John Terry found guilty

Of racially abusing Anton Ferdinand. He gets a fine and a four match ban

Of racially abusing Anton Ferdinand. He gets a fine and a four match ban

But found NOT guilty in a Court of law.

He has not been found guilty of abusing ferdinand, he has been found guilty of using that language on a football pitch as its in the FA rules

Good!

We all know what he said even professional lip readers have said what we all know

so if he is guilty of using 'that kind of language on a football pitch' why isnt Anton Ferdinand facing the same charges?

so if he is guilty of using 'that kind of language on a football pitch' why isnt Anton Ferdinand facing the same charges?

Yes, I agree, why is Anton, not charged?

Terry was found not guilty in court because there were effectively no witnesses to what AF said to him. Terry admitted in court that he did say "You black c**t, you f**cking knobhead" but was only repeating what AF had said to him.

AF admitted that he had given Terry a dogs abuse about shagging Wayne Bridges girlfriend and nothing else. Ashley Cole gave evidence which basically said AF could have been saying words with either "Bridges or Black" in them. It was impossible to find Terry guilty, and give him a criminal record, without substantive prove that AF had not called him "A black c**t" and in fact only gave him abuse over shagging Bridges girlfriend.

The FA will look at things based on the "balance of probability" like is it more likely that AF would be calling Terry "a black c**t" or giving him abuse about Terry shagging Wayne Bridges girlfriend. Why would AF even think about calling Terry "A black c**t".

The FA have clearly taken the view that AF would be more likely to have given Terry the Wayne Brifge abuse and the responce of Terry was to give him vile racist abuse back. Well done to the FA I say.


Terry has been found out as a man capable of making vile racist comments and deserves everything he gets. As a footballer a fantastic player but as a man this whole case shows his true colours to us all.

so if he is guilty of using 'that kind of language on a football pitch' why isnt Anton Ferdinand facing the same charges?

Yes, I agree, why is Anton, not charged?

You want to know why annis, because that would be racist How the system works, one way movement

so if he is guilty of using 'that kind of language on a football pitch' why isnt Anton Ferdinand facing the same charges?

Because AF was giving Terry abuse about him shagging Wayne Bridges girlfriend whilst Terry decided to abuse him with vile racist comments.


100% got what he deserves in my opinion.

so if he is guilty of using 'that kind of language on a football pitch' why isnt Anton Ferdinand facing the same charges?

Because AF was giving Terry abuse about him shagging Wayne Bridges girlfriend whilst Terry decided to abuse him with vile racist comments.


100% got what he deserves in my opinion.

well a court of law will tell you otherwise that he was innocent of abusing Ferdinand.
now if you believe Terrys explanation that he was stating to Ferdinand that he did not call him 'blah blah blah', that would assume at some point Ferdinand came out with the same statement. So by right they both used the same language on a football pitch so they should both be charged.

We all know what he said even professional lip readers have said what we all know

lip readers deemed the first half of what terry said indecifrable

so if he is guilty of using 'that kind of language on a football pitch' why isnt Anton Ferdinand facing the same charges?

Because AF was giving Terry abuse about him shagging Wayne Bridges girlfriend whilst Terry decided to abuse him with vile racist comments.


100% got what he deserves in my opinion.

Did Terry tell you he called him it? Load of crap.

I wouldn't blame Terry if he quit football altogether. I agree with some of the above that why hasn't Ferdinand been charged with the same offence ?
But it now seems the FA is a higher court of the land than the court of law and that is a joke. But hey now a lot on here will be happy that Terry is guilty on the grounds he is white and you just don't like him.
I would not want any of you on a jury service.
JOHN TERRY IS INNOCENT THE COURT OF LAW WHICH GOVERNS OUR LANDS HAVE COME TO THIS CONCLUSION.

so if he is guilty of using 'that kind of language on a football pitch' why isnt Anton Ferdinand facing the same charges?

Because AF was giving Terry abuse about him shagging Wayne Bridges girlfriend whilst Terry decided to abuse him with vile racist comments.


100% got what he deserves in my opinion.

well a court of law will tell you otherwise that he was innocent of abusing Ferdinand.
now if you believe Terrys explanation that he was stating to Ferdinand that he did not call him 'blah blah blah', that would assume at some point Ferdinand came out with the same statement. So by right they both used the same language on a football pitch so they should both be charged.

Well having read the full judgement statement by the judge who heard the case against Terry two things are clear Terry called AF "A black c**t" which Terry admitted, but in the immediate aftermath of the game he denied this and later changed his statement to only repeating what AF said to him. Also AF admitted throughout that he had been giving Terry a dogs abuse about Terry shagging Wayne Bridges girlfriend but absolutely nothing with racist undertones.

Ashley Cole muddied the waters brilliantly for Terry by saying he saw AF say something which could have been "Bridges or black", but he never actually clearly heard what AF said. Little wonder Rio Ferdinand got upset by AC involvement.

AF never made any racist comments to Terry and therefore has no charge to answer. If it'swrong or against rules to abuse Terry for shagging a teammates girlfriend fair enough he is as guilty as charged.

so if he is guilty of using 'that kind of language on a football pitch' why isnt Anton Ferdinand facing the same charges?

Because AF was giving Terry abuse about him shagging Wayne Bridges girlfriend whilst Terry decided to abuse him with vile racist comments.


100% got what he deserves in my opinion.

Did Terry tell you he called him it? Load of crap.

No Terry admitted in court what he said and also to the FA investigation team.

Anton is just a baby. Whether Terry said it or not its all Antons fault.. such a f**king dick insulting Terry in a match.. childish. Anton done it so Rio would get in the team and make sure Terry has a chance, simple.

We all know what he said even professional lip readers have said what we all know

lip readers deemed the first half of what terry said indecifrable

Two lip readers, one for Terry and one for the prosecution both agreed that Terry said "You Black c**t - You f**king knobhead" in the direction of AF. This was accepted by the judge as "Fact". The only point which was did AF say the same words to Terry, which was his defence and the prosecution was unable to prove that to the judges satisfaction hence not guilty.

But Terry said the words and admitted this to both the courts and the FA but he attempted to muddy the waters by saying AF said them to him first.

Why on earth would AF call Terry "A black c**t"

Anton started it end of.

So the FA think they know better then a court of law does it...hmm..says it all about football really.

Anton is just a baby. Whether Terry said it or not its all Antons fault.. such a f**king dick insulting Terry in a match.. childish. Anton done it so Rio would get in the team and make sure Terry has a chance, simple.

So in the heat of a Premier League game AF thinks I know I'll trap Terry into making a racist statement so my brother will get in the England team.


Look Terry bought this on himself by shagging a teamates girlfriend, knocking her up, paying for the abortion and being found out. Should AF have been giving him abuse about it no, have AF actions brought the game into disrepute, yes but being charged with bringing the game into disrepute is that as bad as making racist comments.


Not in my book but if there is a charge AF should face than that's it.

We all know what he said even professional lip readers have said what we all know

lip readers deemed the first half of what terry said indecifrable

Two lip readers, one for Terry and one for the prosecution both agreed that Terry said "You Black c**t - You f**king knobhead" in the direction of AF. This was accepted by the judge as "Fact". The only point which was did AF say the same words to Terry, which was his defence and the prosecution was unable to prove that to the judges satisfaction hence not guilty.

But Terry said the words and admitted this to both the courts and the FA but he attempted to muddy the waters by saying AF said them to him first.

Why on earth would AF call Terry "A black c**t"

bit of an idiotic statement youve just made really.
now Terry made the point that he was stating that he didnt call AF a black c**t. He was responding to the accusation that he did call AF that. That assumes that AF asked JT did you just call me a 'black c**t? where JT replies. The case couldnt be proved in a court of law, so JT is innocent
Now this FA ruling should be based on what is stated by the referee, not by what we have seen on TV, otherwise you make the precedent 'say what you want to each other we dont care just make sure the camera isnt watching you'. If none of this is in the refs match report the FA shouldnt be able to charge him with anything. It stinks really and a desperate attempt to try and keep the FA's reputation clean and seen to be fighting racism.

nasty piece of shit

We all know what he said even professional lip readers have said what we all know

lip readers deemed the first half of what terry said indecifrable

Two lip readers, one for Terry and one for the prosecution both agreed that Terry said "You Black c**t - You f**king knobhead" in the direction of AF. This was accepted by the judge as "Fact". The only point which was did AF say the same words to Terry, which was his defence and the prosecution was unable to prove that to the judges satisfaction hence not guilty.

But Terry said the words and admitted this to both the courts and the FA but he attempted to muddy the waters by saying AF said them to him first.

Why on earth would AF call Terry "A black c**t"

bit of an idiotic statement youve just made really.
now Terry made the point that he was stating that he didnt call AF a black c**t. He was responding to the accusation that he did call AF that. That assumes that AF asked JT did you just call me a 'black c**t? where JT replies. The case couldnt be proved in a court of law, so JT is innocent
Now this FA ruling should be based on what is stated by the referee, not by what we have seen on TV, otherwise you make the precedent 'say what you want to each other we dont care just make sure the camera isnt watching you'. If none of this is in the refs match report the FA shouldnt be able to charge him with anything. It stinks really and a desperate attempt to try and keep the FA's reputation clean and seen to be fighting racism.

I don't think FIFA or the FA's reputation could get much dirtier then it already is. It's pretty clear to many that FIFA don't like the UK. If a boss came out and said some of the things Blatter has about England they would of been fired on the spot.

Why the hell have they charged him when he's been found not guilty in a court of law?

We all know what he said even professional lip readers have said what we all know

lip readers deemed the first half of what terry said indecifrable

Two lip readers, one for Terry and one for the prosecution both agreed that Terry said "You Black c**t - You f**king knobhead" in the direction of AF. This was accepted by the judge as "Fact". The only point which was did AF say the same words to Terry, which was his defence and the prosecution was unable to prove that to the judges satisfaction hence not guilty.

But Terry said the words and admitted this to both the courts and the FA but he attempted to muddy the waters by saying AF said them to him first.

Why on earth would AF call Terry "A black c**t"

bit of an idiotic statement youve just made really.
now Terry made the point that he was stating that he didnt call AF a black c**t. He was responding to the accusation that he did call AF that. That assumes that AF asked JT did you just call me a 'black c**t? where JT replies. The case couldnt be proved in a court of law, so JT is innocent
Now this FA ruling should be based on what is stated by the referee, not by what we have seen on TV, otherwise you make the precedent 'say what you want to each other we dont care just make sure the camera isnt watching you'. If none of this is in the refs match report the FA shouldnt be able to charge him with anything. It stinks really and a desperate attempt to try and keep the FA's reputation clean and seen to be fighting racism.

Read the judgement before you call anyone idiotic because Terry admits that he used the words "F**K Off" "F**K Off" "You Black C**t , you f**cking knobhead" .

The FA actually charged Terry with "with using abusive and/or insulting words and/or behaviour towards Queens Park Rangers’ Anton Ferdinand and which included a reference to colour and/or race contrary to FA Rule E3[2] in relation to the Queens Park Rangers FC versus Chelsea FC fixture at Loftus Road on 23 October 2011."

Now is calling someone a "black c**t or f**king knobhead" insulting and abusive ? and is there reference to colour and / or race ?

In court Terry was charged with using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour or disorderly behaviour within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress and the offence was racially aggravated in accordance with section 28 of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998, contrary to Section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986 and section 31(1)(c) and (5) of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998.

There was never any chance of Terry being found guilty of a racially aggravated offence and this matter should never ever have got to a court of the law.

His crime is that he has used abusive language which included reference to colour and /or race which is contrary to FA rules and after admitting he said the words he was always going to be found guilty.

Anton is just a baby. Whether Terry said it or not its all Antons fault.. such a f**king dick insulting Terry in a match.. childish. Anton done it so Rio would get in the team and make sure Terry has a chance, simple.

So in the heat of a Premier League game AF thinks I know I'll trap Terry into making a racist statement so my brother will get in the England team. < Yes thats correct.


Look Terry bought this on himself by shagging a teamates girlfriend, knocking her up, paying for the abortion and being found out. Should AF have been giving him abuse about it no, have AF actions brought the game into disrepute, yes but being charged with bringing the game into disrepute is that as bad as making racist comments.


Not in my book but if there is a charge AF should face than that's it.

We all know what he said even professional lip readers have said what we all know

lip readers deemed the first half of what terry said indecifrable

Two lip readers, one for Terry and one for the prosecution both agreed that Terry said "You Black c**t - You f**king knobhead" in the direction of AF. This was accepted by the judge as "Fact". The only point which was did AF say the same words to Terry, which was his defence and the prosecution was unable to prove that to the judges satisfaction hence not guilty.

But Terry said the words and admitted this to both the courts and the FA but he attempted to muddy the waters by saying AF said them to him first.

Why on earth would AF call Terry "A black c**t"

bit of an idiotic statement youve just made really.
now Terry made the point that he was stating that he didnt call AF a black c**t. He was responding to the accusation that he did call AF that. That assumes that AF asked JT did you just call me a 'black c**t? where JT replies. The case couldnt be proved in a court of law, so JT is innocent
Now this FA ruling should be based on what is stated by the referee, not by what we have seen on TV, otherwise you make the precedent 'say what you want to each other we dont care just make sure the camera isnt watching you'. If none of this is in the refs match report the FA shouldnt be able to charge him with anything. It stinks really and a desperate attempt to try and keep the FA's reputation clean and seen to be fighting racism.

Read the judgement before you call anyone idiotic because Terry admits that he used the words "F**K Off" "F**K Off" "You Black C**t , you f**cking knobhead" .

The FA actually charged Terry with "with using abusive and/or insulting words and/or behaviour towards Queens Park Rangers’ Anton Ferdinand and which included a reference to colour and/or race contrary to FA Rule E3[2] in relation to the Queens Park Rangers FC versus Chelsea FC fixture at Loftus Road on 23 October 2011."

Now is calling someone a "black c**t or f**king knobhead" insulting and abusive ? and is there reference to colour and / or race ?

In court Terry was charged with using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour or disorderly behaviour within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress and the offence was racially aggravated in accordance with section 28 of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998, contrary to Section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986 and section 31(1)(c) and (5) of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998.

There was never any chance of Terry being found guilty of a racially aggravated offence and this matter should never ever have got to a court of the law.

His crime is that he has used abusive language which included reference to colour and /or race which is contrary to FA rules and after admitting he said the words he was always going to be found guilty.

So did AF if you believe JT statement so again ill ask why isnt AF up on the same FA charge or is it just because what AF said wasnt in front of a TV camera in which case the FA should change their rules stating 'say what you want but be careful of TV cameras. Simple when you look at it really. FA rulings are based on the thoughts of the referee and assistants not TV cameras. I dont like JT but I see a witch hunt when I see one

If I was. Jt I would tell fa stuff pre match handshakes! As they called me racist no point doing them.. as it would b hypocritical. Of me to do so.. also af. refused so what's. Good for him is good for me!

We all know what he said even professional lip readers have said what we all know

lip readers deemed the first half of what terry said indecifrable

Two lip readers, one for Terry and one for the prosecution both agreed that Terry said "You Black c**t - You f**king knobhead" in the direction of AF. This was accepted by the judge as "Fact". The only point which was did AF say the same words to Terry, which was his defence and the prosecution was unable to prove that to the judges satisfaction hence not guilty.

But Terry said the words and admitted this to both the courts and the FA but he attempted to muddy the waters by saying AF said them to him first.

Why on earth would AF call Terry "A black c**t"

bit of an idiotic statement youve just made really.
now Terry made the point that he was stating that he didnt call AF a black c**t. He was responding to the accusation that he did call AF that. That assumes that AF asked JT did you just call me a 'black c**t? where JT replies. The case couldnt be proved in a court of law, so JT is innocent
Now this FA ruling should be based on what is stated by the referee, not by what we have seen on TV, otherwise you make the precedent 'say what you want to each other we dont care just make sure the camera isnt watching you'. If none of this is in the refs match report the FA shouldnt be able to charge him with anything. It stinks really and a desperate attempt to try and keep the FA's reputation clean and seen to be fighting racism.

Read the judgement before you call anyone idiotic because Terry admits that he used the words "F**K Off" "F**K Off" "You Black C**t , you f**cking knobhead" .

The FA actually charged Terry with "with using abusive and/or insulting words and/or behaviour towards Queens Park Rangers’ Anton Ferdinand and which included a reference to colour and/or race contrary to FA Rule E3[2] in relation to the Queens Park Rangers FC versus Chelsea FC fixture at Loftus Road on 23 October 2011."

Now is calling someone a "black c**t or f**king knobhead" insulting and abusive ? and is there reference to colour and / or race ?

In court Terry was charged with using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour or disorderly behaviour within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress and the offence was racially aggravated in accordance with section 28 of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998, contrary to Section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986 and section 31(1)(c) and (5) of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998.

There was never any chance of Terry being found guilty of a racially aggravated offence and this matter should never ever have got to a court of the law.

His crime is that he has used abusive language which included reference to colour and /or race which is contrary to FA rules and after admitting he said the words he was always going to be found guilty.

So did AF if you believe JT statement so again ill ask why isnt AF up on the same FA charge or is it just because what AF said wasnt in front of a TV camera in which case the FA should change their rules stating 'say what you want but be careful of TV cameras. Simple when you look at it really. FA rulings are based on the thoughts of the referee and assistants not TV cameras. I dont like JT but I see a witch hunt when I see one

I agree that AF by his actions should face a charge similar to Terry but without the reference to colour or race because he has never admitted using any racist words. In fact Terry has only said he thought he "may" have said it which is hardly conclusive. But either way you can bet your bottom dollar there were plenty of abisuve words being used by AF when he was giving Terry a dogs abuse over Bridges girlfriend. Hopefully the FA have found enough evidence to bring charges against AF because he deserves it as well, the real loser in all this has been football.

But there isa big difference to the charge Terry faced in court to the charge he faced from the FA, AF is only mentioned in the FA charge in court it was a broader charge of using these words within the hearing and sight of someone who may feel harrassed. The CPS offered no witnessess who felt harrassed by either hearing or seeing what Terry said.

As I say it never ever should have got to court and that's why Terry quite rightly was found not guilty of the charges he faced there.