Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:44 am
Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:55 am
john52 wrote:Now Glasgow Rangers have gone how weak is scottish football ? For years it has been either Celtic or Rangers to win the league.So how weak does that now make the Scottish scene What ambitions do the players have now at Celtic? .0nce they get knocked out of Europe what passion or ambitions have they got left?IS IT much of an achievement now to win the Scottish Premier League?Where will be the excitement for the fans as they now know its odds on they will win the league?
Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:06 am
DITH80 wrote:john52 wrote:Now Glasgow Rangers have gone how weak is scottish football ? For years it has been either Celtic or Rangers to win the league.So how weak does that now make the Scottish scene What ambitions do the players have now at Celtic? .0nce they get knocked out of Europe what passion or ambitions have they got left?IS IT much of an achievement now to win the Scottish Premier League?Where will be the excitement for the fans as they now know its odds on they will win the league?
Their only real challenge will be the games in the Champions League and then probably the Europa League when they've been elliminated from the group stages of the Champions League!
Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:14 am
Overthemoon wrote:DITH80 wrote:john52 wrote:Now Glasgow Rangers have gone how weak is scottish football ? For years it has been either Celtic or Rangers to win the league.So how weak does that now make the Scottish scene What ambitions do the players have now at Celtic? .0nce they get knocked out of Europe what passion or ambitions have they got left?IS IT much of an achievement now to win the Scottish Premier League?Where will be the excitement for the fans as they now know its odds on they will win the league?
Their only real challenge will be the games in the Champions League and then probably the Europa League when they've been elliminated from the group stages of the Champions League!
I agree and it's going to be a lot harder for them to entice other players to the SPL for them as well, which is why I was quietly confident that we still had a good chance of getting Kim Bo Kyung to sign for us over them. With German Champions Dortmund supposedly interested as well though, I'm not so confident in him choosing us over them!
Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:15 am
DITH80 wrote:Overthemoon wrote:DITH80 wrote:john52 wrote:Now Glasgow Rangers have gone how weak is scottish football ? For years it has been either Celtic or Rangers to win the league.So how weak does that now make the Scottish scene What ambitions do the players have now at Celtic? .0nce they get knocked out of Europe what passion or ambitions have they got left?IS IT much of an achievement now to win the Scottish Premier League?Where will be the excitement for the fans as they now know its odds on they will win the league?
Their only real challenge will be the games in the Champions League and then probably the Europa League when they've been elliminated from the group stages of the Champions League!
I agree and it's going to be a lot harder for them to entice other players to the SPL for them as well, which is why I was quietly confident that we still had a good chance of getting Kim Bo Kyung to sign for us over them. With German Champions Dortmund supposedly interested as well though, I'm not so confident in him choosing us over them!
If the guy wants to gain experience of european football and be a regular first team player, he would be better off choosing us or Celtic. However as you correctly point out, the standard of the opposition in the SPL in the coming season will be pretty poor. The Championship would be the ideal place to familiarise himself with European football. Lets hope so anyway!
Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:25 pm
Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:05 pm
CP76 wrote:If Rangers are made to start agin in the bottom division, so at least 3 years out of the SPL, then the game will die up there. Will be as poor as the Welsh leagues. TV and sponsorship will pull the pin.
Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:20 pm
Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:11 pm
PtB wrote:CP76 wrote:If Rangers are made to start agin in the bottom division, so at least 3 years out of the SPL, then the game will die up there. Will be as poor as the Welsh leagues. TV and sponsorship will pull the pin.
Where else do new clubs start??? Scottish football has been dead for years because of Celtic and Rangers, it can't get any worse.
Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:19 pm
CP76 wrote:If Rangers are made to start agin in the bottom division, so at least 3 years out of the SPL, then the game will die up there. Will be as poor as the Welsh leagues. TV and sponsorship will pull the pin.
Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:40 pm
Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:01 am
jtc wrote:CP76 wrote:If Rangers are made to start agin in the bottom division, so at least 3 years out of the SPL, then the game will die up there. Will be as poor as the Welsh leagues. TV and sponsorship will pull the pin.
would rangers now they are out the s.p.l be able to do their own t.v deal?fans worldwide .personally i don,t think it,s the end of the world for rangers.start again.run it right and get some jock youth in or some out the n.i league.the div 3 teams will be rubbing their hands together.basically just give 3/4 of the ground over to the gers.if the new company have to honour the ols s/t.s don,t forget they sold loads for this year in advance.40k plus in div 3
Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:55 am
jtc wrote:CP76 wrote:If Rangers are made to start agin in the bottom division, so at least 3 years out of the SPL, then the game will die up there. Will be as poor as the Welsh leagues. TV and sponsorship will pull the pin.
would rangers now they are out the s.p.l be able to do their own t.v deal?fans worldwide .personally i don,t think it,s the end of the world for rangers.start again.run it right and get some jock youth in or some out the n.i league.the div 3 teams will be rubbing their hands together.basically just give 3/4 of the ground over to the gers.if the new company have to honour the ols s/t.s don,t forget they sold loads for this year in advance.40k plus in div 3
Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:33 am
AbsolutelyFearless wrote:jtc wrote:CP76 wrote:If Rangers are made to start agin in the bottom division, so at least 3 years out of the SPL, then the game will die up there. Will be as poor as the Welsh leagues. TV and sponsorship will pull the pin.
would rangers now they are out the s.p.l be able to do their own t.v deal?fans worldwide .personally i don,t think it,s the end of the world for rangers.start again.run it right and get some jock youth in or some out the n.i league.the div 3 teams will be rubbing their hands together.basically just give 3/4 of the ground over to the gers.if the new company have to honour the ols s/t.s don,t forget they sold loads for this year in advance.40k plus in div 3
What are the 40k gonna do? Stand outside the ground and peek over the fence at away games
Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:40 am
PtB wrote:jtc wrote:CP76 wrote:If Rangers are made to start agin in the bottom division, so at least 3 years out of the SPL, then the game will die up there. Will be as poor as the Welsh leagues. TV and sponsorship will pull the pin.
would rangers now they are out the s.p.l be able to do their own t.v deal?fans worldwide .personally i don,t think it,s the end of the world for rangers.start again.run it right and get some jock youth in or some out the n.i league.the div 3 teams will be rubbing their hands together.basically just give 3/4 of the ground over to the gers.if the new company have to honour the ols s/t.s don,t forget they sold loads for this year in advance.40k plus in div 3
It's been reported that Rangers have sold 250 season tickets. Nobody will buy a season ticket for a "club" that isn't even a member of a league at present. Most fans cancelled their ST's as part of their hounding Charles Green campaign. There are few division 2&3 grounds up here that hold over 4,000 so not the biggest of pay days but better than nothing.
Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:03 pm
Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:07 pm
jtc wrote:PtB wrote:jtc wrote:CP76 wrote:If Rangers are made to start agin in the bottom division, so at least 3 years out of the SPL, then the game will die up there. Will be as poor as the Welsh leagues. TV and sponsorship will pull the pin.
would rangers now they are out the s.p.l be able to do their own t.v deal?fans worldwide .personally i don,t think it,s the end of the world for rangers.start again.run it right and get some jock youth in or some out the n.i league.the div 3 teams will be rubbing their hands together.basically just give 3/4 of the ground over to the gers.if the new company have to honour the ols s/t.s don,t forget they sold loads for this year in advance.40k plus in div 3
It's been reported that Rangers have sold 250 season tickets. Nobody will buy a season ticket for a "club" that isn't even a member of a league at present. Most fans cancelled their ST's as part of their hounding Charles Green campaign. There are few division 2&3 grounds up here that hold over 4,000 so not the biggest of pay days but better than nothing.
once it,s settled what league they are going in they will sell tickets by the load though surely?do you think that rangers fans will FOLLOW FOLLOW in div 3?i would say they would but you may know more about it as you,re up that way.i,v been to watch hearts a few times.surprised they havn,t died courtesy of romonov.no wonder the jambo,s voted no for rangers to stay in the s.p.l.romonov can see champs league coin
Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:28 pm
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:A clever businessmen could make ALOT of money from the SPL now.
Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:02 pm
Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:03 pm
PtB wrote:jtc wrote:PtB wrote:jtc wrote:CP76 wrote:If Rangers are made to start agin in the bottom division, so at least 3 years out of the SPL, then the game will die up there. Will be as poor as the Welsh leagues. TV and sponsorship will pull the pin.
would rangers now they are out the s.p.l be able to do their own t.v deal?fans worldwide .personally i don,t think it,s the end of the world for rangers.start again.run it right and get some jock youth in or some out the n.i league.the div 3 teams will be rubbing their hands together.basically just give 3/4 of the ground over to the gers.if the new company have to honour the ols s/t.s don,t forget they sold loads for this year in advance.40k plus in div 3
It's been reported that Rangers have sold 250 season tickets. Nobody will buy a season ticket for a "club" that isn't even a member of a league at present. Most fans cancelled their ST's as part of their hounding Charles Green campaign. There are few division 2&3 grounds up here that hold over 4,000 so not the biggest of pay days but better than nothing.
once it,s settled what league they are going in they will sell tickets by the load though surely?do you think that rangers fans will FOLLOW FOLLOW in div 3?i would say they would but you may know more about it as you,re up that way.i,v been to watch hearts a few times.surprised they havn,t died courtesy of romonov.no wonder the jambo,s voted no for rangers to stay in the s.p.l.romonov can see champs league coin
I hope they do turn out in numbers, but it's not so long ago where they reguarly turned out 15,000 in the top flight when they were really Rangers so will be interesting to see what happens now.
I always though Hearts would be the next one to go up here. All the clubs are in the shit though - shows you how bad things can go when one man is basically guaranteeing the clubs debt(and coupled with all the dodgy financial goings ons at Ibrox!) and gets fed up. There must be a heap of English clubs in a similar boat - there certainly is up here.