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Family tree.......found anyone famous (or infamous)??

Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:08 am

I haven't.................

I know one strand of my family got to Barry via France, Jersey and Kent though!!
Seems to be a lot of dead ends and orphans in my family tree .

Re: Family tree.......found anyone famous (or infamous)??

Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:13 am

Captain Morgan - Rogue Buccaneer and sponsor of the Bobbank roof. Great, great .....uncle

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Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:14 am

Where is my mind? wrote:I haven't.................

I know one strand of my family got to Barry via France, Jersey and Kent though!!
Seems to be a lot of dead ends and orphans in my family tree .



My great grandparents were from Wales, Scotland, Ireland and England. I'm not bothering with delving into all the history at the moment, but I think it would probably be very difficult to go far back, given that they were all poor. It's usually easier to trace back when there was some money in the family along the way - or that's my impression, anyway.

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Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:24 am

Apparently I'm related to Bryan Robson - I think our great-grandmothers were cousins, or some such tenuous link. Can't say I'm too excited about that......

Re: Family tree.......found anyone famous (or infamous)??

Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:40 am

My Grandads brother Ivor Powell has MBE, is in the Guinness Book of Records and Welsh Hall of Fame for services to football.

I don't know how to do links so I have copied and pasted from Wikipedia.


Ivor Verdun Powell MBE (born 5 July 1916) is a Welsh former footballer who gained eight Welsh caps and later became a manager. He was born in Gilfach, Bargoed.

He was inducted to the Welsh Sports Hall of Fame in 2004 alongside snooker player Terry Griffiths and cricketer Tony Lewis. He also entered the Guinness Book of World Records as the oldest working football coach on his 90th birthday after 55 years as a coach. He retired on 26 May 2010, aged 93.

Playing careerClub careerPowell started his working life down the mines, alongside his father and six brothers. His playing career began with South Wales League side Bargoed Thursdays. In August 1936 he was invited to London to have a trial with Queens Park Rangers. This was unsuccessful but Ivor stayed in London and got a job. He started playing for the reserve team of Barnet and in May 1937 played in a friendly game v QPR. Ivor was the outstanding player in the game, which Barnet won 8-1, and this time Queens Park Rangers took real interest. Joining QPR on professional terms in September 1937, he made 110 league appearances for Rangers. This total would have been much higher if it were not for the interruption of World War II. During the war he guested for Bradford City and Blackpool whilst working as an RAF physical trainer. It was at Blackpool that he struck up a friendship with Stanley Matthews, who later became Ivor's best man at his wedding to Joan Browell in 1943.[1]

On 15 December 1948 the tough tackler commanded a £17,500 transfer fee. This was a record for a half back and for both the buying and selling clubs when he moved to Aston Villa.[1] He made another 79 games for Villa before he became a player-manager at Port Vale in July 1951.

International careerPowell also made eight international caps for Wales[2] and was also a war-time international. In one game he was replaced by Englishman Stan Mortensen in a game between England and Wales when his injury left the Welsh side without an available substitute.

Management careerAt Port Vale as player-manager he played just the six times, restricted on the field by a knee injury. As a manager he tried to 'rule by fear' and was not well liked by the players, with the club bottom of the Third Division South, his contract was terminated in November 1951.[3] Roy Sproson later said that "everything seemed to go wrong for him at Vale" and that "he used to treat players like kids".[4]

He moved to Barry Town before being appointed the new Bradford City manager, again as player-manager, before the start of the 1952–53 season.

His first season at Valley Parade was disappointing as they slipped to 16th in Third Division North. The following season they came fifth but were 16 points shy of the promotion places. During that season he missed the first penalty of his career in a home fixture with Workington.[5]

The following season he was carried off with knee ligament damage against Wrexham.[5] The injury ended his playing career. City's form also struggled and Powell left in February 1955 after a run of seven straight defeats and just two wins from 19 games without his presence on the field. City were forced to apply for re-election at the end of the campaign.

Coaching careerPowell became a trainer-coach at Don Revie's Leeds United - (he also had a coaching spell at PAOK in Greece) - before he returned to management with Carlisle United in May 1960, succeeding Andy Beattie. He led the Cumbrians to their first promotion when they finished fourth in Division Four in 1961–62. He left the following season, with the club struggling in the league and were knocked out of the FA Cup by Southern League side Gravesend & Northfleet.[5] He became manager of Bath City in 1964 and then a member of the coaching staff at Team Bath (University of Bath) where he worked for over 30 years. At the age of 93, Powell announced his retirement as the "world's oldest football coach" in May 2010.[6][7]

LegacyHe was inducted to the Welsh Sports Hall of Fame in 2004.[8] In 2006 while assistant coach for Team Bath at the University of Bath he celebrated his 90th birthday and entered the Guinness Book of World Records as the oldest working football coach.[9] He later became the club President.[10] He has completed 53 years as an FA accredited coach.

He was appointed a Member of the Order of the British Empire (MBE) in the 2008 New Year Honours for his services to sport and was presented with his award by the Queen on 25 June 2008, a few days short of his 92nd birthday.[11] He described receiving the award as "an honour and a privilege."[12]

Re: Family tree.......found anyone famous (or infamous)??

Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:42 am

I'm related to Ex Ipswich, Newcastle & Celtic striker Alex Mathie on my dad's side of the family. Never met him or spoke to him though - even though I wanted tickets for Morton v Clydebank when he was down at Greenock. c**t.

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Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:48 am

Victim of Jack The Ripper.

Nor a direct defendant but back a few generations and across to a cousin. Best I could do, the rest just followed the money. Farms to Bristol docks, to Cardiff docks.

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Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:28 am

King Christopher of Bavaria, He was King of Denmark for a while. It's going back a few generations mind!!

Re: Family tree.......found anyone famous (or infamous)??

Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:42 am

Bert Millichip (He was elected chairman of the English FA 1981)

Sir Frederick Albert Millichip (5 August 1914 - 18 December 2002) was an English association footballer best known for his sometimes controversial contributions to the administration of the game.

Raised in the West Midlands and educated at Solihull School in Solihull, Millichip played for the third team of West Bromwich Albion in the years before World War II. During the war, he served in North Africa, Canada, Sicily and Italy, rising from an enlisted man to the rank of captain.

On demobilisation in 1945, he returned to his solicitor's practice and became a director of West Bromwich Albion. He took on the role of chairman in 1974 when the club was failing to make progress in the Second Division under manager Don Howe. Under Millichip's chairmanship, the club re-established itself in the First Division and recruited talented and energetic manager Ron Atkinson, building a team that was among the most exciting in English football circa 1980. It was during this time that West Bromwich Albion were the first club to field simultaneously three black players. The young talented three, Brendon Batson, Laurie Cunningham and Cyrille Regis, made a huge impression and became known as the Three Degrees, in comparison to the vocal trio of the same name.

In 1981, Millichip was elected chairman of The Football Association at the start of a period during which the English game was to be rocked by a succession of crises including the Heysel Stadium disaster, the Hillsborough disaster, growing problems of hooliganism, the national team's repeated international failure and the founding of the Premier League. His vacillation over the appointment of Terry Venables as manager of the national team, when the latter was under investigation and criticism for his business dealings, led journalist Brian Glanville to dub him Bert the inert.

He retired from the FA in 1996 but maintained an active interest. In 1950 he married Joan Brown. They had a son and a daughter. His son, Peter Millichip, who also followed his father into law, was also an ardent fan of West Bromwich Albion. He was a close friend of Sir Bobby Robson, and as Sir Bobby entered his final years, they worked together to establish the Sir Bobby Robson Football Academy, in Birmingham.

Re: Family tree.......found anyone famous (or infamous)??

Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:42 am

Don't want to be claiming this too much but my family are related to George Bush something like 5th cousin twice removed on my mothers side. :shock: :shock:

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Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:43 pm

my fathers father was a member of the IRA in southern ireland during the years when they gained independence from british rule! .... its funny cause after all that fighting he moved to england in the 30s! ... he met my nan in england and then they moved to wales. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Republican_Army i wonder if he`s in this photo! .... one of cardiffs greatest ever goalkeepers was a member of the IRA during them days too, 1927 cup final winner farquarhson.

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Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:47 pm

PtB wrote:I'm related to Ex Ipswich, Newcastle & Celtic striker Alex Mathie on my dad's side of the family. Never met him or spoke to him though - even though I wanted tickets for Morton v Clydebank when he was down at Greenock. c**t.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Family tree.......found anyone famous (or infamous)??

Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:31 pm

Forestbluebirds wrote:Captain Morgan - Rogue Buccaneer and sponsor of the Bobbank roof. Great, great .....uncle


Yes we have traced our line back to his brother as well, Henry Morgan didn't have any kids, but all the family's descendants have life long permission to grace their sheep or cattle on flat Holme island, this was bequeathed by the Queen and if you look at the history of Flatholme you will see the link with the Morgan family.

This means you and me can graze our flocks on there, wast if I choose Mondays ;)

Re: Family tree.......found anyone famous (or infamous)??

Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:34 pm

Yes. Apparently im related to Ryan Giggs. I hope he hasn't slept with my missus. :o

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Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:34 pm

ive got the best one ;) tapscott was my nans cousin. thats what ive always been told :ayatollah:

Re: Family tree.......found anyone famous (or infamous)??

Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:08 pm

AHERNE wrote:my fathers father was a member of the IRA in southern ireland during the years when they gained independence from british rule! .... its funny cause after all that fighting he moved to england in the 30s! ... he met my nan in england and then they moved to wales. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Republican_Army i wonder if he`s in this photo! .... one of cardiffs greatest ever goalkeepers was a member of the IRA during them days too, 1927 cup final winner farquarhson.


Have you an uncle Berty?

Re: Family tree.......found anyone famous (or infamous)??

Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:15 pm

Johnny Rythmn wrote:
AHERNE wrote:my fathers father was a member of the IRA in southern ireland during the years when they gained independence from british rule! .... its funny cause after all that fighting he moved to england in the 30s! ... he met my nan in england and then they moved to wales. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Republican_Army i wonder if he`s in this photo! .... one of cardiffs greatest ever goalkeepers was a member of the IRA during them days too, 1927 cup final winner farquarhson.


Have you an uncle Berty?

my fathers brother was called bert! honest to god! :lol: there is a story that my grandfather added the e on to the end of our surname when he left ireland so who knows, maybe i am related to bertie ahern somewhere along the line!

Re: Family tree.......found anyone famous (or infamous)??

Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:29 pm

AHERNE wrote:
Johnny Rythmn wrote:
AHERNE wrote:my fathers father was a member of the IRA in southern ireland during the years when they gained independence from british rule! .... its funny cause after all that fighting he moved to england in the 30s! ... he met my nan in england and then they moved to wales. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Republican_Army i wonder if he`s in this photo! .... one of cardiffs greatest ever goalkeepers was a member of the IRA during them days too, 1927 cup final winner farquarhson.


Have you an uncle Berty?

my fathers brother was called bert! honest to god! :lol: there is a story that my grandfather added the e on to the end of our surname when he left ireland so who knows, maybe i am related to bertie ahern somewhere along the line!


I'll never believe a word you say then. :D :ayatollah:

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Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:35 pm

My cousins dad is that Paul Henderson who used to play in goals for Leicester but ive never met either of them in person and prob never will :)

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Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:59 pm

Cary Grant is somewhere in the wife's family tree - me I've got a 1 legged prostitute and a load of miners

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Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:00 pm

technically, in a non religious but scientific way, we're all related to eachother

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Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:14 pm

Bridgend_bluebird wrote:technically, in a non religious but scientific way, we're all related to eachother

sounds like your on the wrong forum mate :lol: :ayatollah:

Re: Family tree.......found anyone famous (or infamous)??

Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:14 pm

i went back a few generations and found a horse that had a name :ayatollah:

Re: Family tree.......found anyone famous (or infamous)??

Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:14 pm

Bridgend_bluebird wrote:technically, in a non religious but scientific way, we're all related to eachother

sounds like your on the wrong forum mate :lol: :ayatollah:

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Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:15 pm

bluebird7291 wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:technically, in a non religious but scientific way, we're all related to eachother

sounds like your on the wrong forum mate :lol: :ayatollah:


just general knowledge :D

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Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:20 pm

i no mate but your talking going back a few thousand years :ayatollah: may take a while to find out where we are all related. unless you come from few miles down the road take you ten mins :lol: :ayatollah:

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Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:23 pm

bluebird7291 wrote:i no mate but your talking going back a few thousand years :ayatollah: may take a while to find out where we are all related. unless you come from few miles down the road take you ten mins :lol: :ayatollah:


not what i meant but never mind :ayatollah:

Re: Family tree.......found anyone famous (or infamous)??

Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:26 pm

Bridgend_bluebird wrote:
bluebird7291 wrote:i no mate but your talking going back a few thousand years :ayatollah: may take a while to find out where we are all related. unless you come from few miles down the road take you ten mins :lol: :ayatollah:


not what i meant but never mind :ayatollah:

i know what you ment tried making little joke but tbh i messed it up a little bit :lol:

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Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:27 pm

bluebird7291 wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:
bluebird7291 wrote:i no mate but your talking going back a few thousand years :ayatollah: may take a while to find out where we are all related. unless you come from few miles down the road take you ten mins :lol: :ayatollah:


not what i meant but never mind :ayatollah:

i know what you ment tried making little joke but tbh i messed it up a little bit :lol:

:lol: :ayatollah:

Re: Family tree.......found anyone famous (or infamous)??

Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:04 pm

Allan Lewis who use to play for city in 91 is my mams cousin :ayatollah: