police judgement (as stated by ex-officers of the Hampshire police)?

Did you not see the bit where I said "there are questions for the police to answer"?

In answer to your question, without having worked within the police I can't say for sure. But there does seem to be some voices suggesting that is the case and they should be advised that all lives matter - white British, other ethnicities and including immigrants.