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Re: OT: TRUMP ORDERS STRIKE ON IRAN NUCLEAR SITES

Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:57 pm

wez1927 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:My way of looking at this is Trump is trying to get a reaction out of Iran and it’s not going to happen. This will wxpose the all mouth no reaction that the Arab countries have shown over the decades.

This Arab pact is nothing without Saudi Arabia support. There is no love lost between Saudi and Iran and there is no war between Saudi and Isreal.

I now see a decline in tensions unless Putin steps in.


Agree. No country in the Middle East wants Iran to have a nuclear weapon. No country in the world should want that either.

Agree



Do they want Israeli nukes on their doorstep because they have... but like all things Israeli they stick 2 fingers up at nuclear authority so no inspection no accountability. No monitoring..... yet why did Israel attack Iran? Because they said iran was building nukes when nuclear monitoring organisation says it wasn't usa said wasn't... but good old trump undid all the monitoring last time in office he trashed the agreement Iran had with the authorities so now he rolled over and let Netanyahu tickle his tummy and help him blow up buildings with uranium not in them so bomb threat is still there....... why is there one rule for Israel and another for rest of world I'd like to know?

Re: OT: TRUMP ORDERS STRIKE ON IRAN NUCLEAR SITES

Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:17 pm

Anyone who believes Iran doesn’t want nukes really is naive or stupid.

Re: OT: TRUMP ORDERS STRIKE ON IRAN NUCLEAR SITES

Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:19 pm

M4 Exile wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Jock wrote:Biden was up to his armpits with the American Military Industrial Complex and they love a war, looks like Trump is no different.
That said I don’t want Iran getting the bomb.


All Biden did was give up ground back to the enemy aka Afghan back to the Taleban. I doubt that would have happened under Trump.

I think time will tell if Biden was right or not. I certainly don’t think there will be a takeover now.


The Afghanistan withdrawal was all trump lol. Biden just didn’t pull out of Trump’s deal and was left with his mess

Biden didn’t know what day it was, he wasn’t making any decisions.

Re: OT: TRUMP ORDERS STRIKE ON IRAN NUCLEAR SITES

Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:44 pm

Jock wrote:Anyone who believes Iran doesn’t want nukes really is naive or stupid.



They want nukes undoubtedly but they didn't have enriched uranium of higher grade so Isreal broke international law for umpteenth time....illegal to attack someone on basis of they might have some one day... both usa and Isreal don't give a flying fck about international law and that's the problem.. all Israel got to do now is find the uranium that they didn't
Destroy....

Re: OT: TRUMP ORDERS STRIKE ON IRAN NUCLEAR SITES

Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:02 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Jock wrote:Anyone who believes Iran doesn’t want nukes really is naive or stupid.



They want nukes undoubtedly but they didn't have enriched uranium of higher grade so Isreal broke international law for umpteenth time....illegal to attack someone on basis of they might have some one day... both usa and Isreal don't give a flying fck about international law and that's the problem.. all Israel got to do now is find the uranium that they didn't
Destroy....


I disagree with what Israel are doing to the people in Gaza. I disagree with a lot of Trump's policies, I see politics in a very different way to him.

But I'm sorry Allan, I don't disagree with the move to stop Iran obtaining nuclear weapons.

It is a fact that Iran want to attack countries like us. The amount of attacks from them that we have thwarted is huge.

It is possible to say that Israel are completely wrong about what they're doing to people in Gaza, but also that they're right about Iran.

Re: OT: TRUMP ORDERS STRIKE ON IRAN NUCLEAR SITES

Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:13 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Jock wrote:Anyone who believes Iran doesn’t want nukes really is naive or stupid.



They want nukes undoubtedly but they didn't have enriched uranium of higher grade so Isreal broke international law for umpteenth time....illegal to attack someone on basis of they might have some one day... both usa and Isreal don't give a flying fck about international law and that's the problem.. all Israel got to do now is find the uranium that they didn't
Destroy....


I disagree with what Israel are doing to the people in Gaza. I disagree with a lot of Trump's policies, I see politics in a very different way to him.

But I'm sorry Allan, I don't disagree with the move to stop Iran obtaining nuclear weapons.

It is a fact that Iran want to attack countries like us. The amount of attacks from them that we have thwarted is huge.

It is possible to say that Israel are completely wrong about what they're doing to people in Gaza, but also that they're right about Iran.



You do realise by saying they're right to bomb Iran that means any country that thinks they're going to be attacked can launch pre- emptive attack like Israel did? No Iran shouldn't have nukes neither should Israel who like Iran are hiding there's .... anyway it was for nothing as Iran can still make a bomb one day as uranium not destroyed. If we didn't bend over backwards to pacify Israel perhaps we wouldn't be a target? Israel not concerned about uk or anyone else for that matter they only think of themselves and what they can get out of uk EU and usa ....EU are the biggest contribution to Israel economy in fact its quite staggering how much Israel gets from eu but EU refuse to use it in sanctions against them why? Because use it and the genocide in gaza will soon stop...I've asked the question many times what does Israel have to do to be held accountable ... their ambassador to uk says we are not in gaza to kill anyone we never target civilians out attacks comply to international law We are not interested in wars! I call that total denial of their actions

Re: OT: TRUMP ORDERS STRIKE ON IRAN NUCLEAR SITES

Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:25 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Jock wrote:Anyone who believes Iran doesn’t want nukes really is naive or stupid.



They want nukes undoubtedly but they didn't have enriched uranium of higher grade so Isreal broke international law for umpteenth time....illegal to attack someone on basis of they might have some one day... both usa and Isreal don't give a flying fck about international law and that's the problem.. all Israel got to do now is find the uranium that they didn't
Destroy....


I disagree with what Israel are doing to the people in Gaza. I disagree with a lot of Trump's policies, I see politics in a very different way to him.

But I'm sorry Allan, I don't disagree with the move to stop Iran obtaining nuclear weapons.

It is a fact that Iran want to attack countries like us. The amount of attacks from them that we have thwarted is huge.

It is possible to say that Israel are completely wrong about what they're doing to people in Gaza, but also that they're right about Iran.



You do realise by saying they're right to bomb Iran that means any country that thinks they're going to be attacked can launch pre- emptive attack like Israel did? No Iran shouldn't have nukes neither should Israel who like Iran are hiding there's .... anyway it was for nothing as Iran can still make a bomb one day as uranium not destroyed. If we didn't bend over backwards to pacify Israel perhaps we wouldn't be a target? Israel not concerned about uk or anyone else for that matter they only think of themselves and what they can get out of uk EU and usa ....EU are the biggest contribution to Israel economy in fact its quite staggering how much Israel gets from eu but EU refuse to use it in sanctions against them why? Because use it and the genocide in gaza will soon stop...I've asked the question many times what does Israel have to do to be held accountable ... their ambassador to uk says we are not in gaza to kill anyone we never target civilians out attacks comply to international law We are not interested in wars! I call that total denial of their actions


Alan make you mind up.
One post you saying the didn’t have uranium. And now in this one you saying they didn’t destroy their uranium.
Which one is it?

Re: OT: TRUMP ORDERS STRIKE ON IRAN NUCLEAR SITES

Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:31 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Jock wrote:Anyone who believes Iran doesn’t want nukes really is naive or stupid.



They want nukes undoubtedly but they didn't have enriched uranium of higher grade so Isreal broke international law for umpteenth time....illegal to attack someone on basis of they might have some one day... both usa and Isreal don't give a flying fck about international law and that's the problem.. all Israel got to do now is find the uranium that they didn't
Destroy....

Surely better to stop them getting enriched uranium.

Re: OT: TRUMP ORDERS STRIKE ON IRAN NUCLEAR SITES

Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:57 pm

Jock wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Jock wrote:Anyone who believes Iran doesn’t want nukes really is naive or stupid.



They want nukes undoubtedly but they didn't have enriched uranium of higher grade so Isreal broke international law for umpteenth time....illegal to attack someone on basis of they might have some one day... both usa and Isreal don't give a flying fck about international law and that's the problem.. all Israel got to do now is find the uranium that they didn't
Destroy....

Surely better to stop them getting enriched uranium.



Well they've got 60% enriched so it's been said only 30% to go.. but like said it was taken away so the threat isn't gone ...is Israel going to do same to Iran as gaza raise it to the ground bombing iran looking for it probably as they're immune from prosecution in the courts and UN and they know it..
Maybe if they hadn't wanted to destroy Palestine many years ago and steal their land we wouldn't be in this situation now...anyway looks as if more action is coming from Qatar and Iraq so guess you reap what you sow

Re: OT: TRUMP ORDERS STRIKE ON IRAN NUCLEAR SITES

Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:24 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Jock wrote:Anyone who believes Iran doesn’t want nukes really is naive or stupid.



They want nukes undoubtedly but they didn't have enriched uranium of higher grade so Isreal broke international law for umpteenth time....illegal to attack someone on basis of they might have some one day... both usa and Isreal don't give a flying fck about international law and that's the problem.. all Israel got to do now is find the uranium that they didn't
Destroy....


I disagree with what Israel are doing to the people in Gaza. I disagree with a lot of Trump's policies, I see politics in a very different way to him.

But I'm sorry Allan, I don't disagree with the move to stop Iran obtaining nuclear weapons.

It is a fact that Iran want to attack countries like us. The amount of attacks from them that we have thwarted is huge.

It is possible to say that Israel are completely wrong about what they're doing to people in Gaza, but also that they're right about Iran.



You do realise by saying they're right to bomb Iran that means any country that thinks they're going to be attacked can launch pre- emptive attack like Israel did? No Iran shouldn't have nukes neither should Israel who like Iran are hiding there's .... anyway it was for nothing as Iran can still make a bomb one day as uranium not destroyed. If we didn't bend over backwards to pacify Israel perhaps we wouldn't be a target? Israel not concerned about uk or anyone else for that matter they only think of themselves and what they can get out of uk EU and usa ....EU are the biggest contribution to Israel economy in fact its quite staggering how much Israel gets from eu but EU refuse to use it in sanctions against them why? Because use it and the genocide in gaza will soon stop...I've asked the question many times what does Israel have to do to be held accountable ... their ambassador to uk says we are not in gaza to kill anyone we never target civilians out attacks comply to international law We are not interested in wars! I call that total denial of their actions


I think your hatred of Israel is blinding you of the fact that Iran are a serious and credible threat to our way of life.

Re: OT: TRUMP ORDERS STRIKE ON IRAN NUCLEAR SITES

Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:30 pm

Hands up those who want to wait until Iran nukes some country first before stopping them.

Re: OT: TRUMP ORDERS STRIKE ON IRAN NUCLEAR SITES

Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:15 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Jock wrote:Anyone who believes Iran doesn’t want nukes really is naive or stupid.



They want nukes undoubtedly but they didn't have enriched uranium of higher grade so Isreal broke international law for umpteenth time....illegal to attack someone on basis of they might have some one day... both usa and Isreal don't give a flying fck about international law and that's the problem.. all Israel got to do now is find the uranium that they didn't
Destroy....


I disagree with what Israel are doing to the people in Gaza. I disagree with a lot of Trump's policies, I see politics in a very different way to him.

But I'm sorry Allan, I don't disagree with the move to stop Iran obtaining nuclear weapons.

It is a fact that Iran want to attack countries like us. The amount of attacks from them that we have thwarted is huge.

It is possible to say that Israel are completely wrong about what they're doing to people in Gaza, but also that they're right about Iran.



You do realise by saying they're right to bomb Iran that means any country that thinks they're going to be attacked can launch pre- emptive attack like Israel did? No Iran shouldn't have nukes neither should Israel who like Iran are hiding there's .... anyway it was for nothing as Iran can still make a bomb one day as uranium not destroyed. If we didn't bend over backwards to pacify Israel perhaps we wouldn't be a target? Israel not concerned about uk or anyone else for that matter they only think of themselves and what they can get out of uk EU and usa ....EU are the biggest contribution to Israel economy in fact its quite staggering how much Israel gets from eu but EU refuse to use it in sanctions against them why? Because use it and the genocide in gaza will soon stop...I've asked the question many times what does Israel have to do to be held accountable ... their ambassador to uk says we are not in gaza to kill anyone we never target civilians out attacks comply to international law We are not interested in wars! I call that total denial of their actions


I think your hatred of Israel is blinding you of the fact that Iran are a serious and credible threat to our way of life.



No I know it is a threat.... I had long chat recently with nice Iranian couple on holiday they're hoping for change but scared of who may take over.... my beef about Israel is they're doing illegal actions without consequences just leaving others tp clean ghrir mess up ...iraq Qatar in firing line because of Israel actions.....but uk EU ect are doing fck all to stop them when they can ..Iran is a terrorist state and needs to be controlled but there are legal ways to do it and was being done until trump put big mouth in last time in office.. you simply cannot just bomb the life out of a country simply because you can..

Re: OT: TRUMP ORDERS STRIKE ON IRAN NUCLEAR SITES

Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:45 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Jock wrote:Anyone who believes Iran doesn’t want nukes really is naive or stupid.



They want nukes undoubtedly but they didn't have enriched uranium of higher grade so Isreal broke international law for umpteenth time....illegal to attack someone on basis of they might have some one day... both usa and Isreal don't give a flying fck about international law and that's the problem.. all Israel got to do now is find the uranium that they didn't
Destroy....


I disagree with what Israel are doing to the people in Gaza. I disagree with a lot of Trump's policies, I see politics in a very different way to him.

But I'm sorry Allan, I don't disagree with the move to stop Iran obtaining nuclear weapons.

It is a fact that Iran want to attack countries like us. The amount of attacks from them that we have thwarted is huge.

It is possible to say that Israel are completely wrong about what they're doing to people in Gaza, but also that they're right about Iran.



You do realise by saying they're right to bomb Iran that means any country that thinks they're going to be attacked can launch pre- emptive attack like Israel did? No Iran shouldn't have nukes neither should Israel who like Iran are hiding there's .... anyway it was for nothing as Iran can still make a bomb one day as uranium not destroyed. If we didn't bend over backwards to pacify Israel perhaps we wouldn't be a target? Israel not concerned about uk or anyone else for that matter they only think of themselves and what they can get out of uk EU and usa ....EU are the biggest contribution to Israel economy in fact its quite staggering how much Israel gets from eu but EU refuse to use it in sanctions against them why? Because use it and the genocide in gaza will soon stop...I've asked the question many times what does Israel have to do to be held accountable ... their ambassador to uk says we are not in gaza to kill anyone we never target civilians out attacks comply to international law We are not interested in wars! I call that total denial of their actions


I think your hatred of Israel is blinding you of the fact that Iran are a serious and credible threat to our way of life.


Well said Worcester well said.

Re: OT: TRUMP ORDERS STRIKE ON IRAN NUCLEAR SITES

Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:41 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:My way of looking at this is Trump is trying to get a reaction out of Iran and it’s not going to happen. This will wxpose the all mouth no reaction that the Arab countries have shown over the decades.

This Arab pact is nothing without Saudi Arabia support. There is no love lost between Saudi and Iran and there is no war between Saudi and Isreal.

I now see a decline in tensions unless Putin steps in.


Agree. No country in the Middle East wants Iran to have a nuclear weapon. No country in the world should want that either.

Agree



Do they want Israeli nukes on their doorstep because they have... but like all things Israeli they stick 2 fingers up at nuclear authority so no inspection no accountability. No monitoring..... yet why did Israel attack Iran? Because they said iran was building nukes when nuclear monitoring organisation says it wasn't usa said wasn't... but good old trump undid all the monitoring last time in office he trashed the agreement Iran had with the authorities so now he rolled over and let Netanyahu tickle his tummy and help him blow up buildings with uranium not in them so bomb threat is still there....... why is there one rule for Israel and another for rest of world I'd like to know?

The difference is isreal arnt threatening to use there Nukes but Iran have said they would wipe isreal off this earth ,im not a lover of either of them tbh but Iran not the people but there leaders are completely mad .

Re: OT: TRUMP ORDERS STRIKE ON IRAN NUCLEAR SITES

Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:51 pm

Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Jock wrote:Anyone who believes Iran doesn’t want nukes really is naive or stupid.



They want nukes undoubtedly but they didn't have enriched uranium of higher grade so Isreal broke international law for umpteenth time....illegal to attack someone on basis of they might have some one day... both usa and Isreal don't give a flying fck about international law and that's the problem.. all Israel got to do now is find the uranium that they didn't
Destroy....


I disagree with what Israel are doing to the people in Gaza. I disagree with a lot of Trump's policies, I see politics in a very different way to him.

But I'm sorry Allan, I don't disagree with the move to stop Iran obtaining nuclear weapons.

It is a fact that Iran want to attack countries like us. The amount of attacks from them that we have thwarted is huge.

It is possible to say that Israel are completely wrong about what they're doing to people in Gaza, but also that they're right about Iran.



You do realise by saying they're right to bomb Iran that means any country that thinks they're going to be attacked can launch pre- emptive attack like Israel did? No Iran shouldn't have nukes neither should Israel who like Iran are hiding there's .... anyway it was for nothing as Iran can still make a bomb one day as uranium not destroyed. If we didn't bend over backwards to pacify Israel perhaps we wouldn't be a target? Israel not concerned about uk or anyone else for that matter they only think of themselves and what they can get out of uk EU and usa ....EU are the biggest contribution to Israel economy in fact its quite staggering how much Israel gets from eu but EU refuse to use it in sanctions against them why? Because use it and the genocide in gaza will soon stop...I've asked the question many times what does Israel have to do to be held accountable ... their ambassador to uk says we are not in gaza to kill anyone we never target civilians out attacks comply to international law We are not interested in wars! I call that total denial of their actions


I think your hatred of Israel is blinding you of the fact that Iran are a serious and credible threat to our way of life.


Well said Worcester well said.



Not blinded just saying what are facts ... they are a consequential threat to everyone but it still doesn't mean you ignore the truth like my last paragraph on kids.
Got nothing but contempt for Israel for their blatant disregard for life and rule of law. Iran Been threatening to destroy Israel for 50yrs and it hasn't happened yet nor will it.

Re: OT: TRUMP ORDERS STRIKE ON IRAN NUCLEAR SITES

Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:54 pm

wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:My way of looking at this is Trump is trying to get a reaction out of Iran and it’s not going to happen. This will wxpose the all mouth no reaction that the Arab countries have shown over the decades.

This Arab pact is nothing without Saudi Arabia support. There is no love lost between Saudi and Iran and there is no war between Saudi and Isreal.

I now see a decline in tensions unless Putin steps in.


Agree. No country in the Middle East wants Iran to have a nuclear weapon. No country in the world should want that either.

Agree



Do they want Israeli nukes on their doorstep because they have... but like all things Israeli they stick 2 fingers up at nuclear authority so no inspection no accountability. No monitoring..... yet why did Israel attack Iran? Because they said iran was building nukes when nuclear monitoring organisation says it wasn't usa said wasn't... but good old trump undid all the monitoring last time in office he trashed the agreement Iran had with the authorities so now he rolled over and let Netanyahu tickle his tummy and help him blow up buildings with uranium not in them so bomb threat is still there....... why is there one rule for Israel and another for rest of world I'd like to know?

The difference is isreal arnt threatening to use there Nukes but Iran have said they would wipe isreal off this earth ,im not a lover of either of them tbh but Iran not the people but there leaders are completely mad .



Yes quite mad that's why been threatening for 50yrs to destroy Israel ...its not happening .

Re: OT: TRUMP ORDERS STRIKE ON IRAN NUCLEAR SITES

Mon Jun 23, 2025 9:27 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:My way of looking at this is Trump is trying to get a reaction out of Iran and it’s not going to happen. This will wxpose the all mouth no reaction that the Arab countries have shown over the decades.

This Arab pact is nothing without Saudi Arabia support. There is no love lost between Saudi and Iran and there is no war between Saudi and Isreal.

I now see a decline in tensions unless Putin steps in.


Agree. No country in the Middle East wants Iran to have a nuclear weapon. No country in the world should want that either.

Agree



Do they want Israeli nukes on their doorstep because they have... but like all things Israeli they stick 2 fingers up at nuclear authority so no inspection no accountability. No monitoring..... yet why did Israel attack Iran? Because they said iran was building nukes when nuclear monitoring organisation says it wasn't usa said wasn't... but good old trump undid all the monitoring last time in office he trashed the agreement Iran had with the authorities so now he rolled over and let Netanyahu tickle his tummy and help him blow up buildings with uranium not in them so bomb threat is still there....... why is there one rule for Israel and another for rest of world I'd like to know?

The difference is isreal arnt threatening to use there Nukes but Iran have said they would wipe isreal off this earth ,im not a lover of either of them tbh but Iran not the people but there leaders are completely mad .



Yes quite mad that's why been threatening for 50yrs to destroy Israel ...its not happening .


Why do you only hate Israel and not other countries that behave the same?
Couldn’t find any past posts only had a Quick Look though.
Just wondering what your angle is.

Re: OT: TRUMP ORDERS STRIKE ON IRAN NUCLEAR SITES

Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:15 am

Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:My way of looking at this is Trump is trying to get a reaction out of Iran and it’s not going to happen. This will wxpose the all mouth no reaction that the Arab countries have shown over the decades.

This Arab pact is nothing without Saudi Arabia support. There is no love lost between Saudi and Iran and there is no war between Saudi and Isreal.

I now see a decline in tensions unless Putin steps in.


Agree. No country in the Middle East wants Iran to have a nuclear weapon. No country in the world should want that either.

Agree



Do they want Israeli nukes on their doorstep because they have... but like all things Israeli they stick 2 fingers up at nuclear authority so no inspection no accountability. No monitoring..... yet why did Israel attack Iran? Because they said iran was building nukes when nuclear monitoring organisation says it wasn't usa said wasn't... but good old trump undid all the monitoring last time in office he trashed the agreement Iran had with the authorities so now he rolled over and let Netanyahu tickle his tummy and help him blow up buildings with uranium not in them so bomb threat is still there....... why is there one rule for Israel and another for rest of world I'd like to know?

The difference is isreal arnt threatening to use there Nukes but Iran have said they would wipe isreal off this earth ,im not a lover of either of them tbh but Iran not the people but there leaders are completely mad .



Yes quite mad that's why been threatening for 50yrs to destroy Israel ...its not happening .


Why do you only hate Israel and not other countries that behave the same?
Couldn’t find any past posts only had a Quick Look though.
Just wondering what your angle is.

Contrast the reactions and mass protests over Israel bombing Gaza, with the deafening silence while Saudi and Iran slaughtered thousands of children , during their proxi war in Yemen.

Re: OT: TRUMP ORDERS STRIKE ON IRAN NUCLEAR SITES

Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:53 am

Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:My way of looking at this is Trump is trying to get a reaction out of Iran and it’s not going to happen. This will wxpose the all mouth no reaction that the Arab countries have shown over the decades.

This Arab pact is nothing without Saudi Arabia support. There is no love lost between Saudi and Iran and there is no war between Saudi and Isreal.

I now see a decline in tensions unless Putin steps in.


Agree. No country in the Middle East wants Iran to have a nuclear weapon. No country in the world should want that either.

Agree



Do they want Israeli nukes on their doorstep because they have... but like all things Israeli they stick 2 fingers up at nuclear authority so no inspection no accountability. No monitoring..... yet why did Israel attack Iran? Because they said iran was building nukes when nuclear monitoring organisation says it wasn't usa said wasn't... but good old trump undid all the monitoring last time in office he trashed the agreement Iran had with the authorities so now he rolled over and let Netanyahu tickle his tummy and help him blow up buildings with uranium not in them so bomb threat is still there....... why is there one rule for Israel and another for rest of world I'd like to know?

The difference is isreal arnt threatening to use there Nukes but Iran have said they would wipe isreal off this earth ,im not a lover of either of them tbh but Iran not the people but there leaders are completely mad .



Yes quite mad that's why been threatening for 50yrs to destroy Israel ...its not happening .


Why do you only hate Israel and not other countries that behave the same?
Couldn’t find any past posts only had a Quick Look though.
Just wondering what your angle is.


Yes, it’s interesting that the 000’s of killings and religious ethnic cleansing in Syria, Lebanon etc each year go unnoticed, unprotested and unaccountable. Be nice if every conflict/war was viewed equally.

Re: OT: TRUMP ORDERS STRIKE ON IRAN NUCLEAR SITES

Tue Jun 24, 2025 3:20 pm

Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:My way of looking at this is Trump is trying to get a reaction out of Iran and it’s not going to happen. This will wxpose the all mouth no reaction that the Arab countries have shown over the decades.

This Arab pact is nothing without Saudi Arabia support. There is no love lost between Saudi and Iran and there is no war between Saudi and Isreal.

I now see a decline in tensions unless Putin steps in.


Agree. No country in the Middle East wants Iran to have a nuclear weapon. No country in the world should want that either.

Agree



Do they want Israeli nukes on their doorstep because they have... but like all things Israeli they stick 2 fingers up at nuclear authority so no inspection no accountability. No monitoring..... yet why did Israel attack Iran? Because they said iran was building nukes when nuclear monitoring organisation says it wasn't usa said wasn't... but good old trump undid all the monitoring last time in office he trashed the agreement Iran had with the authorities so now he rolled over and let Netanyahu tickle his tummy and help him blow up buildings with uranium not in them so bomb threat is still there....... why is there one rule for Israel and another for rest of world I'd like to know?

The difference is isreal arnt threatening to use there Nukes but Iran have said they would wipe isreal off this earth ,im not a lover of either of them tbh but Iran not the people but there leaders are completely mad .



Yes quite mad that's why been threatening for 50yrs to destroy Israel ...its not happening .


Why do you only hate Israel and not other countries that behave the same?
Couldn’t find any past posts only had a Quick Look though.
Just wondering what your angle is.



No angle there's been genocide mass displacement of people who remembers iddi amin I do! Wars in Rwanda you hear of mass murder and attrocities ect ect but are not thrust into public domain as gaza is... in gaza you've hot UK usa and other doctors telling you what's happening in real time.... but what astounds me is the apathy by leaders to what's happening Israel got right to defend themselves well been defending themselves for 60+yrs...
Guess you think that entitles them to murder children 180 in cold blood... 15 medics or 9 children of a Doctor all proven facts just a couple of incidents.... un ambassador said other day we do not attack civilians or kill children hamas as killed them all What does that tel you? Haven't even mentioned starvation or forcible removal......

Ps nazis murdered & Starved Jews flattened their homes in Warsaw getto put in concentration camps.... ended up killing 6m.....

IDF.... starving Palestinians
Holding them in an open prison (gaza)
Flattened their homes
End up keeping them in small area like concentration camp
And at rate going end up killing 2m way outside world is behaving...
Nazi had final solution and were the superior race
IDF removal of Palestinians from gaza final solution
Knesset spokesman we bow to no one they bow to us? Meaning they're superior(Superior race?)
That is my angle....
Anyway that's it from me subject closed

Re: OT: TRUMP ORDERS STRIKE ON IRAN NUCLEAR SITES

Tue Jun 24, 2025 3:36 pm

Why do you think I think they entitled to kill children. I’m opposed to all wars mate not selected ones.
The reason I ask you is you come across as trying to push antisemitism on people. Cardiff fans are a lot of things but racist is not one of them.

Re: OT: TRUMP ORDERS STRIKE ON IRAN NUCLEAR SITES

Tue Jun 24, 2025 3:50 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Jonesy-valleyboy27 wrote:Hopefully under trump they carry it through and complete what ever they plan is and don’t leave it half done and even worse than it is now. That regime really needs to be removed I do T there be to many tears shed.


Remove regime and then what? nice leader who forgives Israel usa for blowing up their country? Look who's taken over Afghanistan after usa left it ......its far worse than previous regime let's hope its not a hardline mullah otherwise things won't change .... Israel still be laughing at everyone As know Netanyahu's poodle in use "trump" will keep terrorists at bay ..


Like I said that they complete they plan what ever it may be. In no Middle East expert I like the rest 99% only know what we are spoon fed by the media. All I know is a lot of Iranians citizens really do admire the freedoms of the west especially America I would love Iran to be more like them.
The few Iranian s I have known will be happy the US are now involved. They know more than me.
For me I believe it’s the right thing to do , but at the same time if they stopped bombing that also wouldn’t disappoint me.



Yes all Arab nations love the western way until it interferes with their customs and way of life...
Iran shouldn't have nukes but it was trump who trashed the agreement that was working upto last time in office. .... no middle east involvement while I'm in office said trump as part of his election pledge? One common theme in Ukraine and gaza its trumps ability to encourage putin and Netanyahu to Carry on their attacks He's done sfa to stop them in fact he's positively encourage both to increase their destruction of both countries ... to Ukraine says give up your land....and in gaza let's build a holiday resort after we've sent 2m people to Africa like said He's an apology of a human being.


What you view on today’s news Allan?
Trump has instructed Israel to stop bombing and turn back. You said trump was Israel’s lapdog. Israel listen to trump you said they listen to no one.
Also trump has brought an end to the bombing for the time being, which is what you want but said trump won’t do.
Is he still an apology of a human being doing to Israel what you said can’t be done?

Serious question I am genuinely interested.

Re: OT: TRUMP ORDERS STRIKE ON IRAN NUCLEAR SITES

Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:45 pm

Reading a few messages querying Alans hatred of Israel. It is hard to understand I guess……

BUT if, like me, you have 3 grandkids that you see daily growing up near you in Wales. You appreciate how fortunate you are that we dont live in Gaza which is illegally occupied by Israel, and which has had their land stolen by Israel for the last 80 years.
Therefore, we are not seeing our kids bombed, burnt alive, having limbs blow off etc. And now being deliberately starved, or shot while queuing for far too little food. And fair play every time there is a query about their horrendous war crimes Israel promise to look into it!!
Yes its true that over 70% of murders being committed by Israel are women and children. Its not 100 not 1000 not 10000 but over 20000 innocent kids slaughtered. While the international media are barred from Gaza.
At present, while the world attention is on Iran, Israel continue to starve the population of Gaza, a mere 50 more killed today while queuing for food.
Come on Alan why the hell do you have a hatred of Israel????

Re: OT: TRUMP ORDERS STRIKE ON IRAN NUCLEAR SITES

Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:54 pm

Lengee wrote:Reading a few messages querying Alans hatred of Israel. It is hard to understand I guess……

BUT if, like me, you have 3 grandkids that you see daily growing up near you in Wales. You appreciate how fortunate you are that we dont live in Gaza which is illegally occupied by Israel, and which has had their land stolen by Israel for the last 80 years.
Therefore, we are not seeing our kids bombed, burnt alive, having limbs blow off etc. And now being deliberately starved, or shot while queuing for far too little food. And fair play every time there is a query about their horrendous war crimes Israel promise to look into it!!
Yes its true that over 70% of murders being committed by Israel are women and children. Its not 100 not 1000 not 10000 but over 20000 innocent kids slaughtered. While the international media are barred from Gaza.
At present, while the world attention is on Iran, Israel continue to starve the population of Gaza, a mere 50 more killed today while queuing for food.
Come on Alan why the hell do you have a hatred of Israel????


Speaking for myself, I said clearly that I hate what Israel are doing in Gaza and have said it many times.

But that doesn't make them wrong about Iran - in fact they are 100% correct.

And you would have a much more serious reason to worry about your family, as we all would, if Iran got their hands on nuclear weapons.

It is possible for Israel to be both right and wrong at the same time.

Re: OT: TRUMP ORDERS STRIKE ON IRAN NUCLEAR SITES

Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:00 pm

Lengee wrote:Reading a few messages querying Alans hatred of Israel. It is hard to understand I guess……

BUT if, like me, you have 3 grandkids that you see daily growing up near you in Wales. You appreciate how fortunate you are that we dont live in Gaza which is illegally occupied by Israel, and which has had their land stolen by Israel for the last 80 years.
Therefore, we are not seeing our kids bombed, burnt alive, having limbs blow off etc. And now being deliberately starved, or shot while queuing for far too little food. And fair play every time there is a query about their horrendous war crimes Israel promise to look into it!!
Yes its true that over 70% of murders being committed by Israel are women and children. Its not 100 not 1000 not 10000 but over 20000 innocent kids slaughtered. While the international media are barred from Gaza.
At present, while the world attention is on Iran, Israel continue to starve the population of Gaza, a mere 50 more killed today while queuing for food.
Come on Alan why the hell do you have a hatred of Israel????


Very good. I see what you done there. Bravo.

Re: OT: TRUMP ORDERS STRIKE ON IRAN NUCLEAR SITES

Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:43 pm

Where you gone Allan?