Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:01 am
Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:15 am
BigGwynram wrote:If we bring in new players, then who do we leave out, we do have a fair bit of cover and I'm concerend that any new faces need to fit in and not rock the boat.
Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:28 am
Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:30 am
nicky evans wrote:maybe conway if we bring in a winger he hasnt done much over the last few games but works hard and is a good player
Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:35 am
Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:38 am
BigGwynram wrote:If we bring in new players, then who do we leave out, we do have a fair bit of cover and I'm concerend that any new faces need to fit in and not rock the boat.
Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:41 am
Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:43 am
carlccfc wrote:BigGwynram wrote:If we bring in new players, then who do we leave out, we do have a fair bit of cover and I'm concerend that any new faces need to fit in and not rock the boat.
Gwyn, Malky targeted a left sided winger and the player(s) that he was hopeful on bringing in (and still is come January) are in my opinion good enough to put Conway on the bench.
Conway is decent enough but his position is certainly an area where we need competition.
Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:45 am
Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:49 am
Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:10 am
BigGwynram wrote:If we bring in new players, then who do we leave out, we do have a fair bit of cover and I'm concerend that any new faces need to fit in and not rock the boat.
Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:28 am
castleblue wrote:I think you need to look beyond the starting 11 to the 16 match day squad and for me the player currently under risk of being left out is Earnie, I hate to say it but he really hasn't set the world alight. Out of the current match day squad you could also add Steve McPhail to that.
Right now the starting 11 picks itself with the 4-5-1 formation which MM has developed so for me the question is who moves off the bench to improve the options for MM. With everyone fit the bench would likely be Heaton, Gerrard, Mason and Gestede with the only position available being for a wide midfield player in my opinion. That would give MM the option of changing Conway or Cowie. Up front Mason and Gestede have so far proved better options than Earnie in my opinion and he will only get a role should Miller, Mason or Gestede get an injury.
With the amount of games we have we still need more cover in particular for Whiits, Gunnarson and Kiss as McPhail doesn't have the athletic nature of Gunnar and Kiss and certainly not the quality or goalscoring threat of Whitts.
The problem is that the players MM has brought into the club have won our hearts and minds because of their efforts and when he does bring players in they will have a lot to live up to.
Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:32 am
Lawnmower wrote:castleblue wrote:I think you need to look beyond the starting 11 to the 16 match day squad and for me the player currently under risk of being left out is Earnie, I hate to say it but he really hasn't set the world alight. Out of the current match day squad you could also add Steve McPhail to that.
Right now the starting 11 picks itself with the 4-5-1 formation which MM has developed so for me the question is who moves off the bench to improve the options for MM. With everyone fit the bench would likely be Heaton, Gerrard, Mason and Gestede with the only position available being for a wide midfield player in my opinion. That would give MM the option of changing Conway or Cowie. Up front Mason and Gestede have so far proved better options than Earnie in my opinion and he will only get a role should Miller, Mason or Gestede get an injury.
With the amount of games we have we still need more cover in particular for Whiits, Gunnarson and Kiss as McPhail doesn't have the athletic nature of Gunnar and Kiss and certainly not the quality or goalscoring threat of Whitts.
The problem is that the players MM has brought into the club have won our hearts and minds because of their efforts and when he does bring players in they will have a lot to live up to.
Several good posts on this.
Including this one.
The only thing I'd disagree with would be I'd have Blake on the bench to cover defensive midfield cenre half and both full backs.
In terms of our squad I'd also agree that Conway is decent enough, but we need competition for him, and cover. Maybe something different - a player with a bit of pace preferably- Kebe ?
Our need for a striker has diniminshed by ging 4-5-1 and the emergence of Gestede and mason. Although if a very good targetman became available then that would be handy.
Like you catsl I still think at 4-5-1 we are short of options in midfield when the inevitable suspensions and injuries start. The evidence was having to start Ralls - who is no mug, but its a big ask, and Blake -who IMHO is not a starting CM- already in several games earlier this season. Also we have nobody who can play Whitts role if/when he's out (isnt he on 3-4 bookings already), so a quality CM would be 2nd on my list. IMHO you can never have too many central mids and centre halfs as they are the ones who seem to pick up the most bookings and injuries.
So good point for Gwyn and anyone coming in will have to bide thier time, BUT we still seem very very threadbare in some positions so MUST strenghthen in Jan. I believe we will, in fact I have a hunch that at least 1 maybe to are already lined up, which is why Malky and co. are relaxed about not bringing anyone in during the loan window (com bined with the surprise emergence of Gestede, Ralls and Mason and pick up in performances when asked of others like Quinn, McPhail,Naylor and Blake.
Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:22 pm