LIAM STACEY JAILED. FREEDOM OF SPEECH ?

Liam Stacey has been jailed for comments made about Fabrice Muamba. Although what he said was 'f**k Muamba he's dead #LOL. Now I have see many people say worse things online and not be jailed. Is Freedom of speech being affected here if someone can go to jail for saying something like this. For all you hypocrites about to jump on think first about what you may have said about Swansea players. Now if you want to see everything he said go to youtube and type in Liam Stacey.

I don't agree with the sentance at all, his failing factor here was he was tried by a district judge poor fucker, these are usually people who tried to make it to crown court but failed. I would have pleaded not guilty and hope my next trail was with magistrates not a district judge!

But it's bollux there was a copper who made remarks on a bomb victim http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-17510871 did he have to stand infront of a judge, John Terry called Anton Ferdinand a f8cking black c*nt, will he go to jail ofcourse he wont.

Suarez was convicted of being a racist, did he go before a judge ofcourse he didnt, Our legal system is bollux, like you said we hear worse abuse at a football game than what he posted on twitter.

It would help if you reported the full facts.

He was jailed due to the replies he posted when people replied to his 'Tweet' about the player. 'Wog c**t' being his favorite reply.

What does the Essex thing have in common with this case? The John Terry case has not gone before the court yet.

And if he was not reported to the police by the public then the police would not of picked him up the following morning.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean you have freedom to say what you want.

He should have fiddled with some kids at least then its a 50/50n chance of him now being free to walk the streets.

Our justice system is a f*cking joke.

Dont get me wrong, this Stacey fella is a vile little c**t, and I couldnt give two fucks about him personally, but the fact remains there are far, far worse acts in society which are not punished by a 2 week jail term.

As someone said on another thread 4 drunken muslim girls kicked f**k out of a girl last year and they got let off because "Muslims are not used to drinking". if that had been the other way around and 4 drunken white yobs had stamped all over a black / Asian kid they wouldnt have got away with that excuse.

He should have fiddled with some kids at least then its a 50/50n chance of him now being free to walk the streets.

Our justice system is a f*cking joke.

Dont get me wrong, this Stacey fella is a vile little c**t, and I couldnt give two fucks about him personally, but the fact remains there are far, far worse acts in society which are not punished by a 2 week jail term.

As someone said on another thread 4 drunken muslim girls kicked f**k out of a girl last year and they got let off because "Muslims are not used to drinking". if that had been the other way around and 4 drunken white yobs had stamped all over a black / Asian kid they wouldnt have got away with that excuse.

Spot on

That's a problem when you have a case that is decided on the day.

If you have a good legal team then you will get off.

In France, for example, that is not the case. A judge will read reports and make their mind up based on that.

Just to clear, that c**t went to jail due to the way he replied to people on Twitter - He did not go to jail for what he said to the player.

That's a problem when you have a case that is decided on the day.

If you have a good legal team then you will get off.

In France, for example, that is not the case. A judge will read reports and make their mind up based on that.

Just to clear, that c**t went to jail due to the way he replied to people on Twitter - He did not go to jail for what he said to the player.

He went to jail for both. The judge even made reference to the Muamba situation when he passed sentance.

they were totally inappropriate posts

Should have sent him to live in Lewisham with a sandwich board on him, ala Die Hard 3

That's a problem when you have a case that is decided on the day.

If you have a good legal team then you will get off.

In France, for example, that is not the case. A judge will read reports and make their mind up based on that.

Just to clear, that c**t went to jail due to the way he replied to people on Twitter - He did not go to jail for what he said to the player.

I will agree with this about the legal team, I have been in trouble in the past and got away with many things I'm not proud of things I did and I'm not trying to gloat about it but the simple fact is my solicitor ripped them to bits. I was up for a charge for fighting in town everyones done it at one but, The person sentencing me was a district judge, my solicitors advice was if I had pleaded guilty then I would be no doubt facing a custodial sentance, on that advice I pleaded not guilty waited until my next date pleaded guilty under a magistrate and got off with a fine and community service (which I can tell you is a fking joke as well, turn up at half 9 have breakfast by half 12 there dropping you off). Like I said being on the receiving end of our justice system it's a f*cking JOKE.

i could walk up my local shop now, give someone a good few slaps and break his nose.
i guarantee cos its my first offence (in the last 15 yrs anyway) id be off with a fine and bit of community service.

how the fook can that be less serious and not deserve a sentence, than what that tw*t of a student said. ive said in my other post that i in no way condone what hes done .

justice system ,my arse.

Should of been jailed. Freedom of speech is the right to be wrong, not the right to DO wrong

Should of been jailed. Freedom of speech is the right to be wrong, not the right to DO wrong

the boy deserves it, muamba is a well regarded respectful, much liked non racist player .
if someone said they hope your son dies, WOG cun't what would you want ?

on the plus side its one less jack on the streets,

Should of been jailed. Freedom of speech is the right to be wrong, not the right to DO wrong

the boy deserves it, muamba is a well regarded respectful, much liked non racist player .
if someone said they hope your son dies, WOG cun't what would you want ?

on the plus side its one less jack on the streets,

the boys from pontypridd, just studying in swansea uni.

Should of been jailed. Freedom of speech is the right to be wrong, not the right to DO wrong

the boy deserves it, muamba is a well regarded respectful, much liked non racist player .
if someone said they hope your son dies, WOG cun't what would you want ?

on the plus side its one less jack on the streets,

the boys from pontypridd, just studying in swansea uni.

That may be right, but why did he post a picture of himself with his arm around Nathan Dyer ?

Liam Stacey has been jailed for comments made about Fabrice Muamba. Although what he said was 'f**k Muamba he's dead #LOL. Now I have see many people say worse things online and not be jailed. Is Freedom of speech being affected here if someone can go to jail for saying something like this. For all you hypocrites about to jump on think first about what you may have said about Swansea players. Now if you want to see everything he said go to youtube and type in Liam Stacey.

You do realise he wasn't jailed for that comment, right?

Helps if people know the facts.

Unless you think no jail term should be an option for comments like "Suck Muamba's black cock and get AIDS" or "f**k off n***er, go and pick some cotton"?

Plus comments he previously made about Abidal et al.

Should of been jailed. Freedom of speech is the right to be wrong, not the right to DO wrong

the boy deserves it, muamba is a well regarded respectful, much liked non racist player .
if someone said they hope your son dies, WOG cun't what would you want ?

on the plus side its one less jack on the streets,

the boys from pontypridd, just studying in swansea uni.

That may be right, but why did he post a picture of himself with his arm around Nathan Dyer ?

then maybe he's a swans fan.

he's not...

he's not...

its irrelevent to me who he supports TBH.

Should of been jailed. Freedom of speech is the right to be wrong, not the right to DO wrong

the boy deserves it, muamba is a well regarded respectful, much liked non racist player .
if someone said they hope your son dies, WOG cun't what would you want ?

on the plus side its one less jack on the streets,

the boys from pontypridd, just studying in swansea uni.

That may be right, but why did he post a picture of himself with his arm around Nathan Dyer ?

then maybe he's a swans fan.

I bet Stacey was minus his wallet after

peoples loss of freedoms are always the first defence of a criminal especially in cases like these. 'I have freedom of speech and I have a right to say how I feel'. Yes id agree and I dont think anybody would really disagree with you but when what you say is not a thought process or based on fact or with any evidence to support it and is just a blatant attack on somebody, it does not categorise under freedom of speech, its assault not a physical one but assault itself.
Freedom of speech does not give you the right to burst out and say what you want when you want in fact it will defend you when a larger majority disagrees with what you say and punishes you for it.
An interesting case in Germany is building with Socialist and Nazi sympathisers are arguing that their political rights and freedom of speech are being cut over laws in Germany based on the holocaust and post war Germany and how state beliefs interfere with certain political beliefs will be interesting how that one works out.
With regards to Liam Stacey he is not a victim of someones freedom of speech being taken away from them more he is an aggressor targeting a man who is a different skin colour who thought he could get away with it because he was on the internet.

peoples loss of freedoms are always the first defence of a criminal especially in cases like these. 'I have freedom of speech and I have a right to say how I feel'. Yes id agree and I dont think anybody would really disagree with you but when what you say is not a thought process or based on fact or with any evidence to support it and is just a blatant attack on somebody, it does not categorise under freedom of speech, its assault not a physical one but assault itself.
Freedom of speech does not give you the right to burst out and say what you want when you want in fact it will defend you when a larger majority disagrees with what you say and punishes you for it.
An interesting case in Germany is building with Socialist and Nazi sympathisers are arguing that their political rights and freedom of speech are being cut over laws in Germany based on the holocaust and post war Germany and how state beliefs interfere with certain political beliefs will be interesting how that one works out.
With regards to Liam Stacey he is not a victim of someones freedom of speech being taken away from them more he is an aggressor targeting a man who is a different skin colour who thought he could get away with it because he was on the internet.

Jonny i respect your opinion, but my opinion is yours is just Politically correct bullshit. Try working in the real world. Some is banter some is malicious but sticks and stones ETC. I thought that was taught in schools. If i call you a wanker should i go to jail do not pass go don't collect £200 ? How about if i called you a white Wanker should i now go to Jail ? Or how about a White Steward wanker should i now do some Porridge ? f**k sakes if everyone went to jail for being abusive we'd all be there. Especially those hypocritical politicians.

Never thought I'd say this but POLO got it spot on!!
Don't care for the little fukker and I hope he gets broken inside.
However people walk the streets that have been convicted of a lot worse crimes.

It doesn't need this to highlight the poor justice system, them two fuks who killed that poor Bulger boy
Will never have to work a day in their lives, they will be hidden and cared for in and by our society.

What message are we sending out ?

peoples loss of freedoms are always the first defence of a criminal especially in cases like these. 'I have freedom of speech and I have a right to say how I feel'. Yes id agree and I dont think anybody would really disagree with you but when what you say is not a thought process or based on fact or with any evidence to support it and is just a blatant attack on somebody, it does not categorise under freedom of speech, its assault not a physical one but assault itself.
Freedom of speech does not give you the right to burst out and say what you want when you want in fact it will defend you when a larger majority disagrees with what you say and punishes you for it.
An interesting case in Germany is building with Socialist and Nazi sympathisers are arguing that their political rights and freedom of speech are being cut over laws in Germany based on the holocaust and post war Germany and how state beliefs interfere with certain political beliefs will be interesting how that one works out.
With regards to Liam Stacey he is not a victim of someones freedom of speech being taken away from them more he is an aggressor targeting a man who is a different skin colour who thought he could get away with it because he was on the internet.

Jonny i respect your opinion, but my opinion is yours is just Politically correct bullshit. Try working in the real world. Some is banter some is malicious but sticks and stones ETC. I thought that was taught in schools. If i call you a wanker should i go to jail do not pass go don't collect £200 ? How about if i called you a white Wanker should i now go to Jail ? Or how about a White Steward wanker should i now do some Porridge ? f**k sakes if everyone went to jail for being abusive we'd all be there. Especially those hypocritical politicians.

Thank you for respecting my opinion but now I'm going to try and tear yours apart lol
Sticks and stones is about old as the human rights law we have in this country which is based on good fundamental points but is now blinded by new thinking and evolution and progression in Europe
Words do hurt and from personal experience can ruin people's lives and should not be passed off as banter
What this man said he has no physical evidence to back him up
If you want to call me a shit steward you have a right to as it is you're right if you watch me work and find error in it you have your evidence but I will be able to use evidence saying I'm a pretty good steward
What this man said cannot be defended using freedom of speech because what he said you cannot back up with evidence
Apologise for poor spelling and grammar I'm sending this on my mobile device

He wasn't calling people wankers.

No one would go to jail for calling someone a wanker.

Don't simplify it.

f*cking wanker - I can call you that without any fear of the police knocking on my door.

Wanker wanker wanker wanker wanker welsh wanker welsh white wanker black wanker welsh black wanker. Where did that start being offensive then ?

I'll take a stab at it....

Something along the lines....

'you f*cking WANKER wog c**t! f**k off and die, you dirty ape c**t'

Which is on par with what he was posting on Twitter.

As you see, wanker, he wasn't just calling people wankers.

Liam Stacey has been jailed for comments made about Fabrice Muamba. Although what he said was 'f**k Muamba he's dead #LOL. Now I have see many people say worse things online and not be jailed. Is Freedom of speech being affected here if someone can go to jail for saying something like this. For all you hypocrites about to jump on think first about what you may have said about Swansea players. Now if you want to see everything he said go to youtube and type in Liam Stacey.

From what I seen on his Twitter he deserved to do time. There's freedom of speech then there's saying "Only another imigrant thats dead" along with the rest of the racist remarks he made. I believe his imprisonment isn't a thing of he cant have freedom of speech but its deemed "hate speech" and "racial abuse" and everybody knows that you will do time for either offense.

Stan Collymore was the fella who forwarded the tweets to the police and its not the first person he's had put in prison for racist remarks.

^^^I just wanted to HL the style of what Stacey was Tweeting.

That is what got him in the shit.

Wanker wanker wanker wanker wanker welsh wanker welsh white wanker black wanker welsh black wanker. Where did that start being offensive then ?

It depends on how far away from the line you are some people will tell you callin someone a wanker is unacceptable some people will say its normal
My argument would be I'm pretty sure the person being called a wanker would not like it but is considered acceptable
As soon as you bring something else into it it's unacceptable white black welsh Pakistani any other type is wrong because what's your skin colour nationality or religion got to do with you being a wanker
Fabrice Muamba might well be a wanker but what's his skin colour got to do with anything or his legal status in this country