Thu May 10, 2012 6:00 pm
Thu May 10, 2012 6:04 pm
castleblue wrote:Like Merlin I have stayed away from commenting on the whole issue because I didn't want to get carried away on a kneejerk reaction. However I would say when I heard about this I just couldn't believe it or more accurately I couldn't believe the reasons behind the proposed changes.
I have watched Cardiff for 47 years and started watching them with my dad who would always tell me we were going to watch "The City" as back in the 60's that's how most fans would describe the club. I'm not really sure when watching "The City" was replaced with watch "The Bluebirds" but even I say that now. But does it matter as really we all watch Cardiff City and that was the biggest concern I had ' was there a chance this would involve changing the name of the club'. That would be completely unacceptable to me but thanks to TG's letter we now know that was never going to happen.
I was also really concerned about the reason being given for the change in the colour of our home ket, again and thanks to TG we now know it has nothing to do with VT not liking Blue but everything to do with being able to market the club more succesfully in "Asia", not Malaysia but the continent of Asia, and for the club to benefit from the additional revenue.
I understand and fully respect that such a massive change is a lot to take on board, but where in the world are the similar marketing opportunities. Remember our major investors are very succesful businessmen and have probably forgotten more about marketing than the rest of us will ever know and more importantly understand the Asian marketplace. Is it really to much of an ask to have trusted them with this?
I told somebody today that if I owned Cardiff City and someone offered £m's of pounds to have "Swansea City Are The Best Football Team In The World" printed on our shirts I would bite their hands off. Having that bollocks on our shirts would in my opinion be nothing when compared to the value of the £m's so it should have been with a change to Red shirts. It would never change my love of our club as nothing could do that and the money it would bring with it is worth more to us as it would be to any Football League club.
As fans and in respect of everything that TG & VT have done for our club so far in my opinion we should have been prepared to listen to the reasons behind their proposals. Having listened to the reasons if we still felt that it was to big a change then fair enough but we didn't and in the immediate aftermath there is likely to be a period of uncertainty with loads of conjection about what happens know.
I just hope that in the future we are not looking back and saying maybe that was the best option for us.
Thu May 10, 2012 6:07 pm
Lt. Frank Drebin wrote:Yeah well done Nukes etc. Hope you also sleep well next season when CCFC is finacially fucked. Let's face it NOBODY wanted a home shirt and crest changed and I was fucked right off but I like some people were willing to look at the bigger picture with the investment etc and not act like idiots. Hope we are all happy with a blue top in the lower leagues with those gypos lording it over us instead of (probably) being in the prem in a red home top. Why do you think that tit cantonmagic was on here pushing for protests...they would have hated that sort of investment. It would have been glorious times that have never been seen at this club imo. Let's hope we get another chance with them as those last few paragraphs do not seem hopeful.
Thu May 10, 2012 6:09 pm
CF14-SE14 wrote:Die Walkure wrote:I feel sick.
Now you know how I felt.
So glad they've seen common sense, there are obviously other options that don't mean destroying our history.
Thu May 10, 2012 6:10 pm
Thu May 10, 2012 6:14 pm
castleblue wrote:Like Merlin I have stayed away from commenting on the whole issue because I didn't want to get carried away on a kneejerk reaction. However I would say when I heard about this I just couldn't believe it or more accurately I couldn't believe the reasons behind the proposed changes.
I have watched Cardiff for 47 years and started watching them with my dad who would always tell me we were going to watch "The City" as back in the 60's that's how most fans would describe the club. I'm not really sure when watching "The City" was replaced with watch "The Bluebirds" but even I say that now. But does it matter as really we all watch Cardiff City and that was the biggest concern I had ' was there a chance this would involve changing the name of the club'. That would be completely unacceptable to me but thanks to TG's letter we now know that was never going to happen.
I was also really concerned about the reason being given for the change in the colour of our home ket, again and thanks to TG we now know it has nothing to do with VT not liking Blue but everything to do with being able to market the club more succesfully in "Asia", not Malaysia but the continent of Asia, and for the club to benefit from the additional revenue.
I understand and fully respect that such a massive change is a lot to take on board, but where in the world are the similar marketing opportunities. Remember our major investors are very succesful businessmen and have probably forgotten more about marketing than the rest of us will ever know and more importantly understand the Asian marketplace. Is it really to much of an ask to have trusted them with this?
I told somebody today that if I owned Cardiff City and someone offered £m's of pounds to have "Swansea City Are The Best Football Team In The World" printed on our shirts I would bite their hands off. Having that bollocks on our shirts would in my opinion be nothing when compared to the value of the £m's so it should have been with a change to Red shirts. It would never change my love of our club as nothing could do that and the money it would bring with it is worth more to us as it would be to any Football League club.
As fans and in respect of everything that TG & VT have done for our club so far in my opinion we should have been prepared to listen to the reasons behind their proposals. Having listened to the reasons if we still felt that it was to big a change then fair enough but we didn't and in the immediate aftermath there is likely to be a period of uncertainty with loads of conjection about what happens know.
I just hope that in the future we are not looking back and saying maybe that was the best option for us.
Thu May 10, 2012 6:18 pm
.Bluebird99 wrote:Well done to the narrow-minded, blind fans. You will always hold this club back.
Thu May 10, 2012 6:23 pm
Thu May 10, 2012 6:52 pm
d20 wrote:there in it for the money...read tg,s statement ...we will look for other investors...ffs tans worth 800 million he could fund us on his own he doesnt need other investors so goes to show they dont give a shit about the club or fans...if they leave they will sell it or they lose loads,that wont happen...and so what if we do end up in the lower leagues again been there before ,to many fans are pretty new since sam days and relative success seeing a good team steady in the championship for years and success in the fa cup,carling cup and play off final ,most of these fans havent seen relegations etc and the shit football loads of us put up with ,from those years this is success some of you seem intent on getting to the prem league and couldnt give a shit what it cost to get us there even if it meant losing our badge,colours and traditions and have a guy pick and hcoose what changes he wants to make and when and not involve us....i was happy with the malaysians for funding us but this was all done in the wrong way and they now realise it.
Thu May 10, 2012 6:57 pm
Thu May 10, 2012 7:06 pm
Thu May 10, 2012 7:08 pm
Thu May 10, 2012 8:06 pm
Bluebird99 wrote:The simple fact is, we (very lossely) didn't even give them chance to explain. People on here organised rallies and marches etc. For Christ sake, you may just have blown the security for our football club!!! All for what? A colour and badge change?
I'm done with these message boards, they are the breeding ground for the self important! Idiots!
Thu May 10, 2012 8:08 pm
Lt. Frank Drebin wrote:Yeah well done Nukes etc. Hope you also sleep well next season when CCFC is finacially fucked. Let's face it NOBODY wanted a home shirt and crest changed and I was fucked right off but I like some people were willing to look at the bigger picture with the investment etc and not act like idiots. Hope we are all happy with a blue top in the lower leagues with those gypos lording it over us instead of (probably) being in the prem in a red home top. Why do you think that tit cantonmagic was on here pushing for protests...they would have hated that sort of investment. It would have been glorious times that have never been seen at this club imo. Let's hope we get another chance with them as those last few paragraphs do not seem hopeful.
Thu May 10, 2012 8:55 pm
Thu May 10, 2012 8:59 pm
CCFC_Lad wrote:I am shocked fans racially abused our OWNERS..if they saw these i feel they have the right to leave.
I'm ashamed to be associated with some of our Cardiff fans. I don't think they'd build a new training facility if they couldn't give a shit about the club or fans. That was for the good of the club.
I'm fuming that they've scrapped investment and rebranding.
Well Done City Fans. They could've held meetings to resolve how we'd have Red Shirts and keep our nickname but no they've been forced within days to scrap it.
Thu May 10, 2012 9:02 pm
Bluebird_87 wrote:Bluebird99 wrote:Well done to the narrow-minded, blind fans. You will always hold this club back.
How is being narrow minded fighting for what the club stands for and its tradition? Narrow mindedness is selling the club down the river and forgetting what generations of fans have always been.
Thu May 10, 2012 9:03 pm
Thu May 10, 2012 9:08 pm
ihatealiens wrote:Happy days back in the lower leagues ahead with the core fan base watching crap football
Thu May 10, 2012 9:10 pm
Die Walkure wrote:CF14-SE14 wrote:Die Walkure wrote:I feel sick.
Now you know how I felt.
So glad they've seen common sense, there are obviously other options that don't mean destroying our history.
I think you'll find very soon that you'll feel as sick as I do about these developments, when neither of us have a club to support.
Thu May 10, 2012 9:37 pm
Thu May 10, 2012 9:53 pm
Die Walkure wrote:castleblue wrote:Like Merlin I have stayed away from commenting on the whole issue because I didn't want to get carried away on a kneejerk reaction. However I would say when I heard about this I just couldn't believe it or more accurately I couldn't believe the reasons behind the proposed changes.
I have watched Cardiff for 47 years and started watching them with my dad who would always tell me we were going to watch "The City" as back in the 60's that's how most fans would describe the club. I'm not really sure when watching "The City" was replaced with watch "The Bluebirds" but even I say that now. But does it matter as really we all watch Cardiff City and that was the biggest concern I had ' was there a chance this would involve changing the name of the club'. That would be completely unacceptable to me but thanks to TG's letter we now know that was never going to happen.
I was also really concerned about the reason being given for the change in the colour of our home ket, again and thanks to TG we now know it has nothing to do with VT not liking Blue but everything to do with being able to market the club more succesfully in "Asia", not Malaysia but the continent of Asia, and for the club to benefit from the additional revenue.
I understand and fully respect that such a massive change is a lot to take on board, but where in the world are the similar marketing opportunities. Remember our major investors are very succesful businessmen and have probably forgotten more about marketing than the rest of us will ever know and more importantly understand the Asian marketplace. Is it really to much of an ask to have trusted them with this?
I told somebody today that if I owned Cardiff City and someone offered £m's of pounds to have "Swansea City Are The Best Football Team In The World" printed on our shirts I would bite their hands off. Having that bollocks on our shirts would in my opinion be nothing when compared to the value of the £m's so it should have been with a change to Red shirts. It would never change my love of our club as nothing could do that and the money it would bring with it is worth more to us as it would be to any Football League club.
As fans and in respect of everything that TG & VT have done for our club so far in my opinion we should have been prepared to listen to the reasons behind their proposals. Having listened to the reasons if we still felt that it was to big a change then fair enough but we didn't and in the immediate aftermath there is likely to be a period of uncertainty with loads of conjection about what happens know.
I just hope that in the future we are not looking back and saying maybe that was the best option for us.
Far too many of the more sensible people have been quiet over the last few days, and it has probably caused irreparable damage to our club.
Thu May 10, 2012 10:53 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:TG a Wolf in Sheep clothing. How is playing in Red going to bring us prosperity and good fortune ?
Come on tell me that Its good management bringing in the right players AKA Blackpool, Swansea ETC.
I can sleep easy knowing i wasn't prepared to sell my soul to the Devil and i don't care what you all think of me. I will never now trust them, but at least i get to keep my Club, and i dont regret revealing there future plans last night. I believe it to be 100% true then as i do today. And as a little warning from my source the last thing he said to me "Don't trust TG".
Sorry if i have helped destroy all your plastic aspirations i will always fight for our Club.
Nukes
Thu May 10, 2012 11:00 pm
CCFC_Lad wrote:Scrapped a significant amount i reckon! They wanted Red Shirts to increase sales in Malaysia where they'd get their money back.
Why would anyone pump nearly £2 million a month to not have their own plans to make money. Stupidity
Sat May 12, 2012 1:13 am