" CARDIFF CITY TO HOLD MEETING "

i am Premier ST( level 4)PMG client ) i dont want to renew my 2 tkts
what do i do ??? just wait ?? or go to the meeting.i have not notified ccfc of my intention
any advice ?? thanks

You can't do anything m8 you have signed a contract, 5 years isn't it won't get out of that

but suspect they wont persue if dont pay not in there interest or financially worth it! but hey only one way to find out!

Has anyone got Allan Whitley email address ??

Has anyone got Allan Whitley email address ??

Yes its stuckinthemiddleofallthis@yahoo.co.uk

Thousands signed petitions online for the backing of the rebranding,Whilst only 50 want a refund monies paid towards season tickets.


I wonder out of the 50, how many of them actually post on here?

I've been FOR the idea from the start and have stuck to my guns, which is more than I can say for a few posters on here.

They're going to announce an Arg...

Something tells me that there's much more than this so-called 50 then if they want a meeting first

Allan Whitley our Chief Executive has today sent out a letter to all those City fans who have asked for their season ticket money back.
They will all be invited to attend a meeting held by Allan on Wednesday June 27th, Julian Jenkins and Wayne Nash, where they will answer their questions.
Emails have also been sent out by Mona the ticket office manager.
Then its up to the fans themselves what they intend to do after that.

Give them their money back, and good ridance is what I say

The club are useless, why pander to the temper tantrum boys, this will encourage another few hundred that just want to feel they are part of the discussion. If they didn't think asking the fans (not a select group) wasn't important before the rebrand announcement, why do it now with 50 sulkers.

Weak ineffective but sadly predictable local leadership.

Did anyone say VT the red shirt will piss a lot of fans off, the change of badge will push them further but that badge is fcuking shocking......

All a big load of bollocks what they gonna say ?

joke after joke is what it is.

ffs some people cant win, just shows how the keep blue at any cost brigade are as blind as pro red brigade

Sorry mate but I genuinely think its a joke just to talk to the 50 and leave the other thousands out who feel the same and are contemplating having a refund on there season tickets.

Its to little to late and it opens the flood gates all you have to do is cancel your season ticket and you get a full meeting with the club.

Its a joke because they couldnt organise a piss up in a brewery that is why I think its a joke and I think its a valid enough reason.

LMAO ... where do you get 'thousands' from? You're dreaming fella. The total number of 'agitators' looking to create a fuss is not even in the hundreds. Trawl through all the negative threads on this forum and it's the same fifty-odd names popping up bickering and complaining.
Not only that but the real motivation for the more astute amongst the 'agitators' is to create an impression of power and influence over a very small 'tribe' and they are stoking up the rebrand as the excuse to do that. The followers are biting as usual and don't see the bigger picture.
As a second little side plot to it, there is confusion in the ranks because sneeky Sam could be pulling the strings of the master puppeteers.
Now we have the Club trying to engage and they are being further criticised and mocked for that. Everyone bitches and complains and when they try to rectify / adjust / engage they get more of the same.
Absolute beauties you lot ... poor club can't do right for trying.

All a big load of bollocks what they gonna say ?

joke after joke is what it is.

ffs some people cant win, just shows how the keep blue at any cost brigade are as blind as pro red brigade

Sorry mate but I genuinely think its a joke just to talk to the 50 and leave the other thousands out who feel the same and are contemplating having a refund on there season tickets.

Its to little to late and it opens the flood gates all you have to do is cancel your season ticket and you get a full meeting with the club.

Its a joke because they couldnt organise a piss up in a brewery that is why I think its a joke and I think its a valid enough reason.

LMAO ... where do you get 'thousands' from? You're dreaming fella. The total number of 'agitators' looking to create a fuss is not even in the hundreds. Trawl through all the negative threads on this forum and it's the same fifty-odd names popping up bickering and complaining.
Not only that but the real motivation for the more astute amongst the 'agitators' is to create an impression of power and influence over a very small 'tribe' and they are stoking up the rebrand as the excuse to do that. The followers are biting as usual and don't see the bigger picture.
As a second little side plot to it, there is confusion in the ranks because sneeky Sam could be pulling the strings of the master puppeteers.
Now we have the Club trying to engage and they are being further criticised and mocked for that. Everyone bitches and complains and when they try to rectify / adjust / engage they get more of the same.
Absolute beauties you lot ... poor club can't do right for trying.

horace he means the 50 people who have sent there season ticket back as to why have they been invited but other 1000s of fans feel the same and have no say who bought season tickets, i guess you trolled through this thread and went off one post i feel your pain brother

All a big load of bollocks what they gonna say ?

joke after joke is what it is.

ffs some people cant win, just shows how the keep blue at any cost brigade are as blind as pro red brigade

Sorry mate but I genuinely think its a joke just to talk to the 50 and leave the other thousands out who feel the same and are contemplating having a refund on there season tickets.

Its to little to late and it opens the flood gates all you have to do is cancel your season ticket and you get a full meeting with the club.

Its a joke because they couldnt organise a piss up in a brewery that is why I think its a joke and I think its a valid enough reason.

LMAO ... where do you get 'thousands' from? You're dreaming fella. The total number of 'agitators' looking to create a fuss is not even in the hundreds. Trawl through all the negative threads on this forum and it's the same fifty-odd names popping up bickering and complaining.
Not only that but the real motivation for the more astute amongst the 'agitators' is to create an impression of power and influence over a very small 'tribe' and they are stoking up the rebrand as the excuse to do that. The followers are biting as usual and don't see the bigger picture.
As a second little side plot to it, there is confusion in the ranks because sneeky Sam could be pulling the strings of the master puppeteers.
Now we have the Club trying to engage and they are being further criticised and mocked for that. Everyone bitches and complains and when they try to rectify / adjust / engage they get more of the same.
Absolute beauties you lot ... poor club can't do right for trying.

horace he means the 50 people who have sent there season ticket back as to why have they been invited but other 1000s of fans feel the same and have no say who bought season tickets, i guess you trolled through this thread and went off one post i feel your pain brother

Bluebird1977 I understood exactly what he meant. My point is that there are not thousands of fans who feel the same. There are only a handful ... less than 100 on this forum and less than 60 on the other forum who are doing all the stoking. I appreciate that active posters like you would love to believe that there are thousands of dissenting voices but there is no proof of this ... as there is no proof of supporters of the red concept either. No-one can provide definitive poll results. For every negative post on this forum against the rebrand there is a positive post.
The reality is that the forums represent a 'vocal minority' whilst the 'silent majority' are pretty agnostic as to the rebrand. The newspapers have blown the response out of proportion and create a perception of mass revolt because it sells papers. they can't justify selling papers about an uncontroversial rebrand. The hype is further escalated by 'influential' fans that are using the opportunity presented by the rebrand strategy to 'enhance' their reputations and secure kudos by fueling the mayhem amongst a core of people that represent less than 1% of ST holders.
Interetsingly, not many of the 'knockers' are offering solutions. It's easy to criticise plans, strategies etc but some constructive critique would be good. Ultimately, the critics on this forum are having a go simply because they can and it satisfies their need ... whatever that need may be. If there were thousands of true committed dissenters then the rebrand would have got holted becasue the majority would be heard. There are not ... at best it would be a couple of hundred.

The club are useless, why pander to the temper tantrum boys, this will encourage another few hundred that just want to feel they are part of the discussion. If they didn't think asking the fans (not a select group) wasn't important before the rebrand announcement, why do it now with 50 sulkers.

Weak ineffective but sadly predictable local leadership.

Did anyone say VT the red shirt will piss a lot of fans off, the change of badge will push them further but that badge is fcuking shocking......

Nothing to do with temper tantrums or sulking,everything to do with red home shirts being my personal tipping point.

I'm sure that you also have a 'line in the sand' that can't be crossed whether that's the hypothetical return of Hammam as Life President,a red stadium,a change of club name or moving the club to another city.

We all have a 'line.' Now I respect your opinion but I'd like you to do likewise.

Thanks.

Interetsingly, not many of the 'knockers' are offering solutions. It's easy to criticise plans, strategies etc but some constructive critique would be good. Ultimately, the critics on this forum are having a go simply because they can and it satisfies their need ... whatever that need may be. If there were thousands of true committed dissenters then the rebrand would have got holted becasue the majority would be heard. There are not ... at best it would be a couple of hundred.

Not many 'knockers' are offering my solutions - my solution would be for the Malaysians to honour the traditions of the football club and reinstate the blue home kit. Every football and business expert that has written on the subject has said there is no good reason for favouring red over blue so there is no reason why the investment shouldn't go ahead with a blue kit unless the owners want to hold the club to ransom until they get their own way.

If you can offer a sensible reason, other than it is what VT wants, why the change should be made then I am sure a lot of people would be interested to hear it. If we do just have to accept that whatever VT does is for the best interests of the club where will it stop, red stadium, moving franchise to new location, installing a new nickname. If they are not interested in honouring the traditions of the club it may as well be a new club in all but name. At what point would you say it has gone to far? If VT thinks it is lucky for the team to play in mini skirts and boob tubes is that ok as long as there is investment to back it up?

The club are useless, why pander to the temper tantrum boys, this will encourage another few hundred that just want to feel they are part of the discussion. If they didn't think asking the fans (not a select group) wasn't important before the rebrand announcement, why do it now with 50 sulkers.

Weak ineffective but sadly predictable local leadership.

Did anyone say VT the red shirt will piss a lot of fans off, the change of badge will push them further but that badge is fcuking shocking......

Nothing to do with temper tantrums or sulking,everything to do with red home shirts being my personal tipping point.

I'm sure that you also have a 'line in the sand' that can't be crossed whether that's the hypothetical return of Hammam as Life President,a red stadium,a change of club name or moving the club to another city.

We all have a 'line.' Now I respect your opinion but I'd like you to do likewise.

Thanks.

Alfie,

Believe me, I understand your frustration, my annoyance is with the club. They must have calculated a percentage of returns when they did their risk analysis for the project, and I can't believe 0.23% would warrant a special meeting.

My fear is that I am one of the gullible 48% who are willing to go with this if we get rid of Sam, PMG and sports assets and we have a credible plan for growth and advancement. A knee jerk reaction to 50 fans returning their season tickets sends shock waves through me that we haven't a credible plan and we are making this up on the hoof. To be honest it scares me !

All a big load of bollocks what they gonna say ?

joke after joke is what it is.

ffs some people cant win, just shows how the keep blue at any cost brigade are as blind as pro red brigade

Sorry mate but I genuinely think its a joke just to talk to the 50 and leave the other thousands out who feel the same and are contemplating having a refund on there season tickets.

Its to little to late and it opens the flood gates all you have to do is cancel your season ticket and you get a full meeting with the club.

Its a joke because they couldnt organise a piss up in a brewery that is why I think its a joke and I think its a valid enough reason.

LMAO ... where do you get 'thousands' from? You're dreaming fella. The total number of 'agitators' looking to create a fuss is not even in the hundreds. Trawl through all the negative threads on this forum and it's the same fifty-odd names popping up bickering and complaining.
Not only that but the real motivation for the more astute amongst the 'agitators' is to create an impression of power and influence over a very small 'tribe' and they are stoking up the rebrand as the excuse to do that. The followers are biting as usual and don't see the bigger picture.
As a second little side plot to it, there is confusion in the ranks because sneeky Sam could be pulling the strings of the master puppeteers.
Now we have the Club trying to engage and they are being further criticised and mocked for that. Everyone bitches and complains and when they try to rectify / adjust / engage they get more of the same.
Absolute beauties you lot ... poor club can't do right for trying.

horace he means the 50 people who have sent there season ticket back as to why have they been invited but other 1000s of fans feel the same and have no say who bought season tickets, i guess you trolled through this thread and went off one post i feel your pain brother

Bluebird1977 I understood exactly what he meant. My point is that there are not thousands of fans who feel the same. There are only a handful ... less than 100 on this forum and less than 60 on the other forum who are doing all the stoking. I appreciate that active posters like you would love to believe that there are thousands of dissenting voices but there is no proof of this ... as there is no proof of supporters of the red concept either. No-one can provide definitive poll results. For every negative post on this forum against the rebrand there is a positive post.
The reality is that the forums represent a 'vocal minority' whilst the 'silent majority' are pretty agnostic as to the rebrand. The newspapers have blown the response out of proportion and create a perception of mass revolt because it sells papers. they can't justify selling papers about an uncontroversial rebrand. The hype is further escalated by 'influential' fans that are using the opportunity presented by the rebrand strategy to 'enhance' their reputations and secure kudos by fueling the mayhem amongst a core of people that represent less than 1% of ST holders.
Interetsingly, not many of the 'knockers' are offering solutions. It's easy to criticise plans, strategies etc but some constructive critique would be good. Ultimately, the critics on this forum are having a go simply because they can and it satisfies their need ... whatever that need may be. If there were thousands of true committed dissenters then the rebrand would have got holted becasue the majority would be heard. There are not ... at best it would be a couple of hundred.

The same numbers can be said for the pro numbers. Do you honestly think that the two forums contain the 20K who turn up week in and week out?


This meeting could be a good place for any protest if there was going to be one, so not just the ones returning season tickets turn up, but anyone who is not happy and can say they are or have thought about returning their tickets.


I'm not convinced by the Malaysians, I'm still wondering where they will get their money back from, they will have one concern and that will be profit for them, regardless of where it will leave us. They probably have a plan of where they can get money back, whether that's to do with Premiership football, casino's, general gambling or real estate.

If it goes pear shape they probably already have their exit strategy.

You can guarantee they have no strong affiliation with us and they do not 'give' money away.

Something tells me that there's much more than this so-called 50 then if they want a meeting first

It will be 51 if you cancel yours Adam, whoops, I forgot you haven't got on and never had one have you.

And as for something tells you, is that the power of second sense that let's you predict future events, like telling the voting public of Merthyr you had a good chance of becoming their MP