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What would Fred Keenor think about playing in red at home?

Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:26 am

What would Fred Keenor have thought about playing in red at home?

Isn't it crazy that the same season we unveil the most welcome statue to our 1927 FA Cup winning captain, the present owners show the greatest disdain to our 104 year history by unilaterally forcing the Club to play in that horrible Sunday League kit of red and black and removing the iconic bluebird crest from over each player's heart for that tawdry rugby beer mat. 

Please discus.

StT.

Re: What would Fred Keenor think about playing in red at home?

Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:38 am

Steve the Tea TM (c) wrote:What would Fred Keenor have thought about playing in red at home?

Isn't it crazy that the same season we unveil the most welcome statue to our 1927 FA Cup winning captain, the present owners show the greatest disdain to our 104 year history by unilaterally forcing the Club to play in that horrible Sunday League kit of red and black and removing the iconic bluebird crest from over each player's heart for that tawdry rugby beer mat. 

Please discus.

StT.

Dont think Fred would like it, but if he was having 20k a week i'm pretty sure he would play in red

Re: What would Fred Keenor think about playing in red at home?

Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:47 am

Steve the Tea TM (c) wrote:What would Fred Keenor have thought about playing in red at home?

Isn't it crazy that the same season we unveil the most welcome statue to our 1927 FA Cup winning captain, the present owners show the greatest disdain to our 104 year history by unilaterally forcing the Club to play in that horrible Sunday League kit of red and black and removing the iconic bluebird crest from over each player's heart for that tawdry rugby beer mat. 

Please discus.

StT.

he's probably too pissed off waiting for his statue to give a shit :lol:

Re: What would Fred Keenor think about playing in red at home?

Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:02 am

From the pics Ive seen of Fred ..... City always play in grey :lol:

Re: What would Fred Keenor think about playing in red at home?

Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:25 am

Players wear whatever playing strip is put in front of them and I think that about answers your question.

I can't remember any great outcry when our club decided to play in black for the Cup Final against Portsmouth, didn't even force the toss of a coin with Portsmouth to decide colours. Why? Because they thought that playing strip was Lucky :o



Hmmmm Interesting. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: What would Fred Keenor think about playing in red at home?

Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:33 am

wouldnt care less, as long as they get paid do you think players really care about colour of a shirt

Re: What would Fred Keenor think about playing in red at home?

Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:24 am

waddle wrote:
Steve the Tea TM (c) wrote:What would Fred Keenor have thought about playing in red at home?

Isn't it crazy that the same season we unveil the most welcome statue to our 1927 FA Cup winning captain, the present owners show the greatest disdain to our 104 year history by unilaterally forcing the Club to play in that horrible Sunday League kit of red and black and removing the iconic bluebird crest from over each player's heart for that tawdry rugby beer mat. 

Please discus.

StT.

he's probably too pissed off waiting for his statue to give a shit :lol:


Well the statue will be going up soon, payed for by cardiff fans and will take pride of place at OUR stadium, you on the other hand would firstly have to ask your council for permission to erect a statue, as for ideas of who to place at the council stadium, how about a statue of one of her majestys tax inspectors bent over being shafted by your club??

Re: What would Fred Keenor think about playing in red at home?

Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:34 am

cityone wrote:
waddle wrote:
Steve the Tea TM (c) wrote:What would Fred Keenor have thought about playing in red at home?

Isn't it crazy that the same season we unveil the most welcome statue to our 1927 FA Cup winning captain, the present owners show the greatest disdain to our 104 year history by unilaterally forcing the Club to play in that horrible Sunday League kit of red and black and removing the iconic bluebird crest from over each player's heart for that tawdry rugby beer mat. 

Please discus.

StT.

he's probably too pissed off waiting for his statue to give a shit :lol:


Well the statue will be going up soon, payed for by cardiff fans and will take pride of place at OUR stadium, you on the other hand would firstly have to ask your council for permission to erect a statue, as for ideas of who to place at the council stadium, how about a statue of one of her majestys tax inspectors bent over being shafted by your club??

Oh dear me , there's been a statue of ivor allchurch and a bust of Robbie James outside the ground for many years now , we sorted that out asap , we cherish history and tradition see

Re: What would Fred Keenor think about playing in red at home?

Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:35 am

Steve the Tea TM (c) wrote:What would Fred Keenor have thought about playing in red at home?

Isn't it crazy that the same season we unveil the most welcome statue to our 1927 FA Cup winning captain, the present owners show the greatest disdain to our 104 year history by unilaterally forcing the Club to play in that horrible Sunday League kit of red and black and removing the iconic bluebird crest from over each player's heart for that tawdry rugby beer mat. 

Please discus.

StT.


When we played in the 1927 cup final the badge used was the city of cardiff coat of arms, not a bluebird in sight, the first time the bluebird was on our shirt was 1969!!!!

Re: What would Fred Keenor think about playing in red at home?

Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:40 am

waddle wrote:
cityone wrote:
waddle wrote:
Steve the Tea TM (c) wrote:What would Fred Keenor have thought about playing in red at home?

Isn't it crazy that the same season we unveil the most welcome statue to our 1927 FA Cup winning captain, the present owners show the greatest disdain to our 104 year history by unilaterally forcing the Club to play in that horrible Sunday League kit of red and black and removing the iconic bluebird crest from over each player's heart for that tawdry rugby beer mat. 

Please discus.

StT.

he's probably too pissed off waiting for his statue to give a shit :lol:


Well the statue will be going up soon, payed for by cardiff fans and will take pride of place at OUR stadium, you on the other hand would firstly have to ask your council for permission to erect a statue, as for ideas of who to place at the council stadium, how about a statue of one of her majestys tax inspectors bent over being shafted by your club??

Oh dear me , there's been a statue of ivor allchurch and a bust of Robbie James outside the ground for many years now , we sorted that out asap , we cherish history and tradition see


Obviously doesn,t include paying the tax man and local businesses who work for the club and go unpaid!!!

Re: What would Fred Keenor think about playing in red at home?

Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:50 am

cityone wrote:
waddle wrote:
cityone wrote:
waddle wrote:
Steve the Tea TM (c) wrote:What would Fred Keenor have thought about playing in red at home?

Isn't it crazy that the same season we unveil the most welcome statue to our 1927 FA Cup winning captain, the present owners show the greatest disdain to our 104 year history by unilaterally forcing the Clu
b to play in that horrible Sunday League kit of red and black and removing the iconic bluebird crest from over each player's heart for that tawdry rugby beer mat. 

Please discus.

StT.

he's probably too pissed off waiting for his statue to give a shit :lol:


Well the statue will be going up soon, payed for by cardiff fans and will take pride of place at OUR stadium, you on the other hand would firstly have to ask your council for permission to erect a statue, as for ideas of who to place at the council stadium, how about a statue of one of her majestys tax inspectors bent over being shafted by your club??

Oh dear me , there's been a statue of ivor allchurch and a bust of Robbie James outside the ground for many years now , we sorted that out asap , we cherish history and tradition see

:lol:
Obviously doesn,t include paying the tax man and local businesses who work for the club and go unpaid!!!

Oh ok proved you wrong so we'll move to the taxman ok , how many transfer embargo's have we had and have you payed Sam hammam what you owe him ? :lol:

Re: What would Fred Keenor think about playing in red at home?

Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:06 am

waddle wrote:
cityone wrote:
waddle wrote:
cityone wrote:
waddle wrote:
Steve the Tea TM (c) wrote:What would Fred Keenor have thought about playing in red at home?

Isn't it crazy that the same season we unveil the most welcome statue to our 1927 FA Cup winning captain, the present owners show the greatest disdain to our 104 year history by unilaterally forcing the Clu
b to play in that horrible Sunday League kit of red and black and removing the iconic bluebird crest from over each player's heart for that tawdry rugby beer mat. 

Please discus.

StT.

he's probably too pissed off waiting for his statue to give a shit :lol:


Well the statue will be going up soon, payed for by cardiff fans and will take pride of place at OUR stadium, you on the other hand would firstly have to ask your council for permission to erect a statue, as for ideas of who to place at the council stadium, how about a statue of one of her majestys tax inspectors bent over being shafted by your club??

Oh dear me , there's been a statue of ivor allchurch and a bust of Robbie James outside the ground for many years now , we sorted that out asap , we cherish history and tradition see

:lol:
Obviously doesn,t include paying the tax man and local businesses who work for the club and go unpaid!!!

Oh ok proved you wrong so we'll move to the taxman ok , how many transfer embargo's have we had and have you payed Sam hammam what you owe him ? :lol:


Are you seriously trying to put a transfer embargo in the same category as what your club done??? cheating the tax man and shafting your creditors is about as low as it gets, for some it comes quite natural, afterall you,ve done it twice havn,t you. Hammam will be paid, it,s a business tug of war at the moment (happens in all business negotiations) as i said, he will be paid, for a debt he run up himself.

Re: What would Fred Keenor think about playing in red at home?

Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:45 am

You had transfer embargo's because you failed to pay the taxman you fool, also you are not negotiating with hammam you're trying to shaft him , are you "negotiating" with that guy with the transfer money as well

Why are you twisting this from the statue post anyway , don't you think its a disgrace your club didn't stump up the cash

Re: What would Fred Keenor think about playing in red at home?

Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:50 am

Steve the Tea TM (c) wrote:What would Fred Keenor have thought about playing in red at home?

Isn't it crazy that the same season we unveil the most welcome statue to our 1927 FA Cup winning captain, the present owners show the greatest disdain to our 104 year history by unilaterally forcing the Club to play in that horrible Sunday League kit of red and black and removing the iconic bluebird crest from over each player's heart for that tawdry rugby beer mat. 

Please discus.

StT.


Totally Totally irelevant.

Fred as much as he is hero of Cardiff City, yes we are still Cardiff City aint we???. Football was in a totally different state than it was 90 years ago. Footballers then were earning very little if anything at all in between the 1st & 2nd world wars. Modern day football is a business, a state of power to some and to surveive in this era, owners/Shareholders are needing million and million of investment.

Why I keep reading daft messages like this is simple getting boring.

Re: What would Fred Keenor think about playing in red at home?

Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:20 am

On return to Ninian Fred would firstly be very alarmed to see that theres a housing estate there instead of a football ground, but guess thats how times change and its called progress :ayatollah:

Re: What would Fred Keenor think about playing in red at home?

Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:35 am

waddle wrote:You had transfer embargo's because you failed to pay the taxman you fool, also you are not negotiating with hammam you're trying to shaft him , are you "negotiating" with that guy with the transfer money as well

Why are you twisting this from the statue post anyway , don't you think its a disgrace your club didn't stump up the cash


But the difference being, we DID pay the tax man, unlike that filthy scum at your club who didn,t. How is Hammam getting shafted?? he run up the debt himself you "fool." The statue has reached about the £70,000 mark which is a great effort by the fans, something to be proud of, the shortfall of about £15,000 is being paid by Vincent Tan, ironic that that wessel of a chairman you have will find money for a statue but still can not pay any creditors back!!!

Re: What would Fred Keenor think about playing in red at home?

Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:07 am

Dont think fans or players would have cared in 1927. It was only back in 1908 the club became known as Cardiff City FC and started playing in blue. It wasnt as if they had a long history of playing in blue.

Re: What would Fred Keenor think about playing in red at home?

Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:23 am

Not sure if we had fan leaders who just realised they are not as "special" as they thought they were having temper tantrums in his day.

He is probably wondering why we are in the second tier, but glad we are not in the same position as Sheffield United & Bury

YRe: What would Fred Keenor think about playing in red at ho

Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:27 pm

cityone wrote:
waddle wrote:You had transfer embargo's pbecause you failed to pay the taxman you fool, also you are not negotiating with hammam you're trying to shaft him , are you "negotiating" with that guy with the transfer money as well

Why are you twisting this from the statue post anyway , don't you think its a disgrace your club didn't stump up the cash


But the difference being, we DID pay the tax man, unlike that filthy scum at your club who didn,t. How is Hammam getting shafted?? he run up the debt himself you "fool." The statue has reached about the £70,000 mark which is a great effort by the fans, something to be proud of, the shortfall of about £15,000 is being paid by Vincent Tan, ironic that that wessel of a chairman you have will find money for a statue but still can not pay any creditors back!!!

Everyone pays the taxman mate that's one you don't get out of !

Also at the moment Sam did exactly what the Malaysians are doing , running up debts in cardiffs name and you're welcoming them the same as you did him , and don't give that old bollocks about shares because they haven't kept one promise they made to you , but are still after 2 years lending you 1.2 mil plus 7% :lol:

Re: YRe: What would Fred Keenor think about playing in red at ho

Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:43 pm

waddle wrote:
cityone wrote:
waddle wrote:You had transfer embargo's pbecause you failed to pay the taxman you fool, also you are not negotiating with hammam you're trying to shaft him , are you "negotiating" with that guy with the transfer money as well

Why are you twisting this from the statue post anyway , don't you think its a disgrace your club didn't stump up the cash


But the difference being, we DID pay the tax man, unlike that filthy scum at your club who didn,t. How is Hammam getting shafted?? he run up the debt himself you "fool." The statue has reached about the £70,000 mark which is a great effort by the fans, something to be proud of, the shortfall of about £15,000 is being paid by Vincent Tan, ironic that that wessel of a chairman you have will find money for a statue but still can not pay any creditors back!!!

Everyone pays the taxman mate that's one you don't get out of !

Also at the moment Sam did exactly what the Malaysians are doing , running up debts in cardiffs name and you're welcoming them the same as you did him , and don't give that old bollocks about shares because they haven't kept one promise they made to you , but are still after 2 years lending you 1.2 mil plus 7% :lol:


Dont be so stupid, on the two occasions you shafted eveyone it included the tax man (HMCR) you only paid them a percentage of what they were owed, 5p in the pound and 10p in the pound. The debt will be converted to equity as soon as sam is payed off, but hey, let us worry about OUR club, you should concentrate on what,s happening to your club that plays down in the arse end of South Wales.....by the way, you,re no mate of mine, i don,t know you!!!!

Re: YRe: What would Fred Keenor think about playing in red at ho

Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:58 pm

cityone wrote:
waddle wrote:
cityone wrote:
waddle wrote:You had transfer embargo's pbecause you failed to pay the taxman you fool, also you are not negotiating with hammam you're trying to shaft him , are you "negotiating" with that guy with the transfer money as well

Why are you twisting this from the statue post anyway , don't you think its a disgrace your club didn't stump up the cash


But the difference being, we DID pay the tax man, unlike that filthy scum at your club who didn,t. How is Hammam getting shafted?? he run up the debt himself you "fool." The statue has reached about the £70,000 mark which is a great effort by the fans, something to be proud of, the shortfall of about £15,000 is being paid by Vincent Tan, ironic that that wessel of a chairman you have will find money for a statue but still can not pay any creditors back!!!

Everyone pays the taxman mate that's one you don't get out of !

Also at the moment Sam did exactly what the Malaysians are doing , running up debts in cardiffs name and you're welcoming them the same as you did him , and don't give that old bollocks about shares because they haven't kept one promise they made to you , but are still after 2 years lending you 1.2 mil plus 7% :lol:


Dont be so stupid, on the two occasions you shafted eveyone it included the tax man (HMCR) you only paid them a percentage of what they were owed, 5p in the pound and 10p in the pound. The debt will be converted to equity as soon as sam is payed off, but hey, let us worry about OUR club, you should concentrate on what,s happening to your club that plays down in the arse end of South Wales.....by the way, you,re no mate of mine, i don,t know you!!!!

Hrmc do not take 5p in the pound you clown , I've nothing to worry about at my club at the moment , and as for not being your mate it was just a term , what I wanted to say is you f***ing moron but I'm too polite

Re: What would Fred Keenor think about playing in red at home?

Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:01 pm

Hmrc rather :?

Re: What would Fred Keenor think about playing in red at home?

Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:08 pm

Would be very pissed off.

SPlb.