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Dalman states again he wants more football people involved

Mon May 12, 2025 4:21 pm

But can he convince tan, I just think he's to stubborn to change now

Also interesting to see former Swansea sporting director will be leading the new committee to find our manager


Cardiff City will trial a new process to appoint their next manager, by assembling a sub-committee – including former Swansea City sporting director Mark Allen – to lead a search they hope to complete by the end of May.
Relegated after finishing bottom of the Championship, Cardiff are preparing to play in the third tier next season for the first time since 2003.



They are looking for their ninth manager in four years after sacking Erol Bulut and Omer Riza during this campaign, with Aaron Ramsey taking charge of the final three games on a temporary basis.
Such turbulence on and off the field has prompted fierce criticism from fans, who have staged protests demanding that club owner Vincent Tan and the board leave.


Supporters and former players have questioned Tan's apparent reluctance to appoint a director of football or some kind of intermediary between the board and the management team.


In what appears to be a reaction to criticism of the board's lack of football knowledge, Cardiff will use a new sub-committee for their next managerial appointment, with "high" interest in the job according to chairman Mehmet Dalman.
Formed on a one-off basis for this recruitment process, the sub-committee will answer to the board and will feature Bluebirds head of academy Gavin Chesterfield, former Manchester City academy manager Allen and a member of the Wasserman agency.
"I think some of the criticism is fair, some of it is not fair. Overall, I would say I would welcome more knowledge on football," said Dalman.
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Re: Dalman states again he wants more football people involv

Mon May 12, 2025 4:27 pm

Blue since 1981 wrote:But can he convince tan, I just think he's to stubborn to change now

Also interesting to see former Swansea sporting director will be leading the new committee to find our manager

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... pk3JXe8Fww

Apologies I read it wrong former swansea sports directer will form part of a new committee to find a new manager

Re: Dalman states again he wants more football people involv

Mon May 12, 2025 4:27 pm

Dalman has said consistently that he wants more football expertise at the club, but as long as Tan is the owner it doesn't matter because he won't allow it for some reason.

I've got my issues with Dalman but I wouldn't be surprised if he's involved in some sort of consortium that takes us over at some point.

He would certainly be a lot better than Tan because he has rightly believed for years that the structure at the club is wrong.

Unfortunately, the only person who makes the big decisions at the moment is Tan.

Re: Dalman states again he wants more football people involv

Mon May 12, 2025 4:30 pm

I think everytime Tan has listened to Dalman, it has bit him on the backside...!

Conversely, everytime Tan hasn't listened to Dalman, it has bit him on the backside...!

Sadly, it's been a shit show on the levels of the BBC's 'El Dorado' :cry:

Re: Dalman states again he wants more football people involv

Mon May 12, 2025 4:31 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:Dalman has said consistently that he wants more football expertise at the club, but as long as Tan is the owner it doesn't matter because he won't allow it for some reason.


I've got my issues with Dalman but I wouldn't be surprised if he's involved in some sort of consortium that takes us over at some point.

He would certainly be a lot better than Tan because he has rightly believed for years that the structure at the club is wrong.

Unfortunately, the only person who makes the big decisions at the moment is Tan.

Think I'd prefer dalman calling the shots as the lesser of two evils

At least he acknowledges the need for football people to control the football side of things

Unlike tan who thinks he's a football guru

Re: Dalman states again he wants more football people involv

Mon May 12, 2025 5:30 pm

How long does it take to do a shortlist? Chesterfield as part of the process is a joke. Before he came to us he managed Barry who were relegated to the Welsh League. We need someone in by end of May as players contracts and retained list need to be sorted, transfer targets identified and a suitable pre season programme sorted out

Re: Dalman states again he wants more football people involv

Mon May 12, 2025 5:39 pm

Brezza wrote:How long does it take to do a shortlist? Chesterfield as part of the process is a joke. Before he came to us he managed Barry who were relegated to the Welsh League. We need someone in by end of May as players contracts and retained list need to be sorted, transfer targets identified and a suitable pre season programme sorted out


Won't be down to the new manager to sort out the retained list for a number of reasons - and I actually agree with that.

He won't have met the players because they're all on holiday and he won't know them. Doesn't make sense for him to make that decision.

Besides, the decision has likely already been made on player contacts - just waiting to be announced.

I also don't see any rush in bringing the new manager in. Would want them in place in June to sort things out before the players come back in.


But I'm actually glad they're not rushing things. Better to get it done right than quickly.

Re: Dalman states again he wants more football people involv

Mon May 12, 2025 5:40 pm

I feel like this is going to be another massive shit show when the manager is appointed. I feel like the whole Wasserman thing is just to appease the fans, similar to the Salech signing around the time of the march before the Swansea game.

Clubs are getting their business done early and have released their retained lists and will be identifying players to target in the summer window. We’re still waiting for a “shortlist” to be drawn up, a month after Riza went. Shows the total lack of planning at the club

Re: Dalman states again he wants more football people involv

Mon May 12, 2025 5:41 pm

I have a story about Dalman down the City today talking to a good friend of mine.

I will put it out later

Re: Dalman states again he wants more football people involv

Mon May 12, 2025 6:04 pm

It’s been a month since Riza was sacked and we knew about 6 months ago that he was highly unlikely to be our Manager next season

A shortlist for a new Manager should have been in place Months ago and one should already have been appointed by now

Our club is a shambles from top to bottom

Things are not going to change under Tan

Re: Dalman states again he wants more football people involv

Mon May 12, 2025 6:08 pm

Let’s just see what they come up with. No point getting our knickers in a twist over a decision that’s not been made yet.

I’ve no doubt they’ll probably mess it up, but let’s see.

Re: Dalman states again he wants more football people involv

Mon May 12, 2025 6:13 pm

oohahhPaulMillar wrote:It’s been a month since Riza was sacked and we knew about 6 months ago that he was highly unlikely to be our Manager next season

A shortlist for a new Manager should have been in place Months ago and one should already have been appointed by now

Our club is a shambles from top to bottom

Things are not going to change under Tan


I'm all for criticising the board but not on board with criticising them before they've even made an appointment.

Unless you're saying Norwich, West Brom, Sheffield Wednesday etc are all a "shambles" too.

Criticising for the sake of criticising makes any future criticism nothing but worthless.

Re: Dalman states again he wants more football people involv

Mon May 12, 2025 6:17 pm

my biggest worry with this time scale is if we're drawing up a short list of 6 in the next fortnight I assume this is going to rule out Nathan Jones and Dave chandler. I suppose some will say they either want the job or they don't but championship football could be an overriding factor for them.

Re: Dalman states again he wants more football people involv

Mon May 12, 2025 6:19 pm

Positive hat on.... nice to see a) a plan and b) some communication.

Re: Dalman states again he wants more football people involv

Mon May 12, 2025 6:24 pm

This is the sub committee being used as a one off trial in answer to club not having a footballing man at club.. it is
on a one-off basis for this recruitment process, the sub-committee will answer to the board and will feature Bluebirds head of academy Gavin Chesterfield, former Manchester City academy manager Mark Allen and a member of the Wasserman agency....someone did listen then?

Re: Dalman states again he wants more football people involv

Mon May 12, 2025 7:35 pm

So this is the "review", eh?

Instead of installing a sporting director at board level and a high functioning football ops dept, they appoint a "trial sub committee", comprising of an agency who know nothing about the club, a consultant who failed at Swansea and our only in-house member is a former uni lecturer who managed Barry Town.

And they decide the initial draft of candidates to recommend to a board who have zero football knowledge for Tan to sign off.

I've never seen a situation like it. The madness continues.

Re: Dalman states again he wants more football people involv

Mon May 12, 2025 7:46 pm

GrangeEndStar wrote:So this is the "review", eh?

Instead of installing a sporting director at board level and a high functioning football ops dept, they appoint a "trial sub committee", comprising of an agency who know nothing about the club, a consultant who failed at Swansea and our only in-house member is a former uni lecturer who managed Barry Town.

And they decide the initial draft of candidates to recommend to a board who have zero football knowledge for Tan to sign off.

I've never seen a situation like it. The madness continues.



Well it's something different even if the end product will be different as no internal appointment.

Re: Dalman states again he wants more football people involv

Mon May 12, 2025 8:36 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:It’s been a month since Riza was sacked and we knew about 6 months ago that he was highly unlikely to be our Manager next season

A shortlist for a new Manager should have been in place Months ago and one should already have been appointed by now

Our club is a shambles from top to bottom

Things are not going to change under Tan


I'm all for criticising the board but not on board with criticising them before they've even made an appointment.

Unless you're saying Norwich, West Brom, Sheffield Wednesday etc are all a "shambles" too.

Criticising for the sake of criticising makes any future criticism nothing but worthless.


Well for what it’s worth Sheff Wed are definitely a shambles as well…

So are you saying that’s it’s unfair for me to criticise a board of directors who for the umpteenth time in the last decade sack yet another Manager without any plan in place whatsoever of who they are going to permanently replace him with. Then go into yet another pre season with no permanent Manager or coaching staff and without a clue about where or what to do about pre season tours and training schedule??

Sorry you don’t agree but yes to me that actually is shambolic and the board should be criticised for it!!

Re: Dalman states again he wants more football people involv

Mon May 12, 2025 8:49 pm

The new committee is only temporary and only there to draw up a shortlist of candidates.
After that it's more of the same - pointless.

Re: Dalman states again he wants more football people involv

Mon May 12, 2025 9:12 pm

oohahhPaulMillar wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:It’s been a month since Riza was sacked and we knew about 6 months ago that he was highly unlikely to be our Manager next season

A shortlist for a new Manager should have been in place Months ago and one should already have been appointed by now

Our club is a shambles from top to bottom

Things are not going to change under Tan


I'm all for criticising the board but not on board with criticising them before they've even made an appointment.

Unless you're saying Norwich, West Brom, Sheffield Wednesday etc are all a "shambles" too.

Criticising for the sake of criticising makes any future criticism nothing but worthless.


Well for what it’s worth Sheff Wed are definitely a shambles as well…

So are you saying that’s it’s unfair for me to criticise a board of directors who for the umpteenth time in the last decade sack yet another Manager without any plan in place whatsoever of who they are going to permanently replace him with. Then go into yet another pre season with no permanent Manager or coaching staff and without a clue about where or what to do about pre season tours and training schedule??

Sorry you don’t agree but yes to me that actually is shambolic and the board should be criticised for it!!



Have we started pre season already? Must have been hibernating! Guess the other clubs without managers have pre season booked along with training schedules? Why can't we be like them? :o
Point is bit early to be saying nothing in place as just finished season and pre season isn't until July? so got time to get Manager in and do rest of things needed for next season

Re: Dalman states again he wants more football people involv

Mon May 12, 2025 9:17 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:It’s been a month since Riza was sacked and we knew about 6 months ago that he was highly unlikely to be our Manager next season

A shortlist for a new Manager should have been in place Months ago and one should already have been appointed by now

Our club is a shambles from top to bottom

Things are not going to change under Tan


I'm all for criticising the board but not on board with criticising them before they've even made an appointment.

Unless you're saying Norwich, West Brom, Sheffield Wednesday etc are all a "shambles" too.

Criticising for the sake of criticising makes any future criticism nothing but worthless.


Well for what it’s worth Sheff Wed are definitely a shambles as well…

So are you saying that’s it’s unfair for me to criticise a board of directors who for the umpteenth time in the last decade sack yet another Manager without any plan in place whatsoever of who they are going to permanently replace him with. Then go into yet another pre season with no permanent Manager or coaching staff and without a clue about where or what to do about pre season tours and training schedule??

Sorry you don’t agree but yes to me that actually is shambolic and the board should be criticised for it!!



Have we started pre season already? Must have been hibernating! Guess the other clubs without managers have pre season booked along with training schedules? Why can't we be like them? :o
Point is bit early to be saying nothing in place as just finished season and pre season isn't until July? so got time to get Manager in and do rest of things needed for next season


Spot on Allan.

Re: Dalman states again he wants more football people involv

Mon May 12, 2025 10:13 pm

Football people involved at our Club :shock:

Re: Dalman states again he wants more football people involv

Tue May 13, 2025 8:25 am

Forever Blue wrote:I have a story about Dalman down the City today talking to a good friend of mine.

I will put it out later


What’s the story then……. ?