Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:35 pm
Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:51 pm
Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:52 pm
Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:52 pm
Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:00 pm
Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:14 pm
nickblue22 wrote:I'm not being funny guys - were you there? Are you actually Wales supporters?
That was just a regular old-fashioned sliding tackle. The Belgian player was going for it in the same way. He has only just clipped the guy's leg, which would not have caused him any harm, and there was no way it could be described as intentional. That is not a red card offence, possibly only a caution, without even being a yellow.
You surely have to agree that the ref was then, for the rest of the match, biased against Wales. The push just outside the Belgian penalty area was an obvious foul not given, and the free kick given to Belgium for their second goal was equally obviously incorrect. Watch the game through, and you'll see a whole host of incorrect decisions, and as I've mentioned, the Sky commentators picked up on this, frequently stating that the referee was biased in favour of Belgium to the extent that it was getting "ridiculous".
I think you're all just looking at the fact that Belgium are packed full of stars like Fellaini, etc. But despite a lot of possession, they didn't really do all that much. I do not think it's wrong to state that James Collins was looking very effective up until the time he was incorrectly sent off, and would have continued to make things very difficult for Belgium.
Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:17 pm
nickblue22 wrote:I'm not being funny guys - were you there? Are you actually Wales supporters?
That was just a regular old-fashioned sliding tackle. The Belgian player was going for it in the same way. He has only just clipped the guy's leg, which would not have caused him any harm, and there was no way it could be described as intentional. That is not a red card offence, possibly only a caution, without even being a yellow.
You surely have to agree that the ref was then, for the rest of the match, biased against Wales. The push just outside the Belgian penalty area was an obvious foul not given, and the free kick given to Belgium for their second goal was equally obviously incorrect. Watch the game through, and you'll see a whole host of incorrect decisions, and as I've mentioned, the Sky commentators picked up on this, frequently stating that the referee was biased in favour of Belgium to the extent that it was getting "ridiculous".
I think you're all just looking at the fact that Belgium are packed full of stars like Fellaini, etc. But despite a lot of possession, they didn't really do all that much. I do not think it's wrong to state that James Collins was looking very effective up until the time he was incorrectly sent off, and would have continued to make things very difficult for Belgium.
Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:28 pm
Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:45 pm
nickblue22 wrote:Flip it round the other way - if he'd only got a yellow card, would you have been screaming that it was a definite red? I really don't think so, and I honestly feel that the majority of referees would only have given a yellow card at most in that situation.
Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:55 pm
nickblue22 wrote:I'm not being funny guys - were you there? Are you actually Wales supporters?
That was just a regular old-fashioned sliding tackle. The Belgian player was going for it in the same way. He has only just clipped the guy's leg, which would not have caused him any harm, and there was no way it could be described as intentional. That is not a red card offence, possibly only a caution, without even being a yellow.
You surely have to agree that the ref was then, for the rest of the match, biased against Wales. The push just outside the Belgian penalty area was an obvious foul not given, and the free kick given to Belgium for their second goal was equally obviously incorrect. Watch the game through, and you'll see a whole host of incorrect decisions, and as I've mentioned, the Sky commentators picked up on this, frequently stating that the referee was biased in favour of Belgium to the extent that it was getting "ridiculous".
I think you're all just looking at the fact that Belgium are packed full of stars like Fellaini, etc. But despite a lot of possession, they didn't really do all that much. I do not think it's wrong to state that James Collins was looking very effective up until the time he was incorrectly sent off, and would have continued to make things very difficult for Belgium.
Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:06 pm
Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:22 pm
Bluebird For Life wrote:nickblue22 wrote:I'm not being funny guys - were you there? Are you actually Wales supporters?
That was just a regular old-fashioned sliding tackle. The Belgian player was going for it in the same way. He has only just clipped the guy's leg, which would not have caused him any harm, and there was no way it could be described as intentional. That is not a red card offence, possibly only a caution, without even being a yellow.
You surely have to agree that the ref was then, for the rest of the match, biased against Wales. The push just outside the Belgian penalty area was an obvious foul not given, and the free kick given to Belgium for their second goal was equally obviously incorrect. Watch the game through, and you'll see a whole host of incorrect decisions, and as I've mentioned, the Sky commentators picked up on this, frequently stating that the referee was biased in favour of Belgium to the extent that it was getting "ridiculous".
I think you're all just looking at the fact that Belgium are packed full of stars like Fellaini, etc. But despite a lot of possession, they didn't really do all that much. I do not think it's wrong to state that James Collins was looking very effective up until the time he was incorrectly sent off, and would have continued to make things very difficult for Belgium.
It was an appalling challenge - two footed, studs showing from behind and off the ground. I agree the ref had a pretty poor game, but how anyone can say that was a good old fashoined sliding tackle challenge is beyond me.
Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:59 pm
nickblue22 wrote:That was just a regular old-fashioned sliding tackle.
Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:28 pm
nickblue22 wrote:I give up. Clearly the days of getting behind your own team are as long gone as the notion that physical exertion might be required to win the ball from the opposition.
Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:20 pm
Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:53 pm
Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:04 am
the Ref's bias was embarrassing
Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:04 am
the Ref's bias was embarrassing
Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:33 am