AS FANS WE NEED THE TRUTH???

Annis and Gwyn stop fuc**g our heads up, all we want is the truth what is going on

But if the truth gets posted on here it mysteriously disappears!

Annis and Gwyn stop fuc**g our heads up, all we want is the truth what is going on

Why would they no?

Annis and Gwyn stop fuc**g our heads up, all we want is the truth what is going on

With regard to what fella, I'll tell you the truth, ask away. pm me or phone for chat if need be/ no prob.

If you use masking tape and put an X in your window you'll soon find out.

deluded, vindictive and secretive fools

deluded, vindictive and secretive fools

Too many oligarchs at this club, viva la proletariat!

Sam Hammam told Gwyn Davies to convince everybody in the fan base to go " Red" - the reason being that Hammam thought he would get quicker settlement from the Malaysians if everything was Red and positive instead of being offered part payments to make up the sum, he thought he would get a lump payment. When Annis was not towing the party line Gwyn sent him text messages saying " stop ruining the plan"

Basically Gwyn Davies has been acting as the mouthpiece for Sam Hammam and frauding City Supporters on radio,tv ,newspapers that Red was the way to go. In fact he was saying it on behalf of Sam Hammam all along which was paramount to fraud comments to fellow supporters. I have just found this out from a " source" which is my first ever source

But it's correct and according to Annis, Gwyn has 6 posting names that he has been doing this under. I noted he did one earlier as he logged off, posted as someone else attacked Annis and then logged back on as himself. Gwyn showed his guilt to by removing posts quickly as the truth came out about the plan.

Annis and Gwyn stop fuc**g our heads up, all we want is the truth what is going on

With regard to what fella, I'll tell you the truth, ask away. pm me or phone for chat if need be/ no prob.

What was the texts about and what was the plan?

Sam Hammam told Gwyn Davies to convince everybody in the fan base to go " Red" - the reason being that Hammam thought he would get quicker settlement from the Malaysians if everything was Red and positive instead of being offered part payments to make up the sum, he thought he would get a lump payment. When Annis was not towing the party line Gwyn sent him text messages saying " stop ruining the plan"

Basically Gwyn Davies has been acting as the mouthpiece for Sam Hammam and frauding City Supporters on radio,tv ,newspapers that Red was the way to go. In fact he was saying it on behalf of Sam Hammam all along which was paramount to fraud comments to fellow supporters. I have just found this out from a " source" which is my first ever source

But it's correct and according to Annis, Gwyn has 6 posting names that he has been doing this under. I noted he did one earlier as he logged off, posted as someone else attacked Annis and then logged back on as himself. Gwyn showed his guilt to by removing posts quickly as the truth came out about the plan.

Gwyn is this true

deluded, vindictive and secretive fools

Too many oligarchs at this club, viva la proletariat!

MostIOC us are from working class back grounds can we have this translated please

Last edited by Tiger on Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Like a FECKING soap opera on here. I think the saying goes 'you've opened a can of worms'

Sam Hammam told Gwyn Davies to convince everybody in the fan base to go " Red" - the reason being that Hammam thought he would get quicker settlement from the Malaysians if everything was Red and positive instead of being offered part payments to make up the sum, he thought he would get a lump payment. When Annis was not towing the party line Gwyn sent him text messages saying " stop ruining the plan"

Basically Gwyn Davies has been acting as the mouthpiece for Sam Hammam and frauding City Supporters on radio,tv ,newspapers that Red was the way to go. In fact he was saying it on behalf of Sam Hammam all along which was paramount to fraud comments to fellow supporters. I have just found this out from a " source" which is my first ever source

But it's correct and according to Annis, Gwyn has 6 posting names that he has been doing this under. I noted he did one earlier as he logged off, posted as someone else attacked Annis and then logged back on as himself. Gwyn showed his guilt to by removing posts quickly as the truth came out about the plan.

Gwyn is this true

Yes Gwyn - can you confirm or deny you text Annis Abraham and said about him ruining the plan?

Sam Hammam told Gwyn Davies to convince everybody in the fan base to go " Red" - the reason being that Hammam thought he would get quicker settlement from the Malaysians if everything was Red and positive instead of being offered part payments to make up the sum, he thought he would get a lump payment. When Annis was not towing the party line Gwyn sent him text messages saying " stop ruining the plan"

Basically Gwyn Davies has been acting as the mouthpiece for Sam Hammam and frauding City Supporters on radio,tv ,newspapers that Red was the way to go. In fact he was saying it on behalf of Sam Hammam all along which was paramount to fraud comments to fellow supporters. I have just found this out from a " source" which is my first ever source

But it's correct and according to Annis, Gwyn has 6 posting names that he has been doing this under. I noted he did one earlier as he logged off, posted as someone else attacked Annis and then logged back on as himself. Gwyn showed his guilt to by removing posts quickly as the truth came out about the plan.

And your source as seen or still got these texts?, no I thought not, how convenient and was it from a source, or someone who'd been on the sauce.
By the ones my source told me he seen texts from you saying you want to have sex with a hole in a door, I suppose that's false as well is it, nudge nudge.

And as for logging off, to be honest when I'm on here or not my computer is left running and I am left logged on, isn't that what most of us do, why log off and the go thru the fuss of logging back on, seems a bit silly.

If I wanted to use an alias I could just open up a seprate window and log on in a false name, that#s why it's called WINDOWS, you don't need to log off.

Neither of them has got the foggiest what is going on.

Attention seekers the pair of them.

Sam Hammam told Gwyn Davies to convince everybody in the fan base to go " Red" - the reason being that Hammam thought he would get quicker settlement from the Malaysians if everything was Red and positive instead of being offered part payments to make up the sum, he thought he would get a lump payment. When Annis was not towing the party line Gwyn sent him text messages saying " stop ruining the plan"

Basically Gwyn Davies has been acting as the mouthpiece for Sam Hammam and frauding City Supporters on radio,tv ,newspapers that Red was the way to go. In fact he was saying it on behalf of Sam Hammam all along which was paramount to fraud comments to fellow supporters. I have just found this out from a " source" which is my first ever source

But it's correct and according to Annis, Gwyn has 6 posting names that he has been doing this under. I noted he did one earlier as he logged off, posted as someone else attacked Annis and then logged back on as himself. Gwyn showed his guilt to by removing posts quickly as the truth came out about the plan.

Gwyn is this true

Yes Gwyn - can you confirm or deny you text Annis Abraham and said about him ruining the plan?

You'd better ask Annis, he was the one who took the message thread off, ask him why and ask him to confirm the so called texts.

Andy, you can't go accusing people of doing something without backing it up...unless you can give 100% proof that this actually happened you owe him an apology.

The truth is we have all had to deal with a rebrand no fucker wanted red or blue as the triads dropped it on us and everyones reacted in diffrent ways, some with worry about are club saying it might go under without it, some with the i couldnt care less about the club going under approach because we have already lost are identity anyway as a club. Whatever has been said and done will it change the malaysians minds becasue they couldnt give too fucks about us eitherway NOPE.

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Andy, you can't go accusing people of doing something without backing it up...unless you can give 100% proof that this actually happened you owe him an apology.

Absolutely agree and this confirms the first law of message boards, personal shit stirring is always wrong.

Andy, you can't go accusing people of doing something without backing it up...unless you can give 100% proof that this actually happened you owe him an apology.

Marc I would suggest you call Annis yourself. I have had enough confirmation to know its true and make my posting statement.

Annis I would presume is not a blatant liar and will inform you of the truth.

deluded, vindictive and secretive fools

Too many oligarchs at this club, viva la proletariat!

MostIOC us are from working class back grounds can we have this translated please

I'm from a working class background

However, it roughly translates as "There are a very small minority who actually know what is going on (their reasoning, future plans, finances etc). They should also consider the majority of fans, and shouldn't leave us in the dark so to speak.

Andy, you can't go accusing people of doing something without backing it up...unless you can give 100% proof that this actually happened you owe him an apology.

Absolutely agree and this confirms the first law of message boards, personal shit stirring is always wrong.

Agree Tony. Gwyn Davies if you back track through his older posts will see is the biggest " shitstirrer" on here as you call it. This from a moderator with 6 Alias names. I think that gives you full summary.

Andy, you can't go accusing people of doing something without backing it up...unless you can give 100% proof that this actually happened you owe him an apology.

Absolutely agree and this confirms the first law of message boards, personal shit stirring is always wrong.

Annis did start a thread on it i seen it along with many others, andyinHD has said what was in there sort of but with more words Even my popcorn/3d glasses for sale thread went missing to

Last edited by Bluebird1977 on Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.

The truth is we have all had to deal with a rebrand no fucker wanted red or blue as the triads dropped it on us and everyones reacted in diffrent ways, some with worry about are club saying it might go under without it, some with the i couldnt care less about the club going under approach because we have already lost are identity anyway as a club. Whatever has been said and done will it change the malaysians minds becasue they couldnt give too fucks about us eitherway NOPE.

For once I totally agree with one of your posts Bluebird1977. We can debate red/blue all we want but the die is cast and we have to live with it now and just hope it brings success.

As for any 'plan' by Annis and Gwyn the same thing applies, Langston will get paid when VT decides to pay them and no message board or fans leaders will make a jot of difference to that.

deluded, vindictive and secretive fools

Too many oligarchs at this club, viva la proletariat!

MostIOC us are from working class back grounds can we have this translated please

I'm from a working class background

However, it roughly translates as "There are a very small minority who actually know what is going on (their reasoning, future plans, finances etc). They should also consider the majority of fans, and shouldn't leave us in the dark so to speak.

Now you translated it makes a lot of sense it's like the Illuminati

Does it matter??

So what if Gwyn was a mouthpiece for Sam, I make my own decisions and payed no attention to what either side, red or blue were waffling.

Its a shame because Annis and Gwyn are friends and just shows what has happened over the last few days. As for Daya's contribution, well i bet he's loving the attention his post has got him.

Andy, the only people who know the truth are Annis, Gwyn and Sam......no source would be accurate, unless it was one of them, thats hardly impartial either is it?

The truth is we have all had to deal with a rebrand no fucker wanted red or blue as the triads dropped it on us and everyones reacted in diffrent ways, some with worry about are club saying it might go under without it, some with the i couldnt care less about the club going under approach because we have already lost are identity anyway as a club. Whatever has been said and done will it change the malaysians minds becasue they couldnt give too fucks about us eitherway NOPE.

For once I totally agree with one of your posts Bluebird1977. We can debate red/blue all we want but the die is cast and we have to live with it now and just hope it brings success.

As for any 'plan' by Annis and Gwyn the same thing applies, Langston will get paid when VT decides to pay them and no message board or fans leaders will make a jot of difference to that.

Thats a 1st

Andy, you can't go accusing people of doing something without backing it up...unless you can give 100% proof that this actually happened you owe him an apology.

Absolutely agree and this confirms the first law of message boards, personal shit stirring is always wrong.

Annis did start a thread on it i seen it along with many others, andyinHD has said what was in there sort of but with more words Even my popcorn/3d glasses for sale thread went missing to

Best thread of all time! YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!

Bloody joke this is, whats most worrying is the influence Sam still has via these forums.

Would love to see VT ban individuals from CCS who have been involved in these agendas.

Sam Hammam told Gwyn Davies to convince everybody in the fan base to go " Red" - the reason being that Hammam thought he would get quicker settlement from the Malaysians if everything was Red and positive instead of being offered part payments to make up the sum, he thought he would get a lump payment. When Annis was not towing the party line Gwyn sent him text messages saying " stop ruining the plan"

Basically Gwyn Davies has been acting as the mouthpiece for Sam Hammam and frauding City Supporters on radio,tv ,newspapers that Red was the way to go. In fact he was saying it on behalf of Sam Hammam all along which was paramount to fraud comments to fellow supporters. I have just found this out from a " source" which is my first ever source

But it's correct and according to Annis, Gwyn has 6 posting names that he has been doing this under. I noted he did one earlier as he logged off, posted as someone else attacked Annis and then logged back on as himself. Gwyn showed his guilt to by removing posts quickly as the truth came out about the plan.

Gwyn is this true

Yes Gwyn - can you confirm or deny you text Annis Abraham and said about him ruining the plan?

You'd better ask Annis, he was the one who took the message thread off, ask him why and ask him to confirm the so called texts.

Annis ? over to you. Although Gwyn is that a denial to sending them?

Has Annis been threatened by you Gwyn? He's gone very quiet and why would he remove his own threads and posts? You made a reference to Annis in your post that he was taking the wrong person on, what did that mean exactly?