Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:18 pm
Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:25 pm
Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:26 pm
swansealad69 wrote:Since1980 untill last season you average higher gates then us in a season only 6 times,,???hardly a landslide,allso yes you have won the fa cup?1927,hardly a huge achievement,as the armed forces took part around them days,but yes you have won it,up untill the 60s you were in the top leagues,wile we were in the lower and that's why your support is higher and you have pockets of support around the swansea area,But since the70 you have struggled wile we have been in the old first,been to the old wemberly twice in finalls and achived more then you since the 80s.
You keep talking on how big your support is,up untill 10 years ago you Would hardly see any thing to do with swans up in the valleys,and most off port talbot 15 years back was cardiff,but now its the opposite and you will see many kids in the valleys wearing swansea stuff,,things have changed and the balance is swinging our way thanks now to us being in the prem,unless you get ther or we go down our support will only get bigger and with adding more seats at the end of the season more will be able to get in.
You say we have shit crowds but can only fill what we have,we have 16k season ticket holders that's all we were allowed to sell as a min of 2k have to be made available on the day,and 2.500 for away,every game is a sellout weekss before the game,and when we increase our ground to 27k we will still sellout as soo many aree on the waiting list,that's why next season tickets have been on sale to existing holders for the last month and allready most have got them,,so things are changing and unless you get to the prem soon we will become the biggest of the two if not allready..
Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:29 pm
swansealad69 wrote:Since1980 untill last season you average higher gates then us in a season only 6 times,,???hardly a landslide,allso yes you have won the fa cup?1927,hardly a huge achievement,as the armed forces took part around them days,but yes you have won it,up untill the 60s you were in the top leagues,wile we were in the lower and that's why your support is higher and you have pockets of support around the swansea area,But since the70 you have struggled wile we have been in the old first,been to the old wemberly twice in finalls and achived more then you since the 80s.
You keep talking on how big your support is,up untill 10 years ago you Would hardly see any thing to do with swans up in the valleys,and most off port talbot 15 years back was cardiff,but now its the opposite and you will see many kids in the valleys wearing swansea stuff,,things have changed and the balance is swinging our way thanks now to us being in the prem,unless you get ther or we go down our support will only get bigger and with adding more seats at the end of the season more will be able to get in.
You say we have shit crowds but can only fill what we have,we have 16k season ticket holders that's all we were allowed to sell as a min of 2k have to be made available on the day,and 2.500 for away,every game is a sellout weekss before the game,and when we increase our ground to 27k we will still sellout as soo many aree on the waiting list,that's why next season tickets have been on sale to existing holders for the last month and allready most have got them,,so things are changing and unless you get to the prem soon we will become the biggest of the two if not allready..
Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:54 pm
Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:57 pm
swansealad69 wrote:Since1980 untill last season you average higher gates then us in a season only 6 times,,???hardly a landslide,allso yes you have won the fa cup?1927,hardly a huge achievement,as the armed forces took part around them days,but yes you have won it,up untill the 60s you were in the top leagues,wile we were in the lower and that's why your support is higher and you have pockets of support around the swansea area,But since the70 you have struggled wile we have been in the old first,been to the old wemberly twice in finalls and achived more then you since the 80s.
You keep talking on how big your support is,up untill 10 years ago you Would hardly see any thing to do with swans up in the valleys,and most off port talbot 15 years back was cardiff,but now its the opposite and you will see many kids in the valleys wearing swansea stuff,,things have changed and the balance is swinging our way thanks now to us being in the prem,unless you get ther or we go down our support will only get bigger and with adding more seats at the end of the season more will be able to get in.
You say we have shit crowds but can only fill what we have,we have 16k season ticket holders that's all we were allowed to sell as a min of 2k have to be made available on the day,and 2.500 for away,every game is a sellout weekss before the game,and when we increase our ground to 27k we will still sellout as soo many aree on the waiting list,that's why next season tickets have been on sale to existing holders for the last month and allready most have got them,,so things are changing and unless you get to the prem soon we will become the biggest of the two if not allready..
Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:10 pm
Lawnmower wrote:
I actually don't think you have any concrete plan at all to expand and won't do so for a couple of seasons at least. For the reasons I've already mentioned. although giver Jenkins quotes in the past he may well be thinking along the lines of trying to emulate us -after all it was his fascination for the last 7-8 years.
Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:10 pm
Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:magicdaps wrote:Blazing Saddles wrote:Fact -----smaller clubs have smaller grounds and smaller attendances. i rest my case.
It's not rocket science fella's. Lets be honest, Cardiff should have bigger attendances. It's a higher populated city with a bigger catchment area. Don't think anyone can deny that, but does that necessarily make you a bigger club? Not sure it does to be honest. The Swans have played in the top tier of football twice in recent decades so that balances things out for me. Infact if anything it highlights the mighty Cardiff city as being even bigger underachievers than we already knew they were. Aren't you supposed to be "bigger than Barcelona"? Your slightly higher average attendances are really nothing to be proud about when you take everything into account.
thats like us saying that we are a bigger club than say " sheffield wednesday as we are playing at a higher league than them for the last couple of seasons... its bollocks.... just because a team are currently playing at a lower division it doesnt make them any smaller...
honours & records
Records
Original colours
Main article: List of Cardiff City F.C. records and statistics
Club Record Attendance: 57,893 vs. Arsenal
At Ninian Park: 57,893 vs. Arsenal
At Cardiff City Stadium: 26,058 vs. Queens Park Rangers, 23 April 2011
Year Formed: 1899 (as Riverside A.F.C.)
Previous Names: 1899 Riverside A.F.C.; 1902 Riverside Albion; 1908 Cardiff City
Previous Grounds: Ninian Park, Riverside, Sophia Gardens, Old Park and Fir Gardens until 1910
Record Transfer fee paid: £3,000,000, Michael Chopra, 4 July 2009.[38]
Record Transfer fee received: £5,000,000, Michael Chopra, 2007, and Roger Johnson, 2009.[39]
[edit]Honours
FA Cup
Winners: – 1927
Runners-up: – 1925, 2008
FA Charity Shield
Winners: – 1927
First Division
Runners-up: – 1923–24
Second Division
Runners-up: – 1920–21, 1951–52, 1959–60 (As second tier)
Play-Off Winners: – 2002–03 (As third tier)
Third Division South
Champions: – 1946–47
Third Division
Champions: – 1992–93
Runners-up: – 1975–76, 1982–83
Fourth Division
Runners-up: – 1987–88
Southern Football League Second Division
Champions: – 1913
Welsh Cup
Winners: – 1912, 1920, 1922, 1923, 1927, 1928, 1930, 1956, 1959, 1964, 1965, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1973, 1974, 1976, 1988, 1992, 1993
FAW Premier Cup
Winners: – 2002
FAW Welsh Youth Cup
Winners: – 1990, 1995, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2006
Runners-up: – 1992, 2005, 2008
FAW Invitation Cup
Runners-up: – 1998
Centenary Cup
Winners: – 1999
Algarve Challenge Cup
Winners: – 2008
VansDirect Cup
Winners: – 2008 (shared)
[edit]Sources
highest attendance at vetch v arsenal 1968 32786
highest attendancw at lib v villa 2011 20404
highest attendance at ninian pk v arsenal 57893
highest attendance at ccs v qpr 2011 26058
Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:11 pm
Lawnmower wrote:swansealad69 wrote:Since1980 untill last season you average higher gates then us in a season only 6 times,,???hardly a landslide,allso yes you have won the fa cup?1927,hardly a huge achievement,as the armed forces took part around them days,but yes you have won it,up untill the 60s you were in the top leagues,wile we were in the lower and that's why your support is higher and you have pockets of support around the swansea area,But since the70 you have struggled wile we have been in the old first,been to the old wemberly twice in finalls and achived more then you since the 80s.
You keep talking on how big your support is,up untill 10 years ago you Would hardly see any thing to do with swans up in the valleys,and most off port talbot 15 years back was cardiff,but now its the opposite and you will see many kids in the valleys wearing swansea stuff,,things have changed and the balance is swinging our way thanks now to us being in the prem,unless you get ther or we go down our support will only get bigger and with adding more seats at the end of the season more will be able to get in.
You say we have shit crowds but can only fill what we have,we have 16k season ticket holders that's all we were allowed to sell as a min of 2k have to be made available on the day,and 2.500 for away,every game is a sellout weekss before the game,and when we increase our ground to 27k we will still sellout as soo many aree on the waiting list,that's why next season tickets have been on sale to existing holders for the last month and allready most have got them,,so things are changing and unless you get to the prem soon we will become the biggest of the two if not allready..
Dear dear. PLEASE FFS check yur facts. you've had oNE season in the last 14 or so when your gates have been higher. We've had the rest and one more this year.
The rest is most likely bollox too but I can't even be bothered going beyond the first sentence, you are in la-ala land.
Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:18 pm
Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:will you invest in one of these swansealad...........
Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:20 pm
Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:21 pm
Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:23 pm
Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:27 pm
magicdaps wrote:Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:will you invest in one of these swansealad...........
Perhaps you should think about getting yourself one Blackwood, seeing as you didn't manage to compose 7 words and attach a photo without f*cking it up and needing an edit.
Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:28 pm
magicdaps wrote:Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:will you invest in one of these swansealad...........
Perhaps you should think about getting yourself one Blackwood, seeing as you didn't manage to compose 7 words and attach a photo without f*cking it up and needing an edit.
Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:38 pm
magicdaps wrote:Gypo'sGypsy filthGypo's could not sell out their own allocation tonight
Ahem, you seem to have forgotten something...
http://wales.gov.uk/docs/statistics/201 ... 2011en.pdf
To recap.. There are 8.0625 gypsies livivng in Cardiff for every 1 in Swansea. FACT!
Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:38 pm
Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:magic daps, i purposely refrained from posting your accolades in fear of embarrassing you.. you list is poor to say the least. plus this are just winners and runners up and exclude the many semi finals of competitions that we have graced... how many wembley appearances have you had?
i also noted that you have never been passed the 2nd rd of a european competition. and in that second round you failed to score home and away... nout changes there then!!!
Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:44 pm
swansealad69 wrote:Since1980 untill last season you average higher gates then us in a season only 6 times,,???hardly a landslide,allso yes you have won the fa cup?1927,hardly a huge achievement,as the armed forces took part around them days,but yes you have won it,up untill the 60s you were in the top leagues,wile we were in the lower and that's why your support is higher and you have pockets of support around the swansea area,But since the70 you have struggled wile we have been in the old first,been to the old wemberly twice in finalls and achived more then you since the 80s.
You keep talking on how big your support is,up untill 10 years ago you Would hardly see any thing to do with swans up in the valleys,and most off port talbot 15 years back was cardiff,but now its the opposite and you will see many kids in the valleys wearing swansea stuff,,things have changed and the balance is swinging our way thanks now to us being in the prem,unless you get ther or we go down our support will only get bigger and with adding more seats at the end of the season more will be able to get in.
You say we have shit crowds but can only fill what we have,we have 16k season ticket holders that's all we were allowed to sell as a min of 2k have to be made available on the day,and 2.500 for away,every game is a sellout weekss before the game,and when we increase our ground to 27k we will still sellout as soo many aree on the waiting list,that's why next season tickets have been on sale to existing holders for the last month and allready most have got them,,so things are changing and unless you get to the prem soon we will become the biggest of the two if not allready..
Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:48 pm
magicdaps wrote:Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:magic daps, i purposely refrained from posting your accolades in fear of embarrassing you.. you list is poor to say the least. plus this are just winners and runners up and exclude the many semi finals of competitions that we have graced... how many wembley appearances have you had?
i also noted that you have never been passed the 2nd rd of a european competition. and in that second round you failed to score home and away... nout changes there then!!!
You pose some rather unfortunate questions from a Cardiff point of view. We don't have to look too far back in history to find the answers...
Accolades? How does premier league sound? Only in your dreams. We are currently living YOUR dream.
Winners and runners up? Swansea City.. winners of the play off's. Cardiff city.. Failed. Again.
Wembley appearances you ask? I was there at the end of last season, and I remember one of the best day's out of my life. Could you say the same? No, I thought not.
Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:55 pm
Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:magicdaps wrote:Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:magic daps, i purposely refrained from posting your accolades in fear of embarrassing you.. you list is poor to say the least. plus this are just winners and runners up and exclude the many semi finals of competitions that we have graced... how many wembley appearances have you had?
i also noted that you have never been passed the 2nd rd of a european competition. and in that second round you failed to score home and away... nout changes there then!!!
You pose some rather unfortunate questions from a Cardiff point of view. We don't have to look too far back in history to find the answers...
Accolades? How does premier league sound? Only in your dreams. We are currently living YOUR dream.
Winners and runners up? Swansea City.. winners of the play off's. Cardiff city.. Failed. Again.
Wembley appearances you ask? I was there at the end of last season, and I remember one of the best day's out of my life. Could you say the same? No, I thought not.
you will do a blackpool mate, all the hype for one season then fuk all.. your crowds will soon be 12-13 k again and you will just be another championship team... wont be long now...
how does prem league sound?? well if your happy to cheer at nil nils and one alls you can keep it mate...
surely you should spend some of that 90 million windfall and buy some players in jan than can actually go forward ...
Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:58 pm
NJ73 wrote:Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:magicdaps wrote:Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:magic daps, i purposely refrained from posting your accolades in fear of embarrassing you.. you list is poor to say the least. plus this are just winners and runners up and exclude the many semi finals of competitions that we have graced... how many wembley appearances have you had?
i also noted that you have never been passed the 2nd rd of a european competition. and in that second round you failed to score home and away... nout changes there then!!!
You pose some rather unfortunate questions from a Cardiff point of view. We don't have to look too far back in history to find the answers...
Accolades? How does premier league sound? Only in your dreams. We are currently living YOUR dream.
Winners and runners up? Swansea City.. winners of the play off's. Cardiff city.. Failed. Again.
Wembley appearances you ask? I was there at the end of last season, and I remember one of the best day's out of my life. Could you say the same? No, I thought not.
you will do a blackpool mate, all the hype for one season then fuk all.. your crowds will soon be 12-13 k again and you will just be another championship team... wont be long now...
how does prem league sound?? well if your happy to cheer at nil nils and one alls you can keep it mate...
surely you should spend some of that 90 million windfall and buy some players in jan than can actually go forward ...
We could, or seeing as that £90m you refer too includes 4 years of parachute payments, we could continue to spend wisely as we have which has brought us to 14th place after 18 games. Far better than 99% of posters on here were expecting.
Danny Graham not doing too shabbily eh?
Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:05 am
Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:07 am
Nuclearblue wrote:Sorry Lads but this thread has got a bit embarrassing on both sides.
Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:07 am
Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:NJ73 wrote:Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:magicdaps wrote:Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:magic daps, i purposely refrained from posting your accolades in fear of embarrassing you.. you list is poor to say the least. plus this are just winners and runners up and exclude the many semi finals of competitions that we have graced... how many wembley appearances have you had?
i also noted that you have never been passed the 2nd rd of a european competition. and in that second round you failed to score home and away... nout changes there then!!!
You pose some rather unfortunate questions from a Cardiff point of view. We don't have to look too far back in history to find the answers...
Accolades? How does premier league sound? Only in your dreams. We are currently living YOUR dream.
Winners and runners up? Swansea City.. winners of the play off's. Cardiff city.. Failed. Again.
Wembley appearances you ask? I was there at the end of last season, and I remember one of the best day's out of my life. Could you say the same? No, I thought not.
you will do a blackpool mate, all the hype for one season then fuk all.. your crowds will soon be 12-13 k again and you will just be another championship team... wont be long now...
how does prem league sound?? well if your happy to cheer at nil nils and one alls you can keep it mate...
surely you should spend some of that 90 million windfall and buy some players in jan than can actually go forward ...
We could, or seeing as that £90m you refer too includes 4 years of parachute payments, we could continue to spend wisely as we have which has brought us to 14th place after 18 games. Far better than 99% of posters on here were expecting.
Danny Graham not doing too shabbily eh?
enlighten me as i dont see him on this list...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... efault.stm
Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:13 am
swansealad69 wrote:You have a 26k stadium, ,we have a 20??,,the lower section of the away end was empty as they did not sell out,,ther for we could not fill the stadium,its not hard even for hillbily folk like you,but you still trying to convince your selfs that you are better then us,,sad realy.
Anyway a extra 6and a half new seats going in at the end of the season to take it to 27k,and as demand for season tickets is so high as they are not allowed to sell more,let alone match day tickets we will fill the 27k allso given us bigger crowds then you,so you will have to find somthing els to convince your sory little selfs,,,small club syndrome I think they call it?
Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:21 am
neathbluebird wrote:swansealad69 wrote:You have a 26k stadium, ,we have a 20??,,the lower section of the away end was empty as they did not sell out,,ther for we could not fill the stadium,its not hard even for hillbily folk like you,but you still trying to convince your selfs that you are better then us,,sad realy.
Anyway a extra 6and a half new seats going in at the end of the season to take it to 27k,and as demand for season tickets is so high as they are not allowed to sell more,let alone match day tickets we will fill the 27k allso given us bigger crowds then you,so you will have to find somthing els to convince your sory little selfs,,,small club syndrome I think they call it?
Where are you going to put an extra 6,000 seats in your little stadium...impossible to do perhaps 600 at a push.As an egg fan as well i have been down on many occassions to watch the ospreys(neath rugby still the backbone of ospreys support)so i should know.By the way you are going to have to pay your way sooner or later for the rent on your council owned stadium,in these days of public sector cutbacks are the overwhelming majority of your good townspeople who do not support the swansea town football club going to be happy to subsidise you lot? Rumour has it the ospreys intend to exercise a break clause in their contract to play at the puberty-and intend to play at a new purpose built stadium in Bridgend.Dont know if you are old enough to remember Toshack`s words when he was manager when you were last in the top flight-THIS CLUB DOES NOT DESERVE SUCCESS AS WE ARE NOT GETTING THE SUPPORT WE DESERVE-cant blame him you were only getting average of 12,000? i think.
Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:22 am
Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:magicdaps wrote:Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:magic daps, i purposely refrained from posting your accolades in fear of embarrassing you.. you list is poor to say the least. plus this are just winners and runners up and exclude the many semi finals of competitions that we have graced... how many wembley appearances have you had?
i also noted that you have never been passed the 2nd rd of a european competition. and in that second round you failed to score home and away... nout changes there then!!!
You pose some rather unfortunate questions from a Cardiff point of view. We don't have to look too far back in history to find the answers...
Accolades? How does premier league sound? Only in your dreams. We are currently living YOUR dream.
Winners and runners up? Swansea City.. winners of the play off's. Cardiff city.. Failed. Again.
Wembley appearances you ask? I was there at the end of last season, and I remember one of the best day's out of my life. Could you say the same? No, I thought not.
you will do a blackpool mate, all the hype for one season then fuk all.. your crowds will soon be 12-13 k again and you will just be another championship team... wont be long now...
how does prem league sound?? well if your happy to cheer at nil nils and one alls you can keep it mate...
surely you should spend some of that 90 million windfall and buy some players in jan than can actually go forward ...
Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:31 am
neathbluebird wrote:swansealad69 wrote:You have a 26k stadium, ,we have a 20??,,the lower section of the away end was empty as they did not sell out,,ther for we could not fill the stadium,its not hard even for hillbily folk like you,but you still trying to convince your selfs that you are better then us,,sad realy.
Anyway a extra 6and a half new seats going in at the end of the season to take it to 27k,and as demand for season tickets is so high as they are not allowed to sell more,let alone match day tickets we will fill the 27k allso given us bigger crowds then you,so you will have to find somthing els to convince your sory little selfs,,,small club syndrome I think they call it?
Where are you going to put an extra 6,000 seats in your little stadium...impossible to do perhaps 600 at a push.As an egg fan as well i have been down on many occassions to watch the ospreys(neath rugby still the backbone of ospreys support)so i should know.By the way you are going to have to pay your way sooner or later for the rent on your council owned stadium,in these days of public sector cutbacks are the overwhelming majority of your good townspeople who do not support the swansea town football club going to be happy to subsidise you lot? Rumour has it the ospreys intend to exercise a break clause in their contract to play at the puberty-and intend to play at a new purpose built stadium in Bridgend.Dont know if you are old enough to remember Toshack`s words when he was manager when you were last in the top flight-THIS CLUB DOES NOT DESERVE SUCCESS AS WE ARE NOT GETTING THE SUPPORT WE DESERVE-cant blame him you were only getting average of 12,000? i think.
Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:34 am
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:neathbluebird wrote:swansealad69 wrote:You have a 26k stadium, ,we have a 20??,,the lower section of the away end was empty as they did not sell out,,ther for we could not fill the stadium,its not hard even for hillbily folk like you,but you still trying to convince your selfs that you are better then us,,sad realy.
Anyway a extra 6and a half new seats going in at the end of the season to take it to 27k,and as demand for season tickets is so high as they are not allowed to sell more,let alone match day tickets we will fill the 27k allso given us bigger crowds then you,so you will have to find somthing els to convince your sory little selfs,,,small club syndrome I think they call it?
Where are you going to put an extra 6,000 seats in your little stadium...impossible to do perhaps 600 at a push.As an egg fan as well i have been down on many occassions to watch the ospreys(neath rugby still the backbone of ospreys support)so i should know.By the way you are going to have to pay your way sooner or later for the rent on your council owned stadium,in these days of public sector cutbacks are the overwhelming majority of your good townspeople who do not support the swansea town football club going to be happy to subsidise you lot? Rumour has it the ospreys intend to exercise a break clause in their contract to play at the puberty-and intend to play at a new purpose built stadium in Bridgend.Dont know if you are old enough to remember Toshack`s words when he was manager when you were last in the top flight-THIS CLUB DOES NOT DESERVE SUCCESS AS WE ARE NOT GETTING THE SUPPORT WE DESERVE-cant blame him you were only getting average of 12,000? i think.
The arsepreys can get the f**k away from Bridgend. Just turn Bridgend town fc semi pro or pro and chuck em in the English pyramid, they will get decent support
Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:02 am
neathbluebird wrote:Bridgend_bluebird wrote:neathbluebird wrote:swansealad69 wrote:You have a 26k stadium, ,we have a 20??,,the lower section of the away end was empty as they did not sell out,,ther for we could not fill the stadium,its not hard even for hillbily folk like you,but you still trying to convince your selfs that you are better then us,,sad realy.
Anyway a extra 6and a half new seats going in at the end of the season to take it to 27k,and as demand for season tickets is so high as they are not allowed to sell more,let alone match day tickets we will fill the 27k allso given us bigger crowds then you,so you will have to find somthing els to convince your sory little selfs,,,small club syndrome I think they call it?
Where are you going to put an extra 6,000 seats in your little stadium...impossible to do perhaps 600 at a push.As an egg fan as well i have been down on many occassions to watch the ospreys(neath rugby still the backbone of ospreys support)so i should know.By the way you are going to have to pay your way sooner or later for the rent on your council owned stadium,in these days of public sector cutbacks are the overwhelming majority of your good townspeople who do not support the swansea town football club going to be happy to subsidise you lot? Rumour has it the ospreys intend to exercise a break clause in their contract to play at the puberty-and intend to play at a new purpose built stadium in Bridgend.Dont know if you are old enough to remember Toshack`s words when he was manager when you were last in the top flight-THIS CLUB DOES NOT DESERVE SUCCESS AS WE ARE NOT GETTING THE SUPPORT WE DESERVE-cant blame him you were only getting average of 12,000? i think.
The arsepreys can get the f**k away from Bridgend. Just turn Bridgend town fc semi pro or pro and chuck em in the English pyramid, they will get decent support
just a rumour about bridgend but they are deffo looking to get out of having to play every game at the puberty