Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:14 pm
Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:19 pm
carlccfc wrote:If the match ball goes into the crowd after the full time whistle then they must not try and retrieve it.
This is after a steward tried to get a ball back off a child in the family stand after it was given by David Marshall to the child at the Burnley game.
The club held an internal inquiry and decided that from the Coventry game and on, if the ball is in the stands and the full time whistle has blown then the stewards will make no attempt to retrieve the ball.
Talking to a steward's supervisor in the family stand on Wednesday, he told me that the reason his steward tried to retrieve the ball was that it is a Fifa regulation that the match ball is carried off the pitch by the match officials and only once the ball has gone down the tunnel can it then come back out and be given away, he also said that if a player gives the ball away at the end of the game then that payer will be fined by the club.
For me it is a shame that the steward from the Burnley game didn't use common sense and allow the child to receive the ball as a gift from Marshall as it was intended.
Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:24 pm
Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:27 pm
Johnny Rythmn wrote:Well, I'll be expecting the lads to fire a few into the stands after evry game from now on!
The kids will olove them for it and it may ensure a few season tickets are sold for next season.
If kenny Miller can't find the back of the net then he may find the back of the Canton Stand
Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:38 pm
Nedd Glas wrote:Johnny Rythmn wrote:Well, I'll be expecting the lads to fire a few into the stands after evry game from now on!
The kids will olove them for it and it may ensure a few season tickets are sold for next season.
If kenny Miller can't find the back of the net then he may find the back of the Canton Stand
Fair play to McSheffrey, he hit a quality shot into the Family Stand on Wednesday night.
He was supposed to be taking a penalty, but I think he heard someone say "kick that ball into the stand for the kids."
Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:03 pm
Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:04 pm
CantonJack wrote:I was hoping this would be something to do with standing areas. Like 117/118 officially allowed to stand.
I'm allowed to dream, aren't I?
Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:44 pm
carlccfc wrote:Talking to a steward's supervisor in the family stand on Wednesday, he told me that the reason his steward tried to retrieve the ball was that it is a Fifa regulation that the match ball is carried off the pitch by the match officials and only once the ball has gone down the tunnel can it then come back out and be given away, he also said that if a player gives the ball away at the end of the game then that payer will be fined by the club.
Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:55 pm
Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:00 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:Yes but there is a problem here !! At the final whistle there would be no one left in the Family Stand to catch the fooking thing
Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:35 pm
polo wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Yes but there is a problem here !! At the final whistle there would be no one left in the Family Stand to catch the fooking thing
When I first started watching city we were so shit the highlight was keeping the balk whilst the oppo keeper asked for it back and then got pissy when it was chucked about
Probably get a 3 year ban for that now
Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:37 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:polo wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Yes but there is a problem here !! At the final whistle there would be no one left in the Family Stand to catch the fooking thing
When I first started watching city we were so shit the highlight was keeping the balk whilst the oppo keeper asked for it back and then got pissy when it was chucked about
Probably get a 3 year ban for that now
Well our lot just chucked the ball around aimlessly the other night. Will they get a ban ? But Chief yes those were the Days. And you didnt have the pissy do gooders having a go either Because they would of got filled in
Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:57 am
Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:04 am
Nuclearblue wrote:Yes but there is a problem here !! At the final whistle there would be no one left in the Family Stand to catch the fooking thing
Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:14 am
Halifax93 wrote:I saw the incident with the "child" - you make him sound like a little, cute 7 year old - he was actually a huge teenage lump of a lad who was stroppier than Naomi Campbell with sleep deprivation.
Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:26 am
Bakedalasker wrote:Halifax93 wrote:I saw the incident with the "child" - you make him sound like a little, cute 7 year old - he was actually a huge teenage lump of a lad who was stroppier than Naomi Campbell with sleep deprivation.
Got to admit he was a bit larger than average for his age.
He was insistant though because after leaving the stand in the first instance he did return with a determination to have the ball. It obviously mean't a lot to him.
Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:07 pm
Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:42 pm
nerd wrote:Hypothetical.
Cardiff player scores a hattrick, end of game, opponent puts ball into stand.
Should the player not receive the match ball for his hat trick?
Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:52 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:Yes but there is a problem here !! At the final whistle there would be no one left in the Family Stand to catch the fooking thing
Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:04 pm
Halifax93 wrote:I saw the incident with the "child" - you make him sound like a little, cute 7 year old - he was actually a huge teenage lump of a lad who was stroppier than Naomi Campbell with sleep deprivation.
Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:55 pm
Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:59 pm
carlccfc wrote:If the match ball goes into the crowd after the full time whistle then they must not try and retrieve it.
This is after a steward tried to get a ball back off a child in the family stand after it was given by David Marshall to the child at the Burnley game.
The club held an internal inquiry and decided that from the Coventry game and on, if the ball is in the stands and the full time whistle has blown then the stewards will make no attempt to retrieve the ball.
Talking to a steward's supervisor in the family stand on Wednesday, he told me that the reason his steward tried to retrieve the ball was that it is a Fifa regulation that the match ball is carried off the pitch by the match officials and only once the ball has gone down the tunnel can it then come back out and be given away, he also said that if a player gives the ball away at the end of the game then that payer will be fined by the club.
For me it is a shame that the steward from the Burnley game didn't use common sense and allow the child to receive the ball as a gift from Marshall as it was intended.
Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:21 pm
carlccfc wrote:If the match ball goes into the crowd after the full time whistle then they must not try and retrieve it.
This is after a steward tried to get a ball back off a child in the family stand after it was given by David Marshall to the child at the Burnley game.
The club held an internal inquiry and decided that from the Coventry game and on, if the ball is in the stands and the full time whistle has blown then the stewards will make no attempt to retrieve the ball.
Talking to a steward's supervisor in the family stand on Wednesday, he told me that the reason his steward tried to retrieve the ball was that it is a Fifa regulation that the match ball is carried off the pitch by the match officials and only once the ball has gone down the tunnel can it then come back out and be given away, he also said that if a player gives the ball away at the end of the game then that payer will be fined by the club.
For me it is a shame that the steward from the Burnley game didn't use common sense and allow the child to receive the ball as a gift from Marshall as it was intended.
Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:26 pm
JONNY012697 wrote:carlccfc wrote:If the match ball goes into the crowd after the full time whistle then they must not try and retrieve it.
This is after a steward tried to get a ball back off a child in the family stand after it was given by David Marshall to the child at the Burnley game.
The club held an internal inquiry and decided that from the Coventry game and on, if the ball is in the stands and the full time whistle has blown then the stewards will make no attempt to retrieve the ball.
Talking to a steward's supervisor in the family stand on Wednesday, he told me that the reason his steward tried to retrieve the ball was that it is a Fifa regulation that the match ball is carried off the pitch by the match officials and only once the ball has gone down the tunnel can it then come back out and be given away, he also said that if a player gives the ball away at the end of the game then that payer will be fined by the club.
For me it is a shame that the steward from the Burnley game didn't use common sense and allow the child to receive the ball as a gift from Marshall as it was intended.
first of all from what ive heard David Marshall didnt give the ball to anyone he kicked the ball into the stand so to use the word 'gift' is a bit loose.
second up until the Coventry game this was a club rule. The club want their balls back whether they are training balls or the match ball, so its the club that have changed their policy in the interests of keeping the fans happy rather than over zealous stewarding (they are just doing what their employers are asking them to do).
as for this FIFA regulation its the first ive heard of it but all im interested in is the instructions given to me by my employer.
as for using common sense, yes i agree with you but when 'common sense' conflicts with the instructions given to you what are you supposed to do, I dont really want to lose my job over the rights of common sense.
this episode has really annoyed me as a steward especially when the words 'internal investigation' was used because at the end of the day the steward is just following instructions given to him by the club, if the club change their policy great but I dont like the way the stewards have been made to look bad for just following instructions, especially after the levels of abuse we as stewards receive from the club when do not retrieve the balls.
Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:29 pm
JONNY012697 wrote:carlccfc wrote:If the match ball goes into the crowd after the full time whistle then they must not try and retrieve it.
This is after a steward tried to get a ball back off a child in the family stand after it was given by David Marshall to the child at the Burnley game.
The club held an internal inquiry and decided that from the Coventry game and on, if the ball is in the stands and the full time whistle has blown then the stewards will make no attempt to retrieve the ball.
Talking to a steward's supervisor in the family stand on Wednesday, he told me that the reason his steward tried to retrieve the ball was that it is a Fifa regulation that the match ball is carried off the pitch by the match officials and only once the ball has gone down the tunnel can it then come back out and be given away, he also said that if a player gives the ball away at the end of the game then that payer will be fined by the club.
For me it is a shame that the steward from the Burnley game didn't use common sense and allow the child to receive the ball as a gift from Marshall as it was intended.
first of all from what ive heard David Marshall didnt give the ball to anyone he kicked the ball into the stand so to use the word 'gift' is a bit loose.
That is total and utter rubbish Jonney. Who told you this. Marshal walked up to the kid and handed the ball to him. Why do I say that....becuase I saw it with my own eyes.
second up until the Coventry game this was a club rule. The club want their balls back whether they are training balls or the match ball, so its the club that have changed their policy in the interests of keeping the fans happy rather than over zealous stewarding (they are just doing what their employers are asking them to do).
as for this FIFA regulation its the first ive heard of it but all im interested in is the instructions given to me by my employer.
as for using common sense, yes i agree with you but when 'common sense' conflicts with the instructions given to you what are you supposed to do, I dont really want to lose my job over the rights of common sense.
this episode has really annoyed me as a steward especially when the words 'internal investigation' was used because at the end of the day the steward is just following instructions given to him by the club, if the club change their policy great but I dont like the way the stewards have been made to look bad for just following instructions, especially after the levels of abuse we as stewards receive from the club when do not retrieve the balls.
Actually I do sympathise with the stewards situation here although I did not agree with the aggressive approach of this particular steward.
Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:46 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:carlccfc wrote:If the match ball goes into the crowd after the full time whistle then they must not try and retrieve it.
This is after a steward tried to get a ball back off a child in the family stand after it was given by David Marshall to the child at the Burnley game.
The club held an internal inquiry and decided that from the Coventry game and on, if the ball is in the stands and the full time whistle has blown then the stewards will make no attempt to retrieve the ball.
Talking to a steward's supervisor in the family stand on Wednesday, he told me that the reason his steward tried to retrieve the ball was that it is a Fifa regulation that the match ball is carried off the pitch by the match officials and only once the ball has gone down the tunnel can it then come back out and be given away, he also said that if a player gives the ball away at the end of the game then that payer will be fined by the club.
For me it is a shame that the steward from the Burnley game didn't use common sense and allow the child to receive the ball as a gift from Marshall as it was intended.
first of all from what ive heard David Marshall didnt give the ball to anyone he kicked the ball into the stand so to use the word 'gift' is a bit loose.
That is total and utter rubbish Jonney. Who told you this. Marshal walked up to the kid and handed the ball to him. Why do I say that....becuase I saw it with my own eyes.
second up until the Coventry game this was a club rule. The club want their balls back whether they are training balls or the match ball, so its the club that have changed their policy in the interests of keeping the fans happy rather than over zealous stewarding (they are just doing what their employers are asking them to do).
as for this FIFA regulation its the first ive heard of it but all im interested in is the instructions given to me by my employer.
as for using common sense, yes i agree with you but when 'common sense' conflicts with the instructions given to you what are you supposed to do, I dont really want to lose my job over the rights of common sense.
this episode has really annoyed me as a steward especially when the words 'internal investigation' was used because at the end of the day the steward is just following instructions given to him by the club, if the club change their policy great but I dont like the way the stewards have been made to look bad for just following instructions, especially after the levels of abuse we as stewards receive from the club when do not retrieve the balls.
Actually I do sympathise with the stewards situation here although I did not agree with the aggressive approach of this particular steward.
Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:48 pm
JONNY012697 wrote:carlccfc wrote:If the match ball goes into the crowd after the full time whistle then they must not try and retrieve it.
This is after a steward tried to get a ball back off a child in the family stand after it was given by David Marshall to the child at the Burnley game.
The club held an internal inquiry and decided that from the Coventry game and on, if the ball is in the stands and the full time whistle has blown then the stewards will make no attempt to retrieve the ball.
Talking to a steward's supervisor in the family stand on Wednesday, he told me that the reason his steward tried to retrieve the ball was that it is a Fifa regulation that the match ball is carried off the pitch by the match officials and only once the ball has gone down the tunnel can it then come back out and be given away, he also said that if a player gives the ball away at the end of the game then that payer will be fined by the club.
For me it is a shame that the steward from the Burnley game didn't use common sense and allow the child to receive the ball as a gift from Marshall as it was intended.
first of all from what ive heard David Marshall didnt give the ball to anyone he kicked the ball into the stand so to use the word 'gift' is a bit loose.
second up until the Coventry game this was a club rule. The club want their balls back whether they are training balls or the match ball, so its the club that have changed their policy in the interests of keeping the fans happy rather than over zealous stewarding (they are just doing what their employers are asking them to do).
as for this FIFA regulation its the first ive heard of it but all im interested in is the instructions given to me by my employer.
as for using common sense, yes i agree with you but when 'common sense' conflicts with the instructions given to you what are you supposed to do, I dont really want to lose my job over the rights of common sense.
this episode has really annoyed me as a steward especially when the words 'internal investigation' was used because at the end of the day the steward is just following instructions given to him by the club, if the club change their policy great but I dont like the way the stewards have been made to look bad for just following instructions, especially after the levels of abuse we as stewards receive from the club when do not retrieve the balls.
Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:58 pm
Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:02 pm
carlccfc wrote:JONNY012697 wrote:carlccfc wrote:If the match ball goes into the crowd after the full time whistle then they must not try and retrieve it.
This is after a steward tried to get a ball back off a child in the family stand after it was given by David Marshall to the child at the Burnley game.
The club held an internal inquiry and decided that from the Coventry game and on, if the ball is in the stands and the full time whistle has blown then the stewards will make no attempt to retrieve the ball.
Talking to a steward's supervisor in the family stand on Wednesday, he told me that the reason his steward tried to retrieve the ball was that it is a Fifa regulation that the match ball is carried off the pitch by the match officials and only once the ball has gone down the tunnel can it then come back out and be given away, he also said that if a player gives the ball away at the end of the game then that payer will be fined by the club.
For me it is a shame that the steward from the Burnley game didn't use common sense and allow the child to receive the ball as a gift from Marshall as it was intended.
first of all from what ive heard David Marshall didnt give the ball to anyone he kicked the ball into the stand so to use the word 'gift' is a bit loose.
second up until the Coventry game this was a club rule. The club want their balls back whether they are training balls or the match ball, so its the club that have changed their policy in the interests of keeping the fans happy rather than over zealous stewarding (they are just doing what their employers are asking them to do).
as for this FIFA regulation its the first ive heard of it but all im interested in is the instructions given to me by my employer.
as for using common sense, yes i agree with you but when 'common sense' conflicts with the instructions given to you what are you supposed to do, I dont really want to lose my job over the rights of common sense.
this episode has really annoyed me as a steward especially when the words 'internal investigation' was used because at the end of the day the steward is just following instructions given to him by the club, if the club change their policy great but I dont like the way the stewards have been made to look bad for just following instructions, especially after the levels of abuse we as stewards receive from the club when do not retrieve the balls.
Excuse me Jonny-cum-lately but you are working on hearsay and I saw the incident, Marshall did not kick the ball, he got within a few metres of the kid and threw him the ball.
Whether or not there are rules and regulations there can still be common sense applied, which thankfully has now happened. What is not in your rules and regulations is putting your hands on somebody because you couldn't get your own way, let me tell you something as a fan Jonny, had that been my son or daughter that the 'little hitler' tried to take the ball off or put his hands on then the situation would have got a lot more serious.
As you are probably aware I was the person who went and took a photo of the steward and told him everything I felt he had done wrong because of that the policy has been changed and rightfully so.
Tell me have you been told that any player giving the ball away will be fined?
Have you been informed that the lad involved will be invited to the club and given the ball?
What would you have done had you been the steward in that area when Marshall gave the kid the ball?
Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:05 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Well all I'll say to you Jonny is that you were informed wrongly.