" Dekel Keinan and Robert Earnshaw ? "

Dekel feels he is not wanted by our club and does not understand why.


"@DekelKeinan: cardiff city supporters-I haven't left the club and i've no idea why I've been removed from the squad list on the back of the program."


Part of our clubs problem is the amount of wages he is on, approx £12,000 a week(DJ signing) and other clubs cant afford.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=91764 Hmm

Earnie is not wanted by our club, understands.

Part of our clubs problem is the amount of wages he is on basic approx £13,000 a week, worth up to £20,000 a week.



Both are not Malky's signings.

Both costing us up to £30,000 a week. £1.5mill a year.

What should our club do ?

Send them both out on loan or try and come to an agreement on cancelling their contracts

Really gutted Earnie's second stint never worked out. Still a Cardiff City legend.

Keinan's actually a really good CB. Had a couple of bad games against Middlesborough and Reading, but then so did everyone else.

Apart from that he's looked pretty solid and it seems like he has a good attitude too, I'd give him a chance.

I don't think either are good enough for the first team or backup tbh so i don't really think we need them

Keinan could have been used as backup, There was no need to sign another CB IMO.

Dekel feels he is not wanted by our club and does not understand why.


"@DekelKeinan: cardiff city supporters-I haven't left the club and i've no idea why I've been removed from the squad list on the back of the program."


Part of our clubs problem is the amount of wages he is on, approx £12,000 a week(DJ signing) and other clubs cant afford.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=91764 Hmm

Earnie is not wanted by our club, understands.

Part of our clubs problem is the amount of wages he is on basic approx £13,000 a week, worth up to £20,000 a week.



Both are not Malky's signings.

Both costing us up to £30,000 a week. £1.5mill a year.

What should our club do ?

make them earn their money buy painting the stadium seats red

Presumably Keinan doesn't fit the Malky ethos - I don't see much wrong with him as a 4th choice backup, but with no League Cup matches for him this year, his chances will be limited.

If a League 1 team can afford a couple of grand a week towards his wages, then perhaps he could go out on loan until Christmas.

We signed Earnie when we thought we weren't going to get enough players who wanted to play for us. Subsequently, that problem has not been an issue. Given a couple of injuries, I could still see Earnie being useful off the bench, but a spell in League 1 may be good for him too, especially if he wants to continue playing for Wales.

I would say keep Earnie and send Keinan out on loan, both good players though.

Personally I would keep them both as I feel they both have a lot to offer at this level. But if they are not in Malky's plans at all surely its better to loan them out asap: even if we manage to get half of their wages paid by the club borrowing them we will be saving money currently being used to play two players who are'nt even going to make the bench unless Malky is totally desperate.

Think Dekel is a cracking CB. Great cover and gives us 4 good CB at this level. Would love us to keep him, but understand the wages are high for a 4th choice CB even if the quality is better than most 4th choices.

I think Earnie is an absolute legend, will always be a legend here. But do you carry a legend when hes not good enough for your club and only 31 on high wages. I hope he goes, he deserves to play at league 1 level.

But i hope the club find a place for him somewhere when he hangs up his boots, his finishing was clinical and has seen this club through both stadiums, all leagues and knows the history of the good bad and indifferent times.

If not wanted offer them a payoff get them off the wage bill. Gestede and McPhail can join them also. Don't need either with the quality we have now.

If they go out on loan and we split their wages fifty fifty with the other club, then we cut our losses but can still bring them back in an emergency.

Dekel feels he is not wanted by our club and does not understand why.


"@DekelKeinan: cardiff city supporters-I haven't left the club and i've no idea why I've been removed from the squad list on the back of the program."


Part of our clubs problem is the amount of wages he is on, approx £12,000 a week(DJ signing) and other clubs cant afford.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=91764 Hmm

Earnie is not wanted by our club, understands.

Part of our clubs problem is the amount of wages he is on basic approx £13,000 a week, worth up to £20,000 a week.



Both are not Malky's signings.

Both costing us up to £30,000 a week. £1.5mill a year.

What should our club do ?

I was talking with Dekel the other day up the Vale, he told me him self he feels he must move on as he needs to play. he is a hell of a nice guy, and last season when his bother and his family were here , my little boy was sitting talking to them. After he finished training , he walk back up holding my boys hand. He told me he dont want to leave as he like this club and wants to play for us. He told me him self he don't know what he has to do get get a chance.

Keinan could have been used as backup, There was no need to sign another CB IMO.

not if your looking to go up to the prem. hes ok. alright. but we must have better cover

I Don't say how we can say we're short on centre halves when we let anthony gerrard and now maybe keinan go? You're not going to get better cover at centre half than those two at this level

Dekel feels he is not wanted by our club and does not understand why.


"@DekelKeinan: cardiff city supporters-I haven't left the club and i've no idea why I've been removed from the squad list on the back of the program."


Part of our clubs problem is the amount of wages he is on, approx £12,000 a week(DJ signing) and other clubs cant afford.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=91764 Hmm

Earnie is not wanted by our club, understands.

Part of our clubs problem is the amount of wages he is on basic approx £13,000 a week, worth up to £20,000 a week.



Both are not Malky's signings.

Both costing us up to £30,000 a week. £1.5mill a year.

What should our club do ?

I was talking with Dekel the other day up the Vale, he told me him self he feels he must move on as he needs to play. he is a hell of a nice guy, and last season when his bother and his family were here , my little boy was sitting talking to them. After he finished training , he walk back up holding my boys hand. He told me he dont want to leave as he like this club and wants to play for us. He told me him self he don't know what he has to do get get a chance.

Roy, I've been told he is a true gent and has not been told where he stands, I rate him, but Malky's the boss and I respect who he choses first.

Pay them off or offer them as free tansfers in the window, some 1st division clubs then like Sheff U may be desperate for a striker or Centre half, or a team trying to avoid relegation like Palace ???

In the meantime maybe loan them out to get them back in the shop window ready...

Keinan could have been used as backup, There was no need to sign another CB IMO.

Yer he is good in the air too, scored a few times for us.

If we could then get rid of Earnie and send Keinan out on loan and just keep Nugent.

Dekel feels he is not wanted by our club and does not understand why.


"@DekelKeinan: cardiff city supporters-I haven't left the club and i've no idea why I've been removed from the squad list on the back of the program."


Part of our clubs problem is the amount of wages he is on, approx £12,000 a week(DJ signing) and other clubs cant afford.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=91764 Hmm

Earnie is not wanted by our club, understands.

Part of our clubs problem is the amount of wages he is on basic approx £13,000 a week, worth up to £20,000 a week.



Both are not Malky's signings.

Both costing us up to £30,000 a week. £1.5mill a year.

What should our club do ?

Ask Sam Annis.

Pointless asking us plebs, you've been in business all your life so are well experienced in the twists and turns. What would Sam do? This is coming from my heart, I did think about a pm but no, heart on the sleeve as they say. You have enough financial fire power to really screw the lefty's, but you don't.

Your father achieved so much for his family, Sam tried the same. From what I can work out there something not your're not or are very relucant to put into print.

I don't give a f**k at the end of the day, Cardiff are the team I support, Wales away of course

I do still have voting rights in the UK so if if you want to stand for UK Prime Minister you got one. The socialists have ensured that I cannot vote on Welsh Assembly stuff or so they think.

Oh I need to have a word with you about "My Story".. Sack Carl..

I have no sympathy either way if I'm honest.

The club gave them the contracts so they need to be paid.

If these people love football they could leave but no matter how matter how professional they love money more than the game.
I'm sure the club would agree to mutually terminate both players deals. No doubt neither want to for financial reasons and i don't blame them but I certainly don't feel sorry for them.

I think freezing them out is the only way to move them on.

If we could lose both it would be ideal.

It's a weakness TBH, the way he bombs out players like this.There's nothing wrong with Keinan and Earnshaw at this level. Would you rather keep their heads up and keep them involved in case you need to use them or bomb them out?

Remember Keinan is just one injury away from starting right now, with Darcy gone.

FWIW, he was pissed off with Keinana because he tweeted some transfer deal before it was signed and sealed.

It's a weakness TBH, the way he bombs out players like this.There's nothing wrong with Keinan and Earnshaw at this level. Would you rather keep their heads up and keep them involved in case you need to use them or bomb them out?

Remember Keinan is just one injury away from starting right now, with Darcy gone.

FWIW, he was pissed off with Keinana because he tweeted some transfer deal before it was signed and sealed.

Malky will have his reasons, maybe the little group were negative, or causing a split in the group, anyway Malky has got rid of two that he didn't want and needs to move on another two. Once they are gone he can use the money for better players.

With the injury to Turner I expected to see Keinan on the bench against Wolves but Malkay chose to go with Nugent a young and untried defender instead. This tells you everything you need to know about his position at the club so if he wants to play football he needs to move on. With the transfer window closed than means a loan transfer for a maximum of 93 days and the club should do everything they can even it it means paying half of his wages. In january look to pay up his contract or offer him a free transfer because his wages are very high for a player who isn't going to figure.

Earnie is the bigger problem in my opinion because for a couple of seasons before he joined us he didn't play that often for Forest. In his last season he only started half their games and was subbed in 9 of them, the season before he started only 20 and was subbed 13 times. Earnie has seen his career decline for the last 3 seasons, under 2 managers, so it shouldn't really surprise us that not even a return to his home club has reviatalised his career. For Earnie the MLS is probably his best hope of getting football with a decent wage. We should tell his agent he can have a free transfer to an MLS club if he can arrange it.


Sad to see a club legend like Earnie struggle like this but he isn't the first and he won't be the last.

If Keinan is such a good quality back up, then how come after going on loan to Bristol and Palace neither have come back for him, or any other club for that matter.

Really nice bloke, but not good enough.

Earnie will always be a legend but willl get zero league game time this season.

If Keinan is such a good quality back up, then how come after going on loan to Bristol and Palace neither have come back for him, or any other club for that matter.

Really nice bloke, but not good enough.

Earnie will always be a legend but willl get zero league game time this season.

I agree with both comments, and both players need to be off our wage bill ASAP

loan them out or just release them.

I would def loan them out and get half the wages back at least, if Malky does not want them.

It's a weakness TBH, the way he bombs out players like this.There's nothing wrong with Keinan and Earnshaw at this level. Would you rather keep their heads up and keep them involved in case you need to use them or bomb them out?

Remember Keinan is just one injury away from starting right now, with Darcy gone.

FWIW, he was pissed off with Keinana because he tweeted some transfer deal before it was signed and sealed.

Clearly he isn't as he didn't make the bench so Connelly and nugent are ahead of him and obviously Turner is when he returns against Leeds.

I'd do the same as MM if I'm honest and try and force them out. Neither are good enough for the bench IMO and its costing a lot of money.