Fri May 06, 2011 1:53 pm
Fri May 06, 2011 1:53 pm
Fri May 06, 2011 2:05 pm
Fri May 06, 2011 2:23 pm
Stan-QPR wrote:Jamesbarnett
Of course you are free to believe or not believe as you wish that is you're prerogative mate but if you think info doesn't come out from this kind of thing you are naïve pal.
And to say itk wannabes or however you worded it is a little off, people do know people in a much better position to comment on things so when they pass it on in good faith it shouldn't be scoffed at its what message boards are all about.
Anyway must dash gotta get my nippers from school.
See y'all later.
Fri May 06, 2011 3:30 pm
Fri May 06, 2011 3:32 pm
Fri May 06, 2011 3:35 pm
Fri May 06, 2011 4:13 pm
seattle wrote:The FA's own rules do not permit them to deduct points for this season once the final round of matches have been played. It's in black and white (and downloadable as a pdf from the FA). The argument now is whether any deduction for next season would leave the door open to a successful appeal, since the events in question go back to before the rules (post Tevez) were changed. The irony is that Tevez played for Man U when his economic rights were still owned by a third party . A further complication is that in the EU (inc Wales, see below) payments to third parties do not contravene any national authority regulations, which may mean that an appeal against a points deduction for next season would be likely to succeed, since the rules are clearly prejudicial. That's assuming they are found guilty of anything.
Had Cardiff or Swansea (or Wrexham) done what QPR are alleged to have done, they would be totally in the clear since the 'economic rights' and third party ownership do not apply outside England, see the Guardian article (Thursday). Indeed Rangers did not contravene the league's own rules, it was only when the league checked with the FA that a problem was identified. It was Rangers who flagged the issue up in the first place.
I reckon the reason why the league have done a U-turn and decided to stick to the play off dates (and go ahead with the presentation of the trophy) is because they know that a championship points deduction is no longer an issue as far as the inquiry is concerned.
The villains of the piece - and architects of this mess - are the footballing authorities in England, with roots in the animosity between the Football League and the FA. And now of course we have the EPL in on the act. You couldn't make it up.
Fri May 06, 2011 4:18 pm
Fri May 06, 2011 4:28 pm
Fri May 06, 2011 4:40 pm
Fri May 06, 2011 4:52 pm
IsThatUJohnWayne wrote:Not interested in qpr really but no club is accepted in PL until the FA agm is held in june, all promotions and relegations are ratified then, this case started before end of season therefore points can still be deducted.
Fri May 06, 2011 5:05 pm
seattle wrote:IsThatUJohnWayne wrote:Not interested in qpr really but no club is accepted in PL until the FA agm is held in june, all promotions and relegations are ratified then, this case started before end of season therefore points can still be deducted.
Not from the Championship they can't. The rules state it in black and white, they are downloadable from the FA. Any deduction for this championship season would have to take place before the final whistle tomorrow pm, thus any deduction would only apply to next season. That's why the trophy business is going ahead.
Interesting to hear (and see) Mark Pallios and The Sun frantically back pedalling, I just tried to have a few quid on QPR to be promoted as Champions - couldn't get on at any price, unlike 36 hours ago, last quoted price 1/12 ON. Pretty much tells you the whole story.
Fri May 06, 2011 5:05 pm
seattle wrote:IsThatUJohnWayne wrote:Not interested in qpr really but no club is accepted in PL until the FA agm is held in june, all promotions and relegations are ratified then, this case started before end of season therefore points can still be deducted.
Not from the Championship they can't. The rules state it in black and white, they are downloadable from the FA. Any deduction for this championship season would have to take place before the final whistle tomorrow pm, thus any deduction would only apply to next season. That's why the trophy business is going ahead.
Interesting to hear (and see) Mark Pallios and The Sun frantically back pedalling, I just tried to have a few quid on QPR to be promoted as Champions - couldn't get on at any price, unlike 36 hours ago, last quoted price 1/12 ON. Pretty much tells you the whole story.
Fri May 06, 2011 5:09 pm
Fri May 06, 2011 5:14 pm
IsThatUJohnWayne wrote:http://WWW.CONFUSED.COM
Fri May 06, 2011 6:08 pm
jamesbarnett91 wrote:seattle wrote:IsThatUJohnWayne wrote:Not interested in qpr really but no club is accepted in PL until the FA agm is held in june, all promotions and relegations are ratified then, this case started before end of season therefore points can still be deducted.
Not from the Championship they can't. The rules state it in black and white, they are downloadable from the FA. Any deduction for this championship season would have to take place before the final whistle tomorrow pm, thus any deduction would only apply to next season. That's why the trophy business is going ahead.
Interesting to hear (and see) Mark Pallios and The Sun frantically back pedalling, I just tried to have a few quid on QPR to be promoted as Champions - couldn't get on at any price, unlike 36 hours ago, last quoted price 1/12 ON. Pretty much tells you the whole story.
Its not hard for the FA to demote them in this situation to basically enforce a points deduction. They'd then start in the championship next year. There are ways around that situation so they can take as long as they want.
As for the trophy being presented Stan, it means bugger all. Just ask Swindon fans what happened to them.
Fri May 06, 2011 6:16 pm
Fri May 06, 2011 6:19 pm
stickywicket wrote:I ALWAYS THOUGHT THE SEASON STARTED WITH THE CHARITY SHIELD AND ENDED WHEN THE LAST
COMPETIVE MATCH ENDED.I.E FA CUP OR PLAY OFF FINAL.
Fri May 06, 2011 6:52 pm
Stan-QPR wrote:Moon dress it up however you like it was you're words not mine that said you were cynical.
Talking about the honesty & integrity of justice is a completely different argument & absolutely nothing to do with things.
Of course if you pay for the best you expect results isn't that normal? Isn't that life? If I want to drive up & down the motorway on long slogs what will I buy? A nissan micra or a Range Rover?
Seems like people are starting to change they're tune now from oh you are guilty as sin to oh well its not ethical or honest.
IRC haven't the evidence you all thought they had, QPR's money has bought the best law men in the country & we are looking at a final result of
QPR-1
FA-0
As I said previously don't hate the player hate the game.
Fri May 06, 2011 8:54 pm
Stan-QPR wrote:
Yea because the Swindon case is similar to QPR's isn't it!!
Deary me
Fri May 06, 2011 9:31 pm
Fri May 06, 2011 9:34 pm
Fri May 06, 2011 9:36 pm
Bernie Ecclestoney wrote:My QC's too good for you, My QC's too good for you, My QC's too good for you, My QC's to good for you....
Now run along and lose your play off semi so your quality pro's can get back to doing what they do best
4am drink anyone?
Fri May 06, 2011 9:40 pm
nerd wrote:Bernie Ecclestoney wrote:My QC's too good for you, My QC's too good for you, My QC's too good for you, My QC's to good for you....
Now run along and lose your play off semi so your quality pro's can get back to doing what they do best
4am drink anyone?
If I was really, really cruel I'd point out the guy whose name you've bastardised is in fact a Chelsea fan...
Fri May 06, 2011 9:56 pm
Stan-QPR wrote:Troobloo keep convincing yourself mate
Make the most of it the countdown is on fella. !!
Can't wait to read this board in 24 hours time. Should be interesting since according to most we were guilty before the hearing even took place
Fri May 06, 2011 9:57 pm
Fri May 06, 2011 10:13 pm
Stan-QPR wrote:Not without sufficient evidence their isn't no actually.
Going up as champions. Live with it James. You will have to earn your place just like we did.
Fri May 06, 2011 10:17 pm
jamesbarnett91 wrote:Stan-QPR wrote:Not without sufficient evidence their isn't no actually.
Going up as champions. Live with it James. You will have to earn your place just like we did.
mate im not bothered in the slightest. I'm not the one snooping on rivals teams message boards am I? If you're not worried then why be here? Obviously on here to gloat when most of us couldn't care less about the outcome of this farcical hearing.
Fri May 06, 2011 10:25 pm
Stan-QPR wrote:jamesbarnett91 wrote:Stan-QPR wrote:Not without sufficient evidence their isn't no actually.
Going up as champions. Live with it James. You will have to earn your place just like we did.
mate im not bothered in the slightest. I'm not the one snooping on rivals teams message boards am I? If you're not worried then why be here? Obviously on here to gloat when most of us couldn't care less about the outcome of this farcical hearing.
Couldn't care less about the outcome of the hearing? REALLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Out of your 12 posts all but 1 are about QPR.