Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:04 pm
Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:32 pm
Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:17 pm
Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:22 pm
jinks-rct wrote:I thought Enzo Maccarinelli was banned
Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:56 pm
Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:07 pm
Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:03 pm
Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:40 pm
MillarFromTheHalfWayLine wrote:Boxer.
Is Nathan staying with Warren for the foreseeable future?
Reason I ask is because I don't believe Warren is giving Nathan the attention he deserves, having
got closer ties you may disagree and I will bow to your knowledge but in my opinion Nathan is not
being handled very well and his fights are just not strong enough and he faces the prospect of becoming forgotten
about. People starting to lose interest, there is little excitement about this fight from what I see and here and people
are saying he's fighting another bum.
Shame really, whats your thoughts?
Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:42 pm
Ramstein blue wrote:jinks-rct wrote:I thought Enzo Maccarinelli was banned
Was just a 6 month ban
Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:19 am
Boxer1 wrote:Ramstein blue wrote:jinks-rct wrote:I thought Enzo Maccarinelli was banned
Was just a 6 month ban
I believe Enzos ban runs out in the middle of Oct so all being well this fight will go ahead without issue.
Anyone who has seem Ovill McKenzie fight knows Enzo will be up against it here.....
Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:37 am
Ramstein blue wrote:Boxer1 wrote:Ramstein blue wrote:jinks-rct wrote:I thought Enzo Maccarinelli was banned
Was just a 6 month ban
I believe Enzos ban runs out in the middle of Oct so all being well this fight will go ahead without issue.
Anyone who has seem Ovill McKenzie fight knows Enzo will be up against it here.....
Definitely agree. I watched him put Bellew on the floor, shame he blew up in the rounds after and Bellew showed a bit to much for him.
Should be a decent fight. I think they have found there level fighting against each other. Loser to retire?
Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:16 pm
Boxer1 wrote:Ramstein blue wrote:Boxer1 wrote:Ramstein blue wrote:jinks-rct wrote:I thought Enzo Maccarinelli was banned
Was just a 6 month ban
I believe Enzos ban runs out in the middle of Oct so all being well this fight will go ahead without issue.
Anyone who has seem Ovill McKenzie fight knows Enzo will be up against it here.....
Definitely agree. I watched him put Bellew on the floor, shame he blew up in the rounds after and Bellew showed a bit to much for him.
Should be a decent fight. I think they have found there level fighting against each other. Loser to retire?
Ovill is a good standard of Commonwealth champion but its his power which worries me in regards to the Enzo fight. Ovill could do some serious damage here.....he KO'd Welshman Jeff Evans in about 30 seconds and then blew away seasoned pro Tony Dodson in a few rounds last time out. He's very crude and raw with one punch KO power......the exact opposite of who i beleiev Enzo should be fighting knowing he'll likely be pretty weak at the weight anyway. I genuinely worry for him going into this fight and thats from someone who has always supported Enzo previously.
Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:34 pm
Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:54 pm
Ramstein blue wrote:Boxer1 wrote:Ramstein blue wrote:Boxer1 wrote:Ramstein blue wrote:jinks-rct wrote:I thought Enzo Maccarinelli was banned
Was just a 6 month ban
I believe Enzos ban runs out in the middle of Oct so all being well this fight will go ahead without issue.
Anyone who has seem Ovill McKenzie fight knows Enzo will be up against it here.....
Definitely agree. I watched him put Bellew on the floor, shame he blew up in the rounds after and Bellew showed a bit to much for him.
Should be a decent fight. I think they have found there level fighting against each other. Loser to retire?
Ovill is a good standard of Commonwealth champion but its his power which worries me in regards to the Enzo fight. Ovill could do some serious damage here.....he KO'd Welshman Jeff Evans in about 30 seconds and then blew away seasoned pro Tony Dodson in a few rounds last time out. He's very crude and raw with one punch KO power......the exact opposite of who i beleiev Enzo should be fighting knowing he'll likely be pretty weak at the weight anyway. I genuinely worry for him going into this fight and thats from someone who has always supported Enzo previously.
Never saw the Jeff Evans fight, but not impressed with evans.
I too have always supported Enzo and worry about him going into every fight these days. He never just suffers a normal stoppage against him, he gets KO'd in horrible style for him. Take far to much punishment. Agree that its the wrong weigth for him too
Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:57 pm
englishbluebird wrote:would really enjoy watching clev in an open training session
Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:37 pm
Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:27 pm
Ramstein blue wrote:Haha, well he still does have a punch on him. Just wonder what hes losing in the day or two prior to weigh in. Is he going into the weigh in after spending a good few days prior to weigh in doing sauna sweats and not eating or drinking much.
Who is training him now? Is he still up north with karl Ince or did he come back down here with Gary Lockett?
Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:48 pm
Boxer1 wrote:Ramstein blue wrote:Haha, well he still does have a punch on him. Just wonder what hes losing in the day or two prior to weigh in. Is he going into the weigh in after spending a good few days prior to weigh in doing sauna sweats and not eating or drinking much.
Who is training him now? Is he still up north with karl Ince or did he come back down here with Gary Lockett?
As far as i know he's now with Lockett
Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:59 pm
Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:10 pm
loosecannon wrote:Clev needs to really step up the quality of his opponents if he wants to earn respect, he is the definition of a paper champ.
Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:42 pm
Boxer1 wrote:loosecannon wrote:Clev needs to really step up the quality of his opponents if he wants to earn respect, he is the definition of a paper champ.
Appreciate thats how it seems to the public but believe me, nobody is more frustrated at not being able to land a big fight than Nathan. Big offers have been made to big names and none have come to fruition (word of the day!) hence why he has been out of the ring for almost 8 months trying to land a big fight.
I'm also sure you appreciate that Nathan doesnt pick his opponents as your post seems to suggest. Nathan will fight anyone, i know thats a cliche, but those that know Clev know this to be true.
Anyway, how many tickets am i putting you down for?
Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:25 am
loosecannon wrote:Went to the last fight, so won't be attending this, thought the undercard was pretty poor last time out. Just my opinion of course.
Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:49 am
Boxer1 wrote:loosecannon wrote:Went to the last fight, so won't be attending this, thought the undercard was pretty poor last time out. Just my opinion of course.
I think FW knew the fight was going to sell well regardless last time so didnt invest much on the undercard. Glad to see the local boxers being given a good stage like the Motorpoint to showcase their skills on.
I wouldn't mind the likes of Frankie Gavin and Liam Smith on the undercard again though, both excellent boxers.
Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:43 pm
Ramstein blue wrote:Boxer1 wrote:loosecannon wrote:Went to the last fight, so won't be attending this, thought the undercard was pretty poor last time out. Just my opinion of course.
I think FW knew the fight was going to sell well regardless last time so didnt invest much on the undercard. Glad to see the local boxers being given a good stage like the Motorpoint to showcase their skills on.
I wouldn't mind the likes of Frankie Gavin and Liam Smith on the undercard again though, both excellent boxers.
Is frankie gavin going to train and live like a pro now? Hope he doesn't blow his talent.
Billy Jo would be a great undercard fighter for me with clev. Like the look of Liam smith and all his brothers. But agree FW knew it would sell with a fairground undercard and we all know he is runs his cards like a business.
Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:30 pm
Boxer1 wrote:Ramstein blue wrote:Boxer1 wrote:loosecannon wrote:Went to the last fight, so won't be attending this, thought the undercard was pretty poor last time out. Just my opinion of course.
I think FW knew the fight was going to sell well regardless last time so didnt invest much on the undercard. Glad to see the local boxers being given a good stage like the Motorpoint to showcase their skills on.
I wouldn't mind the likes of Frankie Gavin and Liam Smith on the undercard again though, both excellent boxers.
Is frankie gavin going to train and live like a pro now? Hope he doesn't blow his talent.
Billy Jo would be a great undercard fighter for me with clev. Like the look of Liam smith and all his brothers. But agree FW knew it would sell with a fairground undercard and we all know he is runs his cards like a business.
Frankie Gavin is fighting Junior Witter for his British title i'm led to believe and all being well should be announced in the next week or so. His heads back on it and that is a scary prospect. He's an exceptional boxer with ridiculous skill when fully focused. If he fights Witter i'll be betting on the stoppage because they'll offer good odds and Gavin is bang up for it.
Billy Joe is defending his Commonwealth title on Friday @ York Hall against a very tough Aussie so he defo wont be on Clev undercard. Not many poeple giving Fletcher a chance but he's undefeated and won the Commonwealth Gold medal beating DeGale on the way. Could be a shock on the cards......
Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:35 pm
Ramstein blue wrote:Boxer1 wrote:Ramstein blue wrote:Boxer1 wrote:loosecannon wrote:Went to the last fight, so won't be attending this, thought the undercard was pretty poor last time out. Just my opinion of course.
I think FW knew the fight was going to sell well regardless last time so didnt invest much on the undercard. Glad to see the local boxers being given a good stage like the Motorpoint to showcase their skills on.
I wouldn't mind the likes of Frankie Gavin and Liam Smith on the undercard again though, both excellent boxers.
Is frankie gavin going to train and live like a pro now? Hope he doesn't blow his talent.
Billy Jo would be a great undercard fighter for me with clev. Like the look of Liam smith and all his brothers. But agree FW knew it would sell with a fairground undercard and we all know he is runs his cards like a business.
Frankie Gavin is fighting Junior Witter for his British title i'm led to believe and all being well should be announced in the next week or so. His heads back on it and that is a scary prospect. He's an exceptional boxer with ridiculous skill when fully focused. If he fights Witter i'll be betting on the stoppage because they'll offer good odds and Gavin is bang up for it.
Billy Joe is defending his Commonwealth title on Friday @ York Hall against a very tough Aussie so he defo wont be on Clev undercard. Not many poeple giving Fletcher a chance but he's undefeated and won the Commonwealth Gold medal beating DeGale on the way. Could be a shock on the cards......
Agree Frankie Gavin could be a superstar. Like the look of Billy Joe. I know Bradly Pryce is just a journeyman these days, but Billy Joe wiped the floor with him.
Witter has had his day. Was a good fighter a few years back, but i shall be having a few quid on Gavin.
Off topic. Eubank Jnr has apparently taken Degale apart sparring in the last few days. Bad enough that Degales not sparring him again.
Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:48 pm
citybluechris wrote:Ramstein blue wrote:Boxer1 wrote:Ramstein blue wrote:Boxer1 wrote:loosecannon wrote:Went to the last fight, so won't be attending this, thought the undercard was pretty poor last time out. Just my opinion of course.
I think FW knew the fight was going to sell well regardless last time so didnt invest much on the undercard. Glad to see the local boxers being given a good stage like the Motorpoint to showcase their skills on.
I wouldn't mind the likes of Frankie Gavin and Liam Smith on the undercard again though, both excellent boxers.
Is frankie gavin going to train and live like a pro now? Hope he doesn't blow his talent.
Billy Jo would be a great undercard fighter for me with clev. Like the look of Liam smith and all his brothers. But agree FW knew it would sell with a fairground undercard and we all know he is runs his cards like a business.
Frankie Gavin is fighting Junior Witter for his British title i'm led to believe and all being well should be announced in the next week or so. His heads back on it and that is a scary prospect. He's an exceptional boxer with ridiculous skill when fully focused. If he fights Witter i'll be betting on the stoppage because they'll offer good odds and Gavin is bang up for it.
Billy Joe is defending his Commonwealth title on Friday @ York Hall against a very tough Aussie so he defo wont be on Clev undercard. Not many poeple giving Fletcher a chance but he's undefeated and won the Commonwealth Gold medal beating DeGale on the way. Could be a shock on the cards......
Agree Frankie Gavin could be a superstar. Like the look of Billy Joe. I know Bradly Pryce is just a journeyman these days, but Billy Joe wiped the floor with him.
Witter has had his day. Was a good fighter a few years back, but i shall be having a few quid on Gavin.
Off topic. Eubank Jnr has apparently taken Degale apart sparring in the last few days. Bad enough that Degales not sparring him again.
i wouldnt call bradley a journeyman at the moment hes had a few tough fights as of late noteably his lose to eurp champ rabchenko who recently ko'd ryan rhodes, should of done better against colin loynes but loynes surprised a few by beating lee purdy so that wasnt an easy fight hes had good wins lately against ted bami and lomax but he was outclassed by a brilliant young fighter in saunders, a good run and pryce is right in the mix but his best days are way gone but wouldnt say a journyman
i have also heard about eubank jr rumour but also heard was all over eubank sr hyping jr up sayin u won u smashed degale and it apprently made degale mad since he was taking it easy and not going full plet and eubank jr supposed to have an even bigger ego than degale (if thats even possible) but its all just rumours most probs not much truth in them
Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:01 pm
Boxer1 wrote:MillarFromTheHalfWayLine wrote:Boxer.
Is Nathan staying with Warren for the foreseeable future?
Reason I ask is because I don't believe Warren is giving Nathan the attention he deserves, having
got closer ties you may disagree and I will bow to your knowledge but in my opinion Nathan is not
being handled very well and his fights are just not strong enough and he faces the prospect of becoming forgotten
about. People starting to lose interest, there is little excitement about this fight from what I see and here and people
are saying he's fighting another bum.
Shame really, whats your thoughts?
Its a difficult one because Clev is loyal to Warren (staying with him when Calzaghe etc left shows this) and I know how hard they have tried to land a name for the up coming fight. Big fights have been agreed in principle only to fall through and believe me, money is not the deciding factor in who Clev faces. He is willing to land a unification fight on a low purse knowing that the big fights will come. By the time he fights in October he'll have been out of the ring for 8 months which is craziness and so I'm just glad he's got something finally lined up.
Whilst Uzelkov isn't exactly a high profile name in terms of what everyone expected, he does represent a good solid test and floored one of Clevs main targets, Shumenov, when they fought before losing on points. He also holds a KO win over Campillo who got absolutely robbed when losing on points fighting for the IBF title to another one of Clevs main rivals, Tavoris Cloud. He is also a world bronze amateur medalist losing to David Haye in the semi final so he has good pedigree and Importantly, he is also ranked in the top 10 of the rankings for 3 of the 4 major governing bodies so hopefully a good solid win will boost Clevs profile.
I hope that goes some way to answering part of the question without understandabley going into too much private detail.
Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:48 pm
citybluechris wrote:
i have also heard about eubank jr rumour but also heard was all over eubank sr hyping jr up sayin u won u smashed degale and it apprently made degale mad since he was taking it easy and not going full plet and eubank jr supposed to have an even bigger ego than degale (if thats even possible) but its all just rumours most probs not much truth in them
Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:17 pm