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6 bysedd wrote:He had an excellent relationship with Joe for years,or so it seemed.Warren knew with Joe he could make obscene amounts of money and milked it for what it was worth.Tocker Pudwell ffs Will Mcintyre Only when he had to did he pair Joe with someone live.Towards the end i think Joe realised his worth and his confidence grew after he beat Lacy and Kessler.That's when the problems started and Calzaghe realised he's been mugged off all these years.What a fighter though and the best Britains ever produced imo.
Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:42 pm
Ackers wrote:6 bysedd wrote:He had an excellent relationship with Joe for years,or so it seemed.Warren knew with Joe he could make obscene amounts of money and milked it for what it was worth.Tocker Pudwell ffs Will Mcintyre Only when he had to did he pair Joe with someone live.Towards the end i think Joe realised his worth and his confidence grew after he beat Lacy and Kessler.That's when the problems started and Calzaghe realised he's been mugged off all these years.What a fighter though and the best Britains ever produced imo.
Agreed with most for that until you said Calzaghe is the best British boxer ever. I think he isn't even the best Welsh boxer. Tommy Farr was better than him imo.
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Ackers wrote:Without doubt one of the best boxers in my time too. But Farr and also Jimmy Wilde use to fight. Not like some of these exhibition fight Joe called world title defences
Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:19 pm
Jimmy Wilde was the greatest fighter pound for pound according to most decent american boxing books. Very hard to compare fighters from different eras . Wales has produced many great fightersAckers wrote:Without doubt one of the best boxers in my time too. But Farr and also Jimmy Wilde use to fight. Not like some of these exhibition fight Joe called world title defences
Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:26 pm
cardiff yid wrote:Jimmy Wilde was the greatest fighter pound for pound according to most decent american boxing books. Very hard to compare fighters from different eras . Wales has produced many great fightersAckers wrote:Without doubt one of the best boxers in my time too. But Farr and also Jimmy Wilde use to fight. Not like some of these exhibition fight Joe called world title defences
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6 bysedd wrote:Farr and Wilde fought before the First World War mun lol No one on here would have seen them fight other than grainy archive footage.I honestly believe Calzaghes the best British boxer in living memory.And if your calling it on what boxing pundits have said then theres plenty who say Joe was too.I also believe Joe would have been rated even higher had his hands held out more and not been so soft.Early on in his career and when his hands were good he had real knockout power *chinning Eubank*but once they went he never had the confidence to hit as hard.He then just outboxed his opponents for the rest of his career.
Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:17 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:I love these "who is the best Boxers threads". The truth is we all have different opinions and no one is right and no one is wrong.
Over the last century Wales have had some fantastic Boxers from Jimmy Driscoll to Jimmy Wilde. Tommy Farr, Joe Calzaghe, Now Nathan. How good is Nathan well we will find out as he goes up in Class.
But with Boxing i hate the politics of it. I hope we can see Mayweather v manny but i doubt it. But for any Boxing fan i can strongly advise you read some of the above autobiographies . Driscolls "Peerless Jim" Jimmy Wilde's and Joe's all cracking reads i can promise you. Especially the first two Jimmy Driscoll was the first i read over twenty years ago and i still remember a lot of it, the man was of Irish background and when he died the gathering in Cardiff was massive and is buried in Cathay's cemetery if you can find a copy of his book please read it it breathtaking
Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:19 pm
splottbluebird48 wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:I love these "who is the best Boxers threads". The truth is we all have different opinions and no one is right and no one is wrong.
Over the last century Wales have had some fantastic Boxers from Jimmy Driscoll to Jimmy Wilde. Tommy Farr, Joe Calzaghe, Now Nathan. How good is Nathan well we will find out as he goes up in Class.
But with Boxing i hate the politics of it. I hope we can see Mayweather v manny but i doubt it. But for any Boxing fan i can strongly advise you read some of the above autobiographies . Driscolls "Peerless Jim" Jimmy Wilde's and Joe's all cracking reads i can promise you. Especially the first two Jimmy Driscoll was the first i read over twenty years ago and i still remember a lot of it, the man was of Irish background and when he died the gathering in Cardiff was massive and is buried in Cathay's cemetery if you can find a copy of his book please read it it breathtaking
You mention great Welsh boxers but yo failed to mention the great JohneyOwen