Forever Blue wrote:I have just read Mackays both sons are on Cardiff City’s books and Mackay brokering the deal on Dalman’s behalf.
Leon1927 wrote:I think you are referring to Willie McKay. Famous football agent. That is Mark’s dad. The aviation forum said that Willie McKay owned the plane. The truth will come out soon enough. The forum is worth a read. Concern over the pilot too.
Dahboy wrote:By at risk I mean he must have known how he was travelling if he arranged it. In that pathetic little plane travelling at night that far, and across the open sea?
snoopystorm wrote:I’m positive I read/heard in the many posts, topics, reports etc that the pilot was only an enthusiast/part time pilot whose day job was a gas fitter and was ‘rusty’ on ILS procedures..... surely he shouldn’t have been flying ‘charter’??
One of my mates has his pilots licence and I’ve seen what he’s had to go through to get it, even though he’s passed all exams he still has to log so many hours before he can take a passenger up other than an instructor
TopCat CCFC wrote:snoopystorm wrote:I’m positive I read/heard in the many posts, topics, reports etc that the pilot was only an enthusiast/part time pilot whose day job was a gas fitter and was ‘rusty’ on ILS procedures..... surely he shouldn’t have been flying ‘charter’??
One of my mates has his pilots licence and I’ve seen what he’s had to go through to get it, even though he’s passed all exams he still has to log so many hours before he can take a passenger up other than an instructor
I Agree with you -If Agent McKay was put in place to arrange the flight he must have had a say in who flew that plane !!!
Let's get in a gas fitter to take a record signing over that sea at a silly time with bad weather !!! SHOCKING !!!
Dahboy wrote:What's this I don't understand? Or am I missing something?
nojac wrote:If I'm wrong I am sorry.
But I believe it's all about money.
Cardiff city offered to arrange and pay for the flight,but it was declined.
The agent arranged the flight and would bill Cardiff city for it.
It seems to me costs were cut, but he would have billed the club thousands. Where as the flight would only cost hundreds.
Again if I'm wrong I apologise.
I assume this goes on all the time , and if it wasn't for this terrible tragedy no one would know.
But I do know , Tan,Dalman and Choo will not rest until the truth comes out .
celt_td wrote:nojac wrote:If I'm wrong I am sorry.
But I believe it's all about money.
Cardiff city offered to arrange and pay for the flight,but it was declined.
The agent arranged the flight and would bill Cardiff city for it.
It seems to me costs were cut, but he would have billed the club thousands. Where as the flight would only cost hundreds.
Again if I'm wrong I apologise.
I assume this goes on all the time , and if it wasn't for this terrible tragedy no one would know.
But I do know , Tan,Dalman and Choo will not rest until the truth comes out .
I agree that theres something dodgy going on but these agents are millionaires, surely they wouldnt do this for a few grand?
nojac wrote:If I'm wrong I am sorry.
But I believe it's all about money.
Cardiff city offered to arrange and pay for the flight,but it was declined.
The agent arranged the flight and would bill Cardiff city for it.
It seems to me costs were cut, but he would have billed the club thousands. Where as the flight would only cost hundreds.
Again if I'm wrong I apologise.
I assume this goes on all the time , and if it wasn't for this terrible tragedy no one would know.
But I do know , Tan,Dalman and Choo will not rest until the truth comes out .
Tony Blue Williams wrote:Arranging a flight doesn't mean someone is responsible for what could be a tragic accident. We need to know the full facts before making a conclusion.
paulh_85 wrote:nojac wrote:If I'm wrong I am sorry.
But I believe it's all about money.
Cardiff city offered to arrange and pay for the flight,but it was declined.
The agent arranged the flight and would bill Cardiff city for it.
It seems to me costs were cut, but he would have billed the club thousands. Where as the flight would only cost hundreds.
Again if I'm wrong I apologise.
I assume this goes on all the time , and if it wasn't for this terrible tragedy no one would know.
But I do know , Tan,Dalman and Choo will not rest until the truth comes out .
jesus.
cant go throwing shit like that around ffs
Tony Blue Williams wrote:Arranging a flight doesn't mean someone is responsible for what could be a tragic accident. We need to know the full facts before making a conclusion.
Dahboy wrote:paulh_85 wrote:nojac wrote:If I'm wrong I am sorry.
But I believe it's all about money.
Cardiff city offered to arrange and pay for the flight,but it was declined.
The agent arranged the flight and would bill Cardiff city for it.
It seems to me costs were cut, but he would have billed the club thousands. Where as the flight would only cost hundreds.
Again if I'm wrong I apologise.
I assume this goes on all the time , and if it wasn't for this terrible tragedy no one would know.
But I do know , Tan,Dalman and Choo will not rest until the truth comes out .
jesus.
cant go throwing shit like that around ffs
And he's probably right. I think this McKay has fucked up big time here. Just going on whats been said btw.
paulh_85 wrote:Dahboy wrote:paulh_85 wrote:nojac wrote:If I'm wrong I am sorry.
But I believe it's all about money.
Cardiff city offered to arrange and pay for the flight,but it was declined.
The agent arranged the flight and would bill Cardiff city for it.
It seems to me costs were cut, but he would have billed the club thousands. Where as the flight would only cost hundreds.
Again if I'm wrong I apologise.
I assume this goes on all the time , and if it wasn't for this terrible tragedy no one would know.
But I do know , Tan,Dalman and Choo will not rest until the truth comes out .
jesus.
cant go throwing shit like that around ffs
And he's probably right. I think this McKay has fucked up big time here. Just going on whats been said btw.
so you think its right to accuse the agent of trying to defraud the club?
the guy has come out and said he and his family dont own the plane, i dont really see how this is his fault.
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:paulh_85 wrote:Dahboy wrote:paulh_85 wrote:nojac wrote:If I'm wrong I am sorry.
But I believe it's all about money.
Cardiff city offered to arrange and pay for the flight,but it was declined.
The agent arranged the flight and would bill Cardiff city for it.
It seems to me costs were cut, but he would have billed the club thousands. Where as the flight would only cost hundreds.
Again if I'm wrong I apologise.
I assume this goes on all the time , and if it wasn't for this terrible tragedy no one would know.
But I do know , Tan,Dalman and Choo will not rest until the truth comes out .
jesus.
cant go throwing shit like that around ffs
And he's probably right. I think this McKay has fucked up big time here. Just going on whats been said btw.
so you think its right to accuse the agent of trying to defraud the club?
the guy has come out and said he and his family dont own the plane, i dont really see how this is his fault.
How do you think the agent came across this deal Paul? It’s not listed as a commercial fligh. The pilot is not registered. Not something you can google up. Not supporting that theory, but I’ve read something similar to how they go arround regulation on commercial flying. “Order something, and pay for something else”..
paulh_85 wrote:Dahboy wrote:paulh_85 wrote:nojac wrote:If I'm wrong I am sorry.
But I believe it's all about money.
Cardiff city offered to arrange and pay for the flight,but it was declined.
The agent arranged the flight and would bill Cardiff city for it.
It seems to me costs were cut, but he would have billed the club thousands. Where as the flight would only cost hundreds.
Again if I'm wrong I apologise.
I assume this goes on all the time , and if it wasn't for this terrible tragedy no one would know.
But I do know , Tan,Dalman and Choo will not rest until the truth comes out .
jesus.
cant go throwing shit like that around ffs
And he's probably right. I think this McKay has fucked up big time here. Just going on whats been said btw.
so you think its right to accuse the agent of trying to defraud the club?
the guy has come out and said he and his family dont own the plane, i dont really see how this is his fault.
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:paulh_85 wrote:Dahboy wrote:paulh_85 wrote:nojac wrote:If I'm wrong I am sorry.
But I believe it's all about money.
Cardiff city offered to arrange and pay for the flight,but it was declined.
The agent arranged the flight and would bill Cardiff city for it.
It seems to me costs were cut, but he would have billed the club thousands. Where as the flight would only cost hundreds.
Again if I'm wrong I apologise.
I assume this goes on all the time , and if it wasn't for this terrible tragedy no one would know.
But I do know , Tan,Dalman and Choo will not rest until the truth comes out .
jesus.
cant go throwing shit like that around ffs
And he's probably right. I think this McKay has fucked up big time here. Just going on whats been said btw.
so you think its right to accuse the agent of trying to defraud the club?
the guy has come out and said he and his family dont own the plane, i dont really see how this is his fault.
How do you think the agent came across this deal Paul? It’s not listed as a commercial fligh. The pilot is not registered. Not something you can google up. Not supporting that theory, but I’ve read something similar to how they go arround regulation on commercial flying. “Order something, and pay for something else”..
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