Just where do we go from here?

Yes it's great playing tippy , tappy football but where are we going? Another loss to a terrible team we are not the team we all thought we were.

Serious questions starting to be asked of BBM and the sideways backwards tactics

To me, following the fabulous start, we could very well end up in mid table with this squad.
I can't see us bringing in the 'qualiy" that BBM kept banging on about in the winter transfer window, so we may have to accept another season on this division next year.
Hopefully, with this season behind them, our young lads will be all the better for it next season, But I don't think we've got enough to get automatic promotion this season.

Look at the 2 outfield players ge did bring in ???

To me, following the fabulous start, we could very well end up in mid table with this squad.
I can't see us bringing in the 'qualiy" that BBM kept banging on about in the winter transfer window, so we may have to accept another season on this division next year.
Hopefully, with this season behind them, our young lads will be all the better for it next season, But I don't think we've got enough to get automatic promotion this season.

To me, following the fabulous start, we could very well end up in mid table with this squad.
I can't see us bringing in the 'qualiy" that BBM kept banging on about in the winter transfer window, so we may have to accept another season on this division next year.
Hopefully, with this season behind them, our young lads will be all the better for it next season, But I don't think we've got enough to get automatic promotion this season.

f**k me I wouldnt want to be next to you in the trenches. You'd throw the towel in before the first shot was fired

Where do we go from here? What you mean from being in a position where winning our game in hand puts us top?

What an awful position to be in.

Where do we go from here? What you mean from being in a position where winning our game in hand puts us top?

What an awful position to be in.

What makes you think we are going to win our game in hand

Where do we go from here? What you mean from being in a position where winning our game in hand puts us top?

What an awful position to be in.

What makes you think we are going to win our game in hand

I don't have a crystal ball so I don't know either way, but that is the position we're in.

To me, following the fabulous start, we could very well end up in mid table with this squad.
I can't see us bringing in the 'qualiy" that BBM kept banging on about in the winter transfer window, so we may have to accept another season on this division next year.
Hopefully, with this season behind them, our young lads will be all the better for it next season, But I don't think we've got enough to get automatic promotion this season.

f**k me I wouldnt want to be next to you in the trenches. You'd throw the towel in before the first shot was fired

They don’t allow the Flowerpot Men in the trenches sticky.

Nobody on here could possibly know where we go from here but at this moment in time we have to hope that BBM can influence the outcome by adopting if not a safety first approach then a more pragmatic way of defending. We cannot be as cavalier as we have been if our forwards are unable to turn chances into goals. If we come away with a few 0-0's then so be it.

What is evident is the lack of leadership on the field. No Sean Morrison, Graham Kavanagh or anybody of that ilk to be seen

On a more positive note, at least the opposition fans rate our team highly, even saying we're the best they've seen this or last season. By Christmas we will know whether BBM is the real deal as a football manager or a progressive attack-minded coach who is unable to stabilise a creaky defence.

Where do we go from here? What you mean from being in a position where winning our game in hand puts us top?

What an awful position to be in.

What makes you think we are going to win our game in hand

I don't have a crystal ball so I don't know either way, but that is the position we're in.

We are on a terrible run of form. That is the position we are in.

Where do we go from here? What you mean from being in a position where winning our game in hand puts us top?

What an awful position to be in.

What makes you think we are going to win our game in hand

I don't have a crystal ball so I don't know either way, but that is the position we're in.

We are on a terrible run of form. That is the position we are in.

We've had a few bad results, I concede that.

But all this talk of "terrible form" is way off the mark. We've won three and lost four in the last seven in all competitions. That's a blip, but doesn't add up to terrible.

You know we went seven games without winning last season? That's terrible form.

Nobody on here could possibly know where we go from here but at this moment in time we have to hope that BBM can influence the outcome by adopting if not a safety first approach then a more pragmatic way of defending. We cannot be as cavalier as we have been if our forwards are unable to turn chances into goals. If we come away with a few 0-0's then so be it.

What is evident is the lack of leadership on the field. No Sean Morrison, Graham Kavanagh or anybody of that ilk to be seen

On a more positive note, at least the opposition fans rate our team highly, even saying we're the best they've seen this or last season. By Christmas we will know whether BBM is the real deal as a football manager or a progressive attack-minded coach who is unable to stabilise a creaky defence.

Well said Sir, my sentiments exactly.

We are crying out for leadership on the pitch. Colwill has done well when he's had the armband but he's not a captain. Leads by example maybe but he's not the captain we need.

Many of us called for filling this position at the start of the season but it didn't come. Whether it was a lack of money thing, or BBM just didn't want one, we'll never know. But if its the later, it's a great example of where our manager falls down on with his lack of experience. He seems to be building a dressing room nd a camaraderie which is good...but with no leader in there, a promotion will be very hard to come by.

Nobody on here could possibly know where we go from here but at this moment in time we have to hope that BBM can influence the outcome by adopting if not a safety first approach then a more pragmatic way of defending. We cannot be as cavalier as we have been if our forwards are unable to turn chances into goals. If we come away with a few 0-0's then so be it.

What is evident is the lack of leadership on the field. No Sean Morrison, Graham Kavanagh or anybody of that ilk to be seen

On a more positive note, at least the opposition fans rate our team highly, even saying we're the best they've seen this or last season. By Christmas we will know whether BBM is the real deal as a football manager or a progressive attack-minded coach who is unable to stabilise a creaky defence.

Well said Sir, my sentiments exactly.

We are crying out for leadership on the pitch. Colwill has done well when he's had the armband but he's not a captain. Leads by example maybe but he's not the captain we need.

Many of us called for filling this position at the start of the season but it didn't come. Whether it was a lack of money thing, or BBM just didn't want one, we'll never know. But if its the later, it's a great example of where our manager falls down on with his lack of experience. He seems to be building a dressing room nd a camaraderie which is good...but with no leader in there, a promotion will be very hard to come by.

I disagree in this day and age.

The Warnock generation left a lot of the dressing room and on-field stuff to the captain or leadership group.

These modern, system-obsessed, high-rotation, management by numbers generations want to be NFL coaches, calling play's, formations, and changes and adjustments on the run throughout the game.

The days of Keane on an elite level or Kav, Hudson, Gunnarson, Morrison, or Sol making on-field adjustments on what they see, won't happen unless the manager wants that, but it's BBM system, and i only think he is allowed to adapt it.

I watched Peps' star pupils straight after our game. Both Arteta and Maresca play a very similar 4231, but both have genuine pace and intent on the flanks. We simply do not have players for this system.

Pep doesn't always have electric pace out there and often plays "10"'s there. But over time he has had the choice of the world's best Goalkeepers, Centre halfs, defensive midfielders, attacking midfielders and strikers, negating the weaknesses in this system.

I also feel that Joel C is too indisciplined to be the head of the double pivot. That needs to be Robertson. I think he plays the same role as his brother, but he is almost a throwback Gerrard, Lampard version rather than a modern "10"

To me, following the fabulous start, we could very well end up in mid table with this squad.
I can't see us bringing in the 'qualiy" that BBM kept banging on about in the winter transfer window, so we may have to accept another season on this division next year.
Hopefully, with this season behind them, our young lads will be all the better for it next season, But I don't think we've got enough to get automatic promotion this season.

f**k me I wouldnt want to be next to you in the trenches. You'd throw the towel in before the first shot was fired

Nice to see one or two of you remaining so optimistic after the last 3 Saturdays.
I can only imagine this time last season you thought we'd make the play offs.

Nobody on here could possibly know where we go from here but at this moment in time we have to hope that BBM can influence the outcome by adopting if not a safety first approach then a more pragmatic way of defending. We cannot be as cavalier as we have been if our forwards are unable to turn chances into goals. If we come away with a few 0-0's then so be it.

What is evident is the lack of leadership on the field. No Sean Morrison, Graham Kavanagh or anybody of that ilk to be seen

On a more positive note, at least the opposition fans rate our team highly, even saying we're the best they've seen this or last season. By Christmas we will know whether BBM is the real deal as a football manager or a progressive attack-minded coach who is unable to stabilise a creaky defence.

Well said Sir, my sentiments exactly.

We are crying out for leadership on the pitch. Colwill has done well when he's had the armband but he's not a captain. Leads by example maybe but he's not the captain we need.

Many of us called for filling this position at the start of the season but it didn't come. Whether it was a lack of money thing, or BBM just didn't want one, we'll never know. But if its the later, it's a great example of where our manager falls down on with his lack of experience. He seems to be building a dressing room nd a camaraderie which is good...but with no leader in there, a promotion will be very hard to come by.

I disagree in this day and age.

The Warnock generation left a lot of the dressing room and on-field stuff to the captain or leadership group.

These modern, system-obsessed, high-rotation, management by numbers generations want to be NFL coaches, calling play's, formations, and changes and adjustments on the run throughout the game.

The days of Keane on an elite level or Kav, Hudson, Gunnarson, Morrison, or Sol making on-field adjustments on what they see, won't happen unless the manager wants that, but it's BBM system, and i only think he is allowed to adapt it.

I watched Peps' star pupils straight after our game. Both Arteta and Maresca play a very similar 4231, but both have genuine pace and intent on the flanks. We simply do not have players for this system.

Pep doesn't always have electric pace out there and often plays "10"'s there. But over time he has had the choice of the world's best Goalkeepers, Centre halfs, defensive midfielders, attacking midfielders and strikers, negating the weaknesses in this system.

I also feel that Joel C is too indisciplined to be the head of the double pivot. That needs to be Robertson. I think he plays the same role as his brother, but he is almost a throwback Gerrard, Lampard version rather than a modern "10"

I know what you mean Llan_bluebird and agree with lots of what you say there. More and more managers are using this data driven modern approach and BBM is defo one of them and I doubt he's gonna change. I'm not saying it's wrong coz when it works, it's lovely to watch (the Wrexham performance was superb). I also really really want to believe in BBM's mantra.

However, to adopt this rigid approach over a gruelling 46 game season in the lower leagues with very few leaders on the pitch is going to be tough going. We defo have a soft underbelly and we've been 'Warnocked' already quite a few times this season. Throw a dog or 2 into this team (even if they come on off the bench) with a proper leader on the pitch, I think we'd have the tools needed then to go the distance. Without them, I'm struggling to see us make the top 2 based on the season as a whole so far.

For me all that needs rectifying is we MUST start taking our chances 28 shots 11 on target and a last minute goal is not a good enough return. I’d be far more concerned if we weren’t creating chances. I think if we had scored first yesterday we would have won comfortably. Oh and a bit of fair refereeing for Salech may help address the problem

Yes it's great playing tippy , tappy football but where are we going? Another loss to a terrible team we are not the team we all thought we were.

Just were do we go from here you ask .?????
I’ll tell you top of the league if we win our game in hand and
Into the quarter final tie v Chelsea

To me, following the fabulous start, we could very well end up in mid table with this squad.
I can't see us bringing in the 'qualiy" that BBM kept banging on about in the winter transfer window, so we may have to accept another season on this division next year.
Hopefully, with this season behind them, our young lads will be all the better for it next season, But I don't think we've got enough to get automatic promotion this season.

f**k me I wouldnt want to be next to you in the trenches. You'd throw the towel in before the first shot was fired

Me neither and I deffo' wouldn't employ any of them either. Glass half empty merchants the lot of them. Win game in hand and this lot will have us almost relegated. But hey, that's football innit?
Opinions! Their CVs are already in my shredder!

January transfer window will be interesting .