THIS IS ON YOUR HEAD TAN

Never ever will be Forgiven by Me:

Lied to My Face, gave his word We would Stay Blue:

Changed our Kit and Badge and Laughed at us:



Tan Stripped is off our Pride and Identity and Divided the Fans

Tan has put us in more Debt than We ever were

Tan got us promoted twice and each one ended in Disaster

Three Relegations

When Tan came Were a Championship Club £30 plus Mill in Debt

We are now a League 1 ( Division 3 ) Club at least £110 Mill in Debt

Being also Charged £3.8Mill in in Interest by His Chairman Dalman

Tan could off Sold up 5 times, any Debts he is paying are Caused by him and his Clowns END OFF:

Fair enough Annis, this debt is all his, but if he hadn't picked up Sam and the Riddlers tab when he came on board we wouldn't even have a club to be arguing about either way.

The club wouldn't simply wouldn't exist, if Tan hadn't stepped in. That is the cold harsh reality that I think you and a lot of others often gloss over.

I know you can't forgive him for the red, 100% get that and 100% don't expect you to change your opinion and respect you for that

And I 100% would be happier if we had any better option (am still hoping Bale's consortium can do a deal when we get back to the Championship)

But I also won't forgive Sam for fleecing the club with the Langstone fiasco either and how he fleeced us for £15M while lying to all of our faces.


I'm honestly not sure which makes my blood boil more to be honest, Tan changing the club to red and not giving a damn what the fans thought, treating us like mindless plebs that would just go along with anything

or

Sam claiming to love us, be part of us, be one of us, all the while, taking the club to brink of bankrupcy, lying constantly that he wasn't Langstone, and continuing to put the club in serious danger until he got his reward for screwing us while smiling to our faces.

It was under Sam we had to pull into the services on the way to Preston so Dave Jones could take a call to see if we had been put into liquidation by HMRC or not. It was under Sam we were constantly selling the crown jewels. It was Sam that would make massive promises about budgets in public only for Dave Jones to admit there was no money for transfers.

End of the day, Tan lied to you personally to your face and I get how that would shape your opinion on top of everything else, but for those of us not in anyone's inner circles, Sam lied to all of us, he lied over and over again and screwed the club for his own gain. And hat makes him as bad if not worse than Tan.

Other than Rick... all our owners have been as bad as each other, so I just don't get the constant need to focus on Tan every five minutes when we are having the most enjoyable season in decades in my opinion. Tan, Riddler and Sam equally bad as each other and Kumar was even worse.

Only person with any credibility at the city for decades is Steve Borley, god knows where the club would have been without him. He is a proper bluebird through and through.

You read to much crap in the media.

How do you know we would not have had a Club ???

I know for a Fact Sam was Never ever going to put us under his battle was with Tan who had signed and agreed the £24mill.
As to Sam, before Sam came we virtually never had a club.

As to Sam we were worthless before he came with 4,000 Crowds.



Do we not keep being put under Embargo’s under your Tan? Yes or No?

Are we now not in more debt than ever?

Are we now not in league 1?

Were we not virtually killed as a club under Tans Despicable Rebrand?


Tan had the chance to be the greatest ever owner, yet all he thought and cared about was his so called Red / Not Our Club, A Fact.

You forget I know The Riddler , Tan and Sam personally and I know who the real liars are and who cares or cared really for our club.

Never ever will be Forgiven by Me:

Lied to My Face, gave his word We would Stay Blue:

Changed our Kit and Badge and Laughed at us:



Tan Stripped is off our Pride and Identity and Divided the Fans

Tan has put us in more Debt than We ever were

Tan got us promoted twice and each one ended in Disaster

Three Relegations

When Tan came Were a Championship Club £30 plus Mill in Debt

We are now a League 1 ( Division 3 ) Club at least £110 Mill in Debt

Being also Charged £3.8Mill in in Interest by His Chairman Dalman

Tan could off Sold up 5 times, any Debts he is paying are Caused by him and his Clowns END OFF:

Fair enough Annis, this debt is all his, but if he hadn't picked up Sam and the Riddlers tab when he came on board we wouldn't even have a club to be arguing about either way.

The club wouldn't simply wouldn't exist, if Tan hadn't stepped in. That is the cold harsh reality that I think you and a lot of others often gloss over.

I know you can't forgive him for the red, 100% get that and 100% don't expect you to change your opinion and respect you for that

And I 100% would be happier if we had any better option (am still hoping Bale's consortium can do a deal when we get back to the Championship)

But I also won't forgive Sam for fleecing the club with the Langstone fiasco either and how he fleeced us for £15M while lying to all of our faces.


I'm honestly not sure which makes my blood boil more to be honest, Tan changing the club to red and not giving a damn what the fans thought, treating us like mindless plebs that would just go along with anything

or

Sam claiming to love us, be part of us, be one of us, all the while, taking the club to brink of bankrupcy, lying constantly that he wasn't Langstone, and continuing to put the club in serious danger until he got his reward for screwing us while smiling to our faces.

It was under Sam we had to pull into the services on the way to Preston so Dave Jones could take a call to see if we had been put into liquidation by HMRC or not. It was under Sam we were constantly selling the crown jewels. It was Sam that would make massive promises about budgets in public only for Dave Jones to admit there was no money for transfers.

End of the day, Tan lied to you personally to your face and I get how that would shape your opinion on top of everything else, but for those of us not in anyone's inner circles, Sam lied to all of us, he lied over and over again and screwed the club for his own gain. And hat makes him as bad if not worse than Tan.

Other than Rick... all our owners have been as bad as each other, so I just don't get the constant need to focus on Tan every five minutes when we are having the most enjoyable season in decades in my opinion. Tan, Riddler and Sam equally bad as each other and Kumar was even worse.

Only person with any credibility at the city for decades is Steve Borley, god knows where the club would have been without him. He is a proper bluebird through and through.

You read to much crap in the media.

How do you know we would not have had a Club ???

I know for a Fact Sam was Never ever going to put us under his battle was with Tan who had signed and agreed the £24mill.
As to Sam, before Sam came we virtually never had a club.

As to Sam we were worthless before he came with 4,000 Crowds.



Do we not keep being put under Embargo’s under your Tan? Yes or No?

Are we now not in more debt than ever?

Are we now not in league 1?

Were we not virtually killed as a club under Tans Despicable Rebrand?


Tan had the chance to be the greatest ever owner, yet all he thought and cared about was his so called Red / Not Our Club, A Fact.

You forget I know The Riddler , Tan and Sam personally and I know who the real liars are and who cares or cared really for our club.

Lets start with a correction, it was less than 4000 but more like 2000 if we got lucky. I recall walking the Bob Bank, spoilt for choice, and when I got bored of that I would pick my step to sit on and I would still have a full view of the pitch.

As for those knocking Sam who took us from the pit of the dungeon to knocking on the door on the Premier, well what an ungrateful spoilt brats you lot are. I'm not sure what went wrong with him, it fills like there are a few missing pieces of the jigsaw solution that one day will appear and tell us all the truth.

Never ever will be Forgiven by Me:

Lied to My Face, gave his word We would Stay Blue:

Changed our Kit and Badge and Laughed at us:



Tan Stripped is off our Pride and Identity and Divided the Fans

Tan has put us in more Debt than We ever were

Tan got us promoted twice and each one ended in Disaster

Three Relegations

When Tan came Were a Championship Club £30 plus Mill in Debt

We are now a League 1 ( Division 3 ) Club at least £110 Mill in Debt

Being also Charged £3.8Mill in in Interest by His Chairman Dalman

Tan could off Sold up 5 times, any Debts he is paying are Caused by him and his Clowns END OFF:

Fair enough Annis, this debt is all his, but if he hadn't picked up Sam and the Riddlers tab when he came on board we wouldn't even have a club to be arguing about either way.

The club wouldn't simply wouldn't exist, if Tan hadn't stepped in. That is the cold harsh reality that I think you and a lot of others often gloss over.

I know you can't forgive him for the red, 100% get that and 100% don't expect you to change your opinion and respect you for that

And I 100% would be happier if we had any better option (am still hoping Bale's consortium can do a deal when we get back to the Championship)

But I also won't forgive Sam for fleecing the club with the Langstone fiasco either and how he fleeced us for £15M while lying to all of our faces.


I'm honestly not sure which makes my blood boil more to be honest, Tan changing the club to red and not giving a damn what the fans thought, treating us like mindless plebs that would just go along with anything

or

Sam claiming to love us, be part of us, be one of us, all the while, taking the club to brink of bankrupcy, lying constantly that he wasn't Langstone, and continuing to put the club in serious danger until he got his reward for screwing us while smiling to our faces.

It was under Sam we had to pull into the services on the way to Preston so Dave Jones could take a call to see if we had been put into liquidation by HMRC or not. It was under Sam we were constantly selling the crown jewels. It was Sam that would make massive promises about budgets in public only for Dave Jones to admit there was no money for transfers.

End of the day, Tan lied to you personally to your face and I get how that would shape your opinion on top of everything else, but for those of us not in anyone's inner circles, Sam lied to all of us, he lied over and over again and screwed the club for his own gain. And hat makes him as bad if not worse than Tan.

Other than Rick... all our owners have been as bad as each other, so I just don't get the constant need to focus on Tan every five minutes when we are having the most enjoyable season in decades in my opinion. Tan, Riddler and Sam equally bad as each other and Kumar was even worse.

Only person with any credibility at the city for decades is Steve Borley, god knows where the club would have been without him. He is a proper bluebird through and through.

You read to much crap in the media.

How do you know we would not have had a Club ???

I know for a Fact Sam was Never ever going to put us under his battle was with Tan who had signed and agreed the £24mill.
As to Sam, before Sam came we virtually never had a club.

As to Sam we were worthless before he came with 4,000 Crowds.



Do we not keep being put under Embargo’s under your Tan? Yes or No?

Are we now not in more debt than ever?

Are we now not in league 1?

Were we not virtually killed as a club under Tans Despicable Rebrand?


Tan had the chance to be the greatest ever owner, yet all he thought and cared about was his so called Red / Not Our Club, A Fact.

You forget I know The Riddler , Tan and Sam personally and I know who the real liars are and who cares or cared really for our club.

Lets start with a correction, it was less than 4000 but more like 2000 if we got lucky. I recall walking the Bob Bank, spoilt for choice, and when I got bored of that I would pick my step to sit on and I would still have a full view of the pitch.

As for those knocking Sam who took us from the pit of the dungeon to knocking on the door on the Premier, well what an ungrateful spoilt brats you lot are. I'm not sure what went wrong with him, it fills like there are a few missing pieces of the jigsaw solution that one day will appear and tell us all the truth.

My apologies Ian,

I was trying to be generous to the Tan fan.

Your right and don’t forget Sam has never been Relegared.


What he’s done is try and change the Topic and bring up 19 yes ago.

Tan has been in charge 16 years and we are far worse of now than when he arrived .

He’s Also Forgot Tan has always promised us we would be Debt Free???

I don’t get involved in the politics of it all. I do know that Sam Hammams reign were some of my best times following Cardiff.

I don’t get involved in the politics of it all. I do know that Sam Hammams reign were some of my best times following Cardiff.

They were better because we were in the lower leagues and we weren’t a bunch of entitled spoilt babies then, as we were all one unified bunch. Least Tan has brought the lower leagues back and I’m loving this season, more like the old days. This is where we belong b

I don’t get involved in the politics of it all. I do know that Sam Hammams reign were some of my best times following Cardiff.

In modern day football

Mine were as well Simon

Never ever will be Forgiven by Me:

Lied to My Face, gave his word We would Stay Blue:

Changed our Kit and Badge and Laughed at us:



Tan Stripped is off our Pride and Identity and Divided the Fans

Tan has put us in more Debt than We ever were

Tan got us promoted twice and each one ended in Disaster

Three Relegations

When Tan came Were a Championship Club £30 plus Mill in Debt

We are now a League 1 ( Division 3 ) Club at least £110 Mill in Debt

Being also Charged £3.8Mill in in Interest by His Chairman Dalman

Tan could off Sold up 5 times, any Debts he is paying are Caused by him and his Clowns END OFF:

Fair enough Annis, this debt is all his, but if he hadn't picked up Sam and the Riddlers tab when he came on board we wouldn't even have a club to be arguing about either way.

The club wouldn't simply wouldn't exist, if Tan hadn't stepped in. That is the cold harsh reality that I think you and a lot of others often gloss over.

I know you can't forgive him for the red, 100% get that and 100% don't expect you to change your opinion and respect you for that

And I 100% would be happier if we had any better option (am still hoping Bale's consortium can do a deal when we get back to the Championship)

But I also won't forgive Sam for fleecing the club with the Langstone fiasco either and how he fleeced us for £15M while lying to all of our faces.


I'm honestly not sure which makes my blood boil more to be honest, Tan changing the club to red and not giving a damn what the fans thought, treating us like mindless plebs that would just go along with anything

or

Sam claiming to love us, be part of us, be one of us, all the while, taking the club to brink of bankrupcy, lying constantly that he wasn't Langstone, and continuing to put the club in serious danger until he got his reward for screwing us while smiling to our faces.

It was under Sam we had to pull into the services on the way to Preston so Dave Jones could take a call to see if we had been put into liquidation by HMRC or not. It was under Sam we were constantly selling the crown jewels. It was Sam that would make massive promises about budgets in public only for Dave Jones to admit there was no money for transfers.

End of the day, Tan lied to you personally to your face and I get how that would shape your opinion on top of everything else, but for those of us not in anyone's inner circles, Sam lied to all of us, he lied over and over again and screwed the club for his own gain. And hat makes him as bad if not worse than Tan.

Other than Rick... all our owners have been as bad as each other, so I just don't get the constant need to focus on Tan every five minutes when we are having the most enjoyable season in decades in my opinion. Tan, Riddler and Sam equally bad as each other and Kumar was even worse.

Only person with any credibility at the city for decades is Steve Borley, god knows where the club would have been without him. He is a proper bluebird through and through.

You read to much crap in the media.

How do you know we would not have had a Club ???

I know for a Fact Sam was Never ever going to put us under his battle was with Tan who had signed and agreed the £24mill.
As to Sam, before Sam came we virtually never had a club.

As to Sam we were worthless before he came with 4,000 Crowds.



Do we not keep being put under Embargo’s under your Tan? Yes or No?

Are we now not in more debt than ever?

Are we now not in league 1?

Were we not virtually killed as a club under Tans Despicable Rebrand?


Tan had the chance to be the greatest ever owner, yet all he thought and cared about was his so called Red / Not Our Club, A Fact.

You forget I know The Riddler , Tan and Sam personally and I know who the real liars are and who cares or cared really for our club.

That is very true before Sam there was nothing. We were absolutely floundering.

His battle was with Riddler and the egg men when he threatened administration on us not Tan. That was much later.

Never ever will be Forgiven by Me:

Lied to My Face, gave his word We would Stay Blue:

Changed our Kit and Badge and Laughed at us:



Tan Stripped is off our Pride and Identity and Divided the Fans

Tan has put us in more Debt than We ever were

Tan got us promoted twice and each one ended in Disaster

Three Relegations

When Tan came Were a Championship Club £30 plus Mill in Debt

We are now a League 1 ( Division 3 ) Club at least £110 Mill in Debt

Being also Charged £3.8Mill in in Interest by His Chairman Dalman

Tan could off Sold up 5 times, any Debts he is paying are Caused by him and his Clowns END OFF:

Fair enough Annis, this debt is all his, but if he hadn't picked up Sam and the Riddlers tab when he came on board we wouldn't even have a club to be arguing about either way.

The club wouldn't simply wouldn't exist, if Tan hadn't stepped in. That is the cold harsh reality that I think you and a lot of others often gloss over.

I know you can't forgive him for the red, 100% get that and 100% don't expect you to change your opinion and respect you for that

And I 100% would be happier if we had any better option (am still hoping Bale's consortium can do a deal when we get back to the Championship)

But I also won't forgive Sam for fleecing the club with the Langstone fiasco either and how he fleeced us for £15M while lying to all of our faces.


I'm honestly not sure which makes my blood boil more to be honest, Tan changing the club to red and not giving a damn what the fans thought, treating us like mindless plebs that would just go along with anything

or

Sam claiming to love us, be part of us, be one of us, all the while, taking the club to brink of bankrupcy, lying constantly that he wasn't Langstone, and continuing to put the club in serious danger until he got his reward for screwing us while smiling to our faces.

It was under Sam we had to pull into the services on the way to Preston so Dave Jones could take a call to see if we had been put into liquidation by HMRC or not. It was under Sam we were constantly selling the crown jewels. It was Sam that would make massive promises about budgets in public only for Dave Jones to admit there was no money for transfers.

End of the day, Tan lied to you personally to your face and I get how that would shape your opinion on top of everything else, but for those of us not in anyone's inner circles, Sam lied to all of us, he lied over and over again and screwed the club for his own gain. And hat makes him as bad if not worse than Tan.

Other than Rick... all our owners have been as bad as each other, so I just don't get the constant need to focus on Tan every five minutes when we are having the most enjoyable season in decades in my opinion. Tan, Riddler and Sam equally bad as each other and Kumar was even worse.

Only person with any credibility at the city for decades is Steve Borley, god knows where the club would have been without him. He is a proper bluebird through and through.

You read to much crap in the media.

How do you know we would not have had a Club ???

I know for a Fact Sam was Never ever going to put us under his battle was with Tan who had signed and agreed the £24mill.
As to Sam, before Sam came we virtually never had a club.

As to Sam we were worthless before he came with 4,000 Crowds.



Do we not keep being put under Embargo’s under your Tan? Yes or No?

Are we now not in more debt than ever?

Are we now not in league 1?

Were we not virtually killed as a club under Tans Despicable Rebrand?


Tan had the chance to be the greatest ever owner, yet all he thought and cared about was his so called Red / Not Our Club, A Fact.

You forget I know The Riddler , Tan and Sam personally and I know who the real liars are and who cares or cared really for our club.

Lets start with a correction, it was less than 4000 but more like 2000 if we got lucky. I recall walking the Bob Bank, spoilt for choice, and when I got bored of that I would pick my step to sit on and I would still have a full view of the pitch.

As for those knocking Sam who took us from the pit of the dungeon to knocking on the door on the Premier, well what an ungrateful spoilt brats you lot are. I'm not sure what went wrong with him, it fills like there are a few missing pieces of the jigsaw solution that one day will appear and tell us all the truth.

Sam really got us rocking and turned a base level of support from very low yo 5 figures. So many current fans started during his reign.

But to say he took us to knocking on the door of the premier league is very disingenuous.

Just for arguments sake when did Sam hand over control to Riddler et rugby wankrs?

Never ever will be Forgiven by Me:

Lied to My Face, gave his word We would Stay Blue:

Changed our Kit and Badge and Laughed at us:



Tan Stripped is off our Pride and Identity and Divided the Fans

Tan has put us in more Debt than We ever were

Tan got us promoted twice and each one ended in Disaster

Three Relegations

When Tan came Were a Championship Club £30 plus Mill in Debt

We are now a League 1 ( Division 3 ) Club at least £110 Mill in Debt

Being also Charged £3.8Mill in in Interest by His Chairman Dalman

Tan could off Sold up 5 times, any Debts he is paying are Caused by him and his Clowns END OFF:

Fair enough Annis, this debt is all his, but if he hadn't picked up Sam and the Riddlers tab when he came on board we wouldn't even have a club to be arguing about either way.

The club wouldn't simply wouldn't exist, if Tan hadn't stepped in. That is the cold harsh reality that I think you and a lot of others often gloss over.

I know you can't forgive him for the red, 100% get that and 100% don't expect you to change your opinion and respect you for that

And I 100% would be happier if we had any better option (am still hoping Bale's consortium can do a deal when we get back to the Championship)

But I also won't forgive Sam for fleecing the club with the Langstone fiasco either and how he fleeced us for £15M while lying to all of our faces.


I'm honestly not sure which makes my blood boil more to be honest, Tan changing the club to red and not giving a damn what the fans thought, treating us like mindless plebs that would just go along with anything

or

Sam claiming to love us, be part of us, be one of us, all the while, taking the club to brink of bankrupcy, lying constantly that he wasn't Langstone, and continuing to put the club in serious danger until he got his reward for screwing us while smiling to our faces.

It was under Sam we had to pull into the services on the way to Preston so Dave Jones could take a call to see if we had been put into liquidation by HMRC or not. It was under Sam we were constantly selling the crown jewels. It was Sam that would make massive promises about budgets in public only for Dave Jones to admit there was no money for transfers.

End of the day, Tan lied to you personally to your face and I get how that would shape your opinion on top of everything else, but for those of us not in anyone's inner circles, Sam lied to all of us, he lied over and over again and screwed the club for his own gain. And hat makes him as bad if not worse than Tan.

Other than Rick... all our owners have been as bad as each other, so I just don't get the constant need to focus on Tan every five minutes when we are having the most enjoyable season in decades in my opinion. Tan, Riddler and Sam equally bad as each other and Kumar was even worse.

Only person with any credibility at the city for decades is Steve Borley, god knows where the club would have been without him. He is a proper bluebird through and through.

You read to much crap in the media.

How do you know we would not have had a Club ???

I know for a Fact Sam was Never ever going to put us under his battle was with Tan who had signed and agreed the £24mill.
As to Sam, before Sam came we virtually never had a club.

As to Sam we were worthless before he came with 4,000 Crowds.



Do we not keep being put under Embargo’s under your Tan? Yes or No?

Are we now not in more debt than ever?

Are we now not in league 1?

Were we not virtually killed as a club under Tans Despicable Rebrand?


Tan had the chance to be the greatest ever owner, yet all he thought and cared about was his so called Red / Not Our Club, A Fact.

You forget I know The Riddler , Tan and Sam personally and I know who the real liars are and who cares or cared really for our club.

Lets start with a correction, it was less than 4000 but more like 2000 if we got lucky. I recall walking the Bob Bank, spoilt for choice, and when I got bored of that I would pick my step to sit on and I would still have a full view of the pitch.

As for those knocking Sam who took us from the pit of the dungeon to knocking on the door on the Premier, well what an ungrateful spoilt brats you lot are. I'm not sure what went wrong with him, it fills like there are a few missing pieces of the jigsaw solution that one day will appear and tell us all the truth.

My apologies Ian,

I was trying to be generous to the Tan fan.

Your right and don’t forget Sam has never been Relegared.


What he’s done is try and change the Topic and bring up 19 yes ago.

Tan has been in charge 16 years and we are far worse of now than when he arrived .

He’s Also Forgot Tan has always promised us we would be Debt Free???

"The Tan Fan", Your nothing if not consitently predictble Annis mate

Love the fact you had to drop that in despite the fact that I said in each of my posts I stated I'd don't particularly like the man and would be happy to see him go.

And as for unspoilt brats, yeah maybe your right, I totally accept that criticism.

Hard not to argue exactly the same label should be applied to all those who have a melt down when we don't sign a bunch of lower-league mediocre journeymen, assuming the owner hasn't backed the manger (despite no actual evidence to confirm that was the case and the manager actually saying the opposite)

Especially, when the owner they call "Dictator" took us to two cup finals and the premier league twice and kept us the championship for two decades, built the academy we have now flourishing and hired the best manager we've ever had.

It obviously should go both ways, can't have one with the other.

For the record I am actually very grateful to Sam for the good he did and think it just about outweighs the Langstone stuff, but that really does leave a very nasty taste in the mouth. However, I can say mostly the same of Tan. Some great highs and some very bad tastes in my mouth.

I get you have a closer perspective.

Sam put you in his inner circle, you were (probably still are) close friends and you're a loyal guy - respect that. Tan comes in, you're not in that inner circle anymore, then he lied to your face and did the rebrand and your not a guy that can forgive that - again respect tha.

But you got to realise mate, you're the super fan, the one in Sam's inner circle, the one on the podcasts, the one with the books and the forum - the rest of us regular Joe's? We don't have that inside knowledge and we don't have those close friendships or disagreements to shape tour opinion.

You're right, all we get is what we see in the media, on here and in the court documents, so we have to make our minds up on that, and we can't do much about shit.

So for us normal folks, end of the day, owners come and go and thats that. They do some good stuff some teriible stuff and we just get on with the footy.

We have the luxury of not having to take Sam's side cos he's our mate, or have to have a life-long vendetta against Tan cos he lied to us. And so this season when everything is going right for once, the whole Tan is the Devil thing is just really boring, and the pro Sam anti-Tan bias just comes off as a guy with a lot of influence grinding out a vendatta against someone he doesn't like while backing up his mate.

Nothing particularly wrong with that, but if we're being honest, its never going to be balanced and there's plenty of people on here who just echo what you say because of who you are.

Sorry, if that offends, genuinely have a lot of respect for you and appreciate the effort you put into building the site, its my first port of call for City news and the only site I comment on, but I'm just the type of person that has to say it as I see it, just never been good at the fake it to fit in thing and at my age now can't be arsed changing that.

Never ever will be Forgiven by Me:

Lied to My Face, gave his word We would Stay Blue:

Changed our Kit and Badge and Laughed at us:



Tan Stripped is off our Pride and Identity and Divided the Fans

Tan has put us in more Debt than We ever were

Tan got us promoted twice and each one ended in Disaster

Three Relegations

When Tan came Were a Championship Club £30 plus Mill in Debt

We are now a League 1 ( Division 3 ) Club at least £110 Mill in Debt

Being also Charged £3.8Mill in in Interest by His Chairman Dalman

Tan could off Sold up 5 times, any Debts he is paying are Caused by him and his Clowns END OFF:

Fair enough Annis, this debt is all his, but if he hadn't picked up Sam and the Riddlers tab when he came on board we wouldn't even have a club to be arguing about either way.

The club wouldn't simply wouldn't exist, if Tan hadn't stepped in. That is the cold harsh reality that I think you and a lot of others often gloss over.

I know you can't forgive him for the red, 100% get that and 100% don't expect you to change your opinion and respect you for that

And I 100% would be happier if we had any better option (am still hoping Bale's consortium can do a deal when we get back to the Championship)

But I also won't forgive Sam for fleecing the club with the Langstone fiasco either and how he fleeced us for £15M while lying to all of our faces.


I'm honestly not sure which makes my blood boil more to be honest, Tan changing the club to red and not giving a damn what the fans thought, treating us like mindless plebs that would just go along with anything

or

Sam claiming to love us, be part of us, be one of us, all the while, taking the club to brink of bankrupcy, lying constantly that he wasn't Langstone, and continuing to put the club in serious danger until he got his reward for screwing us while smiling to our faces.

It was under Sam we had to pull into the services on the way to Preston so Dave Jones could take a call to see if we had been put into liquidation by HMRC or not. It was under Sam we were constantly selling the crown jewels. It was Sam that would make massive promises about budgets in public only for Dave Jones to admit there was no money for transfers.

End of the day, Tan lied to you personally to your face and I get how that would shape your opinion on top of everything else, but for those of us not in anyone's inner circles, Sam lied to all of us, he lied over and over again and screwed the club for his own gain. And hat makes him as bad if not worse than Tan.

Other than Rick... all our owners have been as bad as each other, so I just don't get the constant need to focus on Tan every five minutes when we are having the most enjoyable season in decades in my opinion. Tan, Riddler and Sam equally bad as each other and Kumar was even worse.

Only person with any credibility at the city for decades is Steve Borley, god knows where the club would have been without him. He is a proper bluebird through and through.

You read to much crap in the media.

How do you know we would not have had a Club ???

I know for a Fact Sam was Never ever going to put us under his battle was with Tan who had signed and agreed the £24mill.
As to Sam, before Sam came we virtually never had a club.

As to Sam we were worthless before he came with 4,000 Crowds.



Do we not keep being put under Embargo’s under your Tan? Yes or No?

Are we now not in more debt than ever?

Are we now not in league 1?

Were we not virtually killed as a club under Tans Despicable Rebrand?


Tan had the chance to be the greatest ever owner, yet all he thought and cared about was his so called Red / Not Our Club, A Fact.

You forget I know The Riddler , Tan and Sam personally and I know who the real liars are and who cares or cared really for our club.

Lets start with a correction, it was less than 4000 but more like 2000 if we got lucky. I recall walking the Bob Bank, spoilt for choice, and when I got bored of that I would pick my step to sit on and I would still have a full view of the pitch.

As for those knocking Sam who took us from the pit of the dungeon to knocking on the door on the Premier, well what an ungrateful spoilt brats you lot are. I'm not sure what went wrong with him, it fills like there are a few missing pieces of the jigsaw solution that one day will appear and tell us all the truth.

You're actually mixing up eras a little there.

By the time Sam took over Rick Wright had already revitalised the club from those basement sub 3K attendance days to a more respectable 5/6K by the time he sold up to the Kumars, they then kept it stable at 4K back in the basement for a few years and then with a promotion back to division 2 they actually got the average to just under 8K in their last season before Sam took over.

Sam obvs then really pushed us on and the average attendance across his 5 seasons was just over 13K. Obviously pushing us into the championship was a massive catalyst for the club to grow as it did in the next twenty years.

Yes I am a bit of a statto/saddo

Never ever will be Forgiven by Me:

Lied to My Face, gave his word We would Stay Blue:

Changed our Kit and Badge and Laughed at us:



Tan Stripped is off our Pride and Identity and Divided the Fans

Tan has put us in more Debt than We ever were

Tan got us promoted twice and each one ended in Disaster

Three Relegations

When Tan came Were a Championship Club £30 plus Mill in Debt

We are now a League 1 ( Division 3 ) Club at least £110 Mill in Debt

Being also Charged £3.8Mill in in Interest by His Chairman Dalman

Tan could off Sold up 5 times, any Debts he is paying are Caused by him and his Clowns END OFF:

Fair enough Annis, this debt is all his, but if he hadn't picked up Sam and the Riddlers tab when he came on board we wouldn't even have a club to be arguing about either way.

The club wouldn't simply wouldn't exist, if Tan hadn't stepped in. That is the cold harsh reality that I think you and a lot of others often gloss over.

I know you can't forgive him for the red, 100% get that and 100% don't expect you to change your opinion and respect you for that

And I 100% would be happier if we had any better option (am still hoping Bale's consortium can do a deal when we get back to the Championship)

But I also won't forgive Sam for fleecing the club with the Langstone fiasco either and how he fleeced us for £15M while lying to all of our faces.


I'm honestly not sure which makes my blood boil more to be honest, Tan changing the club to red and not giving a damn what the fans thought, treating us like mindless plebs that would just go along with anything

or

Sam claiming to love us, be part of us, be one of us, all the while, taking the club to brink of bankrupcy, lying constantly that he wasn't Langstone, and continuing to put the club in serious danger until he got his reward for screwing us while smiling to our faces.

It was under Sam we had to pull into the services on the way to Preston so Dave Jones could take a call to see if we had been put into liquidation by HMRC or not. It was under Sam we were constantly selling the crown jewels. It was Sam that would make massive promises about budgets in public only for Dave Jones to admit there was no money for transfers.

End of the day, Tan lied to you personally to your face and I get how that would shape your opinion on top of everything else, but for those of us not in anyone's inner circles, Sam lied to all of us, he lied over and over again and screwed the club for his own gain. And hat makes him as bad if not worse than Tan.

Other than Rick... all our owners have been as bad as each other, so I just don't get the constant need to focus on Tan every five minutes when we are having the most enjoyable season in decades in my opinion. Tan, Riddler and Sam equally bad as each other and Kumar was even worse.

Only person with any credibility at the city for decades is Steve Borley, god knows where the club would have been without him. He is a proper bluebird through and through.

You read to much crap in the media.

How do you know we would not have had a Club ???

I know for a Fact Sam was Never ever going to put us under his battle was with Tan who had signed and agreed the £24mill.
As to Sam, before Sam came we virtually never had a club.

As to Sam we were worthless before he came with 4,000 Crowds.



Do we not keep being put under Embargo’s under your Tan? Yes or No?

Are we now not in more debt than ever?

Are we now not in league 1?

Were we not virtually killed as a club under Tans Despicable Rebrand?


Tan had the chance to be the greatest ever owner, yet all he thought and cared about was his so called Red / Not Our Club, A Fact.

You forget I know The Riddler , Tan and Sam personally and I know who the real liars are and who cares or cared really for our club.

Lets start with a correction, it was less than 4000 but more like 2000 if we got lucky. I recall walking the Bob Bank, spoilt for choice, and when I got bored of that I would pick my step to sit on and I would still have a full view of the pitch.

As for those knocking Sam who took us from the pit of the dungeon to knocking on the door on the Premier, well what an ungrateful spoilt brats you lot are. I'm not sure what went wrong with him, it fills like there are a few missing pieces of the jigsaw solution that one day will appear and tell us all the truth.

My apologies Ian,

I was trying to be generous to the Tan fan.

Your right and don’t forget Sam has never been Relegared.


What he’s done is try and change the Topic and bring up 19 yes ago.

Tan has been in charge 16 years and we are far worse of now than when he arrived .

He’s Also Forgot Tan has always promised us we would be Debt Free???

"The Tan Fan", Your nothing if not consitently predictble Annis mate

Love the fact you had to drop that in despite the fact that I said in each of my posts I stated I'd don't particularly like the man and would be happy to see him go.

And as for unspoilt brats, yeah maybe your right, I totally accept that criticism.

Hard not to argue exactly the same label should be applied to all those who have a melt down when we don't sign a bunch of lower-league mediocre journeymen, assuming the owner hasn't backed the manger (despite no actual evidence to confirm that was the case and the manager actually saying the opposite)

Especially, when the owner they call "Dictator" took us to two cup finals and the premier league twice and kept us the championship for two decades, built the academy we have now flourishing and hired the best manager we've ever had.

It obviously should go both ways, can't have one with the other.

For the record I am actually very grateful to Sam for the good he did and think it just about outweighs the Langstone stuff, but that really does leave a very nasty taste in the mouth. However, I can say mostly the same of Tan. Some great highs and some very bad tastes in my mouth.

I get you have a closer perspective.

Sam put you in his inner circle, you were (probably still are) close friends and you're a loyal guy - respect that. Tan comes in, you're not in that inner circle anymore, then he lied to your face and did the rebrand and your not a guy that can forgive that - again respect tha.

But you got to realise mate, you're the super fan, the one in Sam's inner circle, the one on the podcasts, the one with the books and the forum - the rest of us regular Joe's? We don't have that inside knowledge and we don't have those close friendships or disagreements to shape tour opinion.

You're right, all we get is what we see in the media, on here and in the court documents, so we have to make our minds up on that, and we can't do much about shit.

So for us normal folks, end of the day, owners come and go and thats that. They do some good stuff some teriible stuff and we just get on with the footy.

We have the luxury of not having to take Sam's side cos he's our mate, or have to have a life-long vendetta against Tan cos he lied to us. And so this season when everything is going right for once, the whole Tan is the Devil thing is just really boring, and the pro Sam anti-Tan bias just comes off as a guy with a lot of influence grinding out a vendatta against someone he doesn't like while backing up his mate.

Nothing particularly wrong with that, but if we're being honest, its never going to be balanced and there's plenty of people on here who just echo what you say because of who you are.

Sorry, if that offends, genuinely have a lot of respect for you and appreciate the effort you put into building the site, its my first port of call for City news and the only site I comment on, but I'm just the type of person that has to say it as I see it, just never been good at the fake it to fit in thing and at my age now can't be arsed changing that.

This is a great post and echoes stuff I have said. Annis’ loyalty to Sam (and everyone) is commendable. It’s why he is so well liked by so many.

The good that Tan has done is ignored. He is to blame for the relegations but gets no credit for the promotions. The rise in debt he has overseen is highlighted constantly while the same people refuse to acknowledge that this was done improving the club in so many ways and trying to turn the club into an established premier league team. They also bemoan when Tan won’t authorise adding to that debt which confuses me no end.

It is ignored that Tan’s money saved us from HMRC and we haven’t had no issues paying players or HMRC. It is also ignored that part of the debt was paying off Langstone. Interest payments are constantly highlighted when Sam charged interest too. Tan doesn’t, the despicable Dalman does.

It’s so one sided it’s bonkers. No one now likes Tan or wants him at the club. That’s clear. Yet people who don’t go with taking with the agenda are Tan fans, Tan lovers or the usual suspects.

It’s so divisive when we should be loving it.

Not sure why I’m commenting, I’m an Oxford fan apparently.

Never ever will be Forgiven by Me:

Lied to My Face, gave his word We would Stay Blue:

Changed our Kit and Badge and Laughed at us:



Tan Stripped is off our Pride and Identity and Divided the Fans

Tan has put us in more Debt than We ever were

Tan got us promoted twice and each one ended in Disaster

Three Relegations

When Tan came Were a Championship Club £30 plus Mill in Debt

We are now a League 1 ( Division 3 ) Club at least £110 Mill in Debt

Being also Charged £3.8Mill in in Interest by His Chairman Dalman

Tan could off Sold up 5 times, any Debts he is paying are Caused by him and his Clowns END OFF:

Fair enough Annis, this debt is all his, but if he hadn't picked up Sam and the Riddlers tab when he came on board we wouldn't even have a club to be arguing about either way.

The club wouldn't simply wouldn't exist, if Tan hadn't stepped in. That is the cold harsh reality that I think you and a lot of others often gloss over.

I know you can't forgive him for the red, 100% get that and 100% don't expect you to change your opinion and respect you for that

And I 100% would be happier if we had any better option (am still hoping Bale's consortium can do a deal when we get back to the Championship)

But I also won't forgive Sam for fleecing the club with the Langstone fiasco either and how he fleeced us for £15M while lying to all of our faces.


I'm honestly not sure which makes my blood boil more to be honest, Tan changing the club to red and not giving a damn what the fans thought, treating us like mindless plebs that would just go along with anything

or

Sam claiming to love us, be part of us, be one of us, all the while, taking the club to brink of bankrupcy, lying constantly that he wasn't Langstone, and continuing to put the club in serious danger until he got his reward for screwing us while smiling to our faces.

It was under Sam we had to pull into the services on the way to Preston so Dave Jones could take a call to see if we had been put into liquidation by HMRC or not. It was under Sam we were constantly selling the crown jewels. It was Sam that would make massive promises about budgets in public only for Dave Jones to admit there was no money for transfers.

End of the day, Tan lied to you personally to your face and I get how that would shape your opinion on top of everything else, but for those of us not in anyone's inner circles, Sam lied to all of us, he lied over and over again and screwed the club for his own gain. And hat makes him as bad if not worse than Tan.

Other than Rick... all our owners have been as bad as each other, so I just don't get the constant need to focus on Tan every five minutes when we are having the most enjoyable season in decades in my opinion. Tan, Riddler and Sam equally bad as each other and Kumar was even worse.

Only person with any credibility at the city for decades is Steve Borley, god knows where the club would have been without him. He is a proper bluebird through and through.

You read to much crap in the media.

How do you know we would not have had a Club ???

I know for a Fact Sam was Never ever going to put us under his battle was with Tan who had signed and agreed the £24mill.
As to Sam, before Sam came we virtually never had a club.

As to Sam we were worthless before he came with 4,000 Crowds.



Do we not keep being put under Embargo’s under your Tan? Yes or No?

Are we now not in more debt than ever?

Are we now not in league 1?

Were we not virtually killed as a club under Tans Despicable Rebrand?


Tan had the chance to be the greatest ever owner, yet all he thought and cared about was his so called Red / Not Our Club, A Fact.

You forget I know The Riddler , Tan and Sam personally and I know who the real liars are and who cares or cared really for our club.

Lets start with a correction, it was less than 4000 but more like 2000 if we got lucky. I recall walking the Bob Bank, spoilt for choice, and when I got bored of that I would pick my step to sit on and I would still have a full view of the pitch.

As for those knocking Sam who took us from the pit of the dungeon to knocking on the door on the Premier, well what an ungrateful spoilt brats you lot are. I'm not sure what went wrong with him, it fills like there are a few missing pieces of the jigsaw solution that one day will appear and tell us all the truth.

You're actually mixing up eras a little there.

By the time Sam took over Rick Wright had already revitalised the club from those basement sub 3K attendance days to a more respectable 5/6K by the time he sold up to the Kumars, they then kept it stable at 4K back in the basement for a few years and then with a promotion back to division 2 they actually got the average to just under 8K in their last season before Sam took over.

Sam obvs then really pushed us on and the average attendance across his 5 seasons was just over 13K. Obviously pushing us into the championship was a massive catalyst for the club to grow as it did in the next twenty years.

Yes I am a bit of a statto/saddo

Their you go still trying to change this subject about Tan.

When Sam took over Ninian Park was in terrible need of attention, we were in debt and worthless and We were in Division 4,
Sam got us two Promotions with NO Relegations All Facts

Not media bullshit you keep saying .

Never ever will be Forgiven by Me:

Lied to My Face, gave his word We would Stay Blue:

Changed our Kit and Badge and Laughed at us:



Tan Stripped is off our Pride and Identity and Divided the Fans

Tan has put us in more Debt than We ever were

Tan got us promoted twice and each one ended in Disaster

Three Relegations

When Tan came Were a Championship Club £30 plus Mill in Debt

We are now a League 1 ( Division 3 ) Club at least £110 Mill in Debt

Being also Charged £3.8Mill in in Interest by His Chairman Dalman

Tan could off Sold up 5 times, any Debts he is paying are Caused by him and his Clowns END OFF:

Fair enough Annis, this debt is all his, but if he hadn't picked up Sam and the Riddlers tab when he came on board we wouldn't even have a club to be arguing about either way.

The club wouldn't simply wouldn't exist, if Tan hadn't stepped in. That is the cold harsh reality that I think you and a lot of others often gloss over.

I know you can't forgive him for the red, 100% get that and 100% don't expect you to change your opinion and respect you for that

And I 100% would be happier if we had any better option (am still hoping Bale's consortium can do a deal when we get back to the Championship)

But I also won't forgive Sam for fleecing the club with the Langstone fiasco either and how he fleeced us for £15M while lying to all of our faces.


I'm honestly not sure which makes my blood boil more to be honest, Tan changing the club to red and not giving a damn what the fans thought, treating us like mindless plebs that would just go along with anything

or

Sam claiming to love us, be part of us, be one of us, all the while, taking the club to brink of bankrupcy, lying constantly that he wasn't Langstone, and continuing to put the club in serious danger until he got his reward for screwing us while smiling to our faces.

It was under Sam we had to pull into the services on the way to Preston so Dave Jones could take a call to see if we had been put into liquidation by HMRC or not. It was under Sam we were constantly selling the crown jewels. It was Sam that would make massive promises about budgets in public only for Dave Jones to admit there was no money for transfers.

End of the day, Tan lied to you personally to your face and I get how that would shape your opinion on top of everything else, but for those of us not in anyone's inner circles, Sam lied to all of us, he lied over and over again and screwed the club for his own gain. And hat makes him as bad if not worse than Tan.

Other than Rick... all our owners have been as bad as each other, so I just don't get the constant need to focus on Tan every five minutes when we are having the most enjoyable season in decades in my opinion. Tan, Riddler and Sam equally bad as each other and Kumar was even worse.

Only person with any credibility at the city for decades is Steve Borley, god knows where the club would have been without him. He is a proper bluebird through and through.

You read to much crap in the media.

How do you know we would not have had a Club ???

I know for a Fact Sam was Never ever going to put us under his battle was with Tan who had signed and agreed the £24mill.
As to Sam, before Sam came we virtually never had a club.

As to Sam we were worthless before he came with 4,000 Crowds.



Do we not keep being put under Embargo’s under your Tan? Yes or No?

Are we now not in more debt than ever?

Are we now not in league 1?

Were we not virtually killed as a club under Tans Despicable Rebrand?


Tan had the chance to be the greatest ever owner, yet all he thought and cared about was his so called Red / Not Our Club, A Fact.

You forget I know The Riddler , Tan and Sam personally and I know who the real liars are and who cares or cared really for our club.

Lets start with a correction, it was less than 4000 but more like 2000 if we got lucky. I recall walking the Bob Bank, spoilt for choice, and when I got bored of that I would pick my step to sit on and I would still have a full view of the pitch.

As for those knocking Sam who took us from the pit of the dungeon to knocking on the door on the Premier, well what an ungrateful spoilt brats you lot are. I'm not sure what went wrong with him, it fills like there are a few missing pieces of the jigsaw solution that one day will appear and tell us all the truth.

You're actually mixing up eras a little there.

By the time Sam took over Rick Wright had already revitalised the club from those basement sub 3K attendance days to a more respectable 5/6K by the time he sold up to the Kumars, they then kept it stable at 4K back in the basement for a few years and then with a promotion back to division 2 they actually got the average to just under 8K in their last season before Sam took over.

Sam obvs then really pushed us on and the average attendance across his 5 seasons was just over 13K. Obviously pushing us into the championship was a massive catalyst for the club to grow as it did in the next twenty years.

Yes I am a bit of a statto/saddo

Their you go still trying to change this subject about Tan.

When Sam took over Ninian Park was in terrible need of attention, we were in debt and worthless and We were in Division 4,
Sam got us two Promotions with NO Relegations All Facts

Not media bullshit you keep saying .

I think we are able to ignore the media bullshit mate and make our own minds up. Everyone has their own perspective on stuff that’s what makes the debate so healthy. Ealing has made some very good points and that is his perspective on things.

Everything you do and say is done from love for Sam. Having spoken to you about it (and Sam on one occasion you got him to wish me happy birthday) I know why that love is so deep.

It’s why you are such a class bloke mate and have so much respect from all quarters.

Don’t change Annis.

Never ever will be Forgiven by Me:

Lied to My Face, gave his word We would Stay Blue:

Changed our Kit and Badge and Laughed at us:



Tan Stripped is off our Pride and Identity and Divided the Fans

Tan has put us in more Debt than We ever were

Tan got us promoted twice and each one ended in Disaster

Three Relegations

When Tan came Were a Championship Club £30 plus Mill in Debt

We are now a League 1 ( Division 3 ) Club at least £110 Mill in Debt

Being also Charged £3.8Mill in in Interest by His Chairman Dalman

Tan could off Sold up 5 times, any Debts he is paying are Caused by him and his Clowns END OFF:

Fair enough Annis, this debt is all his, but if he hadn't picked up Sam and the Riddlers tab when he came on board we wouldn't even have a club to be arguing about either way.

The club wouldn't simply wouldn't exist, if Tan hadn't stepped in. That is the cold harsh reality that I think you and a lot of others often gloss over.

I know you can't forgive him for the red, 100% get that and 100% don't expect you to change your opinion and respect you for that

And I 100% would be happier if we had any better option (am still hoping Bale's consortium can do a deal when we get back to the Championship)

But I also won't forgive Sam for fleecing the club with the Langstone fiasco either and how he fleeced us for £15M while lying to all of our faces.


I'm honestly not sure which makes my blood boil more to be honest, Tan changing the club to red and not giving a damn what the fans thought, treating us like mindless plebs that would just go along with anything

or

Sam claiming to love us, be part of us, be one of us, all the while, taking the club to brink of bankrupcy, lying constantly that he wasn't Langstone, and continuing to put the club in serious danger until he got his reward for screwing us while smiling to our faces.

It was under Sam we had to pull into the services on the way to Preston so Dave Jones could take a call to see if we had been put into liquidation by HMRC or not. It was under Sam we were constantly selling the crown jewels. It was Sam that would make massive promises about budgets in public only for Dave Jones to admit there was no money for transfers.

End of the day, Tan lied to you personally to your face and I get how that would shape your opinion on top of everything else, but for those of us not in anyone's inner circles, Sam lied to all of us, he lied over and over again and screwed the club for his own gain. And hat makes him as bad if not worse than Tan.

Other than Rick... all our owners have been as bad as each other, so I just don't get the constant need to focus on Tan every five minutes when we are having the most enjoyable season in decades in my opinion. Tan, Riddler and Sam equally bad as each other and Kumar was even worse.

Only person with any credibility at the city for decades is Steve Borley, god knows where the club would have been without him. He is a proper bluebird through and through.

You read to much crap in the media.

How do you know we would not have had a Club ???

I know for a Fact Sam was Never ever going to put us under his battle was with Tan who had signed and agreed the £24mill.
As to Sam, before Sam came we virtually never had a club.

As to Sam we were worthless before he came with 4,000 Crowds.



Do we not keep being put under Embargo’s under your Tan? Yes or No?

Are we now not in more debt than ever?

Are we now not in league 1?

Were we not virtually killed as a club under Tans Despicable Rebrand?


Tan had the chance to be the greatest ever owner, yet all he thought and cared about was his so called Red / Not Our Club, A Fact.

You forget I know The Riddler , Tan and Sam personally and I know who the real liars are and who cares or cared really for our club.

Lets start with a correction, it was less than 4000 but more like 2000 if we got lucky. I recall walking the Bob Bank, spoilt for choice, and when I got bored of that I would pick my step to sit on and I would still have a full view of the pitch.

As for those knocking Sam who took us from the pit of the dungeon to knocking on the door on the Premier, well what an ungrateful spoilt brats you lot are. I'm not sure what went wrong with him, it fills like there are a few missing pieces of the jigsaw solution that one day will appear and tell us all the truth.

You're actually mixing up eras a little there.

By the time Sam took over Rick Wright had already revitalised the club from those basement sub 3K attendance days to a more respectable 5/6K by the time he sold up to the Kumars, they then kept it stable at 4K back in the basement for a few years and then with a promotion back to division 2 they actually got the average to just under 8K in their last season before Sam took over.

Sam obvs then really pushed us on and the average attendance across his 5 seasons was just over 13K. Obviously pushing us into the championship was a massive catalyst for the club to grow as it did in the next twenty years.

Yes I am a bit of a statto/saddo

Their you go still trying to change this subject about Tan.

When Sam took over Ninian Park was in terrible need of attention, we were in debt and worthless and We were in Division 4,
Sam got us two Promotions with NO Relegations All Facts

Not media bullshit you keep saying .

I think we are able to ignore the media bullshit mate and make our own minds up. Everyone has their own perspective on stuff that’s what makes the debate so healthy. Ealing has made some very good points and that is his perspective on things.

Everything you do and say is done from love for Sam. Having spoken to you about it (and Sam on one occasion you got him to wish me happy birthday) I know why that love is so deep.

It’s why you are such a class bloke mate and have so much respect from all quarters.

Don’t change Annis.

Thank you Neil, Very Much Appreciated .

Sam 100% Loves Cardiff City

Never ever will be Forgiven by Me:

Lied to My Face, gave his word We would Stay Blue:

Changed our Kit and Badge and Laughed at us:



Tan Stripped is off our Pride and Identity and Divided the Fans

Tan has put us in more Debt than We ever were

Tan got us promoted twice and each one ended in Disaster

Three Relegations

When Tan came Were a Championship Club £30 plus Mill in Debt

We are now a League 1 ( Division 3 ) Club at least £110 Mill in Debt

Being also Charged £3.8Mill in in Interest by His Chairman Dalman

Tan could off Sold up 5 times, any Debts he is paying are Caused by him and his Clowns END OFF:

Fair enough Annis, this debt is all his, but if he hadn't picked up Sam and the Riddlers tab when he came on board we wouldn't even have a club to be arguing about either way.

The club wouldn't simply wouldn't exist, if Tan hadn't stepped in. That is the cold harsh reality that I think you and a lot of others often gloss over.

I know you can't forgive him for the red, 100% get that and 100% don't expect you to change your opinion and respect you for that

And I 100% would be happier if we had any better option (am still hoping Bale's consortium can do a deal when we get back to the Championship)

But I also won't forgive Sam for fleecing the club with the Langstone fiasco either and how he fleeced us for £15M while lying to all of our faces.


I'm honestly not sure which makes my blood boil more to be honest, Tan changing the club to red and not giving a damn what the fans thought, treating us like mindless plebs that would just go along with anything

or

Sam claiming to love us, be part of us, be one of us, all the while, taking the club to brink of bankrupcy, lying constantly that he wasn't Langstone, and continuing to put the club in serious danger until he got his reward for screwing us while smiling to our faces.

It was under Sam we had to pull into the services on the way to Preston so Dave Jones could take a call to see if we had been put into liquidation by HMRC or not. It was under Sam we were constantly selling the crown jewels. It was Sam that would make massive promises about budgets in public only for Dave Jones to admit there was no money for transfers.

End of the day, Tan lied to you personally to your face and I get how that would shape your opinion on top of everything else, but for those of us not in anyone's inner circles, Sam lied to all of us, he lied over and over again and screwed the club for his own gain. And hat makes him as bad if not worse than Tan.

Other than Rick... all our owners have been as bad as each other, so I just don't get the constant need to focus on Tan every five minutes when we are having the most enjoyable season in decades in my opinion. Tan, Riddler and Sam equally bad as each other and Kumar was even worse.

Only person with any credibility at the city for decades is Steve Borley, god knows where the club would have been without him. He is a proper bluebird through and through.

You read to much crap in the media.

How do you know we would not have had a Club ???

I know for a Fact Sam was Never ever going to put us under his battle was with Tan who had signed and agreed the £24mill.
As to Sam, before Sam came we virtually never had a club.

As to Sam we were worthless before he came with 4,000 Crowds.



Do we not keep being put under Embargo’s under your Tan? Yes or No?

Are we now not in more debt than ever?

Are we now not in league 1?

Were we not virtually killed as a club under Tans Despicable Rebrand?


Tan had the chance to be the greatest ever owner, yet all he thought and cared about was his so called Red / Not Our Club, A Fact.

You forget I know The Riddler , Tan and Sam personally and I know who the real liars are and who cares or cared really for our club.

Lets start with a correction, it was less than 4000 but more like 2000 if we got lucky. I recall walking the Bob Bank, spoilt for choice, and when I got bored of that I would pick my step to sit on and I would still have a full view of the pitch.

As for those knocking Sam who took us from the pit of the dungeon to knocking on the door on the Premier, well what an ungrateful spoilt brats you lot are. I'm not sure what went wrong with him, it fills like there are a few missing pieces of the jigsaw solution that one day will appear and tell us all the truth.

You're actually mixing up eras a little there.

By the time Sam took over Rick Wright had already revitalised the club from those basement sub 3K attendance days to a more respectable 5/6K by the time he sold up to the Kumars, they then kept it stable at 4K back in the basement for a few years and then with a promotion back to division 2 they actually got the average to just under 8K in their last season before Sam took over.

Sam obvs then really pushed us on and the average attendance across his 5 seasons was just over 13K. Obviously pushing us into the championship was a massive catalyst for the club to grow as it did in the next twenty years.

Yes I am a bit of a statto/saddo

Their you go still trying to change this subject about Tan.

When Sam took over Ninian Park was in terrible need of attention, we were in debt and worthless and We were in Division 4,
Sam got us two Promotions with NO Relegations All Facts

Not media bullshit you keep saying .

Mate, read the comments properly. You're saying I'm taking it off topic when...

• You brought up the gates under Sam.
• Baked corrected you from 4K down to 2K
• I pointed out that was wrong, that Rick brought the gates back up over 2K comfortably, even then under the Kumars they were solid 4K and then I gave Sam credit for pushing the club further.

You make a good comment about Ninian needing attention and Sam stepping in its a totally valid point. But because its about a thread about Tan you start with a pointless dig rather than honest conversation. You're arguments would land so much better if you weren't always on this 'us vs them', 'Sam vs Tan' mentality.

The actual crowd data below for anyone that cares. Although as it doesn't agree with Annis' Official Stats, that Sam sneaked to him in their secret inner circle meetings so its just crap in the media I guess

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Any way whatever, I'm not a Tan lover, Tan Fan, Tan Supporter or anything else you want to say.

Honestly, you dig at Tan so much, and label anyone who disagrees with you even slightly, in such a rapid and predictable manner that at this point you sound like Tan stole your lunch money, shagged your girlfriend and then shat on your front porch, all on the same day (maybe even all at the same time the way you carry on). You're so one sided on the topic you're practically 2D at this point.

Look, joking aside, I honestly think its a massive shame that you let him get into your head so much because I genuinely think you've got the personality, knowledge, respect and status to be a real, proper, unifying force for good for the club, especially in a season like this when there is so much to be positive about. But for whatever reason, you use your position to keep pushing the divide, and then have a go at ordinary fans because we have to read the media and don't have your access.

To say it again one last time super clearly. As far as I am concerned Sam, Riddler, Tan - they all cut from the same cloth and I'll praise them for the good they do and slate them for the bad. Believe it or not that is the position of a lot of people who don't have your access to the inside scoop. It is the fair and balanced view for people that have to deal with being just regular fans.

So fine call me a Tan lover, but if thats the case I must also be a Sam lover. Or call me a Sam hater, and if thats the case I must also be a Tan hater. Because my opinion of both of them and Kumar, and the Riddler is exactly the same.

My last comment on this and bringing it back to the thread at hand - this window wasn't great and it certainly wasn't catastrophic, so end of the day a thread that is titled "This is on your head Tan", when we are top of the league is, as I said, just downright embarrassing.

If BBM comes out and says I wasn't backed fine have a pop then. If we don't get promoted fine - blame this window then.

But at this point, with the information we all have to hand, even those from the "inner circles", all this thread is speculation - a bunch of ifs, could be's and what-ifs, and pure Tan Derangement Syndrome.

Anyways, thats me done, spent too much energy on a negative topic already.

Genuinely, I wish you all the best Annis, and other than when your on your anti-Tan agenda, I enjoy your posts and comments on the actual football side of things and like I said in the earlier post, I am grateful for the effort that goes into the board it is my main source of City info, so I do thank you for that and if you're ever in West London happy to buy you a point to say so

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