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Forever Blue wrote:Bluebirds fans form group to oppose change to red home kit
By Simon Gaskell, WalesOnlineJun 20 2012
keepcardiffblue@mail.com
Cardiff City fans opposed to radical changes to the club’s colours and badge have set up a campaign group to fight the change.
The group, called Keep Cardiff Blue, was founded at a private meeting at the Ninian Pub on Monday evening.
A group of 50 fans were invited to discuss their response to changes linked to a £100m rebranding sanctioned by the club following its proposal by Malaysian backer Malaysian Vincent Tan.
Out of the discussion Keep Cardiff Blue was formed and long-time supporters Mike Roderick, Clive Fussell, Scott Thomas and Mark Watkins were nominated to co-ordinate the group’s activities.
Mr Roderick, 55, who has supported the club since he was nine, said they hoped to promote a “menu” of activity to put pressure on the club’s owners to revert back to blue.
Mr Roderick said: “What we want to do is try to appeal to those people who have reluctantly accepted the red and explain to them there’s no earthly reason why we should do this.
“We should be suggesting various actions people can take to put pressure on the owners to come back to blue.
“What we want to do is put together a menu of action people can take – the entry level is if you go to games make sure you wear blue.
“We would also suggest people don’t buy anything from the club shop, don’t spend any money at the stadium on food and drink – those kind of actions that anybody can take.
“For the more serious among us, we would encourage them to ask for a refund on their season ticket, ask them not to renew their season ticket.
“All of these actions are suggested as ways we can put pressure on people to return to blue.”
By yesterday, the group already had a central email address keepcardiffblue@mail.com and a website is expected imminently.
Scott Thomas, of Keep Cardiff Blue, said the formation of the group was the first chance fans had to have their say since the rebranding was leaked six weeks ago.
He said: “It’s an umbrella organisation to channel what I would say is pretty strong opposition.
“I think, to a certain extent, the support has spent time being a little bit shell-shocked and let the club get on the front foot.
“Monday night was the first chance for various strands of support to talk about things.”
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Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:18 am
Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:18 am
caerdydd_78 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Bluebirds fans form group to oppose change to red home kit
By Simon Gaskell, WalesOnlineJun 20 2012
keepcardiffblue@mail.com
Cardiff City fans opposed to radical changes to the club’s colours and badge have set up a campaign group to fight the change.
The group, called Keep Cardiff Blue, was founded at a private meeting at the Ninian Pub on Monday evening.
A group of 50 fans were invited to discuss their response to changes linked to a £100m rebranding sanctioned by the club following its proposal by Malaysian backer Malaysian Vincent Tan.
Out of the discussion Keep Cardiff Blue was formed and long-time supporters Mike Roderick, Clive Fussell, Scott Thomas and Mark Watkins were nominated to co-ordinate the group’s activities.
Mr Roderick, 55, who has supported the club since he was nine, said they hoped to promote a “menu” of activity to put pressure on the club’s owners to revert back to blue.
Mr Roderick said: “What we want to do is try to appeal to those people who have reluctantly accepted the red and explain to them there’s no earthly reason why we should do this.
“We should be suggesting various actions people can take to put pressure on the owners to come back to blue.
“What we want to do is put together a menu of action people can take – the entry level is if you go to games make sure you wear blue.
“We would also suggest people don’t buy anything from the club shop, don’t spend any money at the stadium on food and drink – those kind of actions that anybody can take.
“For the more serious among us, we would encourage them to ask for a refund on their season ticket, ask them not to renew their season ticket.
“All of these actions are suggested as ways we can put pressure on people to return to blue.”
By yesterday, the group already had a central email address keepcardiffblue@mail.com and a website is expected imminently.
Scott Thomas, of Keep Cardiff Blue, said the formation of the group was the first chance fans had to have their say since the rebranding was leaked six weeks ago.
He said: “It’s an umbrella organisation to channel what I would say is pretty strong opposition.
“I think, to a certain extent, the support has spent time being a little bit shell-shocked and let the club get on the front foot.
“Monday night was the first chance for various strands of support to talk about things.”
Read More http://www.walesonline.co.uk/cardiffonl ... z1yJfUkggM
Annis, Im not here to change anyones minds or try and pursuade them to chnage, but I really think we need to move on and look forward.
Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:20 am
Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:26 am
wayne wrote:who will lead this group ? same old faces
Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:27 am
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Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:40 am
Deano1 wrote:I just don't get it.......The club have said that the change WILL happen this season. Even the most hard-nosed anti-red fan can surely see that the logistics of not going ahead with the change are impossible for this season now. Talks have been announced with fans regarding the implementation of future plans, the badge etc. Someone would surely mention that some fans are not happy with the change of colour during them talks. I don't see the need for another group. Especially one that is advocating withdrawing all financial input from fans.
If anyone's interested, I'm forming a group of fans who are reluctantly willing to give change a chance. We will be called 'Cardiff City Fans' and meet at all home games. There will be no committee and no agendas, just enjoy the great value your season tickets give you, wear your colours with pride, red or blue, and have a great day out supporting our team, Cardiff City, as we head for the Premier League.....you don't have to buy the beer though!
Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:41 am
Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:43 am
Deano1 wrote:I just don't get it.......The club have said that the change WILL happen this season. Even the most hard-nosed anti-red fan can surely see that the logistics of not going ahead with the change are impossible for this season now. Talks have been announced with fans regarding the implementation of future plans, the badge etc. Someone would surely mention that some fans are not happy with the change of colour during them talks. I don't see the need for another group. Especially one that is advocating withdrawing all financial input from fans.
If anyone's interested, I'm forming a group of fans who are reluctantly willing to give change a chance. We will be called 'Cardiff City Fans' and meet at all home games. There will be no committee and no agendas, just enjoy the great value your season tickets give you, wear your colours with pride, red or blue, and have a great day out supporting our team, Cardiff City, as we head for the Premier League.....you don't have to buy the beer though!
Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:46 am
Andy1927 wrote:Any chance you could make a sticky of the web address when the website goes live Annis so that everyone can get easy access to it.... should they so desire that is before anyone has a dig.... and if you don't like it then simple.... DON'T BLOODY READ IT, but please don't try and tell me what to do as if I want to oppose this abhorrent rebranding then I am more than entitled to do so....
Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:52 am
Deano1 wrote:Andy1927 wrote:Any chance you could make a sticky of the web address when the website goes live Annis so that everyone can get easy access to it.... should they so desire that is before anyone has a dig.... and if you don't like it then simple.... DON'T BLOODY READ IT, but please don't try and tell me what to do as if I want to oppose this abhorrent rebranding then I am more than entitled to do so....
Personally, I read many posts that i don't agree with. Then, quite often I give my opposing view. That's called debating. I never tell anyone what to do......
Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:55 am
Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:01 am
caerdydd_78 wrote:Why should we move on??
A good question would be, "why do we need to change to red?"
Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:01 am
caerdydd_78 wrote:Why should we move on??
A good question would be, "why do we need to change to red?"
Why do we need to change to red?? simple £100 million and survival of this football club.
Come on, Listen I am a director of a multi-million pound organisation, if someone came along and bought my shares for lets say, £100 million, I couldnt give a rats ass about what they did with it, call it what ever they like.
The problem is with fans is they dont understand the business side of why Tan is doing what he is doing. However, they do care about is the history and the nature of the football club.
Im not attempting to change or convert anyone, I think the club needs to do that by promoting the changes and going ahead with the changes they have advised us all of.
However its really time to move on, its been over 3 weeks sicne the club announced the chnages, but still fans are against it all.
Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:02 am
Andy1927 wrote:Deano1 wrote:Andy1927 wrote:Any chance you could make a sticky of the web address when the website goes live Annis so that everyone can get easy access to it.... should they so desire that is before anyone has a dig.... and if you don't like it then simple.... DON'T BLOODY READ IT, but please don't try and tell me what to do as if I want to oppose this abhorrent rebranding then I am more than entitled to do so....
Personally, I read many posts that i don't agree with. Then, quite often I give my opposing view. That's called debating. I never tell anyone what to do......
Then clearly my post wasn't aimed at you Deano, but you can't deny that there have been quite a few posters on here, on both sides of the arguments, who have been nothing short of offensive and threatening with their tone, trying to dictate to fellow supporters what they can or can't think and say.... They are the ones my post is aimed at....
Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:02 am
caerdydd_78 wrote:Why should we move on??
A good question would be, "why do we need to change to red?"
Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:07 am
CraigCCFC wrote:caerdydd_78 wrote:Why should we move on??
A good question would be, "why do we need to change to red?"Why do we need to change to red?? simple £100 million and survival of this football club.
Come on, Listen I am a director of a multi-million pound organisation, if someone came along and bought my shares for lets say, £100 million, I couldnt give a rats ass about what they did with it, call it what ever they like.
The problem is with fans is they dont understand the business side of why Tan is doing what he is doing. However, they do care about is the history and the nature of the football club.
Im not attempting to change or convert anyone, I think the club needs to do that by promoting the changes and going ahead with the changes they have advised us all of.
However its really time to move on, its been over 3 weeks sicne the club announced the chnages, but still fans are against it all.
What business side, its been changed on a whim........
As for the new training ground they mentioned - they are looking at staying at the vale now
The stadium expansion - suddenly thats a feasibility study, wont happen
We are a good championship club with good players and a great new stadium, someone would buy us if Tan walked.
If some are willing to give our 104 history up in 3 weeks then thats their cross to bare.
£100m you say, thats a nice figure they plucked out, they even added £2.2m contingency funs just to round it up.
Shiny pennies my friend, shiny pennies
Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:09 am
Keep cardiff blue
Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:11 am
caerdydd_78 wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:caerdydd_78 wrote:Why should we move on??
A good question would be, "why do we need to change to red?"Why do we need to change to red?? simple £100 million and survival of this football club.
Come on, Listen I am a director of a multi-million pound organisation, if someone came along and bought my shares for lets say, £100 million, I couldnt give a rats ass about what they did with it, call it what ever they like.
The problem is with fans is they dont understand the business side of why Tan is doing what he is doing. However, they do care about is the history and the nature of the football club.
Im not attempting to change or convert anyone, I think the club needs to do that by promoting the changes and going ahead with the changes they have advised us all of.
However its really time to move on, its been over 3 weeks sicne the club announced the chnages, but still fans are against it all.
What business side, its been changed on a whim........
As for the new training ground they mentioned - they are looking at staying at the vale now
The stadium expansion - suddenly thats a feasibility study, wont happen
We are a good championship club with good players and a great new stadium, someone would buy us if Tan walked.
If some are willing to give our 104 history up in 3 weeks then thats their cross to bare.
£100m you say, thats a nice figure they plucked out, they even added £2.2m contingency funs just to round it up.
Shiny pennies my friend, shiny pennies
We are a good championship club with good players and a great new stadium, someone would buy us if Tan walked.
I was interested til I read that, Craig this is not personal mate, but you need to Look at Rangers to answer that question. Who in there right mind would spend £70-£100 million on a championship club???? You could by Everton for about the same.
Thats why we have to see where this takes us, if he makes a huge mistake and the club bombs, then so be bit. As you say another billionaire will buy him out and this all starts again..... In the real world this wont happen and every anti-red knows this.
Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:13 am
Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:14 am
Deano1 wrote:I just don't get it.......The club have said that the change WILL happen this season. Even the most hard-nosed anti-red fan can surely see that the logistics of not going ahead with the change are impossible for this season now. Talks have been announced with fans regarding the implementation of future plans, the badge etc. Someone would surely mention that some fans are not happy with the change of colour during them talks. I don't see the need for another group. Especially one that is advocating withdrawing all financial input from fans.
If anyone's interested, I'm forming a group of fans who are reluctantly willing to give change a chance. We will be called 'Cardiff City Fans' and meet at all home games. There will be no committee and no agendas, just enjoy the great value your season tickets give you, wear your colours with pride, red or blue, and have a great day out supporting our team, Cardiff City, as we head for the Premier League.....you don't have to buy the beer though!
Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:19 am
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