Joe Allen close to Liverpool switch

£15m apparently which I think is fair game considering Henderson cost £20m.

I know people will say Arsenal only paid £5.6m for Ramsey but transfer fees weren't as inflated then and we got ripped off at a time we needed to sell and bring in the money. If this was now and we had Ramsey he'd command the same type of fee in my honest opinion.

I dont think thats an inflated fee. His passing last season was amazing and only going to get better with the likes of Gerrard next to him.

Could be good for the future of Welsh football too if Allen is playing alongside Gerrard and Lucas and Ramsey is playing alongside Arteta and Song in similar attacking and fluid setups.

Lets not have a go at the move just because hes a Jack, lets be realistic here. Its a good move for Welsh football.

Yes it is

Hes a nice little player. Strange one though they got a number of neat players in the same mould - Lucas, Henderson, Adam, Spearing.

Yes but their not Rodgers players , he likes the comfort factor of having someone who won't talk back to him if it goes tits up

Hes a nice little player. Strange one though they got a number of neat players in the same mould - Lucas, Henderson, Adam, Spearing.

Henderson, Adam and Spearing are all not as good as Allen or Ramsey IMO. Henderson should have cost Liverpool £12m max which is why I think £15m for Allen is fair game.

He'll probably go with a three in the middle of Gerrard Lucas Allen then up front Suarez that Borini guy and whoever else they got. Cant see them using Downing as hes rubbish.

Hes a nice little player. Strange one though they got a number of neat players in the same mould - Lucas, Henderson, Adam, Spearing.

Henderson, Adam and Spearing are all not as good as Allen or Ramsey IMO. Henderson should have cost Liverpool £12m max which is why I think £15m for Allen is fair game.

He'll probably go with a three in the middle of Gerrard Lucas Allen then up front Suarez that Borini guy and whoever else they got. Cant see them using Downing as hes rubbish.

Andy Caroll

Hes a nice little player. Strange one though they got a number of neat players in the same mould - Lucas, Henderson, Adam, Spearing.

Henderson, Adam and Spearing are all not as good as Allen or Ramsey IMO. Henderson should have cost Liverpool £12m max which is why I think £15m for Allen is fair game.

He'll probably go with a three in the middle of Gerrard Lucas Allen then up front Suarez that Borini guy and whoever else they got. Cant see them using Downing as hes rubbish.

Andy Caroll

He'll either be sold or on the bench. The front 3 will have flair and loads of energy to press like Suarez and Borini. I dont know who else they'll sign, will probably depend on if they get rid of the likes of Adam and Carroll. I doubt anyone will buy them for anything significant tbh.

In todays Football 15Mil isn't that much to a club like Liverpool really. Good player but I'm not sure about the price tag. He's not fit to lace Ramseys boots IMO.

Oh and One good thing, The heart of Swansea's team has been ripped out. Sigurdson, Allen and Bironi All gone.

Oh and One good thing, The heart of Swansea's team has been ripped out. Sigurdson, Allen and Bironi All gone.

Try and keep up Borini wasn't ours and never played last year , siggy again a loanee, and if Joe goes he's already been replaced , and we're 13 million to the good ,

Oh and One good thing, The heart of Swansea's team has been ripped out. Sigurdson, Allen and Bironi All gone.

Try and keep up Borini wasn't ours and never played last year , siggy again a loanee, and if Joe goes he's already been replaced , and we're 13 million to the good ,

I know they were loaned players, But the team that done so well last year is not that same team.

Oh and One good thing, The heart of Swansea's team has been ripped out. Sigurdson, Allen and Bironi All gone.

Try and keep up Borini wasn't ours and never played last year , siggy again a loanee, and if Joe goes he's already been replaced , and we're 13 million to the good ,

I know they were loaned players, But the team that done so well last year is not that same team.

To be fair, Britton was their best player by far. He is still there. Sinclair had a quietish season. Dyer was brilliant when i saw them on TV against Arsenal and Liverpool. He is still there. They've brought in this new guy with a name like a Pokemon and he's a good decent player as i've seen him playing in Spain. He will slot in quite nicely in the void left by Allen. Graham isn't as good as Borini and I think most Jacks will admit that but he was never their's and Graham did a good enough job last season for his first spell in the Prem. Their main problem is a sigurdsson replacement. With £13m left over expect them to spend about £6-8m on that player.

Oh and One good thing, The heart of Swansea's team has been ripped out. Sigurdson, Allen and Bironi All gone.

Try and keep up Borini wasn't ours and never played last year , siggy again a loanee, and if Joe goes he's already been replaced , and we're 13 million to the good ,

I know they were loaned players, But the team that done so well last year is not that same team.

To be fair, Britton was their best player by far. He is still there. Sinclair had a quietish season. Dyer was brilliant when i saw them on TV against Arsenal and Liverpool. He is still there. They've brought in this new guy with a name like a Pokemon and he's a good decent player as i've seen him playing in Spain. He will slot in quite nicely in the void left by Allen. Graham isn't as good as Borini and I think most Jacks will admit that but he was never their's and Graham did a good enough job last season for his first spell in the Prem. Their main problem is a sigurdsson replacement. With £13m left over expect them to spend about £6-8m on that player.

I believe the player they signed today, michu? Is the same type of player as sigurddsson, could be wrong though

I thought there was a clause saying Brenda couldn't rape the jack squad for a year or so??

Oh and One good thing, The heart of Swansea's team has been ripped out. Sigurdson, Allen and Bironi All gone.

Try and keep up Borini wasn't ours and never played last year , siggy again a loanee, and if Joe goes he's already been replaced , and we're 13 million to the good ,

I know they were loaned players, But the team that done so well last year is not that same team.

To be fair, Britton was their best player by far. He is still there. Sinclair had a quietish season. Dyer was brilliant when i saw them on TV against Arsenal and Liverpool. He is still there. They've brought in this new guy with a name like a Pokemon and he's a good decent player as i've seen him playing in Spain. He will slot in quite nicely in the void left by Allen. Graham isn't as good as Borini and I think most Jacks will admit that but he was never their's and Graham did a good enough job last season for his first spell in the Prem. Their main problem is a sigurdsson replacement. With £13m left over expect them to spend about £6-8m on that player.

I believe the player they signed today, michu? Is the same type of player as sigurddsson, could be wrong though

Correct. 15 goals in La Liga from midfield last season signed for £2m.

I thought there was a clause saying Brenda couldn't rape the jack squad for a year or so??

Gentlemans agreement. The agreement is that whatever valuation Swansea put on a player Liverpool must honour if they want that player. Swansea put a £15m valuation on Joe Allen knowing there is a chance Liverpool would pay that and now Liverpool will pay around that figure.

All this nonsense about 12 months is exactly that, nonsense. Also, there is no need for a transfer bid from another club, that is nonsense too.

It was a basic honourable gentleman's agreement. The agreement was 'you put a price on a player and we'll honour it'. Swansea never said £25m because they knew Rodgers wouldn't pay that so they stuck a realistic fee on him knowing they could cash in on Allen.

Oh and One good thing, The heart of Swansea's team has been ripped out. Sigurdson, Allen and Bironi All gone.

As much as I hate to say it the Jacks have thus far signed some really good players, especially Michu, mark my words the lad could prove to be an early contender for siging of the season. £2m is an absolute steal, 15 La Liga goals laast season from midfield plus a number of assists in a very poor Rayo team. De Guzman and Chico are also good signings, as long as they adapt to English football quickly the Swans will be very comfortable in mid-table.

Allen is one of few Swansea players who ain't massively overrated

Oh and One good thing, The heart of Swansea's team has been ripped out. Sigurdson, Allen and Bironi All gone.

Try and keep up Borini wasn't ours and never played last year , siggy again a loanee, and if Joe goes he's already been replaced , and we're 13 million to the good ,

Bitter be f**ked

Oh and One good thing, The heart of Swansea's team has been ripped out. Sigurdson, Allen and Bironi All gone.

Try and keep up Borini wasn't ours and never played last year , siggy again a loanee, and if Joe goes he's already been replaced , and we're 13 million to the good ,

Bitter be f**ked

On what possible planet was that post bitter?

Apart from Mars of course. The RED planet

Oh and One good thing, The heart of Swansea's team has been ripped out. Sigurdson, Allen and Bironi All gone.

Try and keep up Borini wasn't ours and never played last year , siggy again a loanee, and if Joe goes he's already been replaced , and we're 13 million to the good ,

Bitter be f**ked

On what possible planet was that post bitter?

Apart from Mars of course. The RED planet

He loved them players they was his favourites!

Allen is one of few Swansea players who ain't massively overrated

I know you're a mod so I'll word this carefully but come on, he was arguably their second best player last year and he performed very well in a GB team that was just finding its feet. He's been exceptional of recent. Stop being blinkered by the CCFC lights and have a realistic view of football. As much as hurts to say because he is a jack he has been class.

Allen is one of few Swansea players who ain't massively overrated

I know you're a mod so I'll word this carefully but come on, he was arguably their second best player last year and he performed very well in a GB team that was just finding its feet. He's been exceptional of recent. Stop being blinkered by the CCFC lights and have a realistic view of football. As much as hurts to say because he is a jack he has been class.

That's why I said he isn't massively overrated
I think he is a cracking player.

Allen is one of few Swansea players who ain't massively overrated

I know you're a mod so I'll word this carefully but come on, he was arguably their second best player last year and he performed very well in a GB team that was just finding its feet. He's been exceptional of recent. Stop being blinkered by the CCFC lights and have a realistic view of football. As much as hurts to say because he is a jack he has been class.

That's why I said he isn't massively overrated
I think he is a cracking player.

Sorry, I need to learn to read things twice over.

Allen is one of few Swansea players who ain't massively overrated

I know you're a mod so I'll word this carefully but come on, he was arguably their second best player last year and he performed very well in a GB team that was just finding its feet. He's been exceptional of recent. Stop being blinkered by the CCFC lights and have a realistic view of football. As much as hurts to say because he is a jack he has been class.

That's why I said he isn't massively overrated
I think he is a cracking player.

Sorry, I need to learn to read things twice over.

it's fine.

I'm
Excited to see Ramsey and Allen for Wales especially if we can get a decent holding midfielder. Mayber Ledders could.

A very good player but I think £15 million is way too much but I supposed if you pay £20 million for Henderson Still think Ramsey is better but the injury really put him back but hopefully he will get back to his best next season. My only thing with Allen is whether he can cut it outside of that swansea squad just like the rest of their players

A very good player but I think £15 million is way too much but I supposed if you pay £20 million for Henderson Still think Ramsey is better but the injury really put him back but hopefully he will get back to his best next season. My only thing with Allen is whether he can cut it outside of that swansea squad just like the rest of their players

15m is certainly silly.