Are we Swansea's little sisters.....

As I was talking to a jack this morning and he said we are like their little sisters because we have been under them for two years

They have been our bitches for years Baz

RoathMagic - you are quite clearly a Jack. Everything you post is pro-Jack and anti-Cardiff.

If you are a Jack then I haven't got a problem with that. Be proud of your team. I just don't understand why don't admit that fact!

Your arguments are so one-sided as to betray your true alliegence.

It is true that Swansea are in the Premier League and we aren't - and that is currently on merit. We shall see whether the new season alters that arrangement.

As a consequence of being in the Premier League Swansea have access to much greater income than us for the moment. That is true. That income will have a positive income on their profitability obviously - and you draw comparison with our debt as a reflection of their alleged superior status.

However, the fact that Swansea have gone into administration twice in living memory should not be ignored. Could they have built the promotion winning teams if they were still saddled with that historic debt? Debatable. The fact that Cardiff have not gone down that route should not be held against that club. Acting dishonourably vis-a-vis local businesses is not a sign of superiority in my book.

Swansea have a better team than us at this moment in time. But for how long? They will leave like rats from a sinking ship as soon as they start to struggle, or as soon as Mr Rodgers is free to come a calling.

Swansea do have more exposure than us media wise at the moment - 3 minutes at the end of MOTD usually, on a par with the Wigans of this world. Cardiff have been in 2 big Cup Finals which were broadcast internationally. And Cardiff will always be the capital of Wales - which attracts media attention across the board. Swansea is famous for being near the Gower.

The rest of your arguments are just plain stupid.

They sell out their stadium whilst we don't? Ignoring the fact that we still have much higher crowds than them and that the Liberty is smaller. How does that make them bigger than us.

And how about the following?

Swansea don't own their stadium. The council do - the Jacks are just tenants just like the Ospreys. How can the council be expected to increase the size of the stadium in the current economic climate when schools, hospitals & local services budgets are being cut? Especially when the need for increased capacity is absolutely determined by the (precarious) position of Swansea maintaining their Premiership status for the next 10 or so years and beyond to justify spending that money - otherwise a white elephant beckons.

The Jacks do not have their own training facility or academy buildings. They train on a local rec. We don't. Who is the bigger club on that basis?

We own our stadium. If the investment comes in then the capacity will be increased to 35,000 - not far off twice the capacity of the Liberty. Even if we don't fill the ground now or in the future we will still be selling more tickets than Swansea.

Demographics favour Cardiff too - the whole of SE Wales as its natural fan base, the most heavily populated area of Wales. Swansea's fan base pales into insignificance in comparison.

They have a bigger profile manager than us? WTF? Laudrup was a fantastic footballer. His managerial career does not mirror his playing ability. The best managers are often unsuccessful (and therefore initially lower profile) players .... Ferguson, Wenger, Mourinho and even Brendan Rodgers come to mind. Presumably Cardiff would be a smaller club if they appointed one of those rather than a Shearer or Bobby Charlton? Moronic point.

Also our debt will be turned to equity according to VT's plans - so we will be virtually debt free. Whether that actually occurs is open to debate - in the same vein as the Jacks' ability to stay in the Premiership.

Our owners are billionaires. Theirs is a second hand car dealer.

So Mr JackMagic, if you do want to continue promoting the superiority of your club over Cardiff, please advance more reasoned & less biased arguments.

What a great post