" That's a serious reality check "

That was a serious reality check.

Some of us have been getting carried away but today was so poor and shows we have a lot of work to do.

Not going to go big on my criticism of BBM because I think he has credit in the bank.

But that was a tough watch and I'm puzzled as to why Ashford wasn't taken off at half time, he was so poor.

We came to life late on but really it was too late. I'm glad we didn't give up though, that's something.

This game shows us there is still much work to do.

Well done to Bradford, tactically they got it spot on.

A serious reality check for us.

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We weren't at it today yet still created enough chances to get something from the game

I'm not going to panic like I'm sure some will, I've been waiting for a defeat as I want to see what this squad is made of and how they bounce back

Also I'm glad the monkey is off our back, the fact we were unbeaten and hadnt conceded from open play made me feel like we were being hyper focused which just added more pressure on to the team

Totally agree with all this

Isaak Davies have to start next game.

Fair summary. Our defensive display was poor today. Ashford needed to be dropped. Missed a guilt edged chance to make it one nil. But all over the pitch we let ourselves down. Rubin Colwill back to his wasteful best. Good side Bradford but we have to be better than that. Lets see how we respond or is the beginning of a slide down. BBM now let's see what you are. Honeymoon is over.

Despite the result there were some positives.

2 Massive monkeys off our backs.
Conceded from open play
No longer undefeated


Opening goal was worthy of winning game regardless.

Concerned about conceding another penalty!!

All in all though, we all expected a tough game and we got that.

Still long way to go and many of these lads are still learning. They will learn more from these games than beating poorer teams 3/4 -0.

We had chances but were very wasteful in front of goal & the midfield let us down today with some serious wasteful passing from both Rubin & Turnbull, also Ashford was very poor & should have been hooked before half time. We looked better once Kellyman, Davies & Robinson came on and even better when Colwill the younger came on but it was too late by then.

Bradford were very good, deserved the win and their swiftness from back to front was what we needed rather than passing it sideways & backwards most of the time.

No need to panic but let's see if we bounce back next game.

Keeps the players feet on the ground, some poor performances today and defensively, not just the back 4, we were poor.

Created chances and need to keep going with that. A few must be knocking on the door for a starting spot.

It’s a worry coming up against teams that press us. Other teams going forward will be looking how we have performed in recent games and they will employ that tactic that makes us struggle. Port Vale, Wimbledon, Luton, Stockport we got away with. Today we did not. We need to be careful and have a plan B.

I’ve deliberately kept my opions to myself on performances here, mostly as most agree needs 10-15 to get a good gauge of things and partly because my view of things weren’t 100% with the majority and did want to post as some can’t handle opiydifferrnt to theirs on here. Wasn’t great today but I certainly wasn’t surprised by how we played this year. Still very early in the season so let’s see where we are in 6-7 games when the league taken shape.

Battered today by the better team no arguments
I've seen signs after the international break
Stockport outplayed us we were lucky to come away with a point Exeter on Tuesday much changed team agreed but quite a strong team out they could of won it Exeter they had chances but I've said before when we lose and now we have its how we respond the next league game Wigan away will tell us something I'm not counting Cup game against burnley as it depends what team they put out and what team we put out just an opinion

We was smashed in every department today. BBM had no answer to them playing the pressure game or anything Bradford done at all, we was slow and lethargic on the ball even at 3 nil down we are tapping it from one wing corner flag area to the other side over and over yet we had 3 or 4 in the box at times and umpteen chances to cross the b*stard ball but we try do the extra silly pass and lost it I dont know how many times today, it does my twatting tits in.

This is a wake up call when we play teams who pressure us while we think we are man city every game it don't work but it's been coming at some point as I've seen it in a few games when we got lucky, today we didn't even deserve luck as we done nothing to counter what they done on the pitch or the manager watching.

We go again

The better team won today, but I’m seriously concerned about the standard of refereeing this season. No doubt it was a penalty, but the foul on NG was blatant and the referee had no intention of giving it.

Every 50/50 seemed to go their way, and this isn’t the first time. Three penalties conceded and not a single one awarded to us isn’t a coincidence. If this continues, it will cost us points over the season.

As for the game, Bradford did a job on us credit to them. Their first goal came from exploiting our zonal marking with everyone packed in the box. We didn’t react quickly enough, gave their player too much space on the edge, and he punished us with a great finish.

The penalty came from Osho stepping out, then working so hard to recover that he made a rash mistake. Let's not hammer him though, he’ll be a big player for us this season.

Ashford looks like he needs a rest, and we’ve got to toughen up against the little physical niggles. At times today, we were bullied, and that has to change.

Wintle looks like a Rolls Royce against some, but is seriously out of his depth when pressed. I had my concerns over him into this season, where he rightly shut me up with some performances.

Chambers infront of the back 4 for me, not Wintle.

This defeat was needed.

As far as penalties are concerned I think we're the Millwall (for referees!) of the 1st Division ... NO ONE LIKES US AND WE DON'T CARE!
We probably should have been awarded as many as have been awarded against us. But clearly we haven't and that in itself tells a story
Onwards and upwards!

Salech has had zero protection from any referee so far this season & has been pushed & pulled all over the place by defenders. Does he go down too easily or is it something else?

Don't think Rubin had a good game today, Bradford did what they had too and took their chances. We had our chances too I think it's a good learning game for the squad defiinately.

Salech has had zero protection from any referee so far this season & has been pushed & pulled all over the place by defenders. Does he go down too easily or is it something else?

Yeah but you got to fight like they do also for the ball how today he got nulled by there center halfs. Although unless he's got players running towards him it's no good him flicking it on as we play this one up top every game for some reason so rarely runners beyond him.

Outcoached, as simply as that. Bradford knew what we were going to do before we did. We are one-dimensional and predictable; it's been good enough until we met a good team.

The wingers or lack of them will be our undoing against evenly matched teams. We have a team of "10"'s by the look of it.

The refs are erratic but not biased; it was a pen all day long.

I wait to hear the comments from BBM, but his subs were bizarre unless injuries were the reason.

We probably won the triangles and possession battle, and that's the important stat for the modern Pep brigade.

We are so open on the turnovers because our non wingers hug the lines

Turnbull was a disaster in my eyes, always backward (possession for possesion's sake) or gave it away. Salech is so isolated that he may as well not be there.

Good reality check though, its a long season.

It makes me laugh when I read crap like "the pep bridgade" used as a negative.

We have a manager who's learned from arguably one of the most forward thinking managers of all time.

It's not a negative. Pick something else to moan about.

We were playing 2nd in the league. We played much better than last week it just wasn't out day. Ashford shouldn't have started and I've been saying that for weeks. We created a load of chances but couldn't finish or Bradford got lucky. I enjoyed the game especially Isaac Davies great bit of skill on the byline.

It makes me laugh when I read crap like "the pep bridgade" used as a negative.

We have a manager who's learned from arguably one of the most forward thinking managers of all time.

It's not a negative. Pick something else to moan about.

Completely agree. We weren't smashed etc etc. Bradford deserved to win, we didn't play well. But we created plenty in that game. If Ashford takes that great chance after 15 minutes we are one nil up and its a different game. One defeat all season. Let's see how the team react now.

Nothing to be negative about, we didn't look terrible, created lots of chances, it just didn't happen for us today. That wasn't a good performance from us it will be good enough to beat 9/10 teams at this level

The pen tackle was a disgrace typical of someone who doesn't give a f**k for the club ££ only it
Changed the game.
The right side kpakio and that lazy little boy Ashford out of his dept.
Apart from that 50/50 game.

The pen tackle was a disgrace typical of someone who doesn't give a f**k for the club ££ only it
Changed the game.
The right side kpakio and that lazy little boy Ashford out of his dept.
Apart from that 50/50 game.

That's a little OOT, the guy was busting a gut to make up for the original mistake when he should have just let it run out of play. It wasn't a great tackle & no complaints about it but saying a player in his first league game for us is only here for the money is ridiculous.

It makes me laugh when I read crap like "the pep bridgade" used as a negative.

We have a manager who's learned from arguably one of the most forward thinking managers of all time.

It's not a negative. Pick something else to moan about.

Pep is a genius. The record says that. Maybe he is unique, like Fergie or Shankley. Maybe it's impossible to imitate him.

I have spent a week in Glasgow with loads of Rangers fans; one of his disciples is making a right mess of it. There are many ways to play the game, and our manager whom i am 100% behind, is a disciple. So i will expect the same type of Pep post-match comments.

I am not a particular fan of watching Man City, i said on another thread, i like wingers/wide forwards with pace taking on defenders and running straight for goal, I preferred Kopps Liverpool.

We were playing 2nd in the league. We played much better than last week it just wasn't our day. Ashford shouldn't have started and I've been saying that for weeks. We created a load of chances but couldn't finish or Bradford got lucky. I enjoyed the game especially Isaac Davies great bit of skill on the byline.

The pen tackle was a disgrace typical of someone who doesn't give a f**k for the club ££ only it
Changed the game.
The right side kpakio and that lazy little boy Ashford out of his depth.
Apart from that 50/50 game.

Seems your pre-match prediction was correct, Ned, and we lost to a more ‘savvy’ side today

I don’t think many (but there were some) expected us to run away with this League, but the signs are still there that we have a team that will compete at the top end of the table

Hopefully, today was a blip, BBM will have learned a bit about the players at his disposal, and we move on as a unit (supporters included)

Cian Ashford needs to be taken out of the firing line for a few games, and we missed Dylan Lawlor, but Callum Robinson was a breath of fresh air when he came on and we need to utilise him more. I think him and the hardworking Salech will cause more problems than those on show(until the substitutions) did today

Disappointing day, but not writing us off either!

The pen tackle was a disgrace typical of someone who doesn't give a f**k for the club ££ only it
Changed the game.
The right side kpakio and that lazy little boy Ashford out of his dept.
Apart from that 50/50 game.

That's a little OOT, the guy was busting a gut to make up for the original mistake when he should have just let it run out of play. It wasn't a great tackle & no complaints about it but saying a player in his first league game for us is only here for the money is ridiculous.

A stupid comment from ‘Tailgunner’ to be honest!

Osho did okay otherwise, but he should never have been in that position, had the officials done their jobs moments before!