The buck stops with Margaret Thatcher

What the f**k did Blair and Brown do?

Why signal out one PM to push your agenda?

And f*cking LOL at Thatcher protecting the police as a reward for what they did against the miners.

What world do you lot live in?

Do you have any idea what role the police play in society? That's why Govt waits so long to do anything. It would ruined the reputation of the entire police force.

OH MY f*cking GOOD GOD!!

It would have ENHANCED their reputation had she acted then. Britain would have known
they werent above the law!!!

Listen, Blair, Major... all cunts. Total cunts. Irrespective of what colour tie they wear.
If your trying to turn this into a Tory V Socialist argument your banging on the wrong door.

And it proves your defeated

So I'll ask again................

Why did Thatcher do f**k all when she KNEW the facts.

You wanna bring up the WMD and Tony Blair... fire away. I'll be 100% behind you.

But you sad people sucking on her withered nipples and STILL not admitting she covered
it up is very very poor.

Again, why did your hero of the 20th Century. Saviour of Britain and its people give the
police a free pass.

Once you swallow your pride and admit she is a bitter c**t who thought the working man
should be seen (sweating) but definitely not heard...

We can move on to Blair who i also think is a c**t, and should be buried alive with her.

nice try by the way.

Answer the question... why did "Mrs Britain" sweep it under the carpet???

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FACT. or will somebody PLEASE explain why she did NOTHING on receipt of the Taylor Report

Because it brings into question EVERYTHING the police were doing at the time.

I've already tried to point out to you that Govt tries to put a large amount of time between the events and the time the truth comes out.

But you fail to grasp reality and simple see things in black and white.

You failed to grasp reality with the Greek issue. Your response? The Greeks should simply stop paying. Not understanding that doing that would cause another economic crash.

I'll keep it simple, Thatcher wasn't protecting SYP. The Govt was protecting the entire police force. Protecting ongoing investigations, the RUC in Northern Ireland - Yes, great time to go after the police when you have a civil war going on.

You just have to put away your personal agenda which is clear to see and look at the bigger picture.

Because it brings into question EVERYTHING the police were doing at the time.

I've already tried to point out to you that Govt tries to put a large amount of time between the events and the time the truth comes out.

But you fail to grasp reality and simple see things in black and white.

You failed to grasp reality with the Greek issue. Your response? The Greeks should simply stop paying. Not understanding that doing that would cause another economic crash.

I'll keep it simple, Thatcher wasn't protecting SYP. The Govt was protecting the entire police force. Protecting ongoing investigations, the RUC in Northern Ireland - Yes, great time to go after the police when you have a civil war going on.

You just have to put away your personal agenda which is clear to see and look at the bigger picture.

Really?

I'll tell you why Thatcher did nothing about the Taylor report it's the Community Charge and the known problems she was going to face less than 6 weeks after Taylor published his report.


Thatcher was trying to inflict her community charge on the British public and the great British public was having none of it. At the time the Taylor report was published protest marches had been arranged throughout the country, the biggest being in London. She needed the police on her side to crack a few skulls on anyone who dared to challenge the authority of her or her government.

The scenes of police violence during that London demonstration are a national disgrace but they acted in the sure knowledge that none of them would face charges. Yes some demonstrators resorted to damaging and looting property which again is completely unacceptable but mowing down a woman with charging police horses id far far worse and that was done in the name of democracy and with the full support of the Thatcher government.

None of it mattered because when the act became law 18,000,000 people refused to pay the tax and that finished the bitch.


If you want to know why said wrote on a cabinet paper "Would we welcome the Taylor report". She needed the police so the last thing she needed was a discredited police force responsible for the deaths of 96 innocent football fans. There were no innocent football fans in Thatchers Britain just hooligans.

The truth coming out at the time showing SYP lied through their teeth don't you think that would have an impact on the entire police force?

Thus having an impact ongoing investigations?

Bring into question the police evidence?

The truth coming out at the time showing SYP lied through their teeth don't you think that would have an impact on the entire police force?

Thus having an impact ongoing investigations?

Bring into question the police evidence?

I like how your almost congratulating her on doing a good job of protecting the police force

I'll tell you why Thatcher did nothing about the Taylor report it's the Community Charge and the known problems she was going to face less than 6 weeks after Taylor published his report.


Thatcher was trying to inflict her community charge on the British public and the great British public was having none of it. At the time the Taylor report was published protest marches had been arranged throughout the country, the biggest being in London. She needed the police on her side to crack a few skulls on anyone who dared to challenge the authority of her or her government.

The scenes of police violence during that London demonstration are a national disgrace but they acted in the sure knowledge that none of them would face charges. Yes some demonstrators resorted to damaging and looting property which again is completely unacceptable but mowing down a woman with charging police horses id far far worse and that was done in the name of democracy and with the full support of the Thatcher government.

None of it mattered because when the act became law 18,000,000 people refused to pay the tax and that finished the bitch.


If you want to know why said wrote on a cabinet paper "Would we welcome the Taylor report". She needed the police so the last thing she needed was a discredited police force responsible for the deaths of 96 innocent football fans. There were no innocent football fans in Thatchers Britain just hooligans.

And yet today we have the council tax.

The truth coming out at the time showing SYP lied through their teeth don't you think that would have an impact on the entire police force?

Thus having an impact ongoing investigations?

Bring into question the police evidence?

I like how your almost congratulating her on doing a good job of protecting the police force

Without the police force you would never leave your house.

The truth coming out at the time showing SYP lied through their teeth don't you think that would have an impact on the entire police force?

Thus having an impact ongoing investigations?

Bring into question the police evidence?

I like how your almost congratulating her on doing a good job of protecting the police force

Without the police force you would never leave your house.

Oh I agree we need a police force but I do think that she should have prevented this corruption

I'll tell you why Thatcher did nothing about the Taylor report it's the Community Charge and the known problems she was going to face less than 6 weeks after Taylor published his report.


Thatcher was trying to inflict her community charge on the British public and the great British public was having none of it. At the time the Taylor report was published protest marches had been arranged throughout the country, the biggest being in London. She needed the police on her side to crack a few skulls on anyone who dared to challenge the authority of her or her government.

The scenes of police violence during that London demonstration are a national disgrace but they acted in the sure knowledge that none of them would face charges. Yes some demonstrators resorted to damaging and looting property which again is completely unacceptable but mowing down a woman with charging police horses id far far worse and that was done in the name of democracy and with the full support of the Thatcher government.

None of it mattered because when the act became law 18,000,000 people refused to pay the tax and that finished the bitch.


If you want to know why said wrote on a cabinet paper "Would we welcome the Taylor report". She needed the police so the last thing she needed was a discredited police force responsible for the deaths of 96 innocent football fans. There were no innocent football fans in Thatchers Britain just hooligans.

And yet today we have the council tax.

That's right and the difference is.

The truth coming out at the time showing SYP lied through their teeth don't you think that would have an impact on the entire police force?

Thus having an impact ongoing investigations?

Bring into question the police evidence?

On the entire police force? They weren't involved at Hillsborough, just SYP. If they were dealt with properly, without any apparent prejudice, for or against, then it would not have affected any of the other forces. It would have helped repair the damage caused to the whole force's image after certain adverse publicity for them.

The truth is, after all these years (particularly, for some, since the miners' strike of 1984-85), the police force, as a whole, is seen as being untouchable. That can't be right in a civilised society. We aren't Chile under Pinochet, or some such fascist state, are we?

Because it brings into question EVERYTHING the police were doing at the time.

I've already tried to point out to you that Govt tries to put a large amount of time between the events and the time the truth comes out.

But you fail to grasp reality and simple see things in black and white.

You failed to grasp reality with the Greek issue. Your response? The Greeks should simply stop paying. Not understanding that doing that would cause another economic crash.

I'll keep it simple, Thatcher wasn't protecting SYP. The Govt was protecting the entire police force. Protecting ongoing investigations, the RUC in Northern Ireland - Yes, great time to go after the police when you have a civil war going on.

You just have to put away your personal agenda which is clear to see and look at the bigger picture.

So there was a civil war going on?

Your making a fool of yourself lad.

And Greece? f**k me dont bring them into it.

Did Thatcher cover up the criminal negligence of her Police Force or not?

And if she did.

she ignored the fact that 10 yr old kids were breathalised as they lay dying and that
innocent 15 yr old girls were to 'outed' as criminals (if ONLY they'd been criminals)

These were supposed to be HER people.

I'm done now.

you are as sad as Rain Man. Thats some accusation from me. Sorry

The truth coming out at the time showing SYP lied through their teeth don't you think that would have an impact on the entire police force?

Thus having an impact ongoing investigations?

Bring into question the police evidence?

On the entire police force? They weren't involved at Hillsborough, just SYP. If they were dealt with properly, without any apparent prejudice, for or against, then it would not have affected any of the other forces. It would have helped repair the damage caused to the whole force's image after certain adverse publicity for them.

The truth is, after all these years (particularly, for some, since the miners' strike of 1984-85), the police force, as a whole, is seen as being untouchable. That can't be right in a civilised society. We aren't Chile under Pinochet, or some such fascist state, are we?

That's an insult to the people of Chile. You have no idea what living in a fascist state is like.

Look at the impact the Stephen Lawrence case had on the police and not just the Met.

Because it brings into question EVERYTHING the police were doing at the time.

I've already tried to point out to you that Govt tries to put a large amount of time between the events and the time the truth comes out.

But you fail to grasp reality and simple see things in black and white.

You failed to grasp reality with the Greek issue. Your response? The Greeks should simply stop paying. Not understanding that doing that would cause another economic crash.

I'll keep it simple, Thatcher wasn't protecting SYP. The Govt was protecting the entire police force. Protecting ongoing investigations, the RUC in Northern Ireland - Yes, great time to go after the police when you have a civil war going on.

You just have to put away your personal agenda which is clear to see and look at the bigger picture.

So there was a civil war going on?

Your making a fool of yourself lad.

And Greece? f**k me dont bring them into it.

Did Thatcher cover up the criminal negligence of her Police Force or not?

And if she did.

she ignored the fact that 10 yr old kids were breathalised as they lay dying and that
innocent 15 yr old girls were to 'outed' as criminals (if ONLY they'd been criminals)

These were supposed to be HER people.

I'm done now.

you are as sad as Rain Man. Thats some accusation from me. Sorry

You don't think Northern Ireland was a civil war then? That HLs everything I need to know. 3,000 died, Army on the streets, no go areas for RUC and Army. What would you call it then?

And Greece is important as it shows you don't have a clue about the real world we live in.

I'll tell you why Thatcher did nothing about the Taylor report it's the Community Charge and the known problems she was going to face less than 6 weeks after Taylor published his report.


Thatcher was trying to inflict her community charge on the British public and the great British public was having none of it. At the time the Taylor report was published protest marches had been arranged throughout the country, the biggest being in London. She needed the police on her side to crack a few skulls on anyone who dared to challenge the authority of her or her government.

The scenes of police violence during that London demonstration are a national disgrace but they acted in the sure knowledge that none of them would face charges. Yes some demonstrators resorted to damaging and looting property which again is completely unacceptable but mowing down a woman with charging police horses id far far worse and that was done in the name of democracy and with the full support of the Thatcher government.

None of it mattered because when the act became law 18,000,000 people refused to pay the tax and that finished the bitch.


If you want to know why said wrote on a cabinet paper "Would we welcome the Taylor report". She needed the police so the last thing she needed was a discredited police force responsible for the deaths of 96 innocent football fans. There were no innocent football fans in Thatchers Britain just hooligans.

And yet today we have the council tax.

That's right and the difference is.

Not a huge amount.

What you failed to mention is your agenda filled post is that Major won the next GE and thus showing that the UK wasn't fed up of the Torries.

The truth coming out at the time showing SYP lied through their teeth don't you think that would have an impact on the entire police force?

Thus having an impact ongoing investigations?

Bring into question the police evidence?

On the entire police force? They weren't involved at Hillsborough, just SYP. If they were dealt with properly, without any apparent prejudice, for or against, then it would not have affected any of the other forces. It would have helped repair the damage caused to the whole force's image after certain adverse publicity for them.

The truth is, after all these years (particularly, for some, since the miners' strike of 1984-85), the police force, as a whole, is seen as being untouchable. That can't be right in a civilised society. We aren't Chile under Pinochet, or some such fascist state, are we?

That's an insult to the people of Chile. You have no idea what living in a fascist state is like.

Look at the impact the Stephen Lawrence case had on the police and not just the Met.

No, it isn't an insult, I'm talking about the police being answerable for their actions.

If each individual case gets dealt with properly, then it doesn't have to affect the image of the entire force. Look at the case with South Wales Police over the Lynette White murder, that's another one that the IPCC, or whoever, should've dealt with.

But the White case did happened there and then.

'Liar' Lewis was well gone before the truth came out.

I agree with you.

All I've said is that with White, Bloody Sunday and the 96 is that there is a large amount of times passes before the truth comes out.

The truth has come out on all three cases.

But the White case did happened there and then.

'Liar' Lewis was well gone before the truth came out.

I agree with you.

All I've said is that with White, Bloody Sunday and the 96 is that there is a large amount of times passes before the truth comes out.

The truth has come out on all three cases.

Yes, but a distinct lack of prosecutions, sadly, of some guilty people.

Some say late justice is no justice at all.

I think with what you just said proves that point.

Because it brings into question EVERYTHING the police were doing at the time.

I've already tried to point out to you that Govt tries to put a large amount of time between the events and the time the truth comes out.

But you fail to grasp reality and simple see things in black and white.

You failed to grasp reality with the Greek issue. Your response? The Greeks should simply stop paying. Not understanding that doing that would cause another economic crash.

I'll keep it simple, Thatcher wasn't protecting SYP. The Govt was protecting the entire police force. Protecting ongoing investigations, the RUC in Northern Ireland - Yes, great time to go after the police when you have a civil war going on.

You just have to put away your personal agenda which is clear to see and look at the bigger picture.

So there was a civil war going on?

Your making a fool of yourself lad.

And Greece? f**k me dont bring them into it.

Did Thatcher cover up the criminal negligence of her Police Force or not?

And if she did.

she ignored the fact that 10 yr old kids were breathalised as they lay dying and that
innocent 15 yr old girls were to 'outed' as criminals (if ONLY they'd been criminals)

These were supposed to be HER people.

I'm done now.

you are as sad as Rain Man. Thats some accusation from me. Sorry

You don't think Northern Ireland was a civil war then? That HLs everything I need to know. 3,000 died, Army on the streets, no go areas for RUC and Army. What would you call it then?

Mainland Britain?

You do realise dont you?

(obviously not)

that what you are describing is a police state. for the whole of Britain. Northern Ireland
was a totally different situation to the rest of Britain.

Are you seriously suggesting that because Northern Ireland was delicate, we had to turn a
Blind eye to the misgivings of every police force in the UK????????????

I'd have loved to be a copper in her day

"f**k me, look at the RUC with them rubber bullets, im getting some of them!!"

"wha you on about mate, your only patrolling Cowbridge!"

"Dont matter feller, we got a free pass!!!"

I'll tell you why Thatcher did nothing about the Taylor report it's the Community Charge and the known problems she was going to face less than 6 weeks after Taylor published his report.


Thatcher was trying to inflict her community charge on the British public and the great British public was having none of it. At the time the Taylor report was published protest marches had been arranged throughout the country, the biggest being in London. She needed the police on her side to crack a few skulls on anyone who dared to challenge the authority of her or her government.

The scenes of police violence during that London demonstration are a national disgrace but they acted in the sure knowledge that none of them would face charges. Yes some demonstrators resorted to damaging and looting property which again is completely unacceptable but mowing down a woman with charging police horses id far far worse and that was done in the name of democracy and with the full support of the Thatcher government.

None of it mattered because when the act became law 18,000,000 people refused to pay the tax and that finished the bitch.


If you want to know why said wrote on a cabinet paper "Would we welcome the Taylor report". She needed the police so the last thing she needed was a discredited police force responsible for the deaths of 96 innocent football fans. There were no innocent football fans in Thatchers Britain just hooligans.

And yet today we have the council tax.

That's right and the difference is.

Not a huge amount.

What you failed to mention is your agenda filled post is that Major won the next GE and thus showing that the UK wasn't fed up of the Torries.

So you don't know the difference which sort of says everything about you. Community Charge replaced domestic rates which were based on the value of the property. Community Charge paid no attention to the value of the property but more the number of people living in the property. This had the effect of shifting the tax burden from the rich to the poor. Community Charge was the spawn of Thatcher when she was Environment Secretary in the Heath government in the 1970's.

At it's core are the very basic conservative values of shifting tax burden from the rich to the poor and that core value has never changed, even today Cameron has awarded tax cuts to millionaire including himself whilst increasing indirect taxation for everyone. This leaves the poorest with a high % of the tax burden when compared to income.

Council Tax reverted the basis of calculation of local taxes back to reflecting the value of a property the same as the rates system. By this time Thatcher had gone buggered by her own party because her despotic behaviour had made her completely unelectable.

Some say late justice is no justice at all.

I think with what you just said proves that point.

That's how if feels, sometimes. The fact that, for instance, it's been mentioned that 41 of the 96 who died, could possibly have been saved, leaves a nasty taste in the mouth, to put it mildly. When you realise that at least one copper involved was allowed to retire due to "ill health," then it stirs up some real anger.

Another thing that I noticed recently was how the Cardiff men who were wrongly accused of Lynette White's murder suffered through the years - not just in prison, but after that. I then remembered those coppers celebrating that they'd got off, outside Swansea Crown Court and some important documents then being "found" after the case ended. So many injustices that we could talk about, not just Hillsborough and not just while Thatcher was in government.

But the White case did happened there and then.

'Liar' Lewis was well gone before the truth came out.

I agree with you.

All I've said is that with White, Bloody Sunday and the 96 is that there is a large amount of times passes before the truth comes out.

The truth has come out on all three cases.

No, thats NOT all you've said. you are lying.

You said:

Thatcher had no role. Unless you think Thatcher needed to become Columbo and get to the bottom of it all?

Thatcher DID have a role. She buried it. It was her decision. She was Prime Minister

It was her DUTY to become Columbo. She swore an oath that involve protecting her
people to the best of her ability. She decided to protect the guilty

In THIS instance, the reason 20 odd years have passed before the truth has come out
was because SHE suppressed it.

Thatcher knew. She buried it.

LOVING HOW THIS QUITE BASIC THREAD:

THATCHER KNEW ABOUT HILLSBOROUGH AND BURIED IT

HAS TURNED INTO A THREAD ABOUT POLITICS (BECAUSE ON HILLSBOROUGH, THATCHER IS INDEFENSIBLE)

POLITICS DONT COME INTO IT

SHE IS A c**t WHO SHAT ON THE DEAD

FOR BALANCE, HISTORY WILL PROVE BLAIR TO BE JUST AS f*cking SHAMELESS

I WISH THEM BOTH SLOW AGONISING DEATHS

Shut up.

Again, you are pushing a agenda.

Thatcher didn't cover it up.

The SYP covered it up.

Then a number of PMs came and went.

23 years on where it can have little impact on the police the truth comes out.

Listen to the shite the SYP were saying yesterday, it's as if they were a different police force.

Shut up.

Again, you are pushing a agenda.

Thatcher didn't cover it up.

The SYP covered it up.

Then a number of PMs came and went.

23 years on where it can have little impact on the police the truth comes out.

Listen to the shite the SYP were saying yesterday, it's as if they were a different police force.

A memo to Thatcher from a senior Civil Servant said that the Taylor Report would "sap confidence in the police force"
and could encourage aggressive behaviour by fans who would feel "vindicated" by its conclusions.
In a handwritten note, Mrs Thatcher made it clear that she did not want to give the government's full backing
to Lord Taylor's criticisms, only to the way in which he had conducted his inquiry and made recommendations
for action.

She wrote: "What do we mean by 'welcoming the broad thrust of the report'? The broad thrust is devastating
criticism of the police. Is that for us to welcome?


We all know the SYP covered it up.

Thatcher knew the truth, she could have ordered a criminal investigation.

But her only actions regarding Hillsborough were to award Sheff Weds Chairman an OBE and
the Chief Constable of SWP was allowed to retire on full pension. What a woman

And Major, Blair and Brown could have also held a inquire.

Taff responds with that I also hate them, but I'll signal out Thatcher because I want to push my own agenda......

And Major, Blair and Brown could have also held a inquire.

Taff responds with that I also hate them, but I'll signal out Thatcher because I want to push my own agenda......

YOU responded with.

Thatcher didnt cover it up!!!

f**k Blair, Brown, Major. We can move on to them cunts next.

Thatcher was the Prime Minister at the time. She was in possession of
all the facts. She did f**k all. Except let the Chief Constable retire

Is that or is that not a cover up???