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is bellamy out of contract,and if not,how can we honestly

Fri May 20, 2011 7:27 pm

afford him,man city arent going to give him away :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: is bellamy out of contract,and if not,how can we honestly

Fri May 20, 2011 7:30 pm

krab wrote:afford him,man city arent going to give him away :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Correct Kevin, thats why Man City, Bells and Cardiff City will have to now urgently meet and work it out, there is so much to be done THANKS to DJ and LOANS AFTER LOANS :roll:

Re: is bellamy out of contract,and if not,how can we honestly

Fri May 20, 2011 7:32 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
krab wrote:afford him,man city arent going to give him away :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Correct Kevin, thats why Man City, Bells and Cardiff City will have to now urgently meet and work it out, there is so much to be done THANKS to DJ and LOANS AFTER LOANS :roll:

LOANS AFTER LOANS were down to VT & TG thats all they would sanction

Re: is bellamy out of contract,and if not,how can we honestly

Fri May 20, 2011 7:34 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
krab wrote:afford him,man city arent going to give him away :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Correct Kevin, thats why Man City, Bells and Cardiff City will have to now urgently meet and work it out, there is so much to be done THANKS to DJ and LOANS AFTER LOANS :roll:


God, you really, really don't like him do you! :lol: Every chance you get you have another dig! Fair play, you are consistant! :lol:

Re: is bellamy out of contract,and if not,how can we honestly

Fri May 20, 2011 7:38 pm

i've got my pick n shovel! wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
krab wrote:afford him,man city arent going to give him away :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Correct Kevin, thats why Man City, Bells and Cardiff City will have to now urgently meet and work it out, there is so much to be done THANKS to DJ and LOANS AFTER LOANS :roll:


God, you really, really don't like him do you! :lol: Every chance you get you have another dig! Fair play, you are consistant! :lol:

:lol:

Sorry cant help it :lol: :ayatollah:

Re: is bellamy out of contract,and if not,how can we honestly

Fri May 20, 2011 7:45 pm

krab wrote:afford him,man city arent going to give him away :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Aren't they?

Bellamy turns transfers, loans down. It's not slavery, you know.

So, Man City stuck with a player they don't want, who doesn't want to be with them.

At a cost of 4.6m for his final season.

Re: is bellamy out of contract,and if not,how can we honestly

Fri May 20, 2011 7:55 pm

nerd wrote:
krab wrote:afford him,man city arent going to give him away :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Aren't they?

Bellamy turns transfers, loans down. It's not slavery, you know.

So, Man City stuck with a player they don't want, who doesn't want to be with them.

At a cost of 4.6m for his final season.

i didnt mention slavery,what do you think bellamys value is and you think they will let him go for im assumming next to nothing

Re: is bellamy out of contract,and if not,how can we honestly

Fri May 20, 2011 8:00 pm

Bellamy can refuse to go anywhere he could just sit out his contract at man city. Man city don't want him so they mayaswell cancel contract paving the way 4 us. Bellamy gets wat he wants

Re: is bellamy out of contract,and if not,how can we honestly

Fri May 20, 2011 8:01 pm

krab wrote:
nerd wrote:
krab wrote:afford him,man city arent going to give him away :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Aren't they?

Bellamy turns transfers, loans down. It's not slavery, you know.

So, Man City stuck with a player they don't want, who doesn't want to be with them.

At a cost of 4.6m for his final season.

i didnt mention slavery,what do you think bellamys value is and you think they will let him go for im assumming next to nothing


You're assuming Man City have leverage in the situation. They have zero.

They don't name him in 25 man squad, well, he still gets paid his weekly wages. Misses out on bonuses, sure.

Man City may want to sell him to say Spurs,agree 8m fee.
Bellamy refuses to move.

Bellamy points out to Man City he'll honour his commitment to the club - but won't accept any transfer.

So what, based upon all that, do you think Bellamy's value is? The answer is, f*** all to Man City. What he gives is a 4.6m liability in wages for a year.

His value to us would be next to nothing if that's all we would want to offer and Bellamy refused to go anywhere else. The value to Man City would be in knocking 4.6m off their wage bill; any "fee" from us would be irrelevant compared to that.

Re: is bellamy out of contract,and if not,how can we honestly

Fri May 20, 2011 8:08 pm

or they leave him gathering dust,so what you are saying is no player has a value,and is only worth what someone will pay if thats where that player wants to go,i do agree bellamy is an exception but i would be surprised if mancity just let him come to us for say £3 million

Re: is bellamy out of contract,and if not,how can we honestly

Fri May 20, 2011 8:24 pm

Leave him gathering dust, picking up 4.6m.

It's basic free market economics; a players transfer value is worth what a club is willing to pay and what the selling club is willing to accept - for 99% of cases.

Where the player refuses moves, intimating there is only one club he'd go to, then the number of bidders for that player is reduced to one. The selling club then has zero leverage to demand because there's no competition for that player.

What it boils down to is do Man City hold out for say 3m from us - giving them a net benefit of 3m + 4.6m saved wages - or do they accept a lesser fee - say 500k + 4.6m saved wages.

7.6m or 5.1m swing? That's why the fee is pretty irrelevant in the scheme of things; because the worst case for Man City would be shelling out 4.6m on a player they won't be able to use who then leaves end of season.

Hence I'd be fairly confident based around everything, Bellamy and our leverage, a small fee would suffice.

Re: is bellamy out of contract,and if not,how can we honestly

Fri May 20, 2011 8:41 pm

nerd wrote:Leave him gathering dust, picking up 4.6m.

It's basic free market economics; a players transfer value is worth what a club is willing to pay and what the selling club is willing to accept - for 99% of cases.

Where the player refuses moves, intimating there is only one club he'd go to, then the number of bidders for that player is reduced to one. The selling club then has zero leverage to demand because there's no competition for that player.

What it boils down to is do Man City hold out for say 3m from us - giving them a net benefit of 3m + 4.6m saved wages - or do they accept a lesser fee - say 500k + 4.6m saved wages.

7.6m or 5.1m swing? That's why the fee is pretty irrelevant in the scheme of things; because the worst case for Man City would be shelling out 4.6m on a player they won't be able to use who then leaves end of season.

Hence I'd be fairly confident based around everything, Bellamy and our leverage, a small fee would suffice.

we shall see :ayatollah: