OT - Drakeford needs to really examine his priorities

[Mulberry]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-62258709

Drakeford claiming that he needs to justify farming subsidies to Bangladeshi taxi drivers in Riverside who question why should their taxes go towards these subsidies....

Erm... Welsh farmers bring food to the table, Bangladeshi taxi drivers... a beaten up Datsun Sunny, with a bead seat cover and decorative tissue box in the back window.

No competition in my view. Drakeford needs a bloody labotomy.

[CityBlue93]

I grew up in a farming area of Wales and every single farming family was VERY well off, range rovers for the kids once they reach 17 years old type families...Millions of pounds in property passed down between generations, so I do think farming subsidies need to be scrutinised as many simply do not need their farms to be subsidised.

I'm not sure what the f**k Drakeford is on about with this quote mind and where Bangladeshi taxi drivers come into it but if he had rephrased it to 'working class people in Cardiff' I'd agree with his statement.

[bluebird1972]

I could not believe what I was hearing this morning

[davids]

Come autumn and that prick's priority will be to lockdown Wales again as much as he can whilst slagging off the Westminster government for not paying for it.

[JulesK]

I grew up in a farming area of Wales and every single farming family was VERY well off, range rovers for the kids once they reach 17 years old type families...Millions of pounds in property passed down between generations, so I do think farming subsidies need to be scrutinised as many simply do not need their farms to be subsidised.

I'm not sure what the f**k Drakeford is on about with this quote mind and where Bangladeshi taxi drivers come into it but if he had rephrased it to 'working class people in Cardiff' I'd agree with his statement.

After TB not all mate.

[Tonteg Bluebird]

I grew up in a farming area of Wales and every single farming family was VERY well off, range rovers for the kids once they reach 17 years old type families...Millions of pounds in property passed down between generations, so I do think farming subsidies need to be scrutinised as many simply do not need their farms to be subsidised.

I'm not sure what the f**k Drakeford is on about with this quote mind and where Bangladeshi taxi drivers come into it but if he had rephrased it to 'working class people in Cardiff' I'd agree with his statement.

I'm not doubting what you're saying, but that was then and this is now.

Currently, the farming industry is getting attacked by the Government's globally, like never before.

Last summer, 90% of the Californian reservoir was drained directly into the sea.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-27- ... oirs.html#

That's one of several examples with their agenda to force farmers and others living in rural areas to give in, sell up and relocate into the cities. Bill Gates is now the US largest private farmland owner, it's funny how he always seems to be ideally placed to capitalise.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... s-farmland

Our UK Government are offering incentives for farmers to sell up their land, offering a lump sum exit scheme.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... om-farming

The Financial Times recently stated English farmers will be paid up to £100,000 to retire, to free up land for "new entrants".
https://www.ft.com/content/4d4bbf25-97c ... c0b165f52e

The Dutch and German farmers are protesting massively, with farmers from other countries starting to join the protests. Dutch and German farmers recently met at the border, shook hands, exchanged flags and protested together.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/16 ... mark-rutte

Drakeford is just another Western puppet playing into the Globalists agenda. I believe the British farmers are going to be joining the Dutch and German farmers soon, revolting over the planned takeover and redistribution of their land.

Of course, Bill Gates is selling lots of his land to China, with this recent purchase being highly suspicious.
https://nypost.com/2022/07/19/bill-gate ... -farmland/

It's no coincidence we have suddenly started seeing the threat of food shortages and every fast food chain simultaneously offering plant based alternatives.

The farming industry is under a global attack which will drastically change the way we have to live and survive. In my opinion, we better start becoming very aware of this.

[pembroke allan]

Since when as drakeford needed to justify anything to anyone? He simply does what he wants as theres no one to stop him at the den of delinquents called the senedd .

[stickywicket]

Since when as drakeford needed to justify anything to anyone? He simply does what he wants as theres no one to stop him at the den of delinquents called the senedd .

Why should farmers be subsidised. If they can't make a living from farming there's loads of jobs about.
Bus drivers, airport baggage handlers etc etc.
Plus you've got the guy who owns Tara Bridgend looking for£1.5billion for 2 new furnaces.
The UK just can't afford this kind of money. Truss needs the dough for Tax cuts.
The U. K is a free market economy not a Socialist Republic.

[pembroke allan]

Since when as drakeford needed to justify anything to anyone? He simply does what he wants as theres no one to stop him at the den of delinquents called the senedd .

Why should farmers be subsidised. If they can't make a living from farming there's loads of jobs about.
Bus drivers, airport baggage handlers etc etc.
Plus you've got the guy who owns Tara Bridgend looking for£1.5billion for 2 new furnaces.
The UK just can't afford this kind of money. Truss needs the dough for Tax cuts.
The U. K is a free market economy not a Socialist Republic.

Farmers have been subsidised for millions of years all over Europe ... need it to allow them to vary the amount crops can grow you simply cannot grow crops every year in same fields not viable so income does vary year to year .... time for farmers
to diversify and not rely on subsidies? but not really sure why the pillock even mentioned it or using Bangladeshi taxi drivers as example? Hes an idiot of a politician.

[C. Rombie-Coat]

The UK, like the rest of the West and unbelievably the USA is less and less a free market economy and more and more of a corporate state. It will get worse.

Drakeford’s priorities are certainly not yours.

As to farmers, I would suggest that food for the nation is worthy of subsidy. It’s better than importing –greener, if that’s your thing -and retains jobs and industry in the UK. Culturally it’s beneficial. There are all kinds of positives.

As to Bangladeshi taxi drivers, if they went here they wouldn’t be missed.

[Welshman in CA]

Just like 99% of politicians his priorities are 1. Himself 2. Himself & 3. Himself. The biggest shock is that anyone believes otherwise.

[Sludge]

Bangladeshi taxi drivers wouldn't be missed ?

The night time economy of Cardiff would collapse ! All you valleys boys would be walking home

You certainly wouldn't have the locals doing it

[castleblue]

Never mind Bangladeshi taxi drivers I think it's about time Drakeford and his looney left cronies are held to account by the Welsh people for the £m's they are wasting each year on various bodies which are set up and then shut down because the WAG don't like what they tell them.

It's like the "Regulatory Board For Wales" which was set up in January 1st 2020 to advise the WAG on Housing Policy in Wales. It was set up under the department for Climate Change and the minister appointed Mr Deep Sagar as chair of the committee.

Now Mr Sagar is an interesting character and is regarded by some as a "Quango crat" as he has worked on so many of these types of regulatory bodies throughout the UK, He has worked for the WAG on previous occasions in the Welsh Audit office and Welsh Government Sector Panel, advanced manufacturing and materials. Very big on Public Service Appointments and believe me he is not working for £5 a week plus expenses but the costs are easily hidden under the WAG department for Climate Change. Anyway last week the Minister For Climate Change has decided to "Dissolve" the board but are giving no reason Why? But the Minister has made this announcement.

"The minister for climate change has agreed to dissolve the existing Regulatory Board for Wales and commission a work programme to make recommendations on the role, purpose and governance arrangements for a new advisory body."


Surely the Regulatory Board set up only 18 months ago had a clear mission set out for it - surely but apparently not. So what was the cost of setting it up and run it for 18 months? and why has a decision to dissolve it been taken after it submitted it's report and recommendations on it's findings. In particular the way in which WAG supported Housing Associations are being funded and supported by the Minister's Staff. It stinks.

Back in 2004 when the then First Minister Rhodri Morgan closed the Welsh Development Agency, Welsh Tourist Board and Education and Learning Wales Agency saying that it would end the Quango State as we know it. But 18 years on it's clear that "Quango Crats" like Deep Sagar are STILL being employed by this looney left Welsh Government which is doing a brilliant job of hiding the costs.

In my opinion in the last 18 years £m's has been poured down the drain on meaningless committees and the cost would make farming subsidies look like pocket money. I wonder what the Bangladeshi taxi drivers would make of that.

[Jock]

I grew up in a farming area of Wales and every single farming family was VERY well off, range rovers for the kids once they reach 17 years old type families...Millions of pounds in property passed down between generations, so I do think farming subsidies need to be scrutinised as many simply do not need their farms to be subsidised.

I'm not sure what the f**k Drakeford is on about with this quote mind and where Bangladeshi taxi drivers come into it but if he had rephrased it to 'working class people in Cardiff' I'd agree with his statement.

I'm not doubting what you're saying, but that was then and this is now.

Currently, the farming industry is getting attacked by the Government's globally, like never before.

Last summer, 90% of the Californian reservoir was drained directly into the sea.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-27- ... oirs.html#

That's one of several examples with their agenda to force farmers and others living in rural areas to give in, sell up and relocate into the cities. Bill Gates is now the US largest private farmland owner, it's funny how he always seems to be ideally placed to capitalise.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... s-farmland

Our UK Government are offering incentives for farmers to sell up their land, offering a lump sum exit scheme.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... om-farming

The Financial Times recently stated English farmers will be paid up to £100,000 to retire, to free up land for "new entrants".
https://www.ft.com/content/4d4bbf25-97c ... c0b165f52e

The Dutch and German farmers are protesting massively, with farmers from other countries starting to join the protests. Dutch and German farmers recently met at the border, shook hands, exchanged flags and protested together.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/16 ... mark-rutte

Drakeford is just another Western puppet playing into the Globalists agenda. I believe the British farmers are going to be joining the Dutch and German farmers soon, revolting over the planned takeover and redistribution of their land.

Of course, Bill Gates is selling lots of his land to China, with this recent purchase being highly suspicious.
https://nypost.com/2022/07/19/bill-gate ... -farmland/

It's no coincidence we have suddenly started seeing the threat of food shortages and every fast food chain simultaneously offering plant based alternatives.

The farming industry is under a global attack which will drastically change the way we have to live and survive. In my opinion, we better start becoming very aware of this.

Spot on

[pipster]

Weve got lots of sheep and cows, surely to God we can make milk, cheese, eggs, beef etc and be able to sell it without having to use sibsidies etc ?

It's easy to show a loss in your accounts if you want to - just buy loads odf new machinerery , work on your land, put up new fences - then on paper you will be striuggling to make any money.

Time and motion study perhaps ?

[robjohn]

Since when as drakeford needed to justify anything to anyone? He simply does what he wants as theres no one to stop him at the den of delinquents called the senedd .

spot on we are run by corrupt ideologues who have never represented me or anyone i know.
They are out of touch political numpties which is why we all have to drive 20 miles an hour and put up with bike lanes everywhere

[1980s Bluebird]

Since when as drakeford needed to justify anything to anyone? He simply does what he wants as theres no one to stop him at the den of delinquents called the senedd .

Why should farmers be subsidised. If they can't make a living from farming there's loads of jobs about.
Bus drivers, airport baggage handlers etc etc.
Plus you've got the guy who owns Tara Bridgend looking for£1.5billion for 2 new furnaces.
The UK just can't afford this kind of money. Truss needs the dough for Tax cuts.
The U. K is a free market economy not a Socialist Republic.

Do you know how many jobs throughout Wales not just Port Talbot Tata Steel holds, over 6,000. Feck foreign aid and feck pumping money into Ukraine, we should be securing this country's steel works, railways and decent working people livelihoods.

1.5 billion is peanuts considering we have agreed 1.7 billion to Ukraine for two frigates and missile craft.
Further 1 Billion in military support.
1 Billion in support for air defence system.
In total the UK alone has given 6.23 BILLION to Ukraine yet we wont sort our own steel works out!

The UK can afford it, you only have to research the profit banks and big cooperations are making, the UK government is abundtly rich and if you think otherwise then your head is up your arse.

[rumpo kid]

How much has it got?

[Tonteg Bluebird]

Bumping this thread because of the following - 3,000 Dutch farms getting closed down by the Dutch Government:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... government

I posted my thoughts further up in this thread and I stand by everything I've said. This attack on farmers isn't just happening in Wales with Drakeford. This is a coordinated attack on farmers globally.

We really need to start planning for our futures. This is just the beginning and our local communities need to unite and stand together.

[Jock]

Bumping this thread because of the following - 3,000 Dutch farms getting closed down by the Dutch Government:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... government

I posted my thoughts further up in this thread and I stand by everything I've said. This attack on farmers isn't just happening in Wales with Drakeford. This is a coordinated attack on farmers globally.

We really need to start planning for our futures. This is just the beginning and our local communities need to unite and stand together.

Single biggest owner of agricultural land in America is Bill Gates, the billionaire sociopaths want to control every aspect of our lives.

[Tonteg Bluebird]

Bumping this thread after the protests today.

Go on the farmers!!

[TopCat CCFC]

Bumping this thread after the protests today.

Go on the farmers!!

[oohahhPaulMillar]

Biggest protests in decades in Wales and where is our First Minister….in Brussels miles away from the action

He is an incompetent coward unable to cope with any sort of criticism or conflict

[pembroke allan]

Think drakeford is an incompetent leader wait until gethin gets in? he's mired in dodgy dealings and is lot more inept than drakeford! As for farmers near me 4 fields of daffodils been there 2 yrs but only pick couple dozen from one field this and last year..believe farmers get paid for planting or leaving fields empty, wait for shortage of veg as fields are under water here and have been for weeks.

[Jock]

Think drakeford is an incompetent leader wait until gethin gets in? he's mired in dodgy dealings and is lot more inept than drakeford! As for farmers near me 4 fields of daffodils been there 2 yrs but only pick couple dozen from one field this and last year..believe farmers get paid for planting or leaving fields empty, wait for shortage of veg as fields are under water here and have been for weeks.

He’s accepted a £200K donation from a recycling company, the budget for green scams, in Wales, runs into the billions. I wonder if the two things could possibly be connected.

[pembroke allan]

Think drakeford is an incompetent leader wait until gethin gets in? he's mired in dodgy dealings and is lot more inept than drakeford! As for farmers near me 4 fields of daffodils been there 2 yrs but only pick couple dozen from one field this and last year..believe farmers get paid for planting or leaving fields empty, wait for shortage of veg as fields are under water here and have been for weeks.

He’s accepted a £200K donation from a recycling company, the budget for green scams, in Wales, runs into the billions. I wonder if the two things could possibly be connected.

The company involved want to build sola farm near to where defunked m4 relief Rd was planned just a coincidence as needs WG approval to go ahead? His nomination by union was done underhand so that rival couldn't be involved? God help us if he is 1st minister wouldn't trust him to make a cup of tea!

[stickywicket]

The £300,000 for farmers is taxpayers money.
They lost millions from Brexit.
Farmers plead poverty .They have property handed down from generation to generation.
they drive new tractors,4x4s and use red diesel.
Most farmers have trees on there land,so would not be started from scratch,e.g. if a farmer has 5% trees on his land he would only need to add 5%.
Personally I would rather the money spent on the NHS.I'm vegan but I used to buy Welsh dairy products,but they seem to be dearer. Which is odd as they come from down the road.

[ealing_ayatollah]

I grew up in a farming area of Wales and every single farming family was VERY well off, range rovers for the kids once they reach 17 years old type families...Millions of pounds in property passed down between generations, so I do think farming subsidies need to be scrutinised as many simply do not need their farms to be subsidised.

I'm not sure what the f**k Drakeford is on about with this quote mind and where Bangladeshi taxi drivers come into it but if he had rephrased it to 'working class people in Cardiff' I'd agree with his statement.

I'm not doubting what you're saying, but that was then and this is now.

Currently, the farming industry is getting attacked by the Government's globally, like never before.

Last summer, 90% of the Californian reservoir was drained directly into the sea.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-27- ... oirs.html#

That's one of several examples with their agenda to force farmers and others living in rural areas to give in, sell up and relocate into the cities. Bill Gates is now the US largest private farmland owner, it's funny how he always seems to be ideally placed to capitalise.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... s-farmland

Our UK Government are offering incentives for farmers to sell up their land, offering a lump sum exit scheme.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... om-farming

The Financial Times recently stated English farmers will be paid up to £100,000 to retire, to free up land for "new entrants".
https://www.ft.com/content/4d4bbf25-97c ... c0b165f52e

The Dutch and German farmers are protesting massively, with farmers from other countries starting to join the protests. Dutch and German farmers recently met at the border, shook hands, exchanged flags and protested together.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/16 ... mark-rutte

Drakeford is just another Western puppet playing into the Globalists agenda. I believe the British farmers are going to be joining the Dutch and German farmers soon, revolting over the planned takeover and redistribution of their land.

Of course, Bill Gates is selling lots of his land to China, with this recent purchase being highly suspicious.
https://nypost.com/2022/07/19/bill-gate ... -farmland/

It's no coincidence we have suddenly started seeing the threat of food shortages and every fast food chain simultaneously offering plant based alternatives.

The farming industry is under a global attack which will drastically change the way we have to live and survive. In my opinion, we better start becoming very aware of this.

This was shown to kids in schools a decade ago.

Whoever produced this either had a crystal ball or knew what was coming.

Maybe it's just a decent extrapolation of where we would end up, but the nods to limited car travel, meat as a luxury, remote working, smart cities, 15-minute cities, limited movement & virtual holidays, and even little things like electric scooters getting mentioned, its a little too on the money to my conspiracy addled brain.

It's eerily accurate in terms of small aspects we are beginning to take for granted today and predicting the issues we are just beginning to see emerge (like food shortages)



I've said it before... for those who choose to see what is coming, it's painfully obvious. For those who choose not to, well, you can't say you weren't told; the globalists have been stating their intentions openly for decades.

[Sven]

I grew up in a farming area of Wales and every single farming family was VERY well off, range rovers for the kids once they reach 17 years old type families...Millions of pounds in property passed down between generations, so I do think farming subsidies need to be scrutinised as many simply do not need their farms to be subsidised.

I'm not sure what the f**k Drakeford is on about with this quote mind and where Bangladeshi taxi drivers come into it but if he had rephrased it to 'working class people in Cardiff' I'd agree with his statement.

I'm not doubting what you're saying, but that was then and this is now.

Currently, the farming industry is getting attacked by the Government's globally, like never before.

Last summer, 90% of the Californian reservoir was drained directly into the sea.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-27- ... oirs.html#

That's one of several examples with their agenda to force farmers and others living in rural areas to give in, sell up and relocate into the cities. Bill Gates is now the US largest private farmland owner, it's funny how he always seems to be ideally placed to capitalise.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... s-farmland

Our UK Government are offering incentives for farmers to sell up their land, offering a lump sum exit scheme.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... om-farming

The Financial Times recently stated English farmers will be paid up to £100,000 to retire, to free up land for "new entrants".
https://www.ft.com/content/4d4bbf25-97c ... c0b165f52e

The Dutch and German farmers are protesting massively, with farmers from other countries starting to join the protests. Dutch and German farmers recently met at the border, shook hands, exchanged flags and protested together.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/16 ... mark-rutte

Drakeford is just another Western puppet playing into the Globalists agenda. I believe the British farmers are going to be joining the Dutch and German farmers soon, revolting over the planned takeover and redistribution of their land.

Of course, Bill Gates is selling lots of his land to China, with this recent purchase being highly suspicious.
https://nypost.com/2022/07/19/bill-gate ... -farmland/

It's no coincidence we have suddenly started seeing the threat of food shortages and every fast food chain simultaneously offering plant based alternatives.

The farming industry is under a global attack which will drastically change the way we have to live and survive. In my opinion, we better start becoming very aware of this.

Spot on

I agree!

I think Drakeford has slighted the Bangladeshi community in Cardiff by singling them out with his comments; but he can do it because there is no real opoosition to Labour in Wales, and the voters, i.e. us, don't have the gumption to give them the proverbial 'bloody nose' come the next election

[Jock]

I grew up in a farming area of Wales and every single farming family was VERY well off, range rovers for the kids once they reach 17 years old type families...Millions of pounds in property passed down between generations, so I do think farming subsidies need to be scrutinised as many simply do not need their farms to be subsidised.

I'm not sure what the f**k Drakeford is on about with this quote mind and where Bangladeshi taxi drivers come into it but if he had rephrased it to 'working class people in Cardiff' I'd agree with his statement.

I'm not doubting what you're saying, but that was then and this is now.

Currently, the farming industry is getting attacked by the Government's globally, like never before.

Last summer, 90% of the Californian reservoir was drained directly into the sea.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-27- ... oirs.html#

That's one of several examples with their agenda to force farmers and others living in rural areas to give in, sell up and relocate into the cities. Bill Gates is now the US largest private farmland owner, it's funny how he always seems to be ideally placed to capitalise.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... s-farmland

Our UK Government are offering incentives for farmers to sell up their land, offering a lump sum exit scheme.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... om-farming

The Financial Times recently stated English farmers will be paid up to £100,000 to retire, to free up land for "new entrants".
https://www.ft.com/content/4d4bbf25-97c ... c0b165f52e

The Dutch and German farmers are protesting massively, with farmers from other countries starting to join the protests. Dutch and German farmers recently met at the border, shook hands, exchanged flags and protested together.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/16 ... mark-rutte

Drakeford is just another Western puppet playing into the Globalists agenda. I believe the British farmers are going to be joining the Dutch and German farmers soon, revolting over the planned takeover and redistribution of their land.

Of course, Bill Gates is selling lots of his land to China, with this recent purchase being highly suspicious.
https://nypost.com/2022/07/19/bill-gate ... -farmland/

It's no coincidence we have suddenly started seeing the threat of food shortages and every fast food chain simultaneously offering plant based alternatives.

The farming industry is under a global attack which will drastically change the way we have to live and survive. In my opinion, we better start becoming very aware of this.

Spot on

I agree!

I think Drakeford has slighted the Bangladeshi community in Cardiff by singling them out with his comments; but he can do it because there is no real opoosition to Labour in Wales, and the voters, i.e. us, don't have the gumption to give them the proverbial 'bloody nose' come the next election

Thing is the other parties are abysmal too. Time for revolution?