Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:11 pm
Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:19 pm
Midfield general wrote:you watch Wales follow suit because they know how much can be earned from it.
Once again it will be another tax from WAG
Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:33 pm
Uccello Azzurro wrote:Midfield general wrote:you watch Wales follow suit because they know how much can be earned from it.
Once again it will be another tax from WAG
The UK has a problem with drinking which has been made even worse by the ready availability of cheap alcohol. Whilst there is a general UK-wide issue, Scotland has particularly severe drink-related problems to overcome. How would you address this? In the context of the problem, setting minimum prices doesn't look so silly.
Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:51 pm
PtB wrote:Uccello Azzurro wrote:Midfield general wrote:you watch Wales follow suit because they know how much can be earned from it.
Once again it will be another tax from WAG
The UK has a problem with drinking which has been made even worse by the ready availability of cheap alcohol. Whilst there is a general UK-wide issue, Scotland has particularly severe drink-related problems to overcome. How would you address this? In the context of the problem, setting minimum prices doesn't look so silly.
I don't believe we have anymore drink related problems up here than the rest of the UK does to be honest.
It's a silly idea and will do nothing to halt the drinking culture. People who want a drink will get a drink. If that means not paying a bill or whatever, then they will do it. The country is a mess financially, but people can always find money to have a little bevvy, that's a fact!
Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:53 pm
Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:37 pm
Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:50 pm
Midfield general wrote:Berwyn wrote:All LEFT WINGgovernments spend most of their time thinking up new ways of taxing us.
They then justify it by telling us it's for our own good. "We don't want to tax you but it will be good for: "you"/"the country"/"the environment" (delete as appropriate)" rubbish.
You missed a couple of words out
Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:08 pm
Midfield general wrote:Berwyn wrote:Midfield general wrote:Berwyn wrote:All LEFT WINGgovernments spend most of their time thinking up new ways of taxing us.
They then justify it by telling us it's for our own good. "We don't want to tax you but it will be good for: "you"/"the country"/"the environment" (delete as appropriate)" rubbish.
You missed a couple of words out
I think you'll find all flavours of politician do the same thing. Most of my life has been under tory governemnts with a tory labour pm inbetween so are you saying that during that time they have never raised taxes any anything that's "bad" for us?
During the 13 years were Labour has been in power the tax amount from each of us has shot up FACT.
Booze, fuel, fags, air tax, so-called green taxes, council tax have all shot up, need I go on..?
Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:17 pm
Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:27 pm
Midfield general wrote:Berwyn wrote:All LEFT WINGgovernments spend most of their time thinking up new ways of taxing us.
They then justify it by telling us it's for our own good. "We don't want to tax you but it will be good for: "you"/"the country"/"the environment" (delete as appropriate)" rubbish.
You missed a couple of words out
Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:42 pm
PtB wrote:Uccello Azzurro wrote:Midfield general wrote:you watch Wales follow suit because they know how much can be earned from it.
Once again it will be another tax from WAG
The UK has a problem with drinking which has been made even worse by the ready availability of cheap alcohol. Whilst there is a general UK-wide issue, Scotland has particularly severe drink-related problems to overcome. How would you address this? In the context of the problem, setting minimum prices doesn't look so silly.
I don't believe we have anymore drink related problems up here than the rest of the UK does to be honest.
It's a silly idea and will do nothing to halt the drinking culture. People who want a drink will get a drink. If that means not paying a bill or whatever, then they will do it. The country is a mess financially, but people can always find money to have a little bevvy, that's a fact!
Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:43 pm
Uccello Azzurro wrote:PtB wrote:Uccello Azzurro wrote:Midfield general wrote:you watch Wales follow suit because they know how much can be earned from it.
Once again it will be another tax from WAG
The UK has a problem with drinking which has been made even worse by the ready availability of cheap alcohol. Whilst there is a general UK-wide issue, Scotland has particularly severe drink-related problems to overcome. How would you address this? In the context of the problem, setting minimum prices doesn't look so silly.
I don't believe we have anymore drink related problems up here than the rest of the UK does to be honest.
It's a silly idea and will do nothing to halt the drinking culture. People who want a drink will get a drink. If that means not paying a bill or whatever, then they will do it. The country is a mess financially, but people can always find money to have a little bevvy, that's a fact!
I have lived in a number of countries in the EU over several years, and continue to do so. I had reason, or should I say the misfortune, to be in Cardiff city centre on Friday evening. Trust me, the UK (and Wales) has a major problem with drink. Going toe to toe with some drunk in Cardiff was not what I had in my mind when I agreed to drive into town and pick up my disabled father at around 10:15pm. The Police thought little of it. In Italy, the Carabinieri would have chucked the toe rag in the back of the van and given him a bloody good hiding. Some zero tolerance is long overdue. The time for carrots is over. Our reputation with the booze is a stain on our society. Clearly British people are either too blind or too drunk to care.
Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:04 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:Uccello Azzurro wrote:PtB wrote:Uccello Azzurro wrote:Midfield general wrote:you watch Wales follow suit because they know how much can be earned from it.
Once again it will be another tax from WAG
The UK has a problem with drinking which has been made even worse by the ready availability of cheap alcohol. Whilst there is a general UK-wide issue, Scotland has particularly severe drink-related problems to overcome. How would you address this? In the context of the problem, setting minimum prices doesn't look so silly.
I don't believe we have anymore drink related problems up here than the rest of the UK does to be honest.
It's a silly idea and will do nothing to halt the drinking culture. People who want a drink will get a drink. If that means not paying a bill or whatever, then they will do it. The country is a mess financially, but people can always find money to have a little bevvy, that's a fact!
I have lived in a number of countries in the EU over several years, and continue to do so. I had reason, or should I say the misfortune, to be in Cardiff city centre on Friday evening. Trust me, the UK (and Wales) has a major problem with drink. Going toe to toe with some drunk in Cardiff was not what I had in my mind when I agreed to drive into town and pick up my disabled father at around 10:15pm. The Police thought little of it. In Italy, the Carabinieri would have chucked the toe rag in the back of the van and given him a bloody good hiding. Some zero tolerance is long overdue. The time for carrots is over. Our reputation with the booze is a stain on our society. Clearly British people are either too blind or too drunk to care.
I know you ought to witness one of our Forum piss ups. And Blind Drunk even !!
Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:06 pm
Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:23 pm
bluecyw wrote:So how do you all feel about 10 and 12 yr olds ending up in casualty on a regular basis for being pissed up (what a drain on tax payers money) FACT
Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:46 am
Midfield general wrote:Uccello Azzurro wrote:Midfield general wrote:Berwyn wrote:All LEFT WINGgovernments spend most of their time thinking up new ways of taxing us.
They then justify it by telling us it's for our own good. "We don't want to tax you but it will be good for: "you"/"the country"/"the environment" (delete as appropriate)" rubbish.
You missed a couple of words out
The Fuel Price Escalator was introduced by the Conservative Government in 1993. This led to fuel prices rises at rates above inflation - initially 3% and later 5%. In 1993, the UK was one of the cheaper countries for fuel. By 2000, it was the most expensive country for fuel in the EU.
Sorry but didn't Blair come to power in 1997..? So you as you say by 2000 when I Labour government was in control for 3 years then it was the most expensive country for fuel in the EU
Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:30 am
Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:13 am