Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:54 pm
Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:02 pm
Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:09 pm
Bloobirds101 wrote:good news if we get him. I watched the scottish cup final and was impressed by his work rate. Always thought he'd go to Rangers because they've been after him for months. I agree with some of them, if we get him for £2m then thats a steal.
Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:11 pm
GarethGardner wrote:Looks like a bargain if we get him. Heres a few of their thoughts -
http://www.eastfootball.co.uk/forum/sho ... hp?t=33647
Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:12 pm
Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:15 pm
2blue2handle wrote:Highly rated but then so was Boyd. He is young and seems enthusiast though... In malky I trust.
Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:19 pm
goodie wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Highly rated but then so was Boyd. He is young and seems enthusiast though... In malky I trust.
He is a completely different player to Boyd.
Boyd is a poaching lazy bugger who only scored so many goals at Rangers because he played in a team who probably created the most amount of chances per season.
Goodie is better technically than Boyd and will go on to be 5 times the player.
Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:32 pm
Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:goodie wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Highly rated but then so was Boyd. He is young and seems enthusiast though... In malky I trust.
He is a completely different player to Boyd.
Boyd is a poaching lazy bugger who only scored so many goals at Rangers because he played in a team who probably created the most amount of chances per season.
Goodie is better technically than Boyd and will go on to be 5 times the player.
Agree. Once Boyd moved down to Boro I think everybody kind of guessed he would struggle
Welcome though Cheers for your thoughts on the guy ! I haven't really followed his off the field antics, so what exactly has he done ?
Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:59 pm
Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:02 pm
AC- wrote:Completely different type of player to Boyd and quite a few years younger as well. Boyd is a poacher, he'll score goals if you give him service. Middlesbrough didn't, Nottingham Forest did. He's always been a pretty shite footballer at SPL level.
I'd say a more accurate comparison is with Steven Fletcher who has scored a decent amount of goals in the English Premier League since moving from Hibs (10 goals last season despite being 2nd choice behind Doyle and 8 the season before despite being used on the wing quite a few times). Fletcher didn't score half as many as Boyd in the SPL. The difference is that Fletcher is a good footballer and had the ability to make the step up. Funny how Boyd is always mentioned when the subject of Scottish strikers comes up but not Fletcher or even McCormack who had a brilliant first season for Cardiff without scoring that many for Motherwell.
IMO Goodwillie is a better player than all of those I've mentioned above. Don't forget that, as well as scoring 17 league goals, he also had 10 league assists - the best in the SPL. He's young, skilful, and composed in front of goal. If Fletcher can make the step up to being a 10-15 goalscorer in the EPL then Goodwillie certainly can. He has the potential to star in the championship and be an EPL standard player. If he doesn't it will be more down to attitude rather than ability.
Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:10 pm
Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:31 pm
bon jovi wrote:Better than Chopra - more guts than Bothroyd - bring him on
Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:58 pm
Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:02 pm
Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:15 pm
AC- wrote:Completely different type of player to Boyd and quite a few years younger as well. Boyd is a poacher, he'll score goals if you give him service. Middlesbrough didn't, Nottingham Forest did. He's always been a pretty shite footballer at SPL level.
I'd say a more accurate comparison is with Steven Fletcher who has scored a decent amount of goals in the English Premier League since moving from Hibs (10 goals last season despite being 2nd choice behind Doyle and 8 the season before despite being used on the wing quite a few times). Fletcher didn't score half as many as Boyd in the SPL. The difference is that Fletcher is a good footballer and had the ability to make the step up. Funny how Boyd is always mentioned when the subject of Scottish strikers comes up but not Fletcher or even McCormack who had a brilliant first season for Cardiff without scoring that many for Motherwell.
IMO Goodwillie is a better player than all of those I've mentioned above. Don't forget that, as well as scoring 17 league goals, he also had 10 league assists - the best in the SPL. He's young, skilful, and composed in front of goal. If Fletcher can make the step up to being a 10-15 goalscorer in the EPL then Goodwillie certainly can. He has the potential to star in the championship and be an EPL standard player. If he doesn't it will be more down to attitude rather than ability.
Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:20 pm
zippy wrote:In my previous post I spoke about how good I think Craig Conway is and the potential he has.
However, if there is one lad in the SPL that you would want, it is David Goodwillie. United fans are resigned to losing him this summer. We'd be delighted if this was to an EPL team as the majority of us think that is the level of his talent. However, we'd be very happy to see him go to Cardiff as the last thing we'd want is to see him end up at Celtic or Rangers where he could harm us and potentially stunt his development.
I have not been this excited about a Dundee United prospect since Duncan Ferguson (coincidently, they played at the same boys club).
David Goddwillie has the pace, power, eye for goal and most importantly complete confidence (perhaps arrogance) you need from a top centre forward.
The above comparisons are wide of the mark in my opinion. He is as close as you'll get to Craig Bellamy anywhere in the UK.
If he signs for Cardiff I can see him having a long legendary career in Wales. Master stroke signing him and Conway as they know each others game inside out. If only Goodwillie had the same mentality as Conway. As I say... head screwed on like Bellamy.
Zippy
Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:44 pm
Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:50 pm
CardiffCity_DundeeUtd wrote:Alright lads, hope you take Goodie cos don't want him at Rangers playing against us and them selling him on for a huge profit. Since you signed Craig Conway (LEGEND) would love you to take Goodie too and then with two of our legends playing together again it will be very exciting for us United fans to see. I will be very interested in cardiff city next season .
Anyway the money quoted (£2m) is a fraction of his value, seriously. He is too good for rangers or celtic, they would only sell him on and make cash . He needs to get away from Scotland and make a fresh start , glasgow would be the worst possible move for him . Would love goodwillie to stay for our europa game though , its going to be a tough game to win without .
Anyway im excited for this new season not only for my club , but for my new welsh team . Already got my eye on the shirt with conway's name on the back ! Is there any chance of a tangerine away shirt any time soon????
Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:06 pm
CardiffCity_DundeeUtd wrote:Alright lads, hope you take Goodie cos don't want him at Rangers playing against us and them selling him on for a huge profit. Since you signed Craig Conway (LEGEND) would love you to take Goodie too and then with two of our legends playing together again it will be very exciting for us United fans to see. I will be very interested in cardiff city next season .
Anyway the money quoted (£2m) is a fraction of his value, seriously. He is too good for rangers or celtic, they would only sell him on and make cash . He needs to get away from Scotland and make a fresh start , glasgow would be the worst possible move for him . Would love goodwillie to stay for our europa game though , its going to be a tough game to win without .
Anyway im excited for this new season not only for my club , but for my new welsh team . Already got my eye on the shirt with conway's name on the back ! Is there any chance of a tangerine away shirt any time soon????
Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:46 pm
taffyapple wrote:CardiffCity_DundeeUtd wrote:Alright lads, hope you take Goodie cos don't want him at Rangers playing against us and them selling him on for a huge profit. Since you signed Craig Conway (LEGEND) would love you to take Goodie too and then with two of our legends playing together again it will be very exciting for us United fans to see. I will be very interested in cardiff city next season .
Anyway the money quoted (£2m) is a fraction of his value, seriously. He is too good for rangers or celtic, they would only sell him on and make cash . He needs to get away from Scotland and make a fresh start , glasgow would be the worst possible move for him . Would love goodwillie to stay for our europa game though , its going to be a tough game to win without .
Anyway im excited for this new season not only for my club , but for my new welsh team . Already got my eye on the shirt with conway's name on the back ! Is there any chance of a tangerine away shirt any time soon????
Mate, we signed Bellamy last year but we still werent as excited as we are for this season!
Reason being, Dave Jones had a vast array of talent at his disposal but could not get them
to play together.
Mackay is like a breath of fresh air, his training methods, attitude towards diet, discipline
and his philosophy of pressing hard when you dont have the ball... and hit hard and fast
when you do is modern, and the way forward.
Conway is a great start, i'm wondering whether Malky has already spoken to 'the goody'
What i cant figure out though is this rape thing? its very very serious, yet he still got all
those awards, and was still picked for Scotland... are we missing something here???
GOODYYYYYYY - GOODY GOODY YUMMM YUMMMMM!!!
Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:56 pm
Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:01 pm
tenerife_blu wrote:taffyapple wrote:CardiffCity_DundeeUtd wrote:Alright lads, hope you take Goodie cos don't want him at Rangers playing against us and them selling him on for a huge profit. Since you signed Craig Conway (LEGEND) would love you to take Goodie too and then with two of our legends playing together again it will be very exciting for us United fans to see. I will be very interested in cardiff city next season .
Anyway the money quoted (£2m) is a fraction of his value, seriously. He is too good for rangers or celtic, they would only sell him on and make cash . He needs to get away from Scotland and make a fresh start , glasgow would be the worst possible move for him . Would love goodwillie to stay for our europa game though , its going to be a tough game to win without .
Anyway im excited for this new season not only for my club , but for my new welsh team . Already got my eye on the shirt with conway's name on the back ! Is there any chance of a tangerine away shirt any time soon????
Mate, we signed Bellamy last year but we still werent as excited as we are for this season!
Reason being, Dave Jones had a vast array of talent at his disposal but could not get them
to play together.
Mackay is like a breath of fresh air, his training methods, attitude towards diet, discipline
and his philosophy of pressing hard when you dont have the ball... and hit hard and fast
when you do is modern, and the way forward.
Conway is a great start, i'm wondering whether Malky has already spoken to 'the goody'
What i cant figure out though is this rape thing? its very very serious, yet he still got all
those awards, and was still picked for Scotland... are we missing something here???
GOODYYYYYYY - GOODY GOODY YUMMM YUMMMMM!!!
Taffy, take this how you want but I just spoke to my neice who used to live in Dundee and is the best friend of Goodies fiance who's name is Chelsi. The girl that initially reported the so-called rape that Goodie was supposed to have commited has dropped all charges, I find that a bit strange to be honest. That might be the reason why Goodie, as you so rightly mentioned, got all the awards and got picked for Scotland because maybe he NEVER did the crime, so maybe we are missing something. My neice also asked Chelsi in a text might she be coming to Cardiff to live and Chelsi text her back and said we might be with a wink smillie after it so make of that what you wish also.
She also knows Conway and said that Conway and Goodie comes as a package, all sounds positive to me.
I hope we get him, would be an absolute gift for Cardiff City tbh. Her's to wishing and hoping.
I think we could be having a lot of Dundee Utd fans following us next season, watch this space
Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:49 pm
Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:17 pm
tenerife_blu wrote:[quote="taffyapple