Forums leaking information

I attended Malky's tour at Rhydyfelin and could not argue with the sentiments raised by the panel in relation to messageboards. However, the reason that speculation is often generated is fuelled by the fans need for information. Quite often we know that things are happening within the club and yet the club does not release the information in a timely manner. An example of this is how many times have you seen a story on Sky Sports News about Cardiff and logged into the City website and the information is not there only to find the headline appearing a day or two later.

I do not condone made up stories on messageboards or information that will harm our club but I think that the club has an equal responsibility to help prevent speculation by releasing information in a more timely manner.I appreciate there will be times when the club feel the need to withhold information but it is often the case that this information has already been released in the media yet the club still choose to keep the fans in the dark.
Does anyone else share these sentiments?

I attended Malky's tour at Rhydyfelin and could not argue with the sentiments raised by the panel in relation to messageboards. However, the reason that speculation is often generated is fuelled by the fans need for information. Quite often we know that things are happening within the club and yet the club does not release the information in a timely manner. An example of this is how many times have you seen a story on Sky Sports News about Cardiff and logged into the City website and the information is not there only to find the headline appearing a day or two later.

I do not condone made up stories on messageboards or information that will harm our club but I think that the club has an equal responsibility to help prevent speculation by releasing information in a more timely manner.I appreciate there will be times when the club feel the need to withhold information but it is often the case that this information has already been released in the media yet the club still choose to keep the fans in the dark.
Does anyone else share these sentiments?

I do agree to a point but I also think that the information that comes up on this MB is usually what the club doesn't mind getting out in the public domain. I can guarantee that for every one of Carl's updates there is at least another bit of info we won't be getting. I enjoy reading Carl's updates but, if the club don't want something leaked, it won't be, unless it's very serious and a 'whistleblower' makes sure it gets out.

I think though, what you've got to remember is that this MB is just like blokes talking down the pub. It's just fans discussing what's going on at their football club. I'm not sure why the club would want to avoid speculation as it happens all over our catchment area, it's just that, on here, it's more public. I don't think we should get carried away with an over-inflated sense of our own importance

i totally agree, Carl is often villified for releasing info but then abused for not being the first to let us know about other info.
if the club had a better relationship with the media and the official site updated quicker then there would be no leaks on messageboards.

we all want to know what is happening at the club, whether Carl, The Echo or Sky Sports tells us is irrelevant.

i have to be honest, i blame the club.

the information comes from the club or certain people within the club and then gets fed to people out here. if you got told information or gossip, aslong as it wasnt sensative like a certain recent situation, we would all be on here spereading the news because thats what fans do, we care for the club, we have the same interests in common and thats how we all bond.

Gossip is a massive part of football and can never be prevented. as long as what is being passed round is nothing sensative or personal then we should accept it like any other fact for life.

I attended Malky's tour at Rhydyfelin and could not argue with the sentiments raised by the panel in relation to messageboards. However, the reason that speculation is often generated is fuelled by the fans need for information. Quite often we know that things are happening within the club and yet the club does not release the information in a timely manner. An example of this is how many times have you seen a story on Sky Sports News about Cardiff and logged into the City website and the information is not there only to find the headline appearing a day or two later.

I do not condone made up stories on messageboards or information that will harm our club but I think that the club has an equal responsibility to help prevent speculation by releasing information in a more timely manner.I appreciate there will be times when the club feel the need to withhold information but it is often the case that this information has already been released in the media yet the club still choose to keep the fans in the dark.
Does anyone else share these sentiments?

I do agree to a point but I also think that the information that comes up on this MB is usually what the club doesn't mind getting out in the public domain. I can guarantee that for every one of Carl's updates there is at least another bit of info we won't be getting. I enjoy reading Carl's updates but, if the club don't want something leaked, it won't be, unless it's very serious and a 'whistleblower' makes sure it gets out.

I think though, what you've got to remember is that this MB is just like blokes talking down the pub. It's just fans discussing what's going on at their football club. I'm not sure why the club would want to avoid speculation as it happens all over our catchment area, it's just that, on here, it's more public. I don't think we should get carried away with an over-inflated sense of our own importance

I agree with most of what you say but I don't think that we are getting carried away with an over - inflated sense of our own importance. I think we as fans are important and are the lifeblood of the club.

Ridsdale used to tell blatant lies to the media and us the fans ....... nothing was said about him at the time ???? Surely Ridsdale painting a rosy picture when on the inside CCFC were financially melting has to be far more damaging than anything said on here ...... so what if Chopra is half pissed and losing all his money in a casino , he can be replaced ( and indeed he was ) , so what if Craig Bellamy's brother's friends aunties dogs babysitter says he's moving to Swansea for a free transfer to play in goals for them ....... Ridsdale ( cue the Sam haters to respond now ) was the most damaging person ever in the history of CCFC and not once did he use a message board or the internet !!!!! Thank f**k this message board found out about the debt and the LIES and told us all about the unpaid tax bills etc etc

I agree with most of what you say but I don't think that we are getting carried away with an over - inflated sense of our own importance. I think we as fans are important and are the lifeblood of the club.

Absolutely, but there are people on here who think that we have more influence in certain matters than we do. I remember the march against Ridsdale which was instigated on here. This was a great initiative and I am proud of the small part I played in helping this come about, not just by joining the march but in other behind the scenes ways too. Like I said, there are people on here who don't seem to realise that we are just a tiny cross section of the support there is for CCFC

I agree with most of what you say but I don't think that we are getting carried away with an over - inflated sense of our own importance. I think we as fans are important and are the lifeblood of the club.

Absolutely, but there are people on here who think that we have more influence in certain matters than we do. I remember the march against Ridsdale which was instigated on here. This was a great initiative and I am proud of the small part I played in helping this come about, not just by joining the march but in other behind the scenes ways too. Like I said, there are people on here who don't seem to realise that we are just a tiny cross section of the support there is for CCFC

I don't think we are just a tiny cross section of the support for CCFC anymore. This board has over 5,000 members and I assume the other board has similar if not more numbers then there is the official City board as well. I think that between all the messageboards we must represent the majority of fans so I don't think we can be described as a tiny cross section. I do agree with your other points though.

if you knew something that many fans do not know about...you want to share it on here.
i don;t see why carl is targeted by some idiots which are clearly all from ccmb.
if someone HAS to be blamed it would have to be the club.

Media relations within the club are of a conference club. As you say a club of our stature with a thirst to know what's going on need more than a little update once a week... If that. I hope this is something they are going to put right this coming season! Otherwise Carl is gonna keep being put under pressure to deliver info and the sniping will continue, it's sad that one man is feeding thousands of supporters with information that the club should be...I dont mean signings either.

Couldnt agree more - the PR dept @ CCS is a farkin shambles . Its high time the powers that be sorted that out . To Carl & co I say thanks , well dun and keep the info channels open !

Let me give you an example when the lack of information from the club leads to speculation.
At the Rhydyfelin event on Wednesday, Malky was asked by a member of the audience "what is the the Craig Bellamy situation". Malky's stock responce was "He is a Man City player and it would be wrong of me to discusss a player from another club".
Although no one can blame Malky for not wanting to talk about another clubs player which is commendable, it still leaves us with no information at all.
At this point you would have thought that Gethin would have then told us a little of what is going on which would be something like: Yes Craig is a Man City player however we are still holding talks with him and Man City and if it is possible we will try and secure Craig but we cannot guarantee anything or that we are not pursuing Craig any further.
Even a little information would have been useful but all we were left with was no information at all.
As soon as someone then gets wind that the club has contacted Craig or Man City then they will post the info on a messageboard to keep the fans informed. I just think that if the club were a little bit more forthcoming with their information then it can only help stem the very rumours and speculation they claim is damaging the club.

I want the leaks and updates to stop, no matter how you look at them they are damaging to the club and like we saw with McPhail, they are damaging to the players too. We were all fine before the updates we can be fine without them once more.

I want the leaks and updates to stop, no matter how you look at them they are damaging to the club and like we saw with McPhail, they are damaging to the players too. We were all fine before the updates we can be fine without them once more.

I don't think that the updates do harm the club. I enjoy reading Carls updates and I thought I read that Carl runs them past the club before putting them out so if the club thought the update was harmful then they would obviously let Carl Know beforehand.What does sometimes cause harm and creates some of the speculation is the lack of official information from the club provided to the fans in a timely manner.

I don't think we are just a tiny cross section of the support for CCFC anymore. This board has over 5,000 members and I assume the other board has similar if not more numbers then there is the official City board as well. I think that between all the messageboards we must represent the majority of fans so I don't think we can be described as a tiny cross section. I do agree with your other points though.[/quote]

Aye but 4,900 of the members on the other board are that idiot Baker

I imagine its a full time job for Mike and his mods to keep up with all his alias'

I don't think we are just a tiny cross section of the support for CCFC anymore. This board has over 5,000 members and I assume the other board has similar if not more numbers then there is the official City board as well. I think that between all the messageboards we must represent the majority of fans so I don't think we can be described as a tiny cross section. I do agree with your other points though.

Aye but 4,900 of the members on the other board are that idiot Baker

I imagine its a full time job for Mike and his mods to keep up with all his alias'[/quote]

I didn't consider that

Jenkins and his merry men should get their fooking house in order then !! more sources within CCS than anywhere i know !

I agree with most of what you say but I don't think that we are getting carried away with an over - inflated sense of our own importance. I think we as fans are important and are the lifeblood of the club.

Absolutely, but there are people on here who think that we have more influence in certain matters than we do. I remember the march against Ridsdale which was instigated on here. This was a great initiative and I am proud of the small part I played in helping this come about, not just by joining the march but in other behind the scenes ways too. Like I said, there are people on here who don't seem to realise that we are just a tiny cross section of the support there is for CCFC

I don't think we are just a tiny cross section of the support for CCFC anymore. This board has over 5,000 members and I assume the other board has similar if not more numbers then there is the official City board as well. I think that between all the messageboards we must represent the majority of fans so I don't think we can be described as a tiny cross section. I do agree with your other points though.

Seems to me a lot of the members of this (and other) Boards are from other clubs looking for a good night out! Swans, Hammers, Owls.... all the waifs and strays of the Football League on here! Probably the same with other CCFC Boards.