Eradication of Gaming Machines In Bookmakers

Surely it's time ? A bookmakers used to be a nice place to take a break watch a few races .

Now you have to work around the scrotes who used to hang around Arcades with their dole money all day ?

Have decent bookmakers got this wrong ?

Topcat what's your stance on this ? Is it because of online betting that bookmakers now move into the arcade sector ?

It's taking the fun out of the trip to the bookmaker !

I agree with you Daya on this.

Bookmakers should be a place where people stand and see an event unfold or just pop in, place a bet and leave. Its more of a communal place to bet and see the outcome together for me. Used to love putting a bet on with my mates before football and if it came in you were laughing all day about it and your mates giving it the big'un saying you were lucky or a jammy git

Those machines, especially the roulette ones should be restricted to casino's of any size or over 18 arcades.

The sad thing is, bookies make a killing off them so they will be here to stay for sure.

I love the auzzie way of gambling, bookies in the pub, lets get that over here!

Agree with you both - one of the best bookies was the one in the hut next to the pub !

It's such a shame to see so much enjoyable tradition eradicate

The machines are a nightmare and totally spoil the trip to the bookie.

Malsters was a perfect example in the old days with the bookie out the back !

It's not going to happen I'm afraid. They are the most addictive machines and make the bookies 60% of their money now apparently. They are horrid things but are here to stay.

It's not going to happen I'm afraid. They are the most addictive machines and make the bookies 60% of their money now apparently. They are horrid things but are here to stay.

That's the end of the traditional trip to the bookmaker then I guess.

60 percent ? No wonder they have them , can't see the attraction myself .

Even have them in the service station these days ?

A service station was a stop off for a piss and cuppa once upon a time ?

Does anyone actually stop for a spin ???

I know people that have lost a load on them. But they have the mentality of 'I'll chuck a fiver in then walk away' but they don't lose a fiver lose £100 win a tenner then they think they are on a winning streak and don't walk away so still end up losing. Again horrid things but a bookies dream. They literally cannot lose.

I know people that have lost a load on them. But they have the mentality of 'I'll chuck a fiver in then walk away' but they don't lose a fiver lose £100 win a tenner then they think they are on a winning streak and don't walk away so still end up losing. Again horrid things but a bookies dream. They literally cannot lose.

Should be banned if that's the case which I have no doubt in believing you.

Many years ago when I was 16 I watched a pal at the time , cash his giro which was meant to last 14 days and spunk in one day on a fruit machine - couldn't believe he did it , watched him get thrown out of his digs and onto the street , I imagine those roulette machines are even worse !

Should only be in Casinos if at all is my opinion - is this why Casinos now have them in many cases instead of the human ? Better profit for casino owner too ?

I'd assume so, in the casino with humans people can use systems and betting limits have to be put in force to stop people, on the machines it's a fix so if they want it to be red 12 times in a row in will be. It's something like an 90% pay out with them. So for every £100 that goes in only £90 comes back out. But basically for every 10 guys that go on there and lose one person will get a big payout. It just hooks people to the extent it can bankrupt them

All bookmakers should be shut down on the high street. Licenced casinos only.

I know people that have lost a load on them. But they have the mentality of 'I'll chuck a fiver in then walk away' but they don't lose a fiver lose £100 win a tenner then they think they are on a winning streak and don't walk away so still end up losing. Again horrid things but a bookies dream. They literally cannot lose.

Should be banned if that's the case which I have no doubt in believing you.

Many years ago when I was 16 I watched a pal at the time , cash his giro which was meant to last 14 days and spunk in one day on a fruit machine - couldn't believe he did it , watched him get thrown out of his digs and onto the street , I imagine those roulette machines are even worse !

Should only be in Casinos if at all is my opinion - is this why Casinos now have them in many cases instead of the human ? Better profit for casino owner too ?

The human ones are much easier to win on. Have won a couple of hundred pounds of a fiver in a casino in Manchester. Roulette this is. I don't usually gamble but this was a one off trip up to Manchester so thought may as well. Only other time I gamble is my weekly £1 accumulator I do instead of the lottery.

I have seen people lose decent money within seconds on roulette machines in bookies. It's quite sad but even sadder when they come out with the 'I'll make it back next time' gibberish. You'll never be up on those things if you keep playing them and playing them. The only people who will stay up on them are the ones who win big playing on the odd occasion and never play again or don't for years. Unfortunately for every 1 of those who can just walk away after winning there are thousands who just simply can't and need to go back to try and win.

I hate the machines. They are all coded to do you over big time. The random chance variable on them is basically useless so you are essentially against something scripted to beat you. People who think that random factor is heavily involved are deluded.

This is why I won't touch them and why they will never be removed.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ction.html

Use them from time to time to do blackjack. Horrible things that should be banned, makes it too easy for people to lose all their money. I've always been careful when using them just spending a couple of quid each time I go in when placing bets for the footie.

Its now a place for immigrants to blow tax payers money, and smackheads to get warm and have free cups of coffees.

I'm just with a gaming company now who are putting a new pool table In. In the new year the government are bringing in new regs(less or no tax on the bigger jackpot machines). Not sure if this means the bookmakers too but the amount of cash that flows between them nowadays I would have thought the treasury would want a bigger piece of the pie, not smaller

As for your point, unfortunately you're right, but as long as they're getting played and you're over 18, they won't care who you are

i've never ever placed a bet, and long may that continue. the only time i've gambled is on those 2p machines they sometimes have in amusement parks, amazing how you can lose almost all your money and still feel like a winner if you win just one before you leave.

these places ruin lives

I learned my lesson at a young age with fruit machines, but I cringe at how much money a couple of my mates chuck away. Those games machines in the bookies are lethal, seen one mate leave himself skint for the rest of the month on his pay day!

We should bring in a system like Singapore, (my basic understanding, could be wrong) where you have to have a license to gamble, to get a license you have to have a certain income, and if at any point your family feel your gambling is getting too much, they can apply to have your license revoked. Seems like a fair system to me?

I write reviews on slot machines and online casino slots. It's crazy how dangerously addictive they are. I have lived with two gambling addicts in my life so I've not only seen the impact it can have but also the ease at which people can slip into addiction.

I don't really know whether it's viable to punish those that have a control on their use of them but I think there should perhaps be some sort of bet limit introduced and maybe players have to sign in to accounts to play and are only allowed to take so many spins. Ultimately, people need to take responsibility for their own actions but it's funny how slots are legal but crack isn't. Both can be equally devastating. We all know it's a tax issue though!

Surely it's time ? A bookmakers used to be a nice place to take a break watch a few races .

Now you have to work around the scrotes who used to hang around Arcades with their dole money all day ?

Have decent bookmakers got this wrong ?

Topcat what's your stance on this ? Is it because of online betting that bookmakers now move into the arcade sector ?

It's taking the fun out of the trip to the bookmaker !

Couldn't agree with you more!

When Chopra came back to the club I was talking to him at the training ground. He said he needed to go to the bank and asked me where the nearest one was. I said (in all innocence) that I don't know where one is up here but if you are going back to NP there is one in Canton. He asked me where abouts and again in all innocence I said I think it's right next door to the bookies. It was only afterwards that I realised what I said.