Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:51 pm
BigGwynram wrote:Tiger wrote:bluebird1972 wrote:Wasn't football supposed to be the great socially leveller where people from all walks of life gathered on a Saturday afternoon and stood shoulder to shoulder to support the team they love.
That's the best comment on here
Yes. but only if they come from the same racial background, in some people's eyes.
Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:53 pm
bluebird1972 wrote:BigGwynram wrote:Tiger wrote:bluebird1972 wrote:Wasn't football supposed to be the great socially leveller where people from all walks of life gathered on a Saturday afternoon and stood shoulder to shoulder to support the team they love.
That's the best comment on here
Yes. but only if they come from the same racial background, in some people's eyes.
Well that's me fucked English & Italian great grand parents what club will accept me a half breed at best
Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:53 pm
AndyinHD wrote:A simple question for you , are you really aware of what this rebrand will mean ?
You do realise you will be watching Cardiff City in name only . Because that's all will be left . Nothing else just the name .
The rest will be rebrand plastic football for commercial reasons - you do actually realise that ?
You do realise the Club will be followed bu multi Culture crowds - not groups of Welshman - you do realise the person in the stadium is likely to be English,Chinese,Malaysian etc - they won't want to sing men of Harlech or others - they will just sit down and clap.
You do realise you probably will not be able to afford a season ticket anymore and be out priced of the Club.
You do realise that the current 20'000 don't matter to the Business Plan of the future , all easily replaced.
You do realise the rebrand has nothing to do with community football at all and is the end of a welsh community football team .
Yes - it's may well have saved the Club - that's what the board want you to think - but to them they need you to think that to pick up 30 pieces of silver ! But by supporting the rebrand you are actually killing the Club you know and love . It's a total overhaul and an overhaul that brings with it a plastic sterile club followed by plastic fans following a plastic team albeit good on the pitch.
The real Cardiff City dies in this rebrand - I just hope everyone is prepared for that .
There is no choice anyway the board will make sure it goes ahead anyway for their own reasons - the fan doesn't really matter to them , never has . The Re brand is going ahead and the overhaul will take place quickly but all the time the real Cardiff City is dying away forever and the red supporters are apart of killing their own club.
Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:55 pm
BigGwynram wrote:bluebird1972 wrote:BigGwynram wrote:Tiger wrote:bluebird1972 wrote:Wasn't football supposed to be the great socially leveller where people from all walks of life gathered on a Saturday afternoon and stood shoulder to shoulder to support the team they love.
That's the best comment on here
Yes. but only if they come from the same racial background, in some people's eyes.
Well that's me fucked English & Italian great grand parents what club will accept me a half breed at best
And Annis Abraham, Egyptian heritage and a known England supporter, he'd be first to miss out on this blokes supporters credentails.
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Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:51 pm
AndyinHD wrote:A simple question for you , are you really aware of what this rebrand will mean ?
You do realise you will be watching Cardiff City in name only . Because that's all will be left . Nothing else just the name .
The rest will be rebrand plastic football for commercial reasons - you do actually realise that ?
You do realise the Club will be followed bu multi Culture crowds - not groups of Welshman - you do realise the person in the stadium is likely to be English,Chinese,Malaysian etc - they won't want to sing men of Harlech or others - they will just sit down and clap.
You do realise you probably will not be able to afford a season ticket anymore and be out priced of the Club.
You do realise that the current 20'000 don't matter to the Business Plan of the future , all easily replaced.
You do realise the rebrand has nothing to do with community football at all and is the end of a welsh community football team .
Yes - it's may well have saved the Club - that's what the board want you to think - but to them they need you to think that to pick up 30 pieces of silver ! But by supporting the rebrand you are actually killing the Club you know and love . It's a total overhaul and an overhaul that brings with it a plastic sterile club followed by plastic fans following a plastic team albeit good on the pitch.
The real Cardiff City dies in this rebrand - I just hope everyone is prepared for that .
There is no choice anyway the board will make sure it goes ahead anyway for their own reasons - the fan doesn't really matter to them , never has . The Re brand is going ahead and the overhaul will take place quickly but all the time the real Cardiff City is dying away forever and the red supporters are apart of killing their own club.
Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:04 pm
AndyinHD wrote:My plan you ask Gwyn ?
My plan is very simple obtain a refund on my season ticket and find something else to do on a Saturday afternoon. I'm not interested in watching the rebrand to what is not really Cardiff City that I have followed since a small child. I have to accept it's all been washed away, not anti Malaysian, they have to do what they feel they have to, but it's not for me as they hijack the history and culture of the Cardiff City I've always known. My blame for this goes elsewhere to why it's happened. The annoying point being those I lay blame to are benefactors to themselves out of all this.
Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:03 pm
AndyinHD wrote:A simple question for you , are you really aware of what this rebrand will mean ?
You do realise you will be watching Cardiff City in name only . Because that's all will be left . Nothing else just the name .
i will be watching the players, thats who i support
The rest will be rebrand plastic football for commercial reasons - you do actually realise that ?
You do realise the Club will be followed bu multi Culture crowds - not groups of Welshman - you do realise the person in the stadium is likely to be English,Chinese,Malaysian etc - they won't want to sing men of Harlech or others - they will just sit down and clap.
well im english and have watched cardiff for 25 years, and more people is more money, regardless of nationality
You do realise you probably will not be able to afford a season ticket anymore and be out priced of the Club.
i can assure you i will
You do realise that the current 20'000 don't matter to the Business Plan of the future , all easily replaced.
thats your opinion, im sure the malaysians would not think so
You do realise the rebrand has nothing to do with community football at all and is the end of a welsh community football team .
bigger and better things
Yes - it's may well have saved the Club - that's what the board want you to think - but to them they need you to think that to pick up 30 pieces of silver ! But by supporting the rebrand you are actually killing the Club you know and love . It's a total overhaul and an overhaul that brings with it a plastic sterile club followed by plastic fans following a plastic team albeit good on the pitch.
The real Cardiff City dies in this rebrand - I just hope everyone is prepared for that .
bit mellow dramatic that
There is no choice anyway the board will make sure it goes ahead anyway for their own reasons - the fan doesn't really matter to them , never has . The Re brand is going ahead and the overhaul will take place quickly but all the time the real Cardiff City is dying away forever and the red supporters are apart of killing their own club.
Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:20 pm
NIBluebird wrote:Man united are a global brand supporting by milions watched by only 86000 - yet they are successful .............a supporter has no ownership of club you support the 11 players on the pitch ...........
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