SAM HAMMAM AND RE-BRANDING

I have read several posts that Sam Hammam is behind the re-branding, this is absolute nonsense. Most know that I speak with Sam on a regular basis ( in fact he is my friend ) and I can state that Sam does not understand why the shirt and badge have to change for the investment to happen.

Some of the accusations made by fans against Sam regarding the whole re-branding and ongoing negotiations and his involvement with the plans are very wide of the mark.

going off the topic of re-branding, any news on any potential signings Carl? Hopefully Bellamy?

Sam hamman dos'nt understand the reason why investment shouldnt go ahead without re branding because there is NO REASON.

The reason is that the Malaysians want it.....and we want their money! Sounds like a good deal to me!

Never thought it had anything to do with Sam tbh, but what was Sam's reasoning for trying to change our shirt colour when he was at the helm and for changing our badge then?

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boo hoo. I doubt sam gives a f uck what people on a message board say about him.

I have read several posts that Sam Hammam is behind the re-branding, this is absolute nonsense. Most know that I speak with Sam on a regular basis ( in fact he is my friend ) and I can state that Sam does not understand why the shirt and badge have to change for the investment to happen.

Some of the accusations made by fans against Sam regarding the whole re-branding and ongoing negotiations and his involvement with the plans are very wide of the mark.

Carl, as you speak with Sam on a regular basis, do you know whether he has any intention in accepting this last offer from Tan?

As it looks like the major investment is hinging on Sam accepting this offer and moving on.

I have read several posts that Sam Hammam is behind the re-branding, this is absolute nonsense. Most know that I speak with Sam on a regular basis ( in fact he is my friend ) and I can state that Sam does not understand why the shirt and badge have to change for the investment to happen.

Some of the accusations made by fans against Sam regarding the whole re-branding and ongoing negotiations and his involvement with the plans are very wide of the mark.

Carl, as you speak with Sam on a regular basis, do you know whether he has any intention in accepting this last offer from Tan?

As it looks like the major investment is hinging on Sam accepting this offer and moving on.

NOW this would be great to know, he has been offered a life president role so let's get this done!

Who suggested that Sam Hammam was behind it?

Who suggested that Sam Hammam was behind it?

There was posts Adam that have now been deleted on CCMB but there are still some there to read which claim it.

I have read several posts that Sam Hammam is behind the re-branding, this is absolute nonsense. Most know that I speak with Sam on a regular basis ( in fact he is my friend ) and I can state that Sam does not understand why the shirt and badge have to change for the investment to happen.

Some of the accusations made by fans against Sam regarding the whole re-branding and ongoing negotiations and his involvement with the plans are very wide of the mark.

Carl, as you speak with Sam on a regular basis, do you know whether he has any intention in accepting this last offer from Tan?

As it looks like the major investment is hinging on Sam accepting this offer and moving on.

The investment package has nothing riding on a langston deal being struck, I'll leave Carl to answer regarding any possible offer to Sam....

So I hear Sam has been offered life presidency with this latest offer...wow!

I have read several posts that Sam Hammam is behind the re-branding, this is absolute nonsense. Most know that I speak with Sam on a regular basis ( in fact he is my friend ) and I can state that Sam does not understand why the shirt and badge have to change for the investment to happen.

Some of the accusations made by fans against Sam regarding the whole re-branding and ongoing negotiations and his involvement with the plans are very wide of the mark.

Carl, as you speak with Sam on a regular basis, do you know whether he has any intention in accepting this last offer from Tan?

As it looks like the major investment is hinging on Sam accepting this offer and moving on.

The investment package has nothing riding on a langston deal being struck, I'll leave Carl to answer regarding any possible offer to Sam....

Thanks for the reply Merlin, thats good to know that a debt to Langstone is not stepping in the way of the investment.

I expect a lot of this investment to be used up within the next couple of months, with club plans turning into reality and the club balance sheet looking healthier.

I have read several posts that Sam Hammam is behind the re-branding, this is absolute nonsense. Most know that I speak with Sam on a regular basis ( in fact he is my friend ) and I can state that Sam does not understand why the shirt and badge have to change for the investment to happen.

Some of the accusations made by fans against Sam regarding the whole re-branding and ongoing negotiations and his involvement with the plans are very wide of the mark.

Carl, as you speak with Sam on a regular basis, do you know whether he has any intention in accepting this last offer from Tan?

As it looks like the major investment is hinging on Sam accepting this offer and moving on.

Sam has always maintained he wants to settle the debt ASAP for the good of Cardiff City, I spoke with Sam as recent as Tuesday and he had not seen the 'full and final offer' that was offered by the club via email to the Langston Corporation. We text back and forth on Wednesday and we will have a conversation over the weekend.

I can't answer with a straight yes or no as I have not spoken to Sam in detail about the offer and I doubt I would be able to or want to answer on a public forum about Langstons intentions.

On a personal level I hope that the deal is concluded soon for the sake of the balance sheet.

For the record the investment package does not hinge on the Langston deal but if/when that particular deal is concluded then Vincent Tan will proceed with plans to turn his debt into equity.

I have read several posts that Sam Hammam is behind the re-branding, this is absolute nonsense. Most know that I speak with Sam on a regular basis ( in fact he is my friend ) and I can state that Sam does not understand why the shirt and badge have to change for the investment to happen.

Some of the accusations made by fans against Sam regarding the whole re-branding and ongoing negotiations and his involvement with the plans are very wide of the mark.

Come on Carl, he had similar plans, actually he wanted to relocate the club in full.

I have read several posts that Sam Hammam is behind the re-branding, this is absolute nonsense. Most know that I speak with Sam on a regular basis ( in fact he is my friend ) and I can state that Sam does not understand why the shirt and badge have to change for the investment to happen.

Some of the accusations made by fans against Sam regarding the whole re-branding and ongoing negotiations and his involvement with the plans are very wide of the mark.

Carl, as you speak with Sam on a regular basis, do you know whether he has any intention in accepting this last offer from Tan?

As it looks like the major investment is hinging on Sam accepting this offer and moving on.

Sam has always maintained he wants to settle the debt ASAP for the good of Cardiff City, I spoke with Sam as recent as Tuesday and he had not seen the 'full and final offer' that was offered by the club via email to the Langston Corporation. We text back and forth on Wednesday and we will have a conversation over the weekend.

I can't answer with a straight yes or no as I have not spoken to Sam in detail about the offer and I doubt I would be able to or want to answer on a public forum about Langstons intentions.

On a personal level I hope that the deal is concluded soon for the sale of the balance sheet.

For the record the investment package does not hinge on the Langston deal but if/when that particular deal is concluded then Vincent Tan will proceed with plans to turn his debt into equity.

Thanks for the reply Carl.

I understand that Langstone won't bring any business information into the public.

I just wanted to know Sams intentions concerning this long saga with the debt, and for him to want this sorted out ASAP, should be good news, as Sam will more likely accept an offer very sooner than later.

I have read several posts that Sam Hammam is behind the re-branding, this is absolute nonsense. Most know that I speak with Sam on a regular basis ( in fact he is my friend ) and I can state that Sam does not understand why the shirt and badge have to change for the investment to happen.

Some of the accusations made by fans against Sam regarding the whole re-branding and ongoing negotiations and his involvement with the plans are very wide of the mark.

Come on Carl, he had similar plans, actually he wanted to relocate the club in full.

Yes Sam wanted to change the shirt and he did change the badge but he consulted with fans on the changes.

I have read several posts that Sam Hammam is behind the re-branding, this is absolute nonsense. Most know that I speak with Sam on a regular basis ( in fact he is my friend ) and I can state that Sam does not understand why the shirt and badge have to change for the investment to happen.

Some of the accusations made by fans against Sam regarding the whole re-branding and ongoing negotiations and his involvement with the plans are very wide of the mark.

Come on Carl, he had similar plans, actually he wanted to relocate the club in full.

Yes Sam wanted to change the shirt and he did change the badge but he consulted with fans on the changes.

But the proposed changes by the Malaysians were leaked, I'm not having a go, but I simply cannot condone anyone who supports what Sam did during his time.

Personally he may be a top bloke, but he did nothing to help Cardiff other than use hedge funds to support his time here.

I have read several posts that Sam Hammam is behind the re-branding, this is absolute nonsense. Most know that I speak with Sam on a regular basis ( in fact he is my friend ) and I can state that Sam does not understand why the shirt and badge have to change for the investment to happen.

Some of the accusations made by fans against Sam regarding the whole re-branding and ongoing negotiations and his involvement with the plans are very wide of the mark.

Come on Carl, he had similar plans, actually he wanted to relocate the club in full.

Yes Sam wanted to change the shirt and he did change the badge but he consulted with fans on the changes.

But the proposed changes by the Malaysians were leaked, I'm not having a go, but I simply cannot condone anyone who supports what Sam did during his time.

Personally he may be a top bloke, but he did nothing to help Cardiff other than use hedge funds to support his time here.

Yes Sam was lethal with money and almost killed the club but would we be where we are today without him?

I have read several posts that Sam Hammam is behind the re-branding, this is absolute nonsense. Most know that I speak with Sam on a regular basis ( in fact he is my friend ) and I can state that Sam does not understand why the shirt and badge have to change for the investment to happen.

Some of the accusations made by fans against Sam regarding the whole re-branding and ongoing negotiations and his involvement with the plans are very wide of the mark.

Come on Carl, he had similar plans, actually he wanted to relocate the club in full.

Yes Sam wanted to change the shirt and he did change the badge but he consulted with fans on the changes.

Carl SH intention was to rename the club Cardiff Celts, change the playing strip to green, red and white and change the club badge. As for any consultation with fans that amounted to a very small group but I accept he listened and stopped except for changing the badge to that cross os St Davids bollocks.

After the pigs ear that SH made of the club finances I think he would be well advised to concentrate on getting the best deal he can for these loan notes and not question the motives of someone who has put in £40m of his own money. Afterall that must be what 10 times what SH put into the club and that without taking a penny out.

I'm the same as you pragmatic about all of this I'd prefer us to continue to play in Blue but if it means greater financial stability for the club, improved infrastructure and investment in the team I'm more than prepared to accept it. But Cardiff Celts I'd have loved to have been in the room when Annis was telling SH what he thought about that.

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Nothing concrete about turning debt into shares at all. Nothing set on investment and/or how much. Have to trust vt and the board on this, hmm... Remember the old saying fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice ect.. I hope your not having your tummies tickled AGAIN.

well said castleblue

Alan whiteley " If langston sign up to the terms vt will START TO LOOK AT RESTRUCTURING THE BALANCE SHEET" nothing concrete at all.

Football fwend!

I have read several posts that Sam Hammam is behind the re-branding, this is absolute nonsense. Most know that I speak with Sam on a regular basis ( in fact he is my friend ) and I can state that Sam does not understand why the shirt and badge have to change for the investment to happen.

Some of the accusations made by fans against Sam regarding the whole re-branding and ongoing negotiations and his involvement with the plans are very wide of the mark.

I havnt seen any acussing sam of being behind the re branding

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I have read several posts that Sam Hammam is behind the re-branding, this is absolute nonsense. Most know that I speak with Sam on a regular basis ( in fact he is my friend ) and I can state that Sam does not understand why the shirt and badge have to change for the investment to happen.

Some of the accusations made by fans against Sam regarding the whole re-branding and ongoing negotiations and his involvement with the plans are very wide of the mark.

I havnt seen any acussing sam of being behind the re branding

On the other board. A lot also bringing up the time sam wanted to change us to the celts, that was aborted (thank f**k) after pressure from the fans. Everyone come to their senses in the end. Cant see enough sense floating about this time though, unfortunately.

Yes Sam wanted to change the shirt and he did change the badge but he consulted with fans on the changes.

Consultation.... Surely not.... Businesses never consult with their customers do they.... oh... hang on a minute....

I really don't understand how Carl & Annis can defend Sam Hamman so much after what mess he left us in. He must have some sort of Hold on them. As for Sam, the Malaysians and whoever else consulting with fans, what they got to realise is that we have 16,000 ST HOLDERS(approx) and we all should be included NOT just the so-called Fans Representatives, who are they anyway? Carl?, Annis?, Vince?, Big Gwyn?, Corkery?, Barry Mac?I've never had a vote of who I want to represent us as fans.