Thu Oct 02, 2025 11:38 am
pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:This situation only moves on if Hamas is eradicated. There is no one who can say that Hamas is a positive. However a definitive and robust security solution must be offered for protection of civilians. That has to be something that can fight back against the IDF if needed and should involved American peacekeepers to truly ensure it is lasting.
Donald Trump being linked to the follow on solution has to be a good thing as his ego will dictate it has to work. Tony Blair is widely respected in America so that will also help.
There’s a lot of big names putting their weight behind this. Make no bones about it. Netanyahu will not be happy with this solution as he has made it clear what he wants. His very right wing coalition partners will also be unhappy with it.
Yes hamas (the terrorists) needs to forced out but must remember yberes a pitiful dude to them and there's Palestinian authority as well ... as for Blair need to look at his history in middle east he did dirty on Palestinian authority and hamas when he was supposed to be their advocate in peace talks in fact its because of that there was no peace agreement which lead to israels occupation and takeover of gaza this goes back many years ago.... what about the Palestinian state? Netanyahu explicitly states there will be no palistinian state and that means the status quo of IDF control no movement no autonomy for the people so what's point of this plan? Everybody agree it's good simply because means they can wash their hands of the problem until problem re survices somewhere down line! Netanyahu wanted immunity from his war crimes as part of deal this deal is a very one sided deal which was put together by Netanyahu if you believe what's been said.
Thu Oct 02, 2025 6:33 pm
pembroke allan wrote:pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:This situation only moves on if Hamas is eradicated. There is no one who can say that Hamas is a positive. However a definitive and robust security solution must be offered for protection of civilians. That has to be something that can fight back against the IDF if needed and should involved American peacekeepers to truly ensure it is lasting.
Donald Trump being linked to the follow on solution has to be a good thing as his ego will dictate it has to work. Tony Blair is widely respected in America so that will also help.
There’s a lot of big names putting their weight behind this. Make no bones about it. Netanyahu will not be happy with this solution as he has made it clear what he wants. His very right wing coalition partners will also be unhappy with it.
Yes hamas (the terrorists) needs to forced out but must remember yberes a pitiful dude to them and there's Palestinian authority as well ... as for Blair need to look at his history in middle east he did dirty on Palestinian authority and hamas when he was supposed to be their advocate in peace talks in fact its because of that there was no peace agreement which lead to israels occupation and takeover of gaza this goes back many years ago.... what about the Palestinian state? Netanyahu explicitly states there will be no palistinian state and that means the status quo of IDF control no movement no autonomy for the people so what's point of this plan? Everybody agree it's good simply because means they can wash their hands of the problem until problem re survices somewhere down line! Netanyahu wanted immunity from his war crimes as part of deal this deal is a very one sided deal which was put together by Netanyahu if you believe what's been said.
Ps what has changed with this deal?
More aid no bombing "maybe" other than that nothing will change
Except no buildings no hospitals no sanitation no water plants no land for crops and 100k+ injured and and countless amputees civilians .... and Israeli people abroad being despised more just like in Manchester today
Thu Oct 02, 2025 7:08 pm
maccydee wrote:pembroke allan wrote:pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:This situation only moves on if Hamas is eradicated. There is no one who can say that Hamas is a positive. However a definitive and robust security solution must be offered for protection of civilians. That has to be something that can fight back against the IDF if needed and should involved American peacekeepers to truly ensure it is lasting.
Donald Trump being linked to the follow on solution has to be a good thing as his ego will dictate it has to work. Tony Blair is widely respected in America so that will also help.
There’s a lot of big names putting their weight behind this. Make no bones about it. Netanyahu will not be happy with this solution as he has made it clear what he wants. His very right wing coalition partners will also be unhappy with it.
Yes hamas (the terrorists) needs to forced out but must remember yberes a pitiful dude to them and there's Palestinian authority as well ... as for Blair need to look at his history in middle east he did dirty on Palestinian authority and hamas when he was supposed to be their advocate in peace talks in fact its because of that there was no peace agreement which lead to israels occupation and takeover of gaza this goes back many years ago.... what about the Palestinian state? Netanyahu explicitly states there will be no palistinian state and that means the status quo of IDF control no movement no autonomy for the people so what's point of this plan? Everybody agree it's good simply because means they can wash their hands of the problem until problem re survices somewhere down line! Netanyahu wanted immunity from his war crimes as part of deal this deal is a very one sided deal which was put together by Netanyahu if you believe what's been said.
Ps what has changed with this deal?
More aid no bombing "maybe" other than that nothing will change
Except no buildings no hospitals no sanitation no water plants no land for crops and 100k+ injured and and countless amputees civilians .... and Israeli people abroad being despised more just like in Manchester today
You keep doing this. Not all Jews are Israeli and not all Israelis are Jews.
What happened in Manchester is inexcusable.
Thu Oct 02, 2025 7:25 pm
pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:pembroke allan wrote:pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:This situation only moves on if Hamas is eradicated. There is no one who can say that Hamas is a positive. However a definitive and robust security solution must be offered for protection of civilians. That has to be something that can fight back against the IDF if needed and should involved American peacekeepers to truly ensure it is lasting.
Donald Trump being linked to the follow on solution has to be a good thing as his ego will dictate it has to work. Tony Blair is widely respected in America so that will also help.
There’s a lot of big names putting their weight behind this. Make no bones about it. Netanyahu will not be happy with this solution as he has made it clear what he wants. His very right wing coalition partners will also be unhappy with it.
Yes hamas (the terrorists) needs to forced out but must remember yberes a pitiful dude to them and there's Palestinian authority as well ... as for Blair need to look at his history in middle east he did dirty on Palestinian authority and hamas when he was supposed to be their advocate in peace talks in fact its because of that there was no peace agreement which lead to israels occupation and takeover of gaza this goes back many years ago.... what about the Palestinian state? Netanyahu explicitly states there will be no palistinian state and that means the status quo of IDF control no movement no autonomy for the people so what's point of this plan? Everybody agree it's good simply because means they can wash their hands of the problem until problem re survices somewhere down line! Netanyahu wanted immunity from his war crimes as part of deal this deal is a very one sided deal which was put together by Netanyahu if you believe what's been said.
Ps what has changed with this deal?
More aid no bombing "maybe" other than that nothing will change
Except no buildings no hospitals no sanitation no water plants no land for crops and 100k+ injured and and countless amputees civilians .... and Israeli people abroad being despised more just like in Manchester today
You keep doing this. Not all Jews are Israeli and not all Israelis are Jews.
What happened in Manchester is inexcusable.
So what do I say out of interest? I know theres Polish check and several other population states that are Jewish heritage....I know just call them Jews and can't go wrong.
Thu Oct 02, 2025 8:06 pm
maccydee wrote:pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:pembroke allan wrote:pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:This situation only moves on if Hamas is eradicated. There is no one who can say that Hamas is a positive. However a definitive and robust security solution must be offered for protection of civilians. That has to be something that can fight back against the IDF if needed and should involved American peacekeepers to truly ensure it is lasting.
Donald Trump being linked to the follow on solution has to be a good thing as his ego will dictate it has to work. Tony Blair is widely respected in America so that will also help.
There’s a lot of big names putting their weight behind this. Make no bones about it. Netanyahu will not be happy with this solution as he has made it clear what he wants. His very right wing coalition partners will also be unhappy with it.
Yes hamas (the terrorists) needs to forced out but must remember yberes a pitiful dude to them and there's Palestinian authority as well ... as for Blair need to look at his history in middle east he did dirty on Palestinian authority and hamas when he was supposed to be their advocate in peace talks in fact its because of that there was no peace agreement which lead to israels occupation and takeover of gaza this goes back many years ago.... what about the Palestinian state? Netanyahu explicitly states there will be no palistinian state and that means the status quo of IDF control no movement no autonomy for the people so what's point of this plan? Everybody agree it's good simply because means they can wash their hands of the problem until problem re survices somewhere down line! Netanyahu wanted immunity from his war crimes as part of deal this deal is a very one sided deal which was put together by Netanyahu if you believe what's been said.
Ps what has changed with this deal?
More aid no bombing "maybe" other than that nothing will change
Except no buildings no hospitals no sanitation no water plants no land for crops and 100k+ injured and and countless amputees civilians .... and Israeli people abroad being despised more just like in Manchester today
You keep doing this. Not all Jews are Israeli and not all Israelis are Jews.
What happened in Manchester is inexcusable.
So what do I say out of interest? I know theres Polish check and several other population states that are Jewish heritage....I know just call them Jews and can't go wrong.
Putting together jews who don’t live in Israel and Israelis. Those Jews at the synagogue today are as much to do with the atrocity going on in Gaza as me and you are.
Fri Oct 03, 2025 8:06 pm
Fri Oct 03, 2025 8:12 pm
Lengee wrote:The attack in Manchester was totally and utterly wrong. One person killed two injured and another mistakenly by the police. Any death whatever nationality are to be condemned. A stupid evil act that spreads fear among the Jewish people in the UK
AND it also gave chance to Israel to claim the GB government were at fault for not supporting his further attacks in Gaza. This is rubbish and the anti semitism is Israels fault for killing innocent people in Gaza!!! …. Over 20,000 kids slaughtered.
Another 70 plus killed in Gaza since dawn today. Over 70% of all deaths are women and children.
When people pray for the 2 killed in the UK they should also pray that Israel stops its evil genocide.
Fri Oct 03, 2025 8:46 pm
maccydee wrote:Lengee wrote:The attack in Manchester was totally and utterly wrong. One person killed two injured and another mistakenly by the police. Any death whatever nationality are to be condemned. A stupid evil act that spreads fear among the Jewish people in the UK
AND it also gave chance to Israel to claim the GB government were at fault for not supporting his further attacks in Gaza. This is rubbish and the anti semitism is Israels fault for killing innocent people in Gaza!!! …. Over 20,000 kids slaughtered.
Another 70 plus killed in Gaza since dawn today. Over 70% of all deaths are women and children.
When people pray for the 2 killed in the UK they should also pray that Israel stops its evil genocide.
There’s no excuse for the anti semitism.
There’s a lot of women and children who have been killed all across the Middle East by fellow Muslims and there isn’t the same outrage as there is against Israel.
Not defending Israel at all it is shocking what they are doing.
Fri Oct 03, 2025 9:48 pm
pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:Lengee wrote:The attack in Manchester was totally and utterly wrong. One person killed two injured and another mistakenly by the police. Any death whatever nationality are to be condemned. A stupid evil act that spreads fear among the Jewish people in the UK
AND it also gave chance to Israel to claim the GB government were at fault for not supporting his further attacks in Gaza. This is rubbish and the anti semitism is Israels fault for killing innocent people in Gaza!!! …. Over 20,000 kids slaughtered.
Another 70 plus killed in Gaza since dawn today. Over 70% of all deaths are women and children.
When people pray for the 2 killed in the UK they should also pray that Israel stops its evil genocide.
There’s no excuse for the anti semitism.
There’s a lot of women and children who have been killed all across the Middle East by fellow Muslims and there isn’t the same outrage as there is against Israel.
Not defending Israel at all it is shocking what they are doing.
There is no doubt what they are doing in gaza is causing the problems and Israelis do not help by calling everything countries do as antisemitic and support for hamas? I'm Referring to sanctions against Israel for war crimes and genocide! They actually think that they are so holier than thou that none should do or say anything against them.... maybe its because they think they're untouchable with trumps backing? Your right about across the middle east but this is about gaza ? Like said is anyone surprised by what's happened.? Well Jewish people wasn't they've said been expecting it for 2yrs
... and unfortunately can expect similar happenings elsewhere.
Sat Oct 04, 2025 9:13 pm
Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:34 pm
pembroke allan wrote:pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:Lengee wrote:The attack in Manchester was totally and utterly wrong. One person killed two injured and another mistakenly by the police. Any death whatever nationality are to be condemned. A stupid evil act that spreads fear among the Jewish people in the UK
AND it also gave chance to Israel to claim the GB government were at fault for not supporting his further attacks in Gaza. This is rubbish and the anti semitism is Israels fault for killing innocent people in Gaza!!! …. Over 20,000 kids slaughtered.
Another 70 plus killed in Gaza since dawn today. Over 70% of all deaths are women and children.
When people pray for the 2 killed in the UK they should also pray that Israel stops its evil genocide.
There’s no excuse for the anti semitism.
There’s a lot of women and children who have been killed all across the Middle East by fellow Muslims and there isn’t the same outrage as there is against Israel.
Not defending Israel at all it is shocking what they are doing.
There is no doubt what they are doing in gaza is causing the problems and Israelis do not help by calling everything countries do as antisemitic and support for hamas? I'm Referring to sanctions against Israel for war crimes and genocide! They actually think that they are so holier than thou that none should do or say anything against them.... maybe its because they think they're untouchable with trumps backing? Your right about across the middle east but this is about gaza ? Like said is anyone surprised by what's happened.? Well Jewish people wasn't they've said been expecting it for 2yrs
... and unfortunately can expect similar happenings elsewhere.
As if to highlight the point tonight chief rabbi says the pro Palestinian marches are promoting antisemitism and support hamas and he wants gvmnt to intervene to stop them? Sorry people have a right to voice their anger in peaceful marches ... maybe govmnts in Europe and elsewhere should have been stronger in stopping Netanyahu using proper sanctions that hurt Israel not one's that do sfa then maybe we wouldn't have seen yesterday's events..
Sun Oct 05, 2025 9:30 pm
maccydee wrote:pembroke allan wrote:pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:Lengee wrote:The attack in Manchester was totally and utterly wrong. One person killed two injured and another mistakenly by the police. Any death whatever nationality are to be condemned. A stupid evil act that spreads fear among the Jewish people in the UK
AND it also gave chance to Israel to claim the GB government were at fault for not supporting his further attacks in Gaza. This is rubbish and the anti semitism is Israels fault for killing innocent people in Gaza!!! …. Over 20,000 kids slaughtered.
Another 70 plus killed in Gaza since dawn today. Over 70% of all deaths are women and children.
When people pray for the 2 killed in the UK they should also pray that Israel stops its evil genocide.
There’s no excuse for the anti semitism.
There’s a lot of women and children who have been killed all across the Middle East by fellow Muslims and there isn’t the same outrage as there is against Israel.
Not defending Israel at all it is shocking what they are doing.
There is no doubt what they are doing in gaza is causing the problems and Israelis do not help by calling everything countries do as antisemitic and support for hamas? I'm Referring to sanctions against Israel for war crimes and genocide! They actually think that they are so holier than thou that none should do or say anything against them.... maybe its because they think they're untouchable with trumps backing? Your right about across the middle east but this is about gaza ? Like said is anyone surprised by what's happened.? Well Jewish people wasn't they've said been expecting it for 2yrs
... and unfortunately can expect similar happenings elsewhere.
As if to highlight the point tonight chief rabbi says the pro Palestinian marches are promoting antisemitism and support hamas and he wants gvmnt to intervene to stop them? Sorry people have a right to voice their anger in peaceful marches ... maybe govmnts in Europe and elsewhere should have been stronger in stopping Netanyahu using proper sanctions that hurt Israel not one's that do sfa then maybe we wouldn't have seen yesterday's events..
If they were just peaceful marches it would be fine but they aren’t. Plus they are being done in the name of Palestine action who committed a terrorist attack on an RAF base. Ironically attacking two aircraft that would be used in any aid mission to Gaza.
Mon Oct 06, 2025 9:11 am
pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:pembroke allan wrote:pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:Lengee wrote:The attack in Manchester was totally and utterly wrong. One person killed two injured and another mistakenly by the police. Any death whatever nationality are to be condemned. A stupid evil act that spreads fear among the Jewish people in the UK
AND it also gave chance to Israel to claim the GB government were at fault for not supporting his further attacks in Gaza. This is rubbish and the anti semitism is Israels fault for killing innocent people in Gaza!!! …. Over 20,000 kids slaughtered.
Another 70 plus killed in Gaza since dawn today. Over 70% of all deaths are women and children.
When people pray for the 2 killed in the UK they should also pray that Israel stops its evil genocide.
There’s no excuse for the anti semitism.
There’s a lot of women and children who have been killed all across the Middle East by fellow Muslims and there isn’t the same outrage as there is against Israel.
Not defending Israel at all it is shocking what they are doing.
There is no doubt what they are doing in gaza is causing the problems and Israelis do not help by calling everything countries do as antisemitic and support for hamas? I'm Referring to sanctions against Israel for war crimes and genocide! They actually think that they are so holier than thou that none should do or say anything against them.... maybe its because they think they're untouchable with trumps backing? Your right about across the middle east but this is about gaza ? Like said is anyone surprised by what's happened.? Well Jewish people wasn't they've said been expecting it for 2yrs
... and unfortunately can expect similar happenings elsewhere.
As if to highlight the point tonight chief rabbi says the pro Palestinian marches are promoting antisemitism and support hamas and he wants gvmnt to intervene to stop them? Sorry people have a right to voice their anger in peaceful marches ... maybe govmnts in Europe and elsewhere should have been stronger in stopping Netanyahu using proper sanctions that hurt Israel not one's that do sfa then maybe we wouldn't have seen yesterday's events..
If they were just peaceful marches it would be fine but they aren’t. Plus they are being done in the name of Palestine action who committed a terrorist attack on an RAF base. Ironically attacking two aircraft that would be used in any aid mission to Gaza.
The marches are peaceful but unfortunately misguided into thinking damaging things is only way to get action done ( like just stop oil) but it won't work here as starmer as I've said previously is to scared to say Israel is committing genocide and won't ban arms like Spain and others have done... yesterday discovered probably the reason why? His wife is Jewish and he doesn't want to upset her or her family or is it coincidence? .. most of Europe are protesting about genocide in gaza over weekend so guess whole of Europe are antisemitic ... what I find interesting is when people talk of what's happening in Palestine what hamas did is generally also mentioned! But anything said by people supporting israel never mention the deaths of 30k + women and children just the 1200 israel bad as it was lives of women children journalists drs ect are victims of war crimes as well....70% of Israel support the killing of civilians as a just war...no
Wonder they're having trouble all over Europe not just UK.... let's hope this oeace deal can fo something but I seriously doubt it as its very one sided and no one unfortunately trusts Netanyahu .
Mon Oct 06, 2025 11:10 am
Mon Oct 06, 2025 12:00 pm
Lengee wrote:Yes it is a fair point to differentiate Israeli genocide led by the zionistsand all Jews. Many Jews in the UK are supporting pro palestine marches in London. I knew Starmer was married to a Jewish doctor and is bringing the sons up in the Jewish faith. That is entirely up to them, but it makes things difficult for him.
However, racism works both ways.
But Netanyahu blames the synagogue attack on our government not fully supporting what is happening and their being too many Islamic immigrants. Utter rubbish and stoking racism! There were no attacks until his slaughter. His actions triggered it.
Also there have been 2 arson attacks on mosques and that hardly gets a mention. Israel is extremely right wing and,
. Zionists believe they are the chosen race and the land was promised to them by God when speaking to prophets 3000 years ago!!
Unfortunately, we live in a mad and dangerous world…..,
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Mon Oct 06, 2025 3:58 pm
Tue Oct 07, 2025 7:23 am
Lengee wrote:I guess that its just me and I must be getting really old cos to me it seems we live in a mad bad world at present…..
where Trump gets nomlnated for the peace prize by Netanyahu!!!
Where Elon Musk gets nominated for it also by a far right politiciam from Belarus!!!
And even the horrible Daniella Weiss (look her up if you dont know her) gets nominated!!!
Sister Theresa would turn in her grave. And so would the 20,000 innocent Palestinian children slaughtered in Gaza!!!!![]()
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Tue Oct 07, 2025 4:22 pm