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I think a lot of the bigger clubs have 30 or 40,000 people advising the manager how he can improve things, and Malky is getting plenty of advice right now if he chooses to read this forum. I think that most people on here have valid points, irrespective of whether or not they back Malky, and although I personally think he will do ok, he appears to make some tactical decisions that supporters have every right to question. When things are not going to well, maybe that's the time for people to stick together, because the manager will be as desperate for success as the supporters. I think he deserves the chance to remain through the January tfr window, and hopefully bring in one or two players who can give us that missing cutting edge. Too early to panic, after all we're only 8 points behind Man U.

Be Honest

Only 2 weeks ago Malky was a hero after the draw with Man United and only over a month ago a hero when we beat the Jacks, surely our fans should support him through the bad patches.


If we are where we are now in May 2014, we'll be having a party, with Malky on the top table...

Thats all we ever expected or wanted.

True or Not?

Annis, for THIS season I believe that to be TRUE and most supporters stated that before the season opened

Unfortunately, Malky has almost become a victim of his own early success in the Premier League and many (certainly not all) began having unrealistic expectations of what we might achieve this season

Maybe it was the money he was allowed to spend on players, maybe it was those fantastic results against top opposition (and the Jacks ) or maybe (likely) it was combination of the two

Whichever, it is certainly becoming more and more apparent how fickle and short term many are and it worries me that those who sang his name 2 weeks ago are now calling for his head

Malky is already a 'hero' at Cardiff City Football Club (for what he has achieved so far) and given time I believe he can sort things out. However (as I said elsewhere) if Tan ever needed a 'window of opportunity' to get rid of him, then those supporters who sang those negative songs and called for him to go are making it very easy for him (Tan)

Like in the Dave Jones situation, only time will tell who is right and who is wrong, but it does make you wonder if ANY manager could actually satisfy some supporters of this club

The secret is.and Malky was spot on when he said it was not to make to much of the winning high's and losing low's.sadly with some fans and an owner who overreact at every result that was never going to happen,guess it's down to the computer age.

Ive lost faith in him totally. He isnt learning, thats the problem. He is as stubborn if not more so than DJ.

Spot on

Tan hasnt invested £50 million in players over the last 18 months to survive relegation by a point playing such unattractive football.

In order to get a return he wants the club to seem attractive to buyers and sponsors alike.

The fans may be happy but he wont and will act upon it long before it gets to that stage IMO. Malky is playing the worst brand of football the premier league has seen for a long time.

Currently going into one of the toughest 6 weeks we could ask uo against Liverpool, Man City, Chelsea, Tottenham and Man Utd for while averaging less than a point a game is not good.

50 m ..... Cool story man

Be Honest

Only 2 weeks ago Malky was a hero after the draw with Man United and only over a month ago a hero when we beat the Jacks, surely our fans should support him through the bad patches.


If we are where we are now in May 2014, we'll be having a party, with Malky on the top table...

Thats all we ever expected or wanted.

True or Not?

Yes. I'm backing him. Things aren't good at the moment, but he has done very well for us overall. He's a fighter and honourable man. I'm sure he can turn it around. Don't forget what he's had to put up with off the pitch. He deserves our patience and support - some of the ott criticism is shameful IMHO.

The criticism is justified

Not in my opinion.

I think many of you don't know how good you've got it.

Spolit by success. We expect loyalty from him-but many aren't prepared to give it back. The curse of the modern football fan.

'Don't sack Mackay' 1 minute, slagging off Tan for even considering it- 'sack him' the next, at least Tan HASN'T sacked him - seems he's got more loyalty and patience than many of our fans. Malky should be given the chance to put it right. 3 home games in the next 4.

7 points from these and opinions will change.

Just glad I don't work for the trigger happy fans on here.

Im not some Johnny come lately new fan. I do know how good we have it. I also believe we wont much longer with Malky as he has proved he will not change. There is no loyalty in football and if a bigger club came calling Malky would show no loyalty to us. Tan or anything else doesnt even factor in my decision over Malky.

As mentioned in above posts we are going into a tough 6 weeks we wont get any points in january away and will probably lose to west ham.

its looking very grim we needed at least 2-3 points this week from palace and stoke

we are going to get smashed in manchester, liverpool and arsenal and tottenham

It's True Annis, even if we survive this season on goal difference ,MM would have delivered what the majority of us want.

But isn't it also true that football is no longer a sport but a business, and would you expect any owner of a multi million pound business to sit back and do nothing whilst the source of the millions is at risk.

I simply cannot see Tan doing nothing about our situation and yesterday may well turn out to be the tipping point in respect of MM future with the club.

The biggest truth of all is that football is a results business and right now we don't look likely to get any positive results.

Hi Gary,

Yes if we stay up, Malky in my opinion will have achieved another great season in our history and is it not true that is what all the fans only asked for before the season started.

On the other part of your post, yes its sad, Tan now will get what he wants Malky gone pretty soon. Your right sadly football is now a business especially in the Premier League.

Be Honest

Only 2 weeks ago Malky was a hero after the draw with Man United and only over a month ago a hero when we beat the Jacks, surely our fans should support him through the bad patches.


If we are where we are now in May 2014, we'll be having a party, with Malky on the top table...

Thats all we ever expected or wanted.

True or Not?

If this board is anything to go off there is not that much loyalty to the manager amongst our fanbase. I find it embarrassing how quickly so many can turn on the guy. It's not as if we are adrift at the bottom . We are not even in the bottom 3 ffs! Mm deserves a full season , and for those who have turned already, surely we should wait and see what our 3 homes over Xmas have in store . They are now huge games.

With regards your comments re after season party annis, I don't believe that is the case . Honestly think some of our fans think we have a god given right to be comfortable in mid table. I would settle for 17th place in this season and the next 2.

Roll on Xmas drink next week . Blue army !

Be Honest

Only 2 weeks ago Malky was a hero after the draw with Man United and only over a month ago a hero when we beat the Jacks, surely our fans should support him through the bad patches.


If we are where we are now in May 2014, we'll be having a party, with Malky on the top table...

Thats all we ever expected or wanted.

True or Not?

Annis, for THIS season I believe that to be TRUE and most supporters stated that before the season opened

Unfortunately, Malky has almost become a victim of his own early success in the Premier League and many (certainly not all) began having unrealistic expectations of what we might achieve this season

Maybe it was the money he was allowed to spend on players, maybe it was those fantastic results against top opposition (and the Jacks ) or maybe (likely) it was combination of the two

Whichever, it is certainly becoming more and more apparent how fickle and short term many are and it worries me that those who sang his name 2 weeks ago are now calling for his head

Malky is already a 'hero' at Cardiff City Football Club (for what he has achieved so far) and given time I believe he can sort things out. However (as I said elsewhere) if Tan ever needed a 'window of opportunity' to get rid of him, then those supporters who sang those negative songs and called for him to go are making it very easy for him (Tan)

Like in the Dave Jones situation, only time will tell who is right and who is wrong, but it does make you wonder if ANY manager could actually satisfy some supporters of this club

Chris, your right Malky has become a victim of his own success, but I honestly cant believe how quick our fans have turned on him

Be Honest

Only 2 weeks ago Malky was a hero after the draw with Man United and only over a month ago a hero when we beat the Jacks, surely our fans should support him through the bad patches.


If we are where we are now in May 2014, we'll be having a party, with Malky on the top table...

Thats all we ever expected or wanted.

True or Not?

Yes. I'm backing him. Things aren't good at the moment, but he has done very well for us overall. He's a fighter and honourable man. I'm sure he can turn it around. Don't forget what he's had to put up with off the pitch. He deserves our patience and support - some of the ott criticism is shameful IMHO.

The criticism is justified

Not in my opinion.

I think many of you don't know how good you've got it.

Spolit by success. We expect loyalty from him-but many aren't prepared to give it back. The curse of the modern football fan.

'Don't sack Mackay' 1 minute, slagging off Tan for even considering it- 'sack him' the next, at least Tan HASN'T sacked him - seems he's got more loyalty and patience than many of our fans. Malky should be given the chance to put it right. 3 home games in the next 4.

7 points from these and opinions will change.

Just glad I don't work for the trigger happy fans on here.

Im not some Johnny come lately new fan. I do know how good we have it. I also believe we wont much longer with Malky as he has proved he will not change. There is no loyalty in football and if a bigger club came calling Malky would show no loyalty to us. Tan or anything else doesnt even factor in my decision over Malky.

Why should Malky change ? He's achieving what he should. We are in the prem and out of the bottom 3. What 'might' happen in the future remains to be seen, but right now he's achieving the target that most realistic fans set for him at the start of the season. You want him gone because either..

a. that's not good enough - ie. you don't realise he good we've got it..

or
b. you predict it's going to get worse. Well done Mystic Meg.

of course you are entitled to your opinion, but I'm also entitled to be disappointed by the lack of loyalty of fans like yourself to someone who has done so much for us and deserves better.


Also unless you've been going for well over 30 years is a newcomer to me , the last 12-15 years have been pretty much continuous success. 3 promotions, 2 cup finals and 10 years in the Championship.

It will be a huge party. But we need point on the board which means scoring goals to state the bleeding obvious. Next home game I would like to see 4 - 4 - 2,
KCT - Caulker - Turner - Taylor
Noone - Medel - Gunnerson - Bellers
Cornelius - Campbell

Yeah I'd agree there mate, after whitts/mutch/Kim performance against palace especially. Although since 4-5-1 has worked in most home games I can't really see malky changing it...

True,

On the other hand he needs to change to 2 up front.

When we played Stoke away, I thought for the last 15 mins we should have gone for it.
It would have been great to play Cornelius up front with Campbell.
Kim needs to play in central midfield and not out wide

I AGREE 100%

Be Honest

Only 2 weeks ago Malky was a hero after the draw with Man United and only over a month ago a hero when we beat the Jacks, surely our fans should support him through the bad patches.


If we are where we are now in May 2014, we'll be having a party, with Malky on the top table...

Thats all we ever expected or wanted.

True or Not?

Yes. I'm backing him. Things aren't good at the moment, but he has done very well for us overall. He's a fighter and honourable man. I'm sure he can turn it around. Don't forget what he's had to put up with off the pitch. He deserves our patience and support - some of the ott criticism is shameful IMHO.

Tim

Ignoring we all think he's a decent man and in return ignoring the results, I honestly don't think playing with no width with 5 central midfielders to a lone striker is the the mark of a manager who knows what he's doing.
I don't expect us to play like Arsenal. Far from it. But I'd be shocked if Tan allowed this to continue and even more surprised if he gave MM more funds.

Rob. he got it wrong yesterday no question, as he did 1st half at Norwich. However he got it RIGHT at Stoke and on many other occasions this year. Too early to pull the trigger yet. I bet fans elsewhere can't believe we are even discussing it.

I DISAGREE WITH ROB 100% - Malky should have had the forsight to change the team to win against Stoke in the last 20.

Be Honest

Only 2 weeks ago Malky was a hero after the draw with Man United and only over a month ago a hero when we beat the Jacks, surely our fans should support him through the bad patches.


If we are where we are now in May 2014, we'll be having a party, with Malky on the top table...

Thats all we ever expected or wanted.

True or Not?

Very True, I will back Malky 100% but starting to get worried,

And so you should be!! I think after crimbo we will be 19th at best! You can't play like we do in the premiership and not even a name for our game plan, attacking we score no goals? Defending we let to many goals in?

True. Its only 1 bad defeat, a point at stoke doesnt seem so bad now considering they just beat chelsea. A point from our 2 home games with man utd and arsenal? Not bad either, we played well. I guess its the manner of the defeat yesterday as out of the last 4 games yesterday was deemed most win-able by us, this is cardiff city though, arse backwards. i knew we'd blow it yesterday. Im amazed so many seem to forget. We really need Cornilius to be the man we hoped he would be.
ps
i love the way a few jacks have appeared back on here, talk about crawling out from under the stone for the last month, one bad game and look who's out.....maybe we should remind them of their 2nd half capitulation a month ago....

We were well beaten that day, two poor teams, on the day you came out a deserved winners . However Malky needs the support you should give he sole aim is to keep you in this league this season and that is it.

I have always backed Malky but the game and tactics were just awful, We are slipping down the table and he needs to change something.

If we don't win Saturday I won't be to worried to see him go tbh. Surly he knows we must attack these teams? Noone and Bellers on!

PART of the reason is that people did not like his style of football last year and just put up with it assuming it was the way you had to play to get out of that league UNFORTUNATELY Malky wants to play the same in this league and he does not seem to be learning by mistakes You can not defend continuously in this league like we do as the strikers on the opposing side are sharper and quicker and will punish you a lot more And lets be honeat he had money given to him last year and again a lot of money given to him this year I am not saying he is a bad manager but i do not think he is the ideal manager For Cardiff city at this present time I have always been 50 .50 on Malky but really believe he should not be given a lot more time to show results THE ONLY excuse i will say for him is that i think he may have wanted to play more attacking but was unable to bring in the players he needed to play that way

We are nearly always last on MOTD, we are probably the least attractive team in the division.

We had two chances yesterday, if the chamak goal had fallen to us we wouldn't have had a forward within 10 metres of the ball.

Malkys tactics are not working in the premier league. Pulis schooled him yesterday, he knew how we would set up and totally bypassed our 5 man central midfield. 57% possession meant nothing with gaping gaps between Campbell and the midfield. The game is about scoring goals

We were on first last Saturday

Be Honest

Only 2 weeks ago Malky was a hero after the draw with Man United and only over a month ago a hero when we beat the Jacks, surely our fans should support him through the bad patches.


If we are where we are now in May 2014, we'll be having a party, with Malky on the top table...

Thats all we ever expected or wanted.

True or Not?

The main issue is the points against Man U/Man City were what I call freebies, expected nothing gained four take those two results away and we would be bottom and looking dead and buried, the Swansea win would always be blown out of proportion being a derby. Our displays against some of the so-called lesser premier teams have been shocking except for the Fulham result.game.

We are nearly always last on MOTD, we are probably the least attractive team in the division.

We had two chances yesterday, if the chamak goal had fallen to us we wouldn't have had a forward within 10 metres of the ball.

Malkys tactics are not working in the premier league. Pulis schooled him yesterday, he knew how we would set up and totally bypassed our 5 man central midfield. 57% possession meant nothing with gaping gaps between Campbell and the midfield. The game is about scoring goals

Couldn't agree more. True, we aren't in the poop just yet, but we are slowly sliding down there and need to buck our ideas up fast. With Liverpool, Arsenal and both Manchester clubs to come in the next 6 or 7 weeks, we can't afford to be losing points to the likes of Palace.

Be Honest

Only 2 weeks ago Malky was a hero after the draw with Man United and only over a month ago a hero when we beat the Jacks, surely our fans should support him through the bad patches.


If we are where we are now in May 2014, we'll be having a party, with Malky on the top table...

Thats all we ever expected or wanted.

True or Not?

TRUE

True

Be Honest

Only 2 weeks ago Malky was a hero after the draw with Man United and only over a month ago a hero when we beat the Jacks, surely our fans should support him through the bad patches.


If we are where we are now in May 2014, we'll be having a party, with Malky on the top table...

Thats all we ever expected or wanted.

True or Not?

Very true Annis.Malky will pull us through.Give him time.

Be Honest

Only 2 weeks ago Malky was a hero after the draw with Man United and only over a month ago a hero when we beat the Jacks, surely our fans should support him through the bad patches.


If we are where we are now in May 2014, we'll be having a party, with Malky on the top table...

Thats all we ever expected or wanted.

True or Not?

got to agree annis...but we got a long way to go and things really do have to improve.......and the honest answer to your original question....id be over the moon to finish in 17th position...