When will the government close the borders?

Not really a shame

Just some interesting stuff from the papers; I thought so anyway.

OhhhGa no more Plagiarism please.
I was enjoying your debate and you were holding your own for a while so no need to nick other peoples thoughts to get you piont across.

Keep it up though and one day maybe you will ascend to the same intellecual plane as me and then be worthy of debating with me

I surpassed your "plane" a long while ago my friend

Not really a shame

Just some interesting stuff from the papers; I thought so anyway.

OhhhGa no more Plagiarism please.
I was enjoying your debate and you were holding your own for a while so no need to nick other peoples thoughts to get you piont across.

Keep it up though and one day maybe you will ascend to the same intellecual plane as me and then be worthy of debating with me

I surpassed your "plane" a long while ago my friend

We shall see!
In the meantime it is my belief that this is where you "lifted" it from.
http://debatewise.org/debates/784-the-u ... ean-union/

Spoilt David and DTM have left the closet.

Although I sniff the hand of Baker and his left wing masters (masterbaters would be more appropriate) here.

As for the original post, we, well you as I don't live in the UK anymore can close the borders to a certain extent. Unfortunately the lefties got rid of Thatcher who was about the only so called politician in the last allah knows how long had the balls to stand up for the UK. Like it not or not the left leaning European Government regard us all as commodities, free movement throughout Europe for all for the "right to work", etc.

Ah can't be arsed, just spent a good 30 minutes writing replies but deleted. It's your life do with it what you want cos you only get one shot at it.

Spoilt David and DTM have left the closet.

Although I sniff the hand of Baker and his left wing masters (masterbaters would be more appropriate) here.

As for the original post, we, well you as I don't live in the UK anymore can close the borders to a certain extent. Unfortunately the lefties got rid of Thatcher who was about the only so called politician in the last allah knows how long had the balls to stand up for the UK. Like it not or not the left leaning European Government regard us all as commodities, free movement throughout Europe for all for the "right to work", etc.

Ah can't be arsed, just spent a good 30 minutes writing replies but deleted. It's your life do with it what you want cos you only get one shot at it.

Margaret Thatcher crushed the hopes and dreams of many in this country and also opened the f*cking doors to the commonwealth countries, a far worse breed of immigrant as they think their shit don't smell because of their affiliations to the old girl in Windsor.

Not really a shame

Just some interesting stuff from the papers; I thought so anyway.

I did suspect that you'd lifted it from somewhere, assumed incorrectly that is was from one of the amoebae that infest the other board. Not that I read "newspapers", haven't for years apart from the Times as that's often given free on flights, which "paper" one assumes the guardian, daily express, something of that ilk? Can't be the "Mirror" that's just a free ads paper.

You assumed I was a Daily Express reader? That is quite insulting. Usually it depends on how much change I have at the time, so it varies from 'The Times', 'The Guardian' , The Independent', and most frequently the 20p 'i' (being a poor soul).

Immigrants coming t this country is not a new problem in the late 18th century & early 19th century ( Jack the ripper time) & for example the east end of London was overun with east european migrants & this caused problems but the difference was & fair play t them they intergrated ( learned the language etc) into british society unlike these lot coming over now.

English people are moving into Wales increasingly t escape the major cities ( Liverpool/Manchester/Birmingham/London) that have become more alien t them with immigrants taking over neighbourhoods & refusing t intergrate into british society but anyone who questions this is accused of being a racist by the leftie press brigade.

But do these elitist people who make decisions on immigration have to live with the consequences, well of course not unlike the general public
For example
When was the last time you seen your mp down your doctors surgery receiving treatment, they usually have private healthcare don't they?
When did your local mp move into an your street t live, they usually live in extravagant splendour in the leafy suburbs & its doubtful they live in a street full of immigrants do they?.
Mp's children mostly have the benefit of a private education unlike the rest of us who have t make do with state schools that are increasingly become overun with children who do not speak english so school resources are spent on them t the detriment of our children.

What this feeble goverment need to do is what the Greeks are doing

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ation.html

If not we will see a rise in these sort of incidents

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-w ... -31389026/

"What this feeble government need to do is what the Greeks are doing"

*Inserts Daily Mail link*

Funniest thing I've read in a while. The Greeks AND the Daily Heil

"What this feeble government need to do is what the Greeks are doing"

*Inserts Daily Mail link*

Funniest thing I've read in a while. The Greeks AND the Daily Heil

OhhhGa could not find a Guardian link for you



Will this do then



http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/07/world ... thens.html

Thanks, much better

"What this feeble government need to do is what the Greeks are doing"

*Inserts Daily Mail link*

Funniest thing I've read in a while. The Greeks AND the Daily Heil

OhhhGa could not find a Guardian link for you



Will this do then



http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/07/world ... thens.html

The lunatic left wing let half of the f*cking commonwealth in. The immigration minister under labour ought to be charged for treason, is crime is taking the great from great Britain it's like Moga f*cking dishu in Cardiff.

1948 you are a bore off, you moan and spout that much crap you even give my arse a head ache! The worst thing is i bite at your posts! it riles me that i do it! haha

I work with guys from Norway, USA, Canada, Spain, UK, France, Italy, Poland, Germany and probably about 20 more, and id take having them in the UK every time over a moaning troll like you.

Time is time, now is the time. We are full to bursting with immigrants and that is not including the vast amount of foreigners who are here for the olympics. We are not only letting huge amounts of people from pakistan but also a load of yanks who think it's cool to live in "GB BABY". Well f**k off because we are full.

Enough is enough Mr Cameron I couldn't buy a pint of milk this morning because a polish man bought the f*cking lot.

This from a troll who says Welsh Nationalists are Nazis for wanting INDEPENDANCE.

Nothing in the Plaid manifesto that says "shoot that n*gger"

Time is time, now is the time. We are full to bursting with immigrants and that is not including the vast amount of foreigners who are here for the olympics. We are not only letting huge amounts of people from pakistan but also a load of yanks who think it's cool to live in "GB BABY". Well f**k off because we are full.

Enough is enough Mr Cameron I couldn't buy a pint of milk this morning because a polish man bought the f*cking lot.

This from a troll who says Welsh Nationalists are Nazis for wanting INDEPENDANCE.

Nothing in the Plaid manifesto that says "shoot that n*gger"

It's insinuated though, Plaid are fools.

Time is time, now is the time. We are full to bursting with immigrants and that is not including the vast amount of foreigners who are here for the olympics. We are not only letting huge amounts of people from pakistan but also a load of yanks who think it's cool to live in "GB BABY". Well f**k off because we are full.

Enough is enough Mr Cameron I couldn't buy a pint of milk this morning because a polish man bought the f*cking lot.

This from a troll who says Welsh Nationalists are Nazis for wanting INDEPENDANCE.

Nothing in the Plaid manifesto that says "shoot that n*gger"

It doesn't say that in the BNP manifesto either but they are as racist as Plaid maybe marginally worse.

Cardiff, especially TigerBay, is well known as being amongst the first cities in the UK to welcome immigrants. We have a rich history in this city for tolerance and acceptance of all races, and every area of Cardiff now boasts diversity in colour, religion and culture. I'm sure the majority of people here are completely fine with this diversiy, and even those on this board with harsher words are probably typing them "tounge in cheek".

Many immigrants that come to Cardiff/ Wales/ UK are seeking asylum as they are at threat of substandard life/ torture/ death if they remain in thier home countries for whatever reason, and once they are here they get hassle of pricks who cant be fucked to wait 5 minutes for another pint of milk.

The problem is that this is a message board that represents fans of Cardiff City and, furthermore, the people of Cardiff. There will be many fans of other Championship clubs reading this website before they come down for an awayday, and thinking that we are all a bunch of right-wing conservative nutjobs, intolerant of foreigners.

Im sure that very few people here buy/ read the Sun for the disgusting things they have written about our fellow football fans, but its also papers such as the Daily Mail spreading this right-wing nonsense in everything they do, without many people
realising.

Cardiff is a fantastic, vibrant city and a lot of that is from imigration. f**k the Nazis on here, in the street and in the press that tell you that you deserve a better quality of life just because you were born on to a bit of ground that you had absolutely no control over.

Time is time, now is the time. We are full to bursting with immigrants and that is not including the vast amount of foreigners who are here for the olympics. We are not only letting huge amounts of people from pakistan but also a load of yanks who think it's cool to live in "GB BABY". Well f**k off because we are full.

Enough is enough Mr Cameron I couldn't buy a pint of milk this morning because a polish man bought the f*cking lot.

This from a troll who says Welsh Nationalists are Nazis for wanting INDEPENDANCE.

Nothing in the Plaid manifesto that says "shoot that n*gger"

It's insinuated though, Plaid are fools.

If your going to argue politics. Dont make things up.

Plaid are the LEAST racist party you will ever come across. So much so that their
immigration policy borders on stupidity. They will let ANYONE in, in droves. The
only stipulation would be that they learn rudimentary Welsh, as well as English.

Cardiff, especially TigerBay, is well known as being amongst the first cities in the UK to welcome immigrants. We have a rich history in this city for tolerance and acceptance of all races, and every area of Cardiff now boasts diversity in colour, religion and culture. I'm sure the majority of people here are completely fine with this diversiy, and even those on this board with harsher words are probably typing them "tounge in cheek".

Many immigrants that come to Cardiff/ Wales/ UK are seeking asylum as they are at threat of substandard life/ torture/ death if they remain in thier home countries for whatever reason, and once they are here they get hassle of pricks who cant be fucked to wait 5 minutes for another pint of milk.

The problem is that this is a message board that represents fans of Cardiff City and, furthermore, the people of Cardiff. There will be many fans of other Championship clubs reading this website before they come down for an awayday, and thinking that we are all a bunch of right-wing conservative nutjobs, intolerant of foreigners.

Im sure that very few people here buy/ read the Sun for the disgusting things they have written about our fellow football fans, but its also papers such as the Daily Mail spreading this right-wing nonsense in everything they do, without many people
realising.

Cardiff is a fantastic, vibrant city and a lot of that is from imigration. f**k the Nazis on here, in the street and in the press that tell you that you deserve a better quality of life just because you were born on to a bit of ground that you had absolutely no control over.

The vast majority of people claiming political asylum in the UK travel via about
TEN different 'safe' countries to get here. So they are liars.

I'm not anti-immigration any more than I am 'anti' colour? I agree its generations
of immigration that have given Cardiff its uniqueness

But enough is enough.

If a person does not a marketable trade or a solid job waiting for him/her... then
f**k em. Cardiff was one of the first Citys to get an influx of Somali people, lovely
folk. Now?? Do you believe the new wave of Somalis are good for Cardiff or Wales?
The only check made on them is "i was persecuted boss"...

ok, Welcome to Britain.

Bollocks!!!

Nothing made up, Plaid are xenophobic with regards to the folk across the border. Anyhow, nationalism is never far from shameless racism.

Nothing made up, Plaid are xenophobic with regards to the folk across the border. Anyhow, nationalism is never far from shameless racism.

Never far eh?

The Welsh are not a 'race' neither are the English. So your wrong. End of.

As for 'shameless racism'

The whole WORLD is racist. Britain is one of the least racist Countries I've
ever been in.

You wanna see REAL racism... watch the Pakistanis in action

You (along with good old UK Media manipulation) are making out that racism is
this EVIL entity stalking the world. Is it f**k. Mainly its just ignorance and lack
of education.

Nothing made up, Plaid are xenophobic with regards to the folk across the border. Anyhow, nationalism is never far from shameless racism.

Never far eh?

The Welsh are not a 'race' neither are the English. So your wrong. End of.

As for 'shameless racism'

The whole WORLD is racist. Britain is one of the least racist Countries I've
ever been in.

You wanna see REAL racism... watch the Pakistanis in action

You (along with good old UK Media manipulation) are making out that racism is
this EVIL entity stalking the world. Is it f**k. Mainly its just ignorance and lack
of education.

Did I say either were a race? No, I said plaid were xenophobic, which differs from racism entirely.

You seem to be ranting (for no discernible reason) about the worlds perception of racism and the mighty power of the UK media. It's irrelevant, I merely stated that nationalism is never far from racism and xenophabia (as history shows).

Nothing made up, Plaid are xenophobic with regards to the folk across the border. Anyhow, nationalism is never far from shameless racism.

Never far eh?

The Welsh are not a 'race' neither are the English. So your wrong. End of.

As for 'shameless racism'

The whole WORLD is racist. Britain is one of the least racist Countries I've
ever been in.

You wanna see REAL racism... watch the Pakistanis in action

You (along with good old UK Media manipulation) are making out that racism is
this EVIL entity stalking the world. Is it f**k. Mainly its just ignorance and lack
of education.

Did I say either were a race? No, I said plaid were xenophobic, which differs from racism entirely.

You seem to be ranting (for no discernible reason) about the worlds perception of racism and the mighty power of the UK media. It's irrelevant, I merely stated that nationalism is never far from racism and xenophabia (as history shows).

So xenophobia ( an irrational dislike of foreigners and ) differs from racism entirely?

Yet Nationalism is NEVER far from racism???? What has nationalism in Wales got to do
with colour? pray tell??

My idea of 'Nationalism' is for Wales to stand independant from London and handle our
own affairs. What the flying f**k has that got to do with Racism??? If the First Minister
is a second generation West Indian from the docks I couldnt care a toss, as long as he
is good at his job

The conditions in Wales are ripe for independence isn't it. We've got really good transport links between North and South, loads and loads of taxpayers to pay for the minimal amount of people employed in the public sector.

FFS get a f*cking grip, more than half of this country are either on the dole or employed in the public sector, you do the f*cking maths Dai Hitler. Plaid are a backward and immoral party and have National Socialism at the heart of their policies.

Old people are a massive burden on the economy. There's not much we can do about that though is there?

The conditions in Wales are ripe for independence isn't it. We've got really good transport links between North and South, loads and loads of taxpayers to pay for the minimal amount of people employed in the public sector.

FFS get a f*cking grip, more than half of this country are either on the dole or employed in the public sector, you do the f*cking maths Dai Hitler. Plaid are a backward and immoral party and have National Socialism at the heart of their policies.

Firstly, YOU start the thread with "send em back, close the borders"

then accuse others of being Nazis. Silly tw*t.

Show me ONE example of a bit of underhanded 'Nazi-ness' in the Plaid
Manifesto

you either talk shit cos you just like to argue. Or you talk shit cos your a right
thick fucker hiding behind "look at me im 70 yrs old"............ boring person

Nothing made up, Plaid are xenophobic with regards to the folk across the border. Anyhow, nationalism is never far from shameless racism.

Never far eh?

The Welsh are not a 'race' neither are the English. So your wrong. End of.

As for 'shameless racism'

The whole WORLD is racist. Britain is one of the least racist Countries I've
ever been in.

You wanna see REAL racism... watch the Pakistanis in action

You (along with good old UK Media manipulation) are making out that racism is
this EVIL entity stalking the world. Is it f**k. Mainly its just ignorance and lack
of education.

Did I say either were a race? No, I said plaid were xenophobic, which differs from racism entirely.

You seem to be ranting (for no discernible reason) about the worlds perception of racism and the mighty power of the UK media. It's irrelevant, I merely stated that nationalism is never far from racism and xenophabia (as history shows).

So xenophobia ( an irrational dislike of foreigners and ) differs from racism entirely?

Yet Nationalism is NEVER far from racism???? What has nationalism in Wales got to do
with colour? pray tell??

My idea of 'Nationalism' is for Wales to stand independant from London and handle our
own affairs. What the flying f**k has that got to do with Racism??? If the First Minister
is a second generation West Indian from the docks I couldnt care a toss, as long as he
is good at his job

Yes it does as xenophobia, as you said, is the dislike of those from other countries, whereas racism usually focuses upon race and ethnicity. I should have said xenophobia in my original statement, my apologies.

I'm sure you can figure out what Plaid, and Welsh nationalism, has to do with xenophobia.

Nothing made up, Plaid are xenophobic with regards to the folk across the border. Anyhow, nationalism is never far from shameless racism.

Never far eh?

The Welsh are not a 'race' neither are the English. So your wrong. End of.

As for 'shameless racism'

The whole WORLD is racist. Britain is one of the least racist Countries I've
ever been in.

You wanna see REAL racism... watch the Pakistanis in action

You (along with good old UK Media manipulation) are making out that racism is
this EVIL entity stalking the world. Is it f**k. Mainly its just ignorance and lack
of education.

Did I say either were a race? No, I said plaid were xenophobic, which differs from racism entirely.

You seem to be ranting (for no discernible reason) about the worlds perception of racism and the mighty power of the UK media. It's irrelevant, I merely stated that nationalism is never far from racism and xenophabia (as history shows).

So xenophobia ( an irrational dislike of foreigners and ) differs from racism entirely?

Yet Nationalism is NEVER far from racism???? What has nationalism in Wales got to do
with colour? pray tell??

My idea of 'Nationalism' is for Wales to stand independant from London and handle our
own affairs. What the flying f**k has that got to do with Racism??? If the First Minister
is a second generation West Indian from the docks I couldnt care a toss, as long as he
is good at his job

Yes it does as xenophobia, as you said, is the dislike of those from other countries, whereas racism usually focuses upon race and ethnicity. I should have said xenophobia in my original statement, my apologies.

I'm sure you can figure out what Plaid, and Welsh nationalism, has to do with xenophobia.

Right well, we've ascertained that Xenophobia is an irrational dislike of foreigners
But as I've said, Plaid would swamp the country with cheap labour from all over
the world. They are more wishy-washy and liberal than the liberals. So you must
just mean the English then? Not seen anything in the Manifesto to stop English
tourists though feller? Again, you must be mixing up Plaid Cymru expecting new
people to Wales to gain a rudimentary knowledge of Welsh with hatred of all
things English. ok.

The conditions in Wales are ripe for independence isn't it. We've got really good transport links between North and South, loads and loads of taxpayers to pay for the minimal amount of people employed in the public sector.

FFS get a f*cking grip, more than half of this country are either on the dole or employed in the public sector, you do the f*cking maths Dai Hitler. Plaid are a backward and immoral party and have National Socialism at the heart of their policies.

Firstly, YOU start the thread with "send em back, close the borders"

then accuse others of being Nazis. Silly tw*t.

Show me ONE example of a bit of underhanded 'Nazi-ness' in the Plaid


Manifesto

you either talk shit cos you just like to argue. Or you talk shit cos your a right
thick fucker hiding behind "look at me im 70 yrs old"............ boring person

britains fiscal policy is based on a drip feed policy, ie we let the rich bankers do what the f**k they want in the hope they might just give us a fiver if we shine their shoes for them. If the tories get their new constituencies through we will be stuck with a tory gove for ever just feeding london and the bankers, the Scotts have the back up of the North Sea reserves but we have renewable energy, water, potential heavy industry coal, agriculture and tourism, true we do seem to have a large number of lazy fuckers but if we stick a spike up their arses and put a few pensioners out of their misery (i'm sure we can think of one) we will be sorted.
Btw will you stop calling Welsh people nazis when you want to repatriate everyone who can't say they were born in the Heath you daft old spanner.
"it must be so fun, being som f*cking dumb"

The conditions in Wales are ripe for independence isn't it. We've got really good transport links between North and South, loads and loads of taxpayers to pay for the minimal amount of people employed in the public sector.

FFS get a f*cking grip, more than half of this country are either on the dole or employed in the public sector, you do the f*cking maths Dai Hitler. Plaid are a backward and immoral party and have National Socialism at the heart of their policies.

Firstly, YOU start the thread with "send em back, close the borders"

then accuse others of being Nazis. Silly tw*t.

Show me ONE example of a bit of underhanded 'Nazi-ness' in the Plaid


Manifesto

you either talk shit cos you just like to argue. Or you talk shit cos your a right
thick fucker hiding behind "look at me im 70 yrs old"............ boring person

britains fiscal policy is based on a drip feed policy, ie we let the rich bankers do what the f**k they want in the hope they might just give us a fiver if we shine their shoes for them. If the tories get their new constituencies through we will be stuck with a tory gove for ever just feeding london and the bankers, the Scotts have the back up of the North Sea reserves but we have renewable energy, water, potential heavy industry coal, agriculture and tourism, true we do seem to have a large number of lazy fuckers but if we stick a spike up their arses and put a few pensioners out of their misery (i'm sure we can think of one) we will be sorted.
Btw will you stop calling Welsh people nazis when you want to repatriate everyone who can't say they were born in the Heath you daft old spanner.
"it must be so fun, being som f*cking dumb"

It's just that easy isn't it, all you have to do is get a few lazy cunts in the valleys to work and promote tourism and we have a perfectly viable independent Wales.

Unbe f*cking lieveable.

Just to piont out, it is proven that we'd be economically better off.

Just to piont out, it is proven that we'd be economically better off.

No, no it isn't.