Is it all about the young players?

Ralls has gone.

Rinomhota is going.

Robinson and O'Dowda linked with transfers.



Is it all going to be about the young players for BBM?

I hope not, we need a couple of experienced signings to bring leadership on the pitch.

Ralls has gone.

Rinomhota is going.

Robinson and O'Dowda linked with transfers.



Is it all going to be about the young players for BBM?

I hope not, we need a couple of experienced signings to bring leadership on the pitch.

This was my concern when he got appointed. He's obviously good at working with young players but ours aren't that good imo. Ashford is the only one I think could go far the rest flatter to decieve. Hopefully he can get the best out of the rest.

Football is a youngs man's game now and the top teams average age is low I get that but we are going to bullied off the park if we don't add a few experienced heads and leaders in this league.

I've seen a few fans name their starting line ups as it stands and obviously that will change but the majority are picking a team full of young lads that won't be anywhere near promotion imo.

Ralls has gone.

Rinomhota is going.

Robinson and O'Dowda linked with transfers.



Is it all going to be about the young players for BBM?

I hope not, we need a couple of experienced signings to bring leadership on the pitch.

Fully agree. Arguably, the lack of know how, guts and genuine fighters / senior pros cost us last season.

It raises the question as to whether BBM is at all comfortable with older, experienced professionals or does he feel threatened by them i.e. that he feels they might know more than him.

This is League 1, we need some grafters and leaders.

It’s what happens when you get relegated.

Players happy to leave and try their luck at a higher level.

We will lose more if they don’t want to be here.

I also believe we need a nice blend of youth and experience but it seems BBM is going the young player route

For all those saying can't have a team that young remember the last time someone said you can't win anything with kids and what the outcome of that was

It's about BBMs players and who he wants, not necessarily youth. We need a massive clear out and fresh voices in that dressing room. A total reset. Absolutely none of the out of contract players were worth keeping. I am really pleased hes making these moves. Ng, Tanner, Chambers, Willock and Robinson next please. Then we need to recruit some experienced players with fresh ideas and no losers mentality

Relying on youngsters isn't the way to go so I hope bbm doesn't get rid of all the old heads otherwise we will struggle here's hoping there's a mix youth with experience

It’s what happens when you get relegated.

Players happy to leave and try their luck at a higher level.

We will lose more if they don’t want to be here.

These exits are coming from BBM, pretty obvious.

Thought so when he did his press conference and said they'd deal with it quickly.

Also, Ralls said in his statement that BBM was honest with him and the club said Rinomhota is leaving after discussions with First Team management.

It’s what happens when you get relegated.

Players happy to leave and try their luck at a higher level.

We will lose more if they don’t want to be here.

These exits are coming from BBM, pretty obvious.

Thought so when he did his press conference and said they'd deal with it quickly.

Also, Ralls said in his statement that BBM was honest with him and the club said Rinomhota is leaving after discussions with First Team management.

Discussions could have been the players wanting to leave, even an honest conversation with BBM. We don’t know.

That would be a disaster, i'm all for giving youth a chance but the core of the team will need experience.

Everyone quotes the famous Hanson quote in 95 but for all the fuss of Giggs 21, Neville, Scholes, Beckham, Butt all 20 years old,but the others were

Schmeichel 31, Bruce 34, Irwin 29, Pallister 30, May 25, Keane 24, Sharp 24, Cantona 29, A.Cole 23, McClaire 31,

Players should be kept on ability not age ,if BBM thinks they are not what’s required then he has the right to shift them on and get players in he wants.Most of our so called experienced pros went missing last year so they will be no loss

Hopefully Lee Riley has a dossier of potential players

Ralls has gone.

Rinomhota is going.

Robinson and O'Dowda linked with transfers.



Is it all going to be about the young players for BBM?

I hope not, we need a couple of experienced signings to bring leadership on the pitch.

It's time for a total overhaul. Let's ditch every single player who's out of contract and clearly wasn't good enough. On top of that, we need to offload a few more – whether we can get a transfer fee or they want out. After clearing the deadwood, we can finally start from scratch and build a unified squad with the remaining dedicated players.

I think we will need to be patient. I don't think it's necessarily all about age but I do think all of our players will need to run to play the way's he's hinted at in his press conferences.

I'd imagine the budget has been presented and he's worked out who he need to release to make way for his players.

Hopefully Lee Riley has a dossier of potential players

Will only be more youth that's the problem youth is great but without experience it's not worth much

so what defines a young player?
in my eyes rubin fish daland even salach should not be classed as young players. loads of good players have 50 to 100 first team appearances by the age of 22-23.
yes if we were putting out 11 teenagers I would be worried but I'm sure BBM will bring a couple of 25 to 28 year old to add the experience. I still feel let down by the so called senior players last year so won't be disappointed to see any of them leave.

Hopefully Lee Riley has a dossier of potential players

Will only be more youth that's the problem youth is great but without experience it's not worth much

Apparently, this is not the case and he has a few ‘experienced’ players in mind to come in and compliment the young talent we so clearly have. Good to see him bigging up Rubin Colwill as an important player, too. This, for me, is his make or break season! :ayatollah

Riley was part of a sophisticated recruitment organization, Man city is the top of the city group, but they have many interests around the world, some may be out level. He'd have reports and just be part of a far superior system than Psddy Guessboys.

I hope he took a big pen drive to work the day before handing in his notice and downloaded the lot

Perhaps he feels more comfortable with younger players or with someone his own age or older he may find difficult to coach or just feel awkward.

Perhaps he feels more comfortable with younger players or with someone his own age or older he may find difficult to coach or just feel awkward.

Monty he is 47 in a few weeks !!!!!

Taking sentiment away, I think it indicates that you need to be able to run for 100 mins, twice a week to be in the sqaud.

I don't think we'll be playing walking football anymore.

Perhaps he feels more comfortable with younger players or with someone his own age or older he may find difficult to coach or just feel awkward.

Monty he is 47 in a few weeks !!!!!

Thought i looked good at 66,
47 he looks well.
my main thinking was he prefers to coach younger players.

Ralls has gone.

Rinomhota is going.

Robinson and O'Dowda linked with transfers.



Is it all going to be about the young players for BBM?

I hope not, we need a couple of experienced signings to bring leadership on the pitch.

this team needs a refresh.
Although a leader would be ideal i think the youngsters will give it there all.
We have not had a leader in midfield since Gunnarsson left us.

Ralls has gone.

Rinomhota is going.

Robinson and O'Dowda linked with transfers.



Is it all going to be about the young players for BBM?

I hope not, we need a couple of experienced signings to bring leadership on the pitch.

this team needs a refresh.
Although a leader would be ideal i think the youngsters will give it there all.
We have not had a leader in midfield since Gunnarsson left us.

What was Joe Ralls, then????

Ralls has gone.

Rinomhota is going.

Robinson and O'Dowda linked with transfers.



Is it all going to be about the young players for BBM?

I hope not, we need a couple of experienced signings to bring leadership on the pitch.

this team needs a refresh.
Although a leader would be ideal i think the youngsters will give it there all.
We have not had a leader in midfield since Gunnarsson left us.

What was Joe Ralls, then????

Although more injury prone now, part of me feels we've ditched Ralls (our club captain) a season too early. He'll be 32 later this year and that isn't old, by League 1 or any standard.

You could say Joe is Mr Cardiff City - I think his departure is hasty and quite sad.

I had a few beers last night and woke up this morning slightly more apprehensive.

I think reality is starting to bite. I thought Ralls would stay and was surprised Rinomhota was still in talks as i assumed he'd be gone. I am happy that all those who have gone. I am assuming CO'D & CR go as they can get championship contracts.
I can see a position for Chambers but i think he'll be gone soon as well. I hope Horvath and Willock leave mutually.Not sure which way Turnbull goes, but he has been a disappointment. But so has the club from his point of view.

That leaves us with Wintle, who i rate and could be our sitter, he can run, which i think is the first non-negotiable, NG and Alnwick as senior pro's. Until I see an Aiden Flint/ Sean Morison type, i worry.

Wintle, NG, Bagan, Giles, J Colwill, and King are all 6 foot, which i think is a must in this league. Kpakio looks a bit undersized, though. If we stayed in the championship, we would have wanted a loan to a L1 club for Lawlor.

Rubin in a unit (just needs to understand that), so is Tanner and of course, Salech. Only Robertson and Davies are small, but neither are skinny.

Physically, we are not getting bullied. We have lacked leaders since the Warnock team broke up.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall when BBM & Riley meet Patrick Deboys, he has recruited diametrically opposite in terms of speed and mobility. I doubnt they'll be many more "club buys"

Sunderland had an avg age in the early 20's - but they also had players in their late 20's and a few in their 30's in their squad.

It’s what happens when you get relegated.

Players happy to leave and try their luck at a higher level.

We will lose more if they don’t want to be here.

Birmingham and many other clubs have shown that if you keep the players you want and rebuild around them, it's very easy to bounce back, BBM will be picking his core team and selling and buying or letting go the players he needs to change.

We need an experienced spine of the team. So GK, CB and CM and keep Salech up top. Add youth around that and it will be a perfect mix. Our wingers and full backs I think are going to need a lot of pace and energy so an older experienced player in these positions are not going to cut it under BBM I think.

When I say older and experienced I’m going by 27 years old which isn’t old at all but in football terms you should have reached your peak by then.