he who is without sin - cast the first stone - not on here!!

How do you know it's hear say? It's hearsay for you as you clearly don't know. I'm in a position where I'm pretty damn sure.

Now that is cosmic.

Taffy. Nobody is having a go at him BECAUSE he is having issues with his wife, the problem comes when he isn't playing for us because of it while being by far and away our top earner.

I'm sure on a friend level, which we are not, we would be behind him. But we are pretty much his employers. I know for a fact if I took 2 weeks off because I'd cheated on my wife in a vital stage of work, when thy had just made me by far and away top earner, money the company could barely afford...l certainly wouldn't expect them to be singing my name down he phone and sending me poems of love.

Yes he's going through a bad time, but as you say, so do most people in their lives. He says he wants normality well then stop acting like a diva. This happens to mot and we just have to get on with it, we don't have the luxury of moving to a penthouse down the bay while playing golf. We'd be on he streets or on a mates floor having to go to work to eat.

He's got it good.

See, you WOULDNT go up to him in a street and say "you deserve everything you gets for
cheating on your wife and kids" because you dont know him or her, and you dont know
what happened. And he'd probably tw*t you.

So why do it on here?

Because I don't know him, he's a stranger, why would I? If he twats me then that would add to his already long list of not acting like a decent human being wouldn't it.

When discussing Cardiff matters on a Cardiff football forum then I'm well within my rights. Why you feel the need for me to tell him to his face I don't know. You seem to have a very simplistic and naive outlook on this.

I think the queen is pointless but if I met her I wouldn't tell her as there is no need. But if discussing the monarchy then would feel every right to state my opinion.

Not a decent human being but putting his own money into a school in Seira Leone? Christ just because you can be a bit of a tw*t like everyone else but because earns a high wage hes not a decent human being, f*cking hell. As for whether or not he cheated on his wife is f**k ALL to do with us

Taffy. Nobody is having a go at him BECAUSE he is having issues with his wife, the problem comes when he isn't playing for us because of it while being by far and away our top earner.

I'm sure on a friend level, which we are not, we would be behind him. But we are pretty much his employers. I know for a fact if I took 2 weeks off because I'd cheated on my wife in a vital stage of work, when thy had just made me by far and away top earner, money the company could barely afford...l certainly wouldn't expect them to be singing my name down he phone and sending me poems of love.

Yes he's going through a bad time, but as you say, so do most people in their lives. He says he wants normality well then stop acting like a diva. This happens to mot and we just have to get on with it, we don't have the luxury of moving to a penthouse down the bay while playing golf. We'd be on he streets or on a mates floor having to go to work to eat.

He's got it good.

See, you WOULDNT go up to him in a street and say "you deserve everything you gets for
cheating on your wife and kids" because you dont know him or her, and you dont know
what happened. And he'd probably tw*t you.

So why do it on here?

Because I don't know him, he's a stranger, why would I? If he twats me then that would add to his already long list of not acting like a decent human being wouldn't it.

When discussing Cardiff matters on a Cardiff football forum then I'm well within my rights. Why you feel the need for me to tell him to his face I don't know. You seem to have a very simplistic and naive outlook on this.

I think the queen is pointless but if I met her I wouldn't tell her as there is no need. But if discussing the monarchy then would feel every right to state my opinion.

Not a decent human being but putting his own money into a school in Seira Leone? Christ just because you can be a bit of a tw*t like everyone else but because earns a high wage hes not a decent human being, f*cking hell. As for whether or not he cheated on his wife is f**k ALL to do with us

Beating up women, beating up people with golf clubs, sending malicious texts to players, cheating on his wife and kids.... Oh but it's ok as he has his own academy ffs.

And it has everything to do with us as he's not playing for us as a result. If he just got on with it like everyone else then I'd agree, but he's not... So I don't.

Taffy. Nobody is having a go at him BECAUSE he is having issues with his wife, the problem comes when he isn't playing for us because of it while being by far and away our top earner.

I'm sure on a friend level, which we are not, we would be behind him. But we are pretty much his employers. I know for a fact if I took 2 weeks off because I'd cheated on my wife in a vital stage of work, when thy had just made me by far and away top earner, money the company could barely afford...l certainly wouldn't expect them to be singing my name down he phone and sending me poems of love.

Yes he's going through a bad time, but as you say, so do most people in their lives. He says he wants normality well then stop acting like a diva. This happens to mot and we just have to get on with it, we don't have the luxury of moving to a penthouse down the bay while playing golf. We'd be on he streets or on a mates floor having to go to work to eat.

He's got it good.

See, you WOULDNT go up to him in a street and say "you deserve everything you gets for
cheating on your wife and kids" because you dont know him or her, and you dont know
what happened. And he'd probably tw*t you.

So why do it on here?

Because I don't know him, he's a stranger, why would I? If he twats me then that would add to his already long list of not acting like a decent human being wouldn't it.

When discussing Cardiff matters on a Cardiff football forum then I'm well within my rights. Why you feel the need for me to tell him to his face I don't know. You seem to have a very simplistic and naive outlook on this.

I think the queen is pointless but if I met her I wouldn't tell her as there is no need. But if discussing the monarchy then would feel every right to state my opinion.

Not a decent human being but putting his own money into a school in Seira Leone? Christ just because you can be a bit of a tw*t like everyone else but because earns a high wage hes not a decent human being, f*cking hell. As for whether or not he cheated on his wife is f**k ALL to do with us

Beating up women, beating up people with golf clubs, sending malicious texts to players, cheating on his wife and kids.... Oh but it's ok as he has his own academy ffs.

And it has everything to do with us as he's not playing for us as a result. If he just got on with it like everyone else then I'd agree, but he's not... So I don't.

Out of all that I only know that hitting Risse with a golf club is actually true. I think he is a bit of a prick but I wont go so far as saying hes not a decent human being.

As for not playing as a result so far hes missed 2 games, plus the fact if he is suffereing from depression (which is what it sounds like) he has EVERY right to take time off like any other person regardless of how much they earn.

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/26407-footb ... the-throat

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... fight.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... k-off.html

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/26407-footballer-bellamy-grabbed-woman-by-the-throat

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... fight.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... k-off.html

I heared about the second one and I agree he is a prick. As for the second one what happened with that?

But back to the point I was making why is he not allowed time off if he is depressed?

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/26407-footballer-bellamy-grabbed-woman-by-the-throat

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... fight.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... k-off.html

Great post

I meant the first one with the women. And as for the texts to Shearer who gives a f**k they didnt like each other end of and he was playing for Celtic.

What's suggesting he is?

Depression and going through a hard time are two completely differing things. You aren't automatically depressed, it's a mental illness isn't it.

This is terry saying "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" after he criticised terry for having an affair...

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footbal ... 08993.html

19 Years of being away from ur wife is eventually gonna take its toll on a marriage....people change......no one else is involved.....hes a lovely guy who has done everything to give his family the best,he worships his kids and think that he needed the break to spend it with them and try to sort his head out...as a family friend i hope the fans stick with him and not slate him..............as for chopra,nice guy,great player but money meant more to him than his family...he should have been home rather than the casino or bookies!!!!!!!
GREAT POST TAFFYAPPLE

What's suggesting he is?

Depression and going through a hard time are two completely differing things. You aren't automatically depressed, it's a mental illness isn't it.

This is terry saying "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" after he criticised terry for having an affair...

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footbal ... 08993.html

Depression stems from going through hard times. You dont know how long its been going on for or how its affected him or his family. Depression is a horrible thing and get effect anyone.

19 Years of being away from ur wife is eventually gonna take its toll on a marriage....people change......no one else is involved.....hes a lovely guy who has done everything to give his family the best,he worships his kids and think that he needed the break to spend it with them and try to sort his head out...as a family friend i hope the fans stick with him and not slate him..............as for chopra,nice guy,great player but money meant more to him than his family...he should have been home rather than the casino or bookies!!!!!!!
GREAT POST TAFFYAPPLE

How many lovely guys do you know who smash someone round the head with an iron bar because they wont do karaoke?

What's suggesting he is?

Depression and going through a hard time are two completely differing things. You aren't automatically depressed, it's a mental illness isn't it.

This is terry saying "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" after he criticised terry for having an affair...

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footbal ... 08993.html

Depression stems from going through hard times. You dont know how long its been going on for or how its affected him or his family. Depression is a horrible thing and get effect anyone.

Completely disagree. There can be triggers yes.

But in this day and age, if something bad happens to you then the line is "depression". If I lost my home and my wife it wouldn't automatically mean I'd contract a mental illness.

People have a complete lack of understanding of depression and it is showing here. Yes he's going through a hard time but so are billions of people who just get on with it. Being down and being clinically depressed are world apart.

19 Years of being away from ur wife is eventually gonna take its toll on a marriage....people change......no one else is involved.....hes a lovely guy who has done everything to give his family the best,he worships his kids and think that he needed the break to spend it with them and try to sort his head out...as a family friend i hope the fans stick with him and not slate him..............as for chopra,nice ,great player but money meant more to him than his family...he should have been home rather than the casino or bookies!!!!!!!
GREAT POST TAFFYAPPLE

19 years? Is it legal to marry at 13

He hardly moved to the other side if the world anyway

What's suggesting he is?

Depression and going through a hard time are two completely differing things. You aren't automatically depressed, it's a mental illness isn't it.

This is terry saying "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" after he criticised terry for having an affair...

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footbal ... 08993.html

Depression stems from going through hard times. You dont know how long its been going on for or how its affected him or his family. Depression is a horrible thing and get effect anyone.

Completely disagree. There can be triggers yes.

But in this day and age, if something bad happens to you then the line is "depression". If I lost my home and my wife it wouldn't automatically mean I'd contract a mental illness.

People have a complete lack of understanding of depression and it is showing here. Yes he's going through a hard time but so are billions of people who just get on with it. Being down and being clinically depressed are world apart.

No I think I know well enough what depression is. Do you personally know Craig? If not then you know jack shit about how he is feeling right now. I do agree some people do use the line that they are depressed if they are facing difficulties but Id rather help someone who is suffering from these circumstances than leave it and hate to say it end up like Gary Speed.

And not everyone just gets on with it

But you are assuming he has a mental illness based on nothing.

But you are assuming he has a mental illness based on nothing.

Im not specificly saying he is. All I am saying is IF he is suffering under depression then he has the right to have time off. The club have decided its best for him that he does so I respect that.

But you are assuming he has a mental illness based on nothing.

Im not specificly saying he is. All I am saying is IF he is suffering under depression then he has the right to have time off. The club have decided its best for him that he does so I respect that.

Well yes of course just as he would if he had aids, leukaemia or scurvy... But there is nothing to suggest he has any of them.

But you are assuming he has a mental illness based on nothing.

Im not specificly saying he is. All I am saying is IF he is suffering under depression then he has the right to have time off. The club have decided its best for him that he does so I respect that.

Well yes of course just as he would if he had aids, leukaemia or scurvy... But there is itching to suggest he has any of them.

Your not getting my point. Your saying how dare he take time off when hes earning 35k a week but its up to the club to make that decision and I think its a good decision it gives him time to get his head straight and help him through it. Hopefully he isnt suffering from depression

How do you know it's hear say? It's hearsay for you as you clearly don't know. I'm in a position where I'm pretty damn sure.

Now that is cosmic.

Yeh righto.

What a load of f*cking bollocks

How do you know it's hear say? It's hearsay for you as you clearly don't know. I'm in a position where I'm pretty damn sure.

Now that is cosmic.

Yeh righto.

What a load of f*cking bollocks

Great reply.

How do you know it's hear say? It's hearsay for you as you clearly don't know. I'm in a position where I'm pretty damn sure.

Now that is cosmic.

Yeh righto.

What a load of f*cking bollocks

How do you know it's hear say? It's hearsay for you as you clearly don't know. I'm in a position where I'm pretty damn sure.

Now that is cosmic.

Yeh righto.

What a load of f*cking bollocks

Great reply.

You posted earlier in the thread that "Bellamy is a stranger"

Safe to assume that his wife is too?

Safe to assume that anything you've heard is third hand info, or as we call it in the trade "hearsay"

How do you know it's hear say? It's hearsay for you as you clearly don't know. I'm in a position where I'm pretty damn sure.

Now that is cosmic.

Yeh righto.

What a load of f*cking bollocks

Great reply.

You posted earlier in the thread that "Bellamy is a stranger"

Safe to assume that his wife is too?

Safe to assume that anything you've heard is third hand info, or as we call it in the trade "hearsay"

So the only way you can know for sure if someone is having an affair is if you know them personally?

You do realise there are many facets to an affair don't you? The glaringly obvious one you have missed is the other person he had had an affair with, not to mention the friends who have to try and turn a blind eye.

Then of course you have actually witnessing the infidelity.

Please don't tell me you are in the detective trade as you aren't very good.

How do you know it's hear say? It's hearsay for you as you clearly don't know. I'm in a position where I'm pretty damn sure.

Now that is cosmic.

Yeh righto.

What a load of f*cking bollocks

Great reply.

You posted earlier in the thread that "Bellamy is a stranger"

Safe to assume that his wife is too?

Safe to assume that anything you've heard is third hand info, or as we call it in the trade "hearsay"

So the only way you can know for sure if someone is having an affair is if you know them personally?

You do realise there are many facets to an affair don't you? The glaringly obvious one you have missed is the other person he had had an affair with, not to mention the friends who have to try and turn a blind eye.

Then of course you have actually witnessing the infidelity.

Please don't tell me you are in the detective trade as you aren't very good.

Ah right. So now you've WITNESSED him with another bird

However, even if this incredibly convenient revelation were true....

It changes nothing.

You STILL know nothing about the private life of this man you confess is a stranger to you.
You do not know if his wife has been carrying on with the Milkman for years. You do not
know if he and his wife have sat down amicably after years of struggling and explained
everything to the kids. You do not know if the kids are fine with it all. you dont know any
more than the rest of us.

Then call him a shit parent, a bully, a wife beater, a psycho

Either you witnessed all these incidents in his life or.....

its HEARSAY

Go on TA give it both barrels to the condesending berk!!!

How do you know it's hear say? It's hearsay for you as you clearly don't know. I'm in a position where I'm pretty damn sure.

Now that is cosmic.

Yeh righto.

What a load of f*cking bollocks

Great reply.

You posted earlier in the thread that "Bellamy is a stranger"

Safe to assume that his wife is too?

Safe to assume that anything you've heard is third hand info, or as we call it in the trade "hearsay"

So the only way you can know for sure if someone is having an affair is if you know them personally?

You do realise there are many facets to an affair don't you? The glaringly obvious one you have missed is the other person he had had an affair with, not to mention the friends who have to try and turn a blind eye.

Then of course you have actually witnessing the infidelity.

Please don't tell me you are in the detective trade as you aren't very good.

Ah right. So now you've WITNESSED him with another bird

However, even if this incredibly convenient revelation were true....

It changes nothing.

You STILL know nothing about the private life of this man you confess is a stranger to you.
You do not know if his wife has been carrying on with the Milkman for years. You do not
know if he and his wife have sat down amicably after years of struggling and explained
everything to the kids. You do not know if the kids are fine with it all. you dont know any
more than the rest of us.

Then call him a shit parent, a bully, a wife beater, a psycho

Either you witnessed all these incidents in his life or.....

its HEARSAY

Yet more assumption. Where did I say I saw the infidelities?

If you had an affair with my mate. You would be a complete stranger to me yet would still know you were cheating on your wife

I'll say it again, it's hearsay to you, not to me.

Get over it.

As for calling him any of the names you said I did, that's just a complete lie in your behalf. Care to quote me?

Yet more assumption. Where did I say I saw the infidelities?

If you had an affair with my mate. You would be a complete stranger to me yet would still know you were cheating on your wife

I'll say it again, it's hearsay to you, not to me.

So the only way you can know for sure if someone is having an affair is if you know them personally?

You do realise there are many facets to an affair don't you? The glaringly obvious one you have missed is the other person he had had an affair with, not to mention the friends who have to try and turn a blind eye.

Then of course you have actually witnessing the infidelity.

Please don't tell me you are in the detective trade as you aren't very good.

Get over it.

As for calling him any of the names you said I did, that's just a complete lie in your behalf. Care to quote me? [/quote]

Try that for starters

Yet more assumption. Where did I say I saw the infidelities?

If you had an affair with my mate. You would be a complete stranger to me yet would still know you were cheating on your wife

I'll say it again, it's hearsay to you, not to me.

So the only way you can know for sure if someone is having an affair is if you know them personally?

You do realise there are many facets to an affair don't you? The glaringly obvious one you have missed is the other person he had had an affair with, not to mention the friends who have to try and turn a blind eye.

Then of course you have actually witnessing the infidelity.

Please don't tell me you are in the detective trade as you aren't very good.

Get over it.

As for calling him any of the names you said I did, that's just a complete lie in your behalf. Care to quote me?

Try that for starters[/quote]

I listed all the Obvious ways in which you can know someone is having an affair even though they are a stranger.

Why you have picked one of them out and decided to make out that this is the case regarding how I know is odd.

What's suggesting he is?

Depression and going through a hard time are two completely differing things. You aren't automatically depressed, it's a mental illness isn't it.

This is terry saying "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" after he criticised terry for having an affair...

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footbal ... 08993.html

Depression stems from going through hard times. You dont know how long its been going on for or how its affected him or his family. Depression is a horrible thing and get effect anyone.

Completely disagree. There can be triggers yes.

But in this day and age, if something bad happens to you then the line is "depression". If I lost my home and my wife it wouldn't automatically mean I'd contract a mental illness.

People have a complete lack of understanding of depression and it is showing here. Yes he's going through a hard time but so are billions of people who just get on with it. Being down and being clinically depressed are world apart.

If you were a psychiatrist, your parameters for diagnosing depression would be.....

"Are you Craig Bellamy?"........"Then no your not!!!"