Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:44 pm
Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:47 pm
BadaBing wrote:Rio Ferdinand asks the question
http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/man-utd/news/ferdinand-call-swansea-players-up-for-england_32663.html
Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:49 pm
Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:49 pm
Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:03 pm
Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:04 pm
Aramore wrote:Rio Ferdinand is a joke.
He's a has been and is bitter that Woy knows that he's not up to it anymore.
Because of that he's just out to undermine the credibility of the manager with stupid suggestions.
Anyway. Why would We care? We've already had an England call-up.
Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:35 pm
Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:35 pm
BadaBing wrote:Aramore wrote:Rio Ferdinand is a joke.
He's a has been and is bitter that Woy knows that he's not up to it anymore.
Because of that he's just out to undermine the credibility of the manager with stupid suggestions.
Anyway. Why would We care? We've already had an England call-up.
and how did one cap wonder boothroyd repay ccfc he fucked off for nothing
Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:40 pm
BadaBing wrote:Rio Ferdinand asks the question
http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/man-utd/news/ferdinand-call-swansea-players-up-for-england_32663.html
Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:45 pm
Carpe Diem wrote:BadaBing wrote:Rio Ferdinand asks the question
http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/man-utd/news/ferdinand-call-swansea-players-up-for-england_32663.html
Been said already but it's simply because they aren't good enough. Honestly who do you think you have that is?
Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:49 pm
NJ73 wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:BadaBing wrote:Rio Ferdinand asks the question
http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/man-utd/news/ferdinand-call-swansea-players-up-for-england_32663.html
Been said already but it's simply because they aren't good enough. Honestly who do you think you have that is?
Britton was far superior to Henderson last season.
Dyer did far more the Oxlaide-Chamberlain
Sinclair was much better than Downing
And Graham scored more than Defoe and Carroll.
And these players are familiar with a possession style of football that is needed to be successful at International level these days.
Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:51 pm
Bluebird working in swansea wrote:NJ73 wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:BadaBing wrote:Rio Ferdinand asks the question
http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/man-utd/news/ferdinand-call-swansea-players-up-for-england_32663.html
Been said already but it's simply because they aren't good enough. Honestly who do you think you have that is?
Britton was far superior to Henderson last season.
Dyer did far more the Oxlaide-Chamberlain
Sinclair was much better than Downing
And Graham scored more than Defoe and Carroll.
And these players are familiar with a possession style of football that is needed to be successful at International level these days.
Time for bed me thinks you must be as pissed as i am r u on the 5% stella too?
Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:53 pm
Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:55 pm
NJ73 wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:BadaBing wrote:Rio Ferdinand asks the question
http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/man-utd/news/ferdinand-call-swansea-players-up-for-england_32663.html
Been said already but it's simply because they aren't good enough. Honestly who do you think you have that is?
Britton was far superior to Henderson last season.
Dyer did far more the Oxlaide-Chamberlain
Sinclair was much better than Downing
And Graham scored more than Defoe and Carroll.
And these players are familiar with a possession style of football that is needed to be successful at International level these days.
Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:56 pm
cardiff yid wrote:Graham is a good player, Woy probably never considered him because bit of a gamble being a uncapped player. The others.........have another Stella fella
Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:57 pm
Carpe Diem wrote:NJ73 wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:BadaBing wrote:Rio Ferdinand asks the question
http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/man-utd/news/ferdinand-call-swansea-players-up-for-england_32663.html
Been said already but it's simply because they aren't good enough. Honestly who do you think you have that is?
Britton was far superior to Henderson last season.
Dyer did far more the Oxlaide-Chamberlain
Sinclair was much better than Downing
And Graham scored more than Defoe and Carroll.
And these players are familiar with a possession style of football that is needed to be successful at International level these days.
Doesn't make Britton anywhere near international quality and Henderson was taken more for experience and development. Likewise dyer v OxC plus I don't think many arsenal fans would swap with you.
I'm amazed that downing was picked but then Sinclair is nowhere near good enough either.
Defoe is a better natural finisher than graham but was only going as a squad player and he has experience. Carroll is the classic British number 9 so not really comparable. Scored a great header too fair play.
In summary, your lot would have brought nothing to the party cos they ain't good enough
Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:00 pm
NJ73 wrote:Bluebird working in swansea wrote:NJ73 wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:BadaBing wrote:Rio Ferdinand asks the question
http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/man-utd/news/ferdinand-call-swansea-players-up-for-england_32663.html
Been said already but it's simply because they aren't good enough. Honestly who do you think you have that is?
Britton was far superior to Henderson last season.
Dyer did far more the Oxlaide-Chamberlain
Sinclair was much better than Downing
And Graham scored more than Defoe and Carroll.
And these players are familiar with a possession style of football that is needed to be successful at International level these days.
Time for bed me thinks you must be as pissed as i am r u on the 5% stella too?
Really? Feel free to tear my post apart with your own opinion.
Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:00 pm
Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:01 pm
NJ73 wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:NJ73 wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:BadaBing wrote:Rio Ferdinand asks the question
http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/man-utd/news/ferdinand-call-swansea-players-up-for-england_32663.html
Been said already but it's simply because they aren't good enough. Honestly who do you think you have that is?
Britton was far superior to Henderson last season.
Dyer did far more the Oxlaide-Chamberlain
Sinclair was much better than Downing
And Graham scored more than Defoe and Carroll.
And these players are familiar with a possession style of football that is needed to be successful at International level these days.
Doesn't make Britton anywhere near international quality and Henderson was taken more for experience and development. Likewise dyer v OxC plus I don't think many arsenal fans would swap with you.
I'm amazed that downing was picked but then Sinclair is nowhere near good enough either.
Defoe is a better natural finisher than graham but was only going as a squad player and he has experience. Carroll is the classic British number 9 so not really comparable. Scored a great header too fair play.
In summary, your lot would have brought nothing to the party cos they ain't good enough
I disagree.
Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:03 pm
Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:05 pm
Carpe Diem wrote:NJ73 wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:NJ73 wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:BadaBing wrote:Rio Ferdinand asks the question
http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/man-utd/news/ferdinand-call-swansea-players-up-for-england_32663.html
Been said already but it's simply because they aren't good enough. Honestly who do you think you have that is?
Britton was far superior to Henderson last season.
Dyer did far more the Oxlaide-Chamberlain
Sinclair was much better than Downing
And Graham scored more than Defoe and Carroll.
And these players are familiar with a possession style of football that is needed to be successful at International level these days.
Doesn't make Britton anywhere near international quality and Henderson was taken more for experience and development. Likewise dyer v OxC plus I don't think many arsenal fans would swap with you.
I'm amazed that downing was picked but then Sinclair is nowhere near good enough either.
Defoe is a better natural finisher than graham but was only going as a squad player and he has experience. Carroll is the classic British number 9 so not really comparable. Scored a great header too fair play.
In summary, your lot would have brought nothing to the party cos they ain't good enough
I disagree.
Of course. In the minority though but then you're wearing the old rose tinted spectacles
Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:06 pm
Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:07 pm
CantonJack wrote:If anyone argues that Sinclaire or Dyer is better than Oxlade-Chamberlain they need their head checked. Yeas, they're both good players who could both feature at international level pretty soon, maybe in next season's friendlys, but they aren't better than the Ox.
I don't think you can argue that Britton is good enough either. They already had Gerrard, Parker, Milner who are primarily CM's. And they had Phil Jones and Downing who can also play there
Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:09 pm
Carpe Diem wrote:CantonJack wrote:If anyone argues that Sinclaire or Dyer is better than Oxlade-Chamberlain they need their head checked. Yeas, they're both good players who could both feature at international level pretty soon, maybe in next season's friendlys, but they aren't better than the Ox.
I don't think you can argue that Britton is good enough either. They already had Gerrard, Parker, Milner who are primarily CM's. And they had Phil Jones and Downing who can also play there
Sinclair or britton won't get anywhere near. Possibly dyer but then I doubt that too unless England pick an experimental side or have loads of injuries
Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:10 pm
Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:11 pm
NJ73 wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:NJ73 wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:NJ73 wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:
Been said already but it's simply because they aren't good enough. Honestly who do you think you have that is?
Britton was far superior to Henderson last season.
Dyer did far more the Oxlaide-Chamberlain
Sinclair was much better than Downing
And Graham scored more than Defoe and Carroll.
And these players are familiar with a possession style of football that is needed to be successful at International level these days.
Doesn't make Britton anywhere near international quality and Henderson was taken more for experience and development. Likewise dyer v OxC plus I don't think many arsenal fans would swap with you.
I'm amazed that downing was picked but then Sinclair is nowhere near good enough either.
Defoe is a better natural finisher than graham but was only going as a squad player and he has experience. Carroll is the classic British number 9 so not really comparable. Scored a great header too fair play.
In summary, your lot would have brought nothing to the party cos they ain't good enough
I disagree.
Of course. In the minority though but then you're wearing the old rose tinted spectacles
On the contrary, I think you're basing your opinion on the fact they play for little old Swansea rather than performances and form in comparison to the other players mentioned.
Neither opinion can be proven of course other than the fact that the other players mentioned had little or no impact on the tournament.
Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:12 pm
Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:13 pm
NJ73 wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:CantonJack wrote:If anyone argues that Sinclaire or Dyer is better than Oxlade-Chamberlain they need their head checked. Yeas, they're both good players who could both feature at international level pretty soon, maybe in next season's friendlys, but they aren't better than the Ox.
I don't think you can argue that Britton is good enough either. They already had Gerrard, Parker, Milner who are primarily CM's. And they had Phil Jones and Downing who can also play there
Sinclair or britton won't get anywhere near. Possibly dyer but then I doubt that too unless England pick an experimental side or have loads of injuries
And that's why England will always fail. Players picked on reputation and the clubs they play for.
Britton and Dyer should have walked into that squad on form.
Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:14 pm
Carpe Diem wrote:
Well Roy didn't agree with you nor capello and I can't remember anyone talking about how England were missing them. Apart from the bitter and twisted egotistical Rio of course. Seriously though Sinclair and Britton? Really?
Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:17 pm
NJ73 wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:
Well Roy didn't agree with you nor capello and I can't remember anyone talking about how England were missing them. Apart from the bitter and twisted egotistical Rio of course. Seriously though Sinclair and Britton? Really?
As I said, on form Britton and Dyer should have walked into that squad.
Britton completely ran games against the likes of Man City, Arsenal and Liverpool last season and Dyer was head and shoulders above any right winger in the country.