Shafting local businesses!

We are about to do the same but for 20 times that amount to Sam Hammam and then have a go at them for doing it 11 years ago for 800k.

Give it a rest you tedious jack

Im responding to the thread topic. If you dont like the actual factual response then maybe you should re-direct you anger toward certain sections of our fans who constantly roll out the ''swans sshould pay their debts'' line when faced with the reality of their superiority then.

I agree, tedious in the extreme. Not to mention cringeworthy.

And I'm responding to you f**k OFF

More like it, thats the response of acceptance. The sooner everyone acceps they are better than us on and off the field the sooner we will stop making ridiculous comments and embrassing ourselves and actually try and emmulate their achievements ourselves. At the end of the day we ave sold our soul for the chance..

I don't mind having banter with jacks who openly support their club. But the likes of you who pretend to be Cardiff yet spend all your time spouting pro-jack love is pathetic. Grow some and show your true colours

We are about to do the same but for 20 times that amount to Sam Hammam and then have a go at them for doing it 11 years ago for 800k.

Give it a rest you tedious jack

Im responding to the thread topic. If you dont like the actual factual response then maybe you should re-direct you anger toward certain sections of our fans who constantly roll out the ''swans sshould pay their debts'' line when faced with the reality of their superiority then.

I agree, tedious in the extreme. Not to mention cringeworthy.

And I'm responding to you f**k OFF

More like it, thats the response of acceptance. The sooner everyone acceps they are better than us on and off the field the sooner we will stop making ridiculous comments and embrassing ourselves and actually try and emmulate their achievements ourselves. At the end of the day we ave sold our soul for the chance..

I don't mind having banter with jacks who openly support their club. But the likes of you who pretend to be Cardiff yet spend all your time spouting pro-jack love is pathetic. Grow some and show your true colours

Pathetic realy.

Why do the f*cking jacks come on here? They are evrywhere you look!! The amount of threads killed because of their petty arguing and snide comments! None of them debate they just spout the same shit, premier league blah blah pass like barca blah blah f**k off and stop being so obsessed with us you utter twats

As someone able to look passed the rivalry for the sake of accuracy... all our resident jacks are more than fair in their comments, they are merely stating facts. Its our fans that are making ridiculous comments and kill any debate by saying things such as ''your jealous because we have £5 million to spend on players but are £100 million in debt'' ''we won the FA Cup 85 years ago so we are better'' ''we are bigger because we play in the capital'' ''pay your debts from 11 years ago even though they are settled and we are trying to rip Sam Hammam off to the tune of £14 million'' ''we are the next footballing superpower'' ''we should play our games at the Mill Stad'' etc etc etc

You can f**k off aswell you tw*t get a life, we all know youre a jack and tbh its f*cking boring listening to your shite.

Im not a jack and if it boring you that much then stop replying.
Next.. Next? Who are you frank f*cking dux? This isnt the 100 man kumite mate f*cking next.

Last edited by BluebirdJM on Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.

We are about to do the same but for 20 times that amount to Sam Hammam and then have a go at them for doing it 11 years ago for 800k.

Give it a rest you tedious jack

Im responding to the thread topic. If you dont like the actual factual response then maybe you should re-direct you anger toward certain sections of our fans who constantly roll out the ''swans sshould pay their debts'' line when faced with the reality of their superiority then.

I agree, tedious in the extreme. Not to mention cringeworthy.

And I'm responding to you f**k OFF

More like it, thats the response of acceptance. The sooner everyone acceps they are better than us on and off the field the sooner we will stop making ridiculous comments and embrassing ourselves and actually try and emmulate their achievements ourselves. At the end of the day we ave sold our soul for the chance..

I don't mind having banter with jacks who openly support their club. But the likes of you who pretend to be Cardiff yet spend all your time spouting pro-jack love is pathetic. Grow some and show your true colours

A fact is not pro anything - its just the truth.

And im red through and through no question.

Last edited by RoathMagic on Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Why do the f*cking jacks come on here? They are evrywhere you look!! The amount of threads killed because of their petty arguing and snide comments! None of them debate they just spout the same shit, premier league blah blah pass like barca blah blah f**k off and stop being so obsessed with us you utter twats

As someone able to look passed the rivalry for the sake of accuracy... all our resident jacks are more than fair in their comments, they are merely stating facts. Its our fans that are making ridiculous comments and kill any debate by saying things such as ''your jealous because we have £5 million to spend on players but are £100 million in debt'' ''we won the FA Cup 85 years ago so we are better'' ''we are bigger because we play in the capital'' ''pay your debts from 11 years ago even though they are settled and we are trying to rip Sam Hammam off to the tune of £14 million'' ''we are the next footballing superpower'' ''we should play our games at the Mill Stad'' etc etc etc

You can f**k off aswell you tw*t get a life, we all know youre a jack and tbh its f*cking boring listening to your shite.

Im not a jack and if it boring you that much then stop replying.
Next? Who are you frank f*cking dux? This isnt the 100 man kumite mate f*cking next.
next..

Why do the f*cking jacks come on here? They are evrywhere you look!! The amount of threads killed because of their petty arguing and snide comments! None of them debate they just spout the same shit, premier league blah blah pass like barca blah blah f**k off and stop being so obsessed with us you utter twats

As someone able to look passed the rivalry for the sake of accuracy... all our resident jacks are more than fair in their comments, they are merely stating facts. Its our fans that are making ridiculous comments and kill any debate by saying things such as ''your jealous because we have £5 million to spend on players but are £100 million in debt'' ''we won the FA Cup 85 years ago so we are better'' ''we are bigger because we play in the capital'' ''pay your debts from 11 years ago even though they are settled and we are trying to rip Sam Hammam off to the tune of £14 million'' ''we are the next footballing superpower'' ''we should play our games at the Mill Stad'' etc etc etc

Ffs have you heard of banter? Lighten up. It must be hell in your house, picking holes in coronation street and eastenders as they don't represent real life

Why do the f*cking jacks come on here? They are evrywhere you look!! The amount of threads killed because of their petty arguing and snide comments! None of them debate they just spout the same shit, premier league blah blah pass like barca blah blah f**k off and stop being so obsessed with us you utter twats

As someone able to look passed the rivalry for the sake of accuracy... all our resident jacks are more than fair in their comments, they are merely stating facts. Its our fans that are making ridiculous comments and kill any debate by saying things such as ''your jealous because we have £5 million to spend on players but are £100 million in debt'' ''we won the FA Cup 85 years ago so we are better'' ''we are bigger because we play in the capital'' ''pay your debts from 11 years ago even though they are settled and we are trying to rip Sam Hammam off to the tune of £14 million'' ''we are the next footballing superpower'' ''we should play our games at the Mill Stad'' etc etc etc

Ffs have you heard of banter? Lighten up. It must be hell in your house, picking holes in coronation street and eastenders as they don't represent real life

Ok maybe im missing the point here. Our fans are allowed to ruin debate and resort to futile comments as its banter but when the jacks do they should ''f**k off, be banned and get a life''.

just reminding myself of the inaccuracies and double standards this board have before trying to counter balance them.

By the way, its not difficult to pick holes in a view to play in a 75,000 stadium with an average attendance over the last 10 years of 17,000. and most of the examples I gave were genuine opinions of people not banter.

next..

Why do the f*cking jacks come on here? They are evrywhere you look!! The amount of threads killed because of their petty arguing and snide comments! None of them debate they just spout the same shit, premier league blah blah pass like barca blah blah f**k off and stop being so obsessed with us you utter twats

As someone able to look passed the rivalry for the sake of accuracy... all our resident jacks are more than fair in their comments, they are merely stating facts. Its our fans that are making ridiculous comments and kill any debate by saying things such as ''your jealous because we have £5 million to spend on players but are £100 million in debt'' ''we won the FA Cup 85 years ago so we are better'' ''we are bigger because we play in the capital'' ''pay your debts from 11 years ago even though they are settled and we are trying to rip Sam Hammam off to the tune of £14 million'' ''we are the next footballing superpower'' ''we should play our games at the Mill Stad'' etc etc etc

Ffs have you heard of banter? Lighten up. It must be hell in your house, picking holes in coronation street and eastenders as they don't represent real life

Ok maybe im missing the point here. Our fans are allowed to ruin debate and resort to futile comments as its banter but when the jacks do they should ''f**k off, be banned and get a life''.

just reminding myself of the inaccuracies and double standards this board have before trying to counter balance them.

By the way, its not difficult to pick holes in a view to play in a 75,000 stadium with an average attendance over the last 10 years of 17,000. and most of the examples I gave were genuine opinions of people not banter.

next..

I didn't mention any stadium so what you on about. And you forget these jacks come on here purely as wum's, yet all you can do it get on your knees and workshop their bragging. Grow some. Next.

Last edited by Carpe Diem on Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Ok guys. Here is the breakdown of 'local businesses' that we 'shafted' due to our CVA 10 years ago!

1. Steve Penney solicitors. Steve Penney is now the clubs solicitor!

2. Lewis pies. The Lewis family are all ardent SCFC fans and hold Premier season tickets.


3. Mel Nurse. Ummm Mel Nurse was part of the original consortium that took the club on!

Errrrr and thats it folks! Nothing too see here.

And please. Dont mention the council taxpayers of Swansea after you were given millions of pounds of prime public land to build your stadium on!

You,ve shafted your local businesses twice!!!!

Ok guys. Here is the breakdown of 'local businesses' that we 'shafted' due to our CVA 10 years ago!

1. Steve Penney solicitors. Steve Penney is now the clubs solicitor!

2. Lewis pies. The Lewis family are all ardent SCFC fans and hold Premier season tickets.


3. Mel Nurse. Ummm Mel Nurse was part of the original consortium that took the club on!

Errrrr and thats it folks! Nothing too see here.

And please. Dont mention the council taxpayers of Swansea after you were given millions of pounds of prime public land to build your stadium on!

Given land worth millions. The same land we sold the council in the 80s for 50 grand.

Ok guys. Here is the breakdown of 'local businesses' that we 'shafted' due to our CVA 10 years ago!

1. Steve Penney solicitors. Steve Penney is now the clubs solicitor!

2. Lewis pies. The Lewis family are all ardent SCFC fans and hold Premier season tickets.


3. Mel Nurse. Ummm Mel Nurse was part of the original consortium that took the club on!

Errrrr and thats it folks! Nothing too see here.

And please. Dont mention the council taxpayers of Swansea after you were given millions of pounds of prime public land to build your stadium on!

So if they were all behind the club why did they need to go into admin? I think all may not be as it seems.........

We didn't go into admin then, you really are clueless.

What?

He said we didn't go into Admin, which is correct.

Yes you did.

A CVA is administration. Administration under a CVA means the company can control the administration instead of appointing an administrator. All the rules apply apply for admin regardless who is doing the business.

Any comment jackf or jackmagic or nj73?

Yes you did.

A CVA is administration. Administration under a CVA means the company can control the administration instead of appointing an administrator. All the rules apply apply for admin regardless who is doing the business.

Any comment jackf or jackmagic or nj73?

A CVA is not administration.

To be in administration, an administrator would be appointed to oversee the ownership of the club, arrange a CVA and find new owners to take the business forward as a going concern.

In our case the club arranged the CVA themselves without appointing an administrator and the owners stayed in place.

I hope this clarifies things. In case it doesn't, click the link

http://www.companyrescue.co.uk/company- ... ion-or-cva

CVA is not administration at all...]

An insolvent company can enter into a company voluntary arrangement (CVA). The CVA is a form of composition, similar to the personal IVA (individual voluntary arrangement), where an insolvency procedure allows a company with debt problems or insolvent to reach a voluntary agreement with its business creditors regarding repayment of all, or part of its corporate debts over an agreed period of time. A CVA can be applied for by; the agreement of all directors of the company, the legal administrators of the company, or the appointed company liquidator.

A company voluntary arrangement can only be implemented by an insolvency practitioner who will draft a proposal for the creditors. A meeting of creditors is held to see if the CVA is accepted. As long as 75% (by debt value) of the creditors who vote agree then the CVA is accepted. All the company creditors are then bound to the terms of the proposal whether or not they voted. Creditors are also unable to take further legal actions as long as the terms are adhered to, and existing legal action such as a winding-up order ceases.

During the CVA, payments are made in a single monthly amount paid to the insolvency practitioner. The fees charged by the insolvency practitioner will be deducted from these payments. The company is not required to fund any further costs.

Yes you did.

A CVA is administration. Administration under a CVA means the company can control the administration instead of appointing an administrator. All the rules apply apply for admin regardless who is doing the business.

Any comment jackf or jackmagic or nj73?

A CVA is not administration.

To be in administration, an administrator would be appointed to oversee the ownership of the club, arrange a CVA and find new owners to take the business forward as a going concern.

In our case the club arranged the CVA themselves without appointing an administrator and the owners stayed in place.

I hope this clarifies things. In case it doesn't, click the link

http://www.companyrescue.co.uk/company- ... ion-or-cva

No thanks, just wondered what the reaction would be. Principle pretty much the same if you ask me but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. Didn't see that final coming.

You only seem to care when you think a fellow Cardiff fan may be on to something and then suddenly dont care when its proves hes not.

You only seem to care when you think a fellow Cardiff fan may be on to something and then suddenly dont care when its proves hes not.

Doesn't prove anything. Semantics as the result is creditors get screwed over. Dress it up all you want

CVA is not administration at all...]

An insolvent company can enter into a company voluntary arrangement (CVA). The CVA is a form of composition, similar to the personal IVA (individual voluntary arrangement), where an insolvency procedure allows a company with debt problems or insolvent to reach a voluntary agreement with its business creditors regarding repayment of all, or part of its corporate debts over an agreed period of time. A CVA can be applied for by; the agreement of all directors of the company, the legal administrators of the company, or the appointed company liquidator.

A company voluntary arrangement can only be implemented by an insolvency practitioner who will draft a proposal for the creditors. A meeting of creditors is held to see if the CVA is accepted. As long as 75% (by debt value) of the creditors who vote agree then the CVA is accepted. All the company creditors are then bound to the terms of the proposal whether or not they voted. Creditors are also unable to take further legal actions as long as the terms are adhered to, and existing legal action such as a winding-up order ceases.

During the CVA, payments are made in a single monthly amount paid to the insolvency practitioner. The fees charged by the insolvency practitioner will be deducted from these payments. The company is not required to fund any further costs.

All your own words? Sad.

You only seem to care when you think a fellow Cardiff fan may be on to something and then suddenly dont care when its proves hes not.

Doesn't prove anything. Semantics as the result is creditors get screwed over. Dress it up all you want

Even though they accepted it and have now profited by that decision? riiight.

Yet happy enogh that Sam our creditor is going to get screwed for probably £15 million

couldnt make it up.

You only seem to care when you think a fellow Cardiff fan may be on to something and then suddenly dont care when its proves hes not.

Doesn't prove anything. Semantics as the result is creditors get screwed over. Dress it up all you want

A bit like Langston are you mean? only be 10 times as much.

You only seem to care when you think a fellow Cardiff fan may be on to something and then suddenly dont care when its proves hes not.

You really are a pathetic individual. Coming onto a CCFC site pretending to be a CCFC fan. Do this site a favour and f**k off under the stone from which you crawled. Maybe one day you will grow up and realise that life is not about trying to annoy other people-there are far more important things in life. My Mrs has just gone back into hospital and has been speaking to a lady on her ward who has just been given 3 months to live-think about this and grow up you tw*t.

You only seem to care when you think a fellow Cardiff fan may be on to something and then suddenly dont care when its proves hes not.

Doesn't prove anything. Semantics as the result is creditors get screwed over. Dress it up all you want

A bit like Langston are you mean? only be 10 times as much.

20 times.

800k X 20 = £16 million - which will be about the amount poor Sam will be shafted for.

You only seem to care when you think a fellow Cardiff fan may be on to something and then suddenly dont care when its proves hes not.

You really are a pathetic individual. Coming onto a CCFC site pretending to be a CCFC fan. Do this site a favour and f**k off under the stone from which you crawled. Maybe one day you will grow up and realise that life is not about trying to annoy other people-there are far more important things in life. My Mrs has just gone back into hospital and has been speaking to a lady on her ward who has just been given 3 months to live-think about this and grow up you tw*t.

Im not arguing the only person arguing here is you - life is too short. Think of the people dying in hospital and ignore anyone that annoys you.

I just state facts. whether you like them or not is not my concern.

next...

You only seem to care when you think a fellow Cardiff fan may be on to something and then suddenly dont care when its proves hes not.

Doesn't prove anything. Semantics as the result is creditors get screwed over. Dress it up all you want

Even though they accepted it and have now profited by that decision? riiight.

Yet happy enogh that Sam our creditor is going to get screwed for probably £15 million

couldnt make it up.

Already been down this road. Sam spent the money himself when he owned the club. Morally I don't think we owe him anything. Not the same is it?

You only seem to care when you think a fellow Cardiff fan may be on to something and then suddenly dont care when its proves hes not.

You really are a pathetic individual. Coming onto a CCFC site pretending to be a CCFC fan. Do this site a favour and f**k off under the stone from which you crawled. Maybe one day you will grow up and realise that life is not about trying to annoy other people-there are far more important things in life. My Mrs has just gone back into hospital and has been speaking to a lady on her ward who has just been given 3 months to live-think about this and grow up you tw*t.

Im not arguing the only person arguing here is you - life is too short. Think of the people dying in hospital and ignore anyone that annoys you.

I just state facts. whether you like them or not is not my concern.

next...

I'm not arguing-just stating a fact that you are a pathetic individual who needs to grow up. Just hope that the admin ban you as you contribute nothing positive to the site.

You only seem to care when you think a fellow Cardiff fan may be on to something and then suddenly dont care when its proves hes not.

Doesn't prove anything. Semantics as the result is creditors get screwed over. Dress it up all you want

A bit like Langston are you mean? only be 10 times as much.

20 times.

800k X 20 = £16 million - which will be about the amount poor Sam will be shafted for.

Finally showed your hand there jack. Nobody would ever refer to him as poor Sam! Let your guard down. Must admit I'm relieved in a way that you are a jack as if you had been a Cardiff fan then you truly would be dog shit on the sole of a shoe with zero respect from your fellow fans. Least now you can go to school tomorrow and say guess what I wrote on the Cardiff forum on the weekend. Time for a new name - may i suggest jack tragic?

Yes you did.

A CVA is administration. Administration under a CVA means the company can control the administration instead of appointing an administrator. All the rules apply apply for admin regardless who is doing the business.

Any comment jackf or jackmagic or nj73?

A CVA is not administration.

To be in administration, an administrator would be appointed to oversee the ownership of the club, arrange a CVA and find new owners to take the business forward as a going concern.

In our case the club arranged the CVA themselves without appointing an administrator and the owners stayed in place.

I hope this clarifies things. In case it doesn't, click the link

http://www.companyrescue.co.uk/company- ... ion-or-cva

And what does an administrator do? I'll tell you,its one of 3 things:

1. Sell the company, usually for about £1 but as an ongoing concern.
2. Liquidate the company, that is sell off its assets and defuncts the firm.
3. Goes into a CVA.

Clue here CVA is adminstration.

Appointing an adminstrator to put a company into a CVA is expensive. Allowing the company to go straight into a CVA is the cheap option.

Yes you did.

A CVA is administration. Administration under a CVA means the company can control the administration instead of appointing an administrator. All the rules apply apply for admin regardless who is doing the business.

Any comment jackf or jackmagic or nj73?

A CVA is not administration.

To be in administration, an administrator would be appointed to oversee the ownership of the club, arrange a CVA and find new owners to take the business forward as a going concern.

In our case the club arranged the CVA themselves without appointing an administrator and the owners stayed in place.

I hope this clarifies things. In case it doesn't, click the link

http://www.companyrescue.co.uk/company- ... ion-or-cva

And what does an administrator do? I'll tell you,its one of 3 things:

1. Sell the company, usually for about £1 but as an ongoing concern.
2. Liquidate the company, that is sell off its assets and defuncts the firm.
3. Goes into a CVA.

Clue here CVA is adminstration.

Appointing an adminstrator to put a company into a CVA is expensive. Allowing the company to go straight into a CVA is the cheap option.

It still isn't no matter how many times you type that it is.

Yes you did.

A CVA is administration. Administration under a CVA means the company can control the administration instead of appointing an administrator. All the rules apply apply for admin regardless who is doing the business.

Any comment jackf or jackmagic or nj73?

A CVA is not administration.

To be in administration, an administrator would be appointed to oversee the ownership of the club, arrange a CVA and find new owners to take the business forward as a going concern.

In our case the club arranged the CVA themselves without appointing an administrator and the owners stayed in place.

I hope this clarifies things. In case it doesn't, click the link

http://www.companyrescue.co.uk/company- ... ion-or-cva

And what does an administrator do? I'll tell you,its one of 3 things:

1. Sell the company, usually for about £1 but as an ongoing concern.
2. Liquidate the company, that is sell off its assets and defuncts the firm.
3. Goes into a CVA.

Clue here CVA is adminstration.

Appointing an adminstrator to put a company into a CVA is expensive. Allowing the company to go straight into a CVA is the cheap option.

It still isn't no matter how many times you type that it is.

But the result is the same, unless of course it ends in options 1 or 2. So you're being pretty pedantic

Clutching at straws NJ.

Anyway the 5% means you still shafted your local businesses.

Yes you did.

A CVA is administration. Administration under a CVA means the company can control the administration instead of appointing an administrator. All the rules apply apply for admin regardless who is doing the business.

Any comment jackf or jackmagic or nj73?

A CVA is not administration.

To be in administration, an administrator would be appointed to oversee the ownership of the club, arrange a CVA and find new owners to take the business forward as a going concern.

In our case the club arranged the CVA themselves without appointing an administrator and the owners stayed in place.

I hope this clarifies things. In case it doesn't, click the link

http://www.companyrescue.co.uk/company- ... ion-or-cva

And what does an administrator do? I'll tell you,its one of 3 things:

1. Sell the company, usually for about £1 but as an ongoing concern.
2. Liquidate the company, that is sell off its assets and defuncts the firm.
3. Goes into a CVA.

Clue here CVA is adminstration.

Appointing an adminstrator to put a company into a CVA is expensive. Allowing the company to go straight into a CVA is the cheap option.

It still isn't no matter how many times you type that it is.

But the result is the same, unless of course it ends in options 1 or 2. So you're being pretty pedantic

No, I'm being accurate.

This difference here is that under FL rules, we wouldn't have had a 10 point deduction.