Daeli - from a Man Ure Fan

The difference between Dealhi and those three, Dealhi wasn't rated enough by another top club European club, the other three were and United cashed in. Man Utd let Dealhi go for free and the top european clubs didn't want him?.

He was not in the market for other clubs. He was a Man Utd youth player until Solskjaer brought him with him to Molde, although with a buy-back clause. He was allowed to leave, partly because Man Utd know he would receive the exact same training he previously got at their youth team.

Next, when he wanted to follow his mentor to Cardiff, Man Utd tried to use their buy back clause, but Daehli chose to follow Solskjaer nevertheless. And I reckon this is what is so unimaginable to you. To chose Cardiff before Man U. Well let me walk you through why I think he did so.

I’m sure Daehli knows he will be playing more first team football in Cardiff than he would at Man U. This will do his future career a world of good. At the same time he knows he’s got complete trust and backing from his manager. Further adding to the decision, the fact that he is teaming up with his mates (Eikrem, Berget) makes the transition so much easier on an 18 year old kid in a foreign place. And we haven’t even mentioned the word loyalty. Loyalty to the coach he’s had more or less since he was 13, and who has guided him to where he is now.

I think this is a very, very wise decision by MMD. Given his skill and prosperous future, any intelligent kid would have chosen the same path. I am confident this is a great career move for him.

Got to love negative trolls.

Time will tell how good he is.

Super Kev - those are three good points. but 3 players out of how many? The difference between Dealhi and those three, Dealhi wasn't rated enough by another top club European club, the other three were and United cashed in. Man Utd let Dealhi go for free and the top european clubs didn't want him?.

To summarise

3 Good prospects tempted by Champions league football.

Dealhi tempted by Molde then Cardiff ahead Man Utd. I'm sorry but his guy isn't quite the player his 10 minutes against Bolton suggests. My big concern and dare I say it, Alex Ferguson's concern.......Is he strong enough for British football? He looks weak and skinny, time will tell, but I won't be told that Man Utd wanted him. They clearly were fussed,neither were other top clubs. I guess they are all wrong and you'll choose advice from amessage board lurker ahead of the facts.

Weak and skinny like, nasri, ramsey, Silva, some of the best players in the PL. Stop being so negative mate have a bit of faith, this Norwegian gentleman has just told you manu wanted to keep him! I aware if we signed ronaldo half the people on this forum would say he was shit.

Nasri isn't skinny at all,infact I think he looks a bit over weight.. Ramsey isn't as skinny and frail looking as Dealhi. And let's not forget, Ramsey was bought by a top 4 club, Dealhi was let go.(twice).
I'm not being negative or positive, just analysing the facts, If you want to believe the word of a 'norweigen gentleman' with no post history that's upto you. I predict that Dealhi will have an initial flourish then fade into mediocrity, struggling with the physicality of this league.

Super Kev - those are three good points. but 3 players out of how many? The difference between Dealhi and those three, Dealhi wasn't rated enough by another top club European club, the other three were and United cashed in. Man Utd let Dealhi go for free and the top european clubs didn't want him?.

To summarise

3 Good prospects tempted by Champions league football.

Dealhi tempted by Molde then Cardiff ahead Man Utd. I'm sorry but his guy isn't quite the player his 10 minutes against Bolton suggests. My big concern and dare I say it, Alex Ferguson's concern.......Is he strong enough for British football? He looks weak and skinny, time will tell, but I won't be told that Man Utd wanted him. They clearly were fussed,neither were other top clubs. I guess they are all wrong and you'll choose advice from amessage board lurker ahead of the facts.

Weak and skinny like, nasri, ramsey, Silva, some of the best players in the PL. Stop being so negative mate have a bit of faith, this Norwegian gentleman has just told you manu wanted to keep him! I aware if we signed ronaldo half the people on this forum would say he was shit.

Nasri isn't skinny at all,infact I think he looks a bit over weight.. Ramsey isn't as skinny and frail looking as Dealhi. And let's not forget, Ramsey was bought by a top 4 club, Dealhi was let go.(twice).
I'm not being negative or positive, just analysing the facts, If you want to believe the word of a 'norweigen gentleman' with no post history that's upto you. I predict that Dealhi will have an initial flourish then fade into mediocrity, struggling with the physicality of this league.

I think we all know what you think about Dhaeli, just wish you would stop banging on with all the negative shit.
As most on here do I suspect.

Super Kev - those are three good points. but 3 players out of how many? The difference between Dealhi and those three, Dealhi wasn't rated enough by another top club European club, the other three were and United cashed in. Man Utd let Dealhi go for free and the top european clubs didn't want him?.

To summarise

3 Good prospects tempted by Champions league football.

Dealhi tempted by Molde then Cardiff ahead Man Utd. I'm sorry but his guy isn't quite the player his 10 minutes against Bolton suggests. My big concern and dare I say it, Alex Ferguson's concern.......Is he strong enough for British football? He looks weak and skinny, time will tell, but I won't be told that Man Utd wanted him. They clearly were fussed,neither were other top clubs. I guess they are all wrong and you'll choose advice from amessage board lurker ahead of the facts.

Weak and skinny like, nasri, ramsey, Silva, some of the best players in the PL. Stop being so negative mate have a bit of faith, this Norwegian gentleman has just told you manu wanted to keep him! I aware if we signed ronaldo half the people on this forum would say he was shit.

Nasri isn't skinny at all,infact I think he looks a bit over weight.. Ramsey isn't as skinny and frail looking as Dealhi. And let's not forget, Ramsey was bought by a top 4 club, Dealhi was let go.(twice).
I'm not being negative or positive, just analysing the facts, If you want to believe the word of a 'norweigen gentleman' with no post history that's upto you. I predict that Dealhi will have an initial flourish then fade into mediocrity, struggling with the physicality of this league.

I think we all know what you think about Dhaeli, just wish you would stop banging on with all the negative shit.
As most on here do I suspect.

Ok I'll try and post delusional happy clappy messages for you in future GENERAL.

Most people will agree that he is really skinny, and United weren't that bothered. This reminds me of when Cornelius signed, People were saying we'd win games if Cornelius started, and have no chance if he didn't, All this, having only seen youtube clips. I reckon our fans were more clued up in div 3.

Super Kev - those are three good points. but 3 players out of how many? The difference between Dealhi and those three, Dealhi wasn't rated enough by another top club European club, the other three were and United cashed in. Man Utd let Dealhi go for free and the top european clubs didn't want him?.

To summarise

3 Good prospects tempted by Champions league football.

Dealhi tempted by Molde then Cardiff ahead Man Utd. I'm sorry but his guy isn't quite the player his 10 minutes against Bolton suggests. My big concern and dare I say it, Alex Ferguson's concern.......Is he strong enough for British football? He looks weak and skinny, time will tell, but I won't be told that Man Utd wanted him. They clearly were fussed,neither were other top clubs. I guess they are all wrong and you'll choose advice from amessage board lurker ahead of the facts.

Weak and skinny like, nasri, ramsey, Silva, some of the best players in the PL. Stop being so negative mate have a bit of faith, this Norwegian gentleman has just told you manu wanted to keep him! I aware if we signed ronaldo half the people on this forum would say he was shit.

Nasri isn't skinny at all,infact I think he looks a bit over weight.. Ramsey isn't as skinny and frail looking as Dealhi. And let's not forget, Ramsey was bought by a top 4 club, Dealhi was let go.(twice).
I'm not being negative or positive, just analysing the facts, If you want to believe the word of a 'norweigen gentleman' with no post history that's upto you. I predict that Dealhi will have an initial flourish then fade into mediocrity, struggling with the physicality of this league.

I think we all know what you think about Dhaeli, just wish you would stop banging on with all the negative shit.
As most on here do I suspect.

Ok I'll try and post delusional happy clappy messages for you in future GENERAL.

Most people will agree that he is really skinny, and United weren't that bothered. This reminds me of when Cornelius signed, People were saying we'd win games if Cornelius started, and have no chance if he didn't, All this, having only seen youtube clips. I reckon our fans were more clued up in div 3.

Okay, you must know more about football than OGS does then.
You should be a manager.

Well I saw Daehli Saturday and left Bolton well impressed. I can't remember the last time I saw a player in a City shirt with anything even resembling that level of skill.

Who knows what the future holds? But judging by his suberb cameo on a horrible Reebok pitch in wet awful conditions and a weakened midfield, my bet is Ole's mined a real diamond for us.

I hope you're right and he is class.

Super Kev - those are three good points. but 3 players out of how many? The difference between Dealhi and those three, Dealhi wasn't rated enough by another top club European club, the other three were and United cashed in. Man Utd let Dealhi go for free and the top european clubs didn't want him?.

To summarise

3 Good prospects tempted by Champions league football.

Dealhi tempted by Molde then Cardiff ahead Man Utd. I'm sorry but his guy isn't quite the player his 10 minutes against Bolton suggests. My big concern and dare I say it, Alex Ferguson's concern.......Is he strong enough for British football? He looks weak and skinny, time will tell, but I won't be told that Man Utd wanted him. They clearly were fussed,neither were other top clubs. I guess they are all wrong and you'll choose advice from amessage board lurker ahead of the facts.

Weak and skinny like, nasri, ramsey, Silva, some of the best players in the PL. Stop being so negative mate have a bit of faith, this Norwegian gentleman has just told you manu wanted to keep him! I aware if we signed ronaldo half the people on this forum would say he was shit.

Nasri isn't skinny at all,infact I think he looks a bit over weight.. Ramsey isn't as skinny and frail looking as Dealhi. And let's not forget, Ramsey was bought by a top 4 club, Dealhi was let go.(twice).
I'm not being negative or positive, just analysing the facts, If you want to believe the word of a 'norweigen gentleman' with no post history that's upto you. I predict that Dealhi will have an initial flourish then fade into mediocrity, struggling with the physicality of this league.

United fan here. I decided to sign up for this board to clear everything up.

1. United did not want to let go of Daehli. Daehli left United because he wanted first team football. He also didn't get to play for the u21s even though he clearly deserved to. Daehli and Januzaj had a lethal partnership for the u18s where he would play as a left attacking midfielder and Januzaj would play behind the striker. Januzaj started to play for the u21s at the start of February and became the best player for the u21s despite just turning 18. Daehli didn't get that same chance and that probably aided his decision to leave United.

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/mats-m%C3%B8ller-d%C3%A6hli.322811/page-6

This thread shows you how shocked United fans were when he left.

2. Which is a higher quality level of football? Norwegian league, or u21 football? It's clear to see that Norwegian League is of higher quality so why stay if he knows Ole will play him?

3. United did try to buy him back, but he turned United down. Why would he turn down United? Because he wants first team football. He has less competition at Cardiff and has a manager he trusts to best develop him. Why go to United where he'll have much more competition for playing time and go to a manager who doesn't know him one bit?

4. Most United fans feel Daehli is just below Januzaj's level, but that doesn't really do Daehli any harm. Over the past 5 years or so At youth level I would rank Ravel and Januzaj as 1a and 1b. Not even Pogba was as good as those two at youth level so he would be listed at 2. Daehli would come at 3 and some other highly regarded talents like Wilson, Pereira, and Pearson would be just below Daehli. This means that Daehli is really highly rated. The reason why he didn't get big clubs after him like Januzaj and Pogba was because they had already proven themselves at u21 level football for United and had clearly started to knock on the door for United's first team. Daehli didn't get to do that so of course he would be under the radar of these big clubs. Eikrem isn't on the same level of talent as Daehli btw.

5. Daehli is only 18. There is no reason to moan about him being skinny as he will fill out as he gets older. Januzaj was skinnier than Daehli until this season. The fact that Daehli is skinny should be a positive because if he's able to do what he's doing despite being physically inferior, what do you think he'll show when he's stronger in 3 years? In Youth football, physical maturity is a big advantage as they're simply too strong or fast for other kids the same age. They get by on their physical ability and not their skill. What happens when they play against men? They suck because they no longer have that physical advantage. Skill however will always translate.

Daehli is a playmaker. He's an attacking midfielder who will help the midfield out by always offering a passing option, by having a high passing %, and he will find ways to hurt the defense by setting up the final pass. His technique is top quality and his intelligence is also of the highest quality. There is no reason to be pessimistic over him. He's not a cert (very very rare) to be a star in the future, but his talent and his performances at youth level make me believe he will become one.

Ermmmm 1st post at 6:20 am to 'clear things up' .......really roathie? What are you clearing up exactly Jack? Any lingering doubts that you're a fruitcake?

United let him go twice, if he wanted first team football, they would have signed the boy and loaned him out as with revered prospects like David beckham et al. I'm not saying he can't do a job for us this season but it's doubtful he'll amount tomuch, probablybe like johnathon greening, which isn't bad I suppose, I hope it's all cleared up for you now gypo

Over the past 5 years or so At youth level I would rank Ravel and Januzaj as 1a and 1b. Not even Pogba was as good as those two at youth level so he would be listed at 2. Daehli would come at 3 and some other highly regarded talents like Wilson, Pereira, and Pearson would be just below Daehli. This means that Daehli is really highly rated

Yeah by you,in your a b c system

Deluded as ever

Ermmmm 1st post at 6:20 am to 'clear things up' .......really roathie? What are you clearing up exactly Jack? Any lingering doubts that you're a fruitcake?

United let him go twice, if he wanted first team football, they would have signed the boy and loaned him out as with revered prospects like David beckham et al. I'm not saying he can't do a job for us this season but it's doubtful he'll amount tomuch, probablybe like johnathon greening, which isn't bad I suppose, I hope it's all cleared up for you now gypo

You're wrong and there's no getting above that fact. I'm a United fan that watches United's youth team all the time. How can United loan Daehli if Daehli refused United? That makes no sense. And just because United loan out players it doesn't mean they'll play for the first team. Secondly, United have a hand in picking where a player gets loaned to. Henriquez was loaned to Wigan and now he's at Zaragoza. Lingard was loaned to Leicester and then Birmingham. The list goes on.

Finally, United typically don't loan out players who haven't played for the u21s. I already stated that Daehli didn't really play for the u21s yet. He would have had to play this season for the u21s before getting a loan deal. Why do that when he can just sign for Ole and get first team experience right now?

I already posted the link to redcafe. Here's some direct quotes if you didn't bother clicking on there.

"I very much doubt we would sell him after crowning him the academy young player of the year, so soon.

The kid needs to develop but he potentially could be amazing. It is way too early to tell at this age."

"Less than 1% chance of him being sold this summer."

"I will be gutted if we sell him. More so than selling Pogba."

"For all we know we've another Pogba here?"

"It's a loan move, it's surely a loan move."

"How can that be true though?. You don't name him the most talented kid in the academy and then kick him out a season later :confused:

Unless the kid just does not like England and wants to move back home? It just does not make sense."

"Dæhli was interviewed by a Norwegian newspaper today. I can't be arsed to translate the whole thing, but here are the key points:

* Playing first team football for United was his dream, so the decision to leave was not an easy one.
* Nevertheless, his contract has a buy-back claue, should United become interested again.
* His reason for leaving is because he wishes to develop as a player. He feels that Molde is the best place for this.
* Solskjær was the most important motivation for his move. He's known Solskjær for a long time, and feels safer when he is in charge of his development.
* He's also inspired by Eikrem, who made a similar move and became pretty successful."


Yeah, not rated by United. The fans clearly rated him. The club gave him the academy player of the year award. United don't get rid of talented players like that go unless they want to leave. Look how long Macheda has stayed at United and he wasn't close to being as talented as Daehli. You're having a shocker.

If United wanted him but thought he was a star and dealhi's 'dream'was to play in the United first team, why not sign him then loan out? this makes sense for United and Daelhi.

A club wants a player, the player dreams of the club. Player signs for us? doesn't make sense.

I'mmuch more a fan of unknown younger players rising up the league than top 4 cast offs looking to prove experts wrong.

I hope I'm wrong about is potential, Time will tell.

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Over the past 5 years or so At youth level I would rank Ravel and Januzaj as 1a and 1b. Not even Pogba was as good as those two at youth level so he would be listed at 2. Daehli would come at 3 and some other highly regarded talents like Wilson, Pereira, and Pearson would be just below Daehli. This means that Daehli is really highly rated

Yeah by you,in your a b c system

Deluded as ever

That system featured Pogba, Januzaj, Ravel Morrison, Giuseppe Rossi, the Da Silva twins, etc...

Over the past 5 years or so At youth level I would rank Ravel and Januzaj as 1a and 1b. Not even Pogba was as good as those two at youth level so he would be listed at 2. Daehli would come at 3 and some other highly regarded talents like Wilson, Pereira, and Pearson would be just below Daehli. This means that Daehli is really highly rated

Yeah by you,in your a b c system

Deluded as ever

That system featured Pogba, Januzaj, Ravel Morrison, Giuseppe Rossi, the Da Silva twins, etc...

With you ranking them, not United coaches. that's the point I was making.