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murphy wrote:These 3 in Newport this week.
I've lost count of the amount of Muslims getting done for terror offences in Cardiff.
Also in the capital a couple we know a few have run off to fight for Isis with 1 thankfully getting killed over in Syria.
Just this year a 17yr old from Somewhere in RCT was changed with downloading terror material and plotting to run around Cardiff with knives stabbing people.
There's also been a ginger Muslim convert from Tredegar jailed for a terror offence.
I'm just waiting for the lefties to come on here saying 'radical Islam is not much of a problem, it's really the far right'.
Even though islamists are responsible for about 30 deaths in the U.K this year compared to just 1 by a right winged nutter which was really just a revenge attack.
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Steve since 62 wrote:Is there any doubt that all this is over the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan it never happened before this or is it only me that sees this connection
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Steve since 62 wrote:Yes for all terrorists the death penalty
Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:31 pm
Steve since 62 wrote:Is there any doubt that all this is over the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan it never happened before this or is it only me that sees this connection
Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:40 pm
murphy wrote:Steve since 62 wrote:Is there any doubt that all this is over the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan it never happened before this or is it only me that sees this connection
Suppose there is a connection because if Iraq hadn't been invaded and saddam was still in power, there would be no Isis.
However, if you are one of these who thinks these attacks would end if British troops pulled out of Muslim hell holes then you are mistaken.
Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:40 pm
Steve since 62 wrote:Yes for all terrorists the death penalty
Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:48 pm
Jock wrote:Steve since 62 wrote:Is there any doubt that all this is over the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan it never happened before this or is it only me that sees this connection
For such a self opinionated man your not very knowledgeable. Alqeda were carrying out attacks on Western targets since the early nineties. The stated aim of Islamists is to establish a Worldwide Caliphate under Sharia, that has not changed for almost 1500 years. You really haven't got a handle on this at all, why not research some facts from reliable sources and educate yourself on matters your going to opine on.
Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:49 pm
Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:49 pm
1980s Bluebird wrote:There is a massive connection, the vacuum that come about because of toppling people like Saddam, Gaddafi etc caused massive power vacuums that every nutter wanted to fill, nothing to do with religion but for power. This combined with a nut job of a few radicals and it all went tits up. The main cause being toppling Saddams Army then rather than give the GENERALS AND SOLDIERS JOBS IN A REWFORMED ARMY AND PAY THEM, WE SACKED THEM.
75% OF KNOWN PLAYERS AND TIER 1 TERRORISTS ARE EX Iraqi ARMY WHO WERE ANNOYED AT ALL OF A SUDDEN NOT HAVING A JOB SO THEY TOOK UP ARMS AGAINST THE WEST.
This combined with CIA trying to put in power their pawns had a massive effect. I COULD GO ON BUT WOULD PROBABLY BORE THE SHITE OUT OF YOU.
interestingly enough we see no foreign fighters piling in Myanmar to defend their fellow Muslims, nor do we see or hear the nut jobs you see on Beritish streets bumping their gums about ethnic cleansing, why, no money involved and they know the Myanmar government would wipe them out.
murphy wrote:Steve since 62 wrote:Is there any doubt that all this is over the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan it never happened before this or is it only me that sees this connection
Suppose there is a connection because if Iraq hadn't been invaded and saddam was still in power, there would be no Isis.
However, if you are one of these who thinks these attacks would end if British troops pulled out of Muslim hell holes then you are mistaken.
Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:50 pm
Steve since 62 wrote:Is there any doubt that all this is over the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan it never happened before this or is it only me that sees this connection
Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:57 pm
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1980s Bluebird wrote:AQ have only had an issue with the West since the US ENTERED Saudi in 1990 prior to Gulf War 1, AQ actually offered to defend Saudi from Saddam Hussein but the Saudi royal family refused and there beginneth the problem. Al Zawhari was the main instigator of attacks on the West.Jock wrote:Steve since 62 wrote:Is there any doubt that all this is over the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan it never happened before this or is it only me that sees this connection
For such a self opinionated man your not very knowledgeable. Alqeda were carrying out attacks on Western targets since the early nineties. The stated aim of Islamists is to establish a Worldwide Caliphate under Sharia, that has not changed for almost 1500 years. You really haven't got a handle on this at all, why not research some facts from reliable sources and educate yourself on matters your going to opine on.
Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:01 pm
1980s Bluebird wrote:I personally through research and many hours of it do not believe it is through religion, in particular in the UK it is the breakdown of our society and the disaffected (or as they see they are), the adventure of being a jihadist, the misinformation or radicalisation of preachers, who I may add try to convert but wont actually volunteer themselves up as suicide bombers, which believe it or not suicide bombing is the key tactic of the Tamil Tigers and used by them more.
Unfortunately we will no longer be able to contain it until we become utterly unforgiven in our approach in dealing with it.
Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:13 pm
Jock wrote:1980s Bluebird wrote:AQ have only had an issue with the West since the US ENTERED Saudi in 1990 prior to Gulf War 1, AQ actually offered to defend Saudi from Saddam Hussein but the Saudi royal family refused and there beginneth the problem. Al Zawhari was the main instigator of attacks on the West.Jock wrote:Steve since 62 wrote:Is there any doubt that all this is over the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan it never happened before this or is it only me that sees this connection
For such a self opinionated man your not very knowledgeable. Alqeda were carrying out attacks on Western targets since the early nineties. The stated aim of Islamists is to establish a Worldwide Caliphate under Sharia, that has not changed for almost 1500 years. You really haven't got a handle on this at all, why not research some facts from reliable sources and educate yourself on matters your going to opine on.
Alqeda wants to establish and expand a caliphate the same as Hamas, Al Shabab, Boko Haram and every other crackpot Islamist mob. That's why they exist.