Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:50 pm
Blue_Barber wrote:Some of the posts on this are lunacy -
1- deporting the muslims making it harder for muslims to migrate here?! Wtf is that other than race hate, the UK isn't solely a one faith country, that's exactly what extremism is, they want an x nation of x faith by holding such an an opinion aren't you as much an extremist as someone of a for example Muslim extremist, has it not occurred to you that extremism comes in all sorts of shapes forms and colours as suppose to religion?
NDL - extremism that want a solely white nation irrelevant to your faith.
IRA - extremism that's holds a sect of Christian faith and government rule
ISIS - extremism that's wanting a solely archaic view of Islamic faith to be apart of the lands they consider there own, while killing the true believers and trying to scare western and modern day communities in avoiding there people
Nazis - looking for a total world dominant super Christian religion
Crusades - looking to by force spread the word and force the religion of Christianity on a community
The narrow mindedness of people is what gets me, these people don't do it in the name of faith they are truly messed up individuals who can't be educated how do you beat that?!
Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:56 pm
Blue_Barber wrote:Some of the posts on this are lunacy -
1- deporting the muslims making it harder for muslims to migrate here?! Wtf is that other than race hate, the UK isn't solely a one faith country, that's exactly what extremism is, they want an x nation of x faith by holding such an an opinion aren't you as much an extremist as someone of a for example Muslim extremist, has it not occurred to you that extremism comes in all sorts of shapes forms and colours as suppose to religion?
NDL - extremism that want a solely white nation irrelevant to your faith.
IRA - extremism that's holds a sect of Christian faith and government rule
ISIS - extremism that's wanting a solely archaic view of Islamic faith to be apart of the lands they consider there own, while killing the true believers and trying to scare western and modern day communities in avoiding there people
Nazis - looking for a total world dominant super Christian religion
Crusades - looking to by force spread the word and force the religion of Christianity on a community
The narrow mindedness of people is what gets me, these people don't do it in the name of faith they are truly messed up individuals who can't be educated how do you beat that?!
Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:25 pm
Jock wrote:Blue_Barber wrote:Some of the posts on this are lunacy -
1- deporting the muslims making it harder for muslims to migrate here?! Wtf is that other than race hate, the UK isn't solely a one faith country, that's exactly what extremism is, they want an x nation of x faith by holding such an an opinion aren't you as much an extremist as someone of a for example Muslim extremist, has it not occurred to you that extremism comes in all sorts of shapes forms and colours as suppose to religion?
NDL - extremism that want a solely white nation irrelevant to your faith.
IRA - extremism that's holds a sect of Christian faith and government rule
ISIS - extremism that's wanting a solely archaic view of Islamic faith to be apart of the lands they consider there own, while killing the true believers and trying to scare western and modern day communities in avoiding there people
Nazis - looking for a total world dominant super Christian religion
Crusades - looking to by force spread the word and force the religion of Christianity on a community
The narrow mindedness of people is what gets me, these people don't do it in the name of faith they are truly messed up individuals who can't be educated how do you beat that?!
The IRA may have taken support from the Catholic population but it was never truly a religious war. ISIS are very different their who ethos is based on Koranic teaching, they have more n common with the Nazi super race mentality than the Provos.
Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:31 pm
Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:07 pm
Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:28 pm
Blue_Barber wrote:Jock wrote:Blue_Barber wrote:Some of the posts on this are lunacy -
1- deporting the muslims making it harder for muslims to migrate here?! Wtf is that other than race hate, the UK isn't solely a one faith country, that's exactly what extremism is, they want an x nation of x faith by holding such an an opinion aren't you as much an extremist as someone of a for example Muslim extremist, has it not occurred to you that extremism comes in all sorts of shapes forms and colours as suppose to religion?
NDL - extremism that want a solely white nation irrelevant to your faith.
IRA - extremism that's holds a sect of Christian faith and government rule
ISIS - extremism that's wanting a solely archaic view of Islamic faith to be apart of the lands they consider there own, while killing the true believers and trying to scare western and modern day communities in avoiding there people
Nazis - looking for a total world dominant super Christian religion
Crusades - looking to by force spread the word and force the religion of Christianity on a community
The narrow mindedness of people is what gets me, these people don't do it in the name of faith they are truly messed up individuals who can't be educated how do you beat that?!
The IRA may have taken support from the Catholic population but it was never truly a religious war. ISIS are very different their who ethos is based on Koranic teaching, they have more n common with the Nazi super race mentality than the Provos.
That's just not true, there is nothing in Koran that tells a Muslim to go an kill anyone who doesn't believe in their faith, that's the narrow mindedness in a nutshell.
Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:44 pm
Jock wrote:Blue_Barber wrote:Jock wrote:Blue_Barber wrote:
That's just not true, there is nothing in Koran that tells a Muslim to go an kill anyone who doesn't believe in their faith, that's the narrow mindedness in a nutshell.
Koran 8:12 I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, therefore strike off their heads
9:5 Slay the idolaters wherever you find them
9:73 Prophet make war on the unbelievers
5:51 take neither Jews of Christians as friends.
I could go on talking about Jizya etc but what's the point.
Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:44 pm
Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:04 pm
Blue_Barber wrote:And where are the extracts from other religious books / do you think every Muslim in a world of billions actually takes note of that - mate your small minded and afraid of something your clearly unable to understand
Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:13 pm
Trigger wrote:Jock wrote:Blue_Barber wrote:Jock wrote:Blue_Barber wrote:
That's just not true, there is nothing in Koran that tells a Muslim to go an kill anyone who doesn't believe in their faith, that's the narrow mindedness in a nutshell.
Koran 8:12 I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, therefore strike off their heads
9:5 Slay the idolaters wherever you find them
9:73 Prophet make war on the unbelievers
5:51 take neither Jews of Christians as friends.
I could go on talking about Jizya etc but what's the point.
And the Holy Bible DOESN'T have such blood curdling exhortations?
What about Exodus 35?
"Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the Lord: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death."
Before we start throwing stones let's get some perspective, shall we?
Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:16 pm
never mind throwing the stones, you made a statement, Jock answered with some facts which it seems you don't like, no one mentioned the Bible but hey don't let the facts get in the way of your version.
Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:50 pm
Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:02 pm
Trigger wrote:Jock wrote:Blue_Barber wrote:Jock wrote:Blue_Barber wrote:
That's just not true, there is nothing in Koran that tells a Muslim to go an kill anyone who doesn't believe in their faith, that's the narrow mindedness in a nutshell.
Koran 8:12 I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, therefore strike off their heads
9:5 Slay the idolaters wherever you find them
9:73 Prophet make war on the unbelievers
5:51 take neither Jews of Christians as friends.
I could go on talking about Jizya etc but what's the point.
And the Holy Bible DOESN'T have such blood curdling exhortations?
What about Exodus 35?
"Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the Lord: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death."
Before we start throwing stones let's get some perspective, shall we?
Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:16 pm
frazier wrote:Christianity went through a reformation which left the dark age stuff behind, islam needs a reformation now to drag it into the modern world.
Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:18 pm
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Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:22 pm
AfanBluebird wrote:"You're imaginary friend in the sky is not as good as my imarginary friend in the sky".
Every religion has its bad eggs, every country has its bad eggs.
Sadly the only winners from yesterday are the Extreme right wing groups such as EDL, BNP & Britian First who have just plastered Facebook And twitter with Anti-Muslim messages. I know many on this board support these groups, (seen a tommy Robinson post in this thread). Turns my stomach seeing such groups pray on a terrorist attack to spread their hate, rather than donate money and offer to help victims families, in which the Churches and Mosques have done (check further back in the thread for my post).
Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:38 pm
Jock wrote:AfanBluebird wrote:"You're imaginary friend in the sky is not as good as my imarginary friend in the sky".
Every religion has its bad eggs, every country has its bad eggs.
Sadly the only winners from yesterday are the Extreme right wing groups such as EDL, BNP & Britian First who have just plastered Facebook And twitter with Anti-Muslim messages. I know many on this board support these groups, (seen a tommy Robinson post in this thread). Turns my stomach seeing such groups pray on a terrorist attack to spread their hate, rather than donate money and offer to help victims families, in which the Churches and Mosques have done (check further back in the thread for my post).
Instead of doing the typical lefty thing and trying to associate those who see thing differently from yourself with Facist Groups try debating the issue. Google Tommy Robinsons Speech to the Oxford Union and his interview with Sikh Radio ,then tell me where he's wrong. The days of stifling debate by squealing Nazi, racist or Facist are gone mate, it's time for Real Politick and open, honest, pragmatic discussion. Starting point is banning the this has nothing to do with Islam lunacy.
Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:24 pm
murphy wrote:Jock wrote:AfanBluebird wrote:"You're imaginary friend in the sky is not as good as my imarginary friend in the sky".
Every religion has its bad eggs, every country has its bad eggs.
Sadly the only winners from yesterday are the Extreme right wing groups such as EDL, BNP & Britian First who have just plastered Facebook And twitter with Anti-Muslim messages. I know many on this board support these groups, (seen a tommy Robinson post in this thread). Turns my stomach seeing such groups pray on a terrorist attack to spread their hate, rather than donate money and offer to help victims families, in which the Churches and Mosques have done (check further back in the thread for my post).
Instead of doing the typical lefty thing and trying to associate those who see thing differently from yourself with Facist Groups try debating the issue. Google Tommy Robinsons Speech to the Oxford Union and his interview with Sikh Radio ,then tell me where he's wrong. The days of stifling debate by squealing Nazi, racist or Facist are gone mate, it's time for Real Politick and open, honest, pragmatic discussion. Starting point is banning the this has nothing to do with Islam lunacy.
Well said. These lefties seem to think just be nice in the aftermath of a terror attack and there won't be no more. With the Muslim population due to grow due thanks to continued migration and them breeding like rabbits, the future of Great Britain is going to be a very violent and unpleasant place. With or without the so called far right groups.
Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:02 pm
Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:26 am
Jock wrote:Blue_Barber wrote:Jock wrote:Blue_Barber wrote:Some of the posts on this are lunacy -
1- deporting the muslims making it harder for muslims to migrate here?! Wtf is that other than race hate, the UK isn't solely a one faith country, that's exactly what extremism is, they want an x nation of x faith by holding such an an opinion aren't you as much an extremist as someone of a for example Muslim extremist, has it not occurred to you that extremism comes in all sorts of shapes forms and colours as suppose to religion?
NDL - extremism that want a solely white nation irrelevant to your faith.
IRA - extremism that's holds a sect of Christian faith and government rule
ISIS - extremism that's wanting a solely archaic view of Islamic faith to be apart of the lands they consider there own, while killing the true believers and trying to scare western and modern day communities in avoiding there people
Nazis - looking for a total world dominant super Christian religion
Crusades - looking to by force spread the word and force the religion of Christianity on a community
The narrow mindedness of people is what gets me, these people don't do it in the name of faith they are truly messed up individuals who can't be educated how do you beat that?!
The IRA may have taken support from the Catholic population but it was never truly a religious war. ISIS are very different their who ethos is based on Koranic teaching, they have more n common with the Nazi super race mentality than the Provos.
That's just not true, there is nothing in Koran that tells a Muslim to go an kill anyone who doesn't believe in their faith, that's the narrow mindedness in a nutshell.
Koran 8:12 I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, therefore strike off their heads
9:5 Slay the idolaters wherever you find them
9:73 Prophet make war on the unbelievers
5:51 take neither Jews of Christians as friends.
I could go on talking about Jizya etc but what's the point.
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:21 pm
TopCat CCFC wrote:House in West Wales being searched tonight.
Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:34 pm
murphy wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:House in West Wales being searched tonight.
According to some media it was the terrorists mothers house somewhere in Carmarthenshire. She's white, his father was black and he converted to Islam.