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Re: BELLEW

Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:11 pm

boxerbob wrote:Taffyapple,have you ever boxed?You seem very knowledgable on the sport of boxing :ayatollah:


I had 84 amateur bouts mate

Won 1
Drew 1
chickened out the rest!! :lol: :lol:


Yeh mate, i boxed a bit through school, only had 14 bouts in total cos i suffered trying
to get match-ups. That was in the days before headguards. No wonder my heads so
messed up :lol: I used to help coaching the kids in Maesgeirchen ABC Bangor.

Re: BELLEW

Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:27 pm

taffyapple wrote:
boxerbob wrote:Taffyapple,have you ever boxed?You seem very knowledgable on the sport of boxing :ayatollah:


I had 84 amateur bouts mate

Won 1
Drew 1
chickened out the rest!! :lol: :lol:


Yeh mate, i boxed a bit through school, only had 14 bouts in total cos i suffered trying
to get match-ups. That was in the days before headguards. No wonder my heads so
messed up :lol: I used to help coaching the kids in Maesgeirchen ABC Bangor.

:lol: :lol: i can remember boxing without headguards,i found it better myself(must be why i dribble so much)
I had 35 schoolboy fights,gave up for 5 years and had 5 senior fights.People always shouting for boxing to be banned but it kept me from trouble :ayatollah:

Re: BELLEW

Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:40 pm

boxerbob wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
boxerbob wrote:Taffyapple,have you ever boxed?You seem very knowledgable on the sport of boxing :ayatollah:


I had 84 amateur bouts mate

Won 1
Drew 1
chickened out the rest!! :lol: :lol:


Yeh mate, i boxed a bit through school, only had 14 bouts in total cos i suffered trying
to get match-ups. That was in the days before headguards. No wonder my heads so
messed up :lol: I used to help coaching the kids in Maesgeirchen ABC Bangor.

:lol: :lol: i can remember boxing without headguards,i found it better myself(must be why i dribble so much)
I had 35 schoolboy fights,gave up for 5 years and had 5 senior fights.People always shouting for boxing to be banned but it kept me from trouble :ayatollah:


I dont even think gumshields were obligatory back then. Are you sure
we're not both in our 60s? :lol:

Re: BELLEW

Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:42 pm

Bloody hell, theres me making a thread about wanting to stamp on bellews head and its now a two pager. :lol: keep it up. :D

Re: BELLEW

Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:49 pm

taffyapple wrote:
boxerbob wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
boxerbob wrote:Taffyapple,have you ever boxed?You seem very knowledgable on the sport of boxing :ayatollah:


I had 84 amateur bouts mate

Won 1
Drew 1
chickened out the rest!! :lol: :lol:


Yeh mate, i boxed a bit through school, only had 14 bouts in total cos i suffered trying
to get match-ups. That was in the days before headguards. No wonder my heads so
messed up :lol: I used to help coaching the kids in Maesgeirchen ABC Bangor.

:lol: :lol: i can remember boxing without headguards,i found it better myself(must be why i dribble so much)
I had 35 schoolboy fights,gave up for 5 years and had 5 senior fights.People always shouting for boxing to be banned but it kept me from trouble :ayatollah:


I dont even think gumshields were obligatory back then. Are you sure
we're not both in our 60s? :lol:

No gumshields,now your showing your age :lol:

Re: BELLEW

Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:59 pm

taffyapple wrote:
boxerbob wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
boxerbob wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
Scott88 wrote:If its your favourite sport i would of thought you would of realised winning the wbo at 24 is somthing special. He is still very young and will still get stronger. Fighters dont hit their prime till about 27. The only problem he has is he likes to get a bit cocky when he takes a pod punch but thats just part of his game, never did calazache any harm.


Im not trying to slag him off. and the WBO title IS something to be proud of.
But he does not have the one punch power to go all the way. His workrate is
nothing special and he is very 'hittable' He can take a punch, but when he
steps up a level i see him getting stopped. sadly.

Calzaghe was different, an ATG. He DID have a knockout punch, but once his
hands were fucked he upped his workrate so much that NOBODY in the world
could live with him. Calzaghe also had the toughest chin I've ever seen in
boxing and the biggest heart

Taffyapple,everything you said about calzaghe was spot on,except he was never known for his knockout punch.He was very accurate with his punching abilty.For someone with remarkable handspeed,he could hit the target at will


In his early career Calzaghe was known as a big puncher, up until he
fought Eubank, only one of 22 opponents had lasted the distance with
him, and there were some very early knockouts in there too, Eubank
said himself he'd never been hit harder. Calzaghe had to alter and
adapt his whole strategy cos his hands were fucked, which makes him
even more remarkable. The USA boxing media and fraternity love him,
but the USA boxing public hate him for beating up Jones and putting
old 'racist bernard' in his place :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Im sure he had problems with his hands even when he was a youngster.I boxed the night he had his last amateur fight,he had an exhibition against a boy from my gym.You could tell even then he was going to make a living for himself out of boxing.He was very quiet back them days :ayatollah:


He somehow figured how to punch at less than full power for ten years.
Getting between those ropes is scary enough at any level. But to do it
against the Worlds best boxers knowing your short a few tools AND
making them look ordinary is in my eyes one of the greatest feats in Modern boxing.
The American Boxing public are ignorant bitter racists and they will never
forgive him for being a 'Brit', being 'white' and smashing their two bad
boy 'niggas from da hood' in Lacy and Hopkins... thats a fact!

Thank God Manny Steward said Calzaghe was one of the best he's ever seen!! :ayatollah:



Youre Forgetting Byron Mitchell... Gary Shaw said before the Calzaghe fight "Its an easy title for Byron to claim, He will have to much power for Joe".
You wouldve thought some people learn from their mistakes as Shaw said it again almost word for word when he bought Left Hook Lacey over.

As for JC's power , look at his early record he kept knocking people out and floored Eubank in the first but struggled to knock him out but Benn Watson Collins Thompson and sugarboy all had similar problem.

Re: BELLEW

Sun Oct 16, 2011 4:06 pm

Excellent scrap,lot of respect for Bellew after that

Re: BELLEW

Sun Oct 16, 2011 5:35 pm

aj1927 wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
boxerbob wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
boxerbob wrote:
taffyapple wrote:If its your favourite sport i would of thought you would of realised winning the wbo at 24 is somthing special. He is still very young and will still get stronger. Fighters dont hit their prime till about 27. The only problem he has is he likes to get a bit cocky when he takes a pod punch but thats just part of his game, never did calazache any harm.


Im not trying to slag him off. and the WBO title IS something to be proud of.
But he does not have the one punch power to go all the way. His workrate is
nothing special and he is very 'hittable' He can take a punch, but when he
steps up a level i see him getting stopped. sadly.

Calzaghe was different, an ATG. He DID have a knockout punch, but once his
hands were fucked he upped his workrate so much that NOBODY in the world
could live with him. Calzaghe also had the toughest chin I've ever seen in
boxing and the biggest heart

Taffyapple,everything you said about calzaghe was spot on,except he was never known for his knockout punch.He was very accurate with his punching abilty.For someone with remarkable handspeed,he could hit the target at will


In his early career Calzaghe was known as a big puncher, up until he
fought Eubank, only one of 22 opponents had lasted the distance with
him, and there were some very early knockouts in there too, Eubank
said himself he'd never been hit harder. Calzaghe had to alter and
adapt his whole strategy cos his hands were fucked, which makes him
even more remarkable. The USA boxing media and fraternity love him,
but the USA boxing public hate him for beating up Jones and putting
old 'racist bernard' in his place :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Im sure he had problems with his hands even when he was a youngster.I boxed the night he had his last amateur fight,he had an exhibition against a boy from my gym.You could tell even then he was going to make a living for himself out of boxing.He was very quiet back them days :ayatollah:


He somehow figured how to punch at less than full power for ten years.
Getting between those ropes is scary enough at any level. But to do it
against the Worlds best boxers knowing your short a few tools AND
making them look ordinary is in my eyes one of the greatest feats in Modern boxing.
The American Boxing public are ignorant bitter racists and they will never
forgive him for being a 'Brit', being 'white' and smashing their two bad
boy 'niggas from da hood' in Lacy and Hopkins... thats a fact!

Thank God Manny Steward said Calzaghe was one of the best he's ever seen!! :ayatollah:



Youre Forgetting Byron Mitchell... Gary Shaw said before the Calzaghe fight "Its an easy title for Byron to claim, He will have to much power for Joe".
You wouldve thought some people learn from their mistakes as Shaw said it again almost word for word when he bought Left Hook Lacey over.

As for JC's power , look at his early record he kept knocking people out and floored Eubank in the first but struggled to knock him out but Benn Watson Collins Thompson and sugarboy all had similar problem.[/quote]

Yeh cheers for repeating my earlier post :lol: :lol: :lol: :ayatollah: